Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released
One advantage I saw was Balena Etcher can use the compressed file
to convert and write to
the disk. Was handy for me on my Linux. I also have used
unetbootin to write the Raspberry os
to the micro SD card.
Again choices we have choices.
Marty kd8bj
On 6/30/20 10:53 PM, John Nicholas
wrote:
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So what is the difference between dd on Linux and Balena Etcher?
W3DJS recommends Balena Etcher. ? Is this because dd
only works on Linux and he is working with people working on Mac
or PC?
JN
On Jun 30, 2020, at 8:34 PM, John D Hays -
K7VE < john@...> wrote:
Just use?dd?on Linux to copy
the .img file to the SD card.?
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020,
18:30 Bob Knight < bob@...>
wrote:
It's executable as-is.
"./balenaEtcher-1.5.100-x64.AppImage"
Takes a while to come up as it checks for updates and
what not.
Thanks,
Bob
KI5EJI
On 6/30/20 7:25 PM, chuck gelm wrote:
> I got: '
> Etcher for Linux x64 (64-bit) (AppImage)
>? ? ? ?
> Linux
>? ? ? ?
> x64
>?
>?
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 gelmce gelmce??? 91645506 Jun 22
09:18??
> balenaEtcher-1.5.100-x64.AppImage
> drwxr-xr-x 2 gelmce gelmce??????? 4096 Jun 23
21:23 'HamPi v1.0 by W3DJS'
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 gelmce gelmce??? 91128472 Jun 30
21:05?
> balena-etcher-electron-1.5.100-linux-x64.zip
>?
>? ?I do not know how to use or install
'balenaEtcher-1.5.100-x64.AppImage'.
>?
> I have been using linux since 1993 and have never
seen an '.AppImage'?
> file before.
>?
> Help!
>?
> Chuck
>?
>?
>?
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
ssh and vnc are already turned on. It's described in the pigate20 pdf. Worked fine hear. I only logged in so I could see how it was built but to run Pigate you don't need ssh or vnc. As Mark says, just connect with a browser.?
--
Bob AF9W
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Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released
For windows 10 you install and use etcher.
Get
On Jul 1, 2020, at 07:59, "Nigel Gunn, G8IFF/W8IFF" < nigel@...> wrote:
dd is not available on my current Win10.
The article says that the linux cernal is part of a software that has to be installed, not that Windows is now based on the Linux kernal.
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Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Distribution v2.0 Released
.xz is not proprietary.? It was used because it has better compression than gzip.? Unless you want to download an 8g file instead of 3.7g
Get
Yeah, generally a bad idea to use a proprietary compression.... Just put the .img file up, or make it a .tar.gz compressed file.... Not everyone runs Windows with Etcher as their primary PC.? ?If distributed in a non-proprietary format, those of us who run Linux exclusively can easily use dd to burn it to an SD card.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 9:45 AM chuck gelm <
rpi4ham@...> wrote:
'W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio
Image
Distribution v2.0 Released'
In other words, it is a distribution, not an image.
The 'distro' contains a proprietary compressed file.
Using a torrent client on '
',
I obtained a folder ('HamPi v1.0 by W3DJS'), containing:
total 3.7G
4.0K CONTRIBUTE.TXT
3.7G HamPi_v1.0.img.xz
4.0K HamPi_v1.0.img.xz.sha256sum
4.0K HOW_TO_FLASH_IMAGE.TXT
4.0K LICENSE.TXT
456K README.docx
?12K README.TXT
4.0K UPGRADE_FROM_W3DJS_IMAGE.TXT
?Because '
HamPi_v1.0.img.xz' is a proprietary compressed format,
balena-etcher is required to un-compress (and to place the disk image on SD media).
In this scenario, 'dd' will not work as it is expecting an image (.img), not a
'compressed disk image' (.xz).
