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A sad discovery. At the same time, a wealth of DNA extraction possibilities, should funding be made available. These are all likely locals and it would be interesting to see an analysis of Y-DNA haplogroup breakdown and also autosomal DNA testing results on this select group. https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/europe/mass-grave-nuremberg-germany-scli-intl-scn/index.html Dan D Dan

Piero, I see you have stumbled upon my article on migrations. I hope it's not too out of date by now. Cheers, Roy

Yes, folks another 4 years has passed and Charles can officially add one more candle to his birthday cake. Since, by this counting, he is still a teenager he does not have to call the fire department when he lights the candles on his cake. Nulls rule Wayne K.

I have a BigY vs Discover discrepancy very near my Terminal SNP. Its only one man, but it's still bugging me. This has been true for a few weeks now, so I doubt it's a case of one module catching up to the other. Discover shows 8 men in BY64849 but I can only acct for 7 men (including myself), which is what the Block Y shows. The Block shows the insertion of a new column (FT153002), which contains zero testers. Why create a new column if there are 0 men? I am following a pending BigY tester. He is a re-do after the BigY failed in January. Y111 came through but not the BigY. I am thinking it may have almost passed. Enough to get registered at Discover but did not pass some other final steps. Is it possible for a failed test to still show up at Discover? ? I can see the alleged 8th tester on the TimeTree. He has a less-common UK flag, not England. As does the Y111 tester. In the long run, this test is likely to be a marginal match to me. 20 something Non-Matching Variants to me, but I am still curious as to what is happening. I am a bit impatient to wait 4 more months for the results after 4 previous months on the first trial. Also I am coaching this family, and I like to able to explain what's going on.

Hello fellow U106ers, I just received my BigY results and my haplogroup is R-FTE39986, which I'm told is a subgroup of R-M269. If anyone would like to look at my results you are very welcome to do so. Best, Mike

Treasure-filled grave belonging to a teen girl and child unearthed after 1,300 years Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article284039243.html#storylink=cpy Treasure-filled grave belonging to a teen girl and child unearthed after 1,300 years See the ancient treasures hidden in the burial. www.miamiherald.com More than 1,300 years ago, a teenage girl and a child were buried side-by-side in the United Kingdom. Now, due to construction, their grave has been unearthed — along with the ancient treasures it held. Wessex Archaeology experts have excavated 50 sites along a planned onshore cable route since 2020, but they said “the most striking discovery” is the remains of an Anglo-Saxon cemetery, which included the treasure-filled grave, according to a Jan. 8 news release. The grave was found in Lincolnshire, which is about 115 miles north of London.

Just a comment in regard to NPE mention in an earlier post. Several years ago a local family historian in my home area (The Free State of North Staffordshire) advised me to check the excommunication and penance lists in local Parish Registers when investigating NPEs - particularly dates on or around the relevant child's birth. I don't know how common these are generally, but I've come across them in two of the Staffs Registers I was intertested in, (Norton-le-Moors and Alstonefield registers), so it seems to have been a thing in that area, at least at certain times. His theory was that who the father was, was often known by everyone the village and if the child survived to term, that was it - you're guilty in the eyes of God of fornication or adultery, so the wrath of the local Vicar was felt. This seems to have been applied to the father rather than the mother - perhaps due to him being possibly an adulterer, or maybe the mother was less likely to be excommunicated for the sake of the child (I'm speculating and have no idea really). We've plenty of NPEs in the family, including my mum (who isn't remotely precious about any of this stuff). I suspect her dad was Welsh but this information is classified Restricted - Sensitive. Cheers, Al

Hi all, For those interested, FTDNA recently added several R-U106+ aDNAs to its database. Below is some data on these latest additions: 1) R. Hui et al. 2024: ID Sample Name Y-Haplogroup archeology ID Site Geography Country Time period culture TMRCA Mean TMRCA Oldest TMRCA Youngest age estimate source Latitude Longitude ATP_PSN_496 Bene't 496 R-FTB18868 1609 Bene't Street Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Medieval Britain 1349 1300 1400 Radiocarbon dating 52.204 0.118 ATP_PSN_36 St. Johns 36 R-A11475 2150 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1250 1000 1500 Context 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_412 HTC 412 R-Y130438 51 Holy Trinity Church Cambridgeshire England Historical Historical Britain 1844 1833 1855 Radiocarbon dating 52.206 0.12 ATP_PSN_54 St. Johns 54 R-S10346 2203 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1250 1000 1500 Context 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_116 St. Johns 116 R-A5011 3288 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1345 1290 1400 Radiocarbon dating 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_190 St. Johns 190 R-BY41658 1237 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1250 1000 1500 Context 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_416 HTC 416 R-FT201164 2 Holy Trinity Church Cambridgeshire England Historical Medieval Britain 1844 1833 1855 Radiocarbon dating 52.206 0.12 ATP_PSN_127 St. Johns 127 R-FGC52155 5039 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1250 1000 1500 Context 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_923 Cherry Hinton 923 R-PH1842 3502 Cherry Hinton Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Rural Medieval Britain 1055 940 1170 Context 52.189 0.174 ATP_PSN_78 St. Johns 78 R-BY35882 2260 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1250 1000 1500 Context 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_505 Austin Friary 505 R-S6924 1932 Augustinian Friars Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Clergy Medieval Britain 1370 1200 1540 Context 52.202 0.121 ATP_PSN_128 St. Johns 128 R-FT59226 5041 St Johns Hospital Cambridgeshire England Late Medieval Poor Medieval Britain 1250 1000 1500 Context 52.208 0.119 ATP_PSN_873 Providence 873 R-JFS0009 10 Providence Calvinist Baptist Chapel Cambridgeshire England Historical Poor Historical Britain 1835 1800 1870 Context 52.205 0.137 2) Anastasiadou et al. 2024 (Klinefelter syndrome / XXY): ID Sample Name Y-Haplogroup archeology ID Site Geography Country Time period culture TMRCA Mean TMRCA Oldest TMRCA Youngest age estimate source Latitude Longitude C11119 Longwall 11119 R-FT399065 Longwall Quad Oxford United Kingdom Late Medieval Medieval Britain 1170 1050 1290 Context 51.757 -1.26 3) Olalde 2021/2023: ID Sample Name Y-