Carlos:? You are correct in part:
"
On 7/1/20 8:48 AM, N3RDR wrote:
I would be careful with assuming dd will work in macOS. I have not tried on this particular image but have tried on others. Even though there are different *nix flavors, the filesystem needs to be supported. I previous tried on a Pi project I had I could not use dd because the image I needed to write was not on a format the Mac supported. I use Balena Etcher on my Mac. It provides a nice interface that makes creating bootable SD cards a breeze.
Carlos
N3RDR
"
'dd' will work in Mac-OS, but not using this proprietary compressed file (HamPi_v1.0.img.xz).
It seems to me that 'balena-etcher' uncompresses and transfers the .xz file, 'on the fly'.
?I have no difficulty transferring a disk image (.img) to filesystem media using 'dd'.
?It seems, in this distribution, balena-etcher is
required for installation.
Chuck
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Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released
dd is not available on my current Win10.
The article says that the linux cernal is part of a software that has to be installed, not that Windows is now based on the Linux kernal.
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Don,
Sorry, I don't support the OS and any problems you may have with it.? Again, you don't need a keyboard and mouse connected to the PiGate to use it.? I probably didn't include it on the OS build because it's unnecessary.
Mark KD0QYN
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 8:28:52 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:
Sorry for the barrage ?? I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.? I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond. ? Don, W4GFQ ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Munson Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup ? Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.? I¡¯m assuming that is normal for your image? I¡¯ve never seen that behavior in Linux before. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs. If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
To get rid of annoying dialog box that prompts for what to do with an executable do the following:
File manager > Edit > Preferences > General
Check Don't ask options on launch executable file
This has nothing to do with TNC9k6.
/Basil n7nix
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Don,
There are a very few web browsers that don't work well with the admin pages.? Apple Safari and the Raspbian built in Epiphany browser.? I tested this on the three web browsers that comprise about 95% of all Internet use, which is Chrome, Firefox, and IE.? Use one of them.
And again, the Raspbian GUI desktop is something I don't support, for many reasons.
Just get a decent web browser and go to the admin pages.? Forget the desktop.
Mark KD0QYN
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 7:54:18 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:
Thanks ¨C my ¡°adjustments¡± were (as you said) mostly things that were already done. And believe me they are minimal.? BUT I will say the more I touch the Linux commands the more I am learning (at least short term) about how this is set up and it works. ? One thing I did notice in the image last night though was that when it first came up with the basic colors, the menu options on the left (Settings, Home, etc.) were not visible at all (compared to your video #1).? I changed the colors and it was because the text is on the ¡°bar¡± beneath the button object and not on the button itself. ??I had a HDML 10.7¡± monitor on the PI and was VNC¡¯d into the PI and both instances reflected the same so it wasn¡¯t (apparently) resolution in the monitor.? I just left the changed colors but I¡¯m wondering if that is adjustable as well? ? Don, W4GFQ ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup ? I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs. If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Don,
If your talking about the Raspbian GUI, I don't do anything for that, and don't support it.? Everything is done though the web based admin pages.
The PiGate is a setup and forget type device.? Once you do the initial setup, you can leave it alone and it will run continuously for however long you wish.? The only purpose is to send email to a Winlink RMS server, and you send and receive email for yourself by using an external email client.? Emergency email is sent for others through the web page designed for sending emergency email.? There is never a need to access it vie SSH or VNC or anything else.
I hope this helps answer your question.
Mark KD0QYN
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 7:56:27 AM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote:
Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.? I¡¯m assuming that is normal for your image? I¡¯ve never seen that behavior in Linux before. ? Don, W4GFQ ?
From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup ? I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs. If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
A bit of an aside, but does anyone know if the NinoTNC board from the TARPN group can be used in place of the?TNC-Pi9k6?
Jeff, KN6JSI
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Don,
What "terminal"??? SSH and VNC are already going on the PiGate.? Just use an SSH client or VNC Viewer on your PC to access.? For that matter, why do you want to login to the command line?? Everything is controlled through the web based administration pages.? Just use your web browser to connect like it says in the docs.
Mark KD0QYN
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:40:29 PM CDT, Don Poaps <va7dgp@...> wrote:
Mark
I'm still having issues with version 2. As mentioned?before I can't log in via terminal to turn on shh or vnc.
73
Don va7dgp Another Don
On Tue., Jun. 30, 2020, 9:25 p.m. Mark Griffith via <mdgriffith2003= [email protected]> wrote:
Don,
I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs.
If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card.
Mark KD0QYN
On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson < w4gfq@...> wrote:
That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Distribution v2.0 Released
Yeah, generally a bad idea to use a proprietary compression.... Just put the .img file up, or make it a .tar.gz compressed file.... Not everyone runs Windows with Etcher as their primary PC.? ?If distributed in a non-proprietary format, those of us who run Linux exclusively can easily use dd to burn it to an SD card.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 9:45 AM chuck gelm < rpi4ham@...> wrote:
'W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image Distribution
v2.0 Released'
In other words, it is a distribution, not an image.
The 'distro' contains a proprietary compressed file.
Using a torrent client on
'',
I obtained a folder ('HamPi v1.0 by W3DJS'), containing:
total 3.7G
4.0K CONTRIBUTE.TXT
3.7G HamPi_v1.0.img.xz
4.0K HamPi_v1.0.img.xz.sha256sum
4.0K HOW_TO_FLASH_IMAGE.TXT
4.0K LICENSE.TXT
456K README.docx
?12K README.TXT
4.0K UPGRADE_FROM_W3DJS_IMAGE.TXT
?Because ' HamPi_v1.0.img.xz' is a proprietary
compressed format,
balena-etcher is required to un-compress (and to place the disk
image on SD media).
In this scenario, 'dd' will not work as it is expecting an image
(.img), not a
'compressed disk image' (.xz).
Carlos:? You are correct in part:
"
On 7/1/20 8:48 AM, N3RDR wrote:
I would be careful with assuming dd will work in macOS. I have not tried on this particular image but have tried on others. Even though there are different *nix flavors, the filesystem needs to be supported. I previous tried on a Pi project I had I could not use dd because the image I needed to write was not on a format the Mac supported. I use Balena Etcher on my Mac. It provides a nice interface that makes creating bootable SD cards a breeze.
Carlos
N3RDR
"
'dd' will work in Mac-OS, but not using this proprietary compressed
file (HamPi_v1.0.img.xz).
It seems to me that 'balena-etcher' uncompresses and transfers the
.xz file, 'on the fly'.
?I have no difficulty transferring a disk image (.img) to filesystem
media using 'dd'.
?It seems, in this distribution, balena-etcher is required
for installation.
Chuck
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Re: Package Installation Scripts
I also really like Notepad++, but just to complicate the world, Geany and Visual Studio editors are also both free, cross-platform (Linux/Windows) and highly language adaptable.? I've mostly switched to Geany since it comes with the Raspian distro and also works well for Arduino on the Windows desktop.
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Re: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Distribution v2.0 Released
On Jul 1, 2020, at 8:45 AM, chuck gelm < rpi4ham@...> wrote:
'W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio?Image?Distribution?v2.0 Released'
In other words, it is a distribution, not an image.
The 'distro' contains a proprietary compressed file.
Chuck,
I referred to using the DD or Balena to make an image on the SD based on Dave¡¯s ReadMe Text that I downloaded.
No matter if you are a Windows, Mac os Linux user, go to and download and install Balena Etcher. This is the easiest program I can suggest to use.
1. Start Balena Etcher.
2. Click on Select Image and select the downloaded HamPi_v1.0.img.xz file. ? ?(If you got HamPi in a tar file, you'll need to extract the files from the tar archive first.)
3. Click on Select Drive and select your 16GB or larger (micro)SD card.
4. Click on Flash!
After several minutes, the flashing process will finish, and you can eject the (micro)SD card and insert it into your Raspberry Pi and power it up.
By?image he is certainly referring to his logo image of the ham
He may be referring to more because he discussed the image on the 16 gig SD card filling the space or using a 32 gig card and the process automatically expanding to fill the larger card. ?He did a interview with Dave Casler on YouTube the day before he released HamPi 1.0
73
de KEoZUW ?John
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Re: HamPi WAS: W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image v2.0 Released
Chuck,
I was not replying to anyone specifically. ?It was a reply on the subject open to the group.
I thank everyone for their piece of the answer. ? I have a comfortable answer for me. ?I will use Balena Etcher.
I cut my computing on Xenix; ?a chopped up version Unix with a Bourne Shell. ?I used this from 1987 to 1994, then switching to BSD Unix and staying with a Bourne Shell. ? ?The vendor of the Xenix machine, used a restricted shell to implement a dot matrix attempt at a GUI. ?I figured out how to break out of the restricted shell and began writing command line scripts. ?I got my Mac in 1994 at home and did not see a PC until Y2K.
I get the file system issues with using Unix commands on the Mac. ?I have run into those over the years.
Thank You all for helping me with the reminders of the Unix.
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On Jul 1, 2020, at 4:59 AM, chuck gelm < rpi4ham@...> wrote:
?Are you replying to me 'Chuck' or to Bob K8EJI ?
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W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Distribution v2.0 Released
'W3DJS Raspberry Pi Ham Radio Image Distribution
v2.0 Released'
In other words, it is a distribution, not an image.
The 'distro' contains a proprietary compressed file.
Using a torrent client on
'',
I obtained a folder ('HamPi v1.0 by W3DJS'), containing:
total 3.7G
4.0K CONTRIBUTE.TXT
3.7G HamPi_v1.0.img.xz
4.0K HamPi_v1.0.img.xz.sha256sum
4.0K HOW_TO_FLASH_IMAGE.TXT
4.0K LICENSE.TXT
456K README.docx
?12K README.TXT
4.0K UPGRADE_FROM_W3DJS_IMAGE.TXT
?Because ' HamPi_v1.0.img.xz' is a proprietary
compressed format,
balena-etcher is required to un-compress (and to place the disk
image on SD media).
In this scenario, 'dd' will not work as it is expecting an image
(.img), not a
'compressed disk image' (.xz).
Carlos:? You are correct in part:
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On 7/1/20 8:48 AM, N3RDR wrote:
I would be careful with assuming dd will work in macOS. I have not tried on this particular image but have tried on others. Even though there are different *nix flavors, the filesystem needs to be supported. I previous tried on a Pi project I had I could not use dd because the image I needed to write was not on a format the Mac supported. I use Balena Etcher on my Mac. It provides a nice interface that makes creating bootable SD cards a breeze.
Carlos
N3RDR
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'dd' will work in Mac-OS, but not using this proprietary compressed
file (HamPi_v1.0.img.xz).
It seems to me that 'balena-etcher' uncompresses and transfers the
.xz file, 'on the fly'.
?I have no difficulty transferring a disk image (.img) to filesystem
media using 'dd'.
?It seems, in this distribution, balena-etcher is required
for installation.
Chuck
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 02:39 PM, N5XMT wrote:
Have to search the forums
I tried that and failed (even though the Raspberry Pi Foundation had said that is where it would be announced). ? -- Stewart G0LGS
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Sorry for the barrage ?? I am apparently having issues setting up Bluetooth to get a BT Mouse and Keyboard on the Pi.? I did this on an image of Build a Pi but when I run the same comment here (sudo bluetoothctl) the terminal window does not respond. ? Don, W4GFQ ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Don Munson Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 8:56 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup ? Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.? I¡¯m assuming that is normal for your image? I¡¯ve never seen that behavior in Linux before. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs. If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Oh and one other thing, when I click the items on the top bar (Web Browser, File Manager, Terminal) I get a prompt to run them in terminal or open as it is identifying them as an executable script.? I¡¯m assuming that is normal for your image? I¡¯ve never seen that behavior in Linux before. ? Don, W4GFQ ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup ? I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs. If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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Re: Help with TNC9k6 setup
Thanks ¨C my ¡°adjustments¡± were (as you said) mostly things that were already done. And believe me they are minimal.? BUT I will say the more I touch the Linux commands the more I am learning (at least short term) about how this is set up and it works. ? One thing I did notice in the image last night though was that when it first came up with the basic colors, the menu options on the left (Settings, Home, etc.) were not visible at all (compared to your video #1).? I changed the colors and it was because the text is on the ¡°bar¡± beneath the button object and not on the button itself. ??I had a HDML 10.7¡± monitor on the PI and was VNC¡¯d into the PI and both instances reflected the same so it wasn¡¯t (apparently) resolution in the monitor.? I just left the changed colors but I¡¯m wondering if that is adjustable as well? ? Don, W4GFQ ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Mark Griffith via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:26 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [RaspberryPi-4-HamRadio] Help with TNC9k6 setup ? I would not mess with the settings in any of the files on the PiGate image.? They are all there specifically to work with the TNC-Pi2 or TNC-Pi9k6 and if you make changes, it may not work.? I also wouldn't mess with any of the OS parameters, like turning the serial ports on or off.? Everything is setup correctly and it's really a plug and play image.? All you need to do is the initial setup outlined in detail in the docs. If you have made changes, and you don't remember how to put them back exactly as before, just copy a new image to the SD card. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 11:08:56 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: That makes sense.? I just tip toed my way in a clean flash of PIGATE and could not get the parameters (again) even though I had shell through serial off.? I traced the error (I LOVE GOOGLE!) to the AX25 director and AXPorts.? Turned off the TNC line rebooted and got parameters ¨C so it is still there LOL.? BUT I did find the TNC line and went ¨C hmm bet that would help! ? So now I¡¯m off to read up on the AXPorts file and how to set that up. ? Slowly but surely I¡¯m going to win this skirmish. ? Thanks for the response and being there as needed. ? Don, W4GFQ ? The TNC-Pi9k6 appears on the serial port as a KISS TNC modem.? Only software that "speaks" the KISS protocol can us it.? That would be one of the packet software suites, like Pat, linbpq, PiGate, APRS, etc. Use one of those programs to unlock the "secrets" of the TNC. On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:08:43 PM CDT, Don Munson <w4gfq@...> wrote: Mat ? I purchased the pre-built board off Etsey that is intended to be a ¡°hat¡± to the Pi.? It is on the GPIO pins and lights up properly when the PI boots.? I can get the parameters from the board so I know it is connected and communicating at least at that level.? But my question becomes ¨C now what? ? I can¡¯t find any references to how it gets configured, what software to use, how to use it, etc.? I have put the KM4ACK Build a Pi on a card and have pieces of it working, but frankly I don¡¯t know (or can¡¯t find?) enough information on how to connect APRS (for example) to the TNC board.? I tried to list serial ports on the board and get nothing back (as in there are no serial ports?) But I have serial ports enabled. ? At this point I¡¯m looking for how I could connect YAAC (for example) from the PI and set up a serial connection to the TNC in an attempt to get an APRS signal to a radio and audio back. ? Also from your comment the Teensy board is loaded, how to I look at those directories to see that software from the RPI interface? I¡¯m assuming the TNC talks to the Pi to permit viewing those directories somehow? ? As you can see I¡¯m relatively lost. ? Don, W4GFQ ? ? Depending on which board you purchase the appropriate firmware is pre loaded.? For instance if you get a TNC configured with the Raspberry PI headers then it has firmware loaded to interact with the PI using the GPIO pins set aside for serial communications (19200 baud btw).? If you get the "stand alone" TNC then the firmware loaded is for that specific configuration.
I have tested our TNC's with Mark's PiGate image and I don't recall having to change any settings.
One other item.? You can find pre-compiled binary's for the TNC9k6 on our site:?
Mat
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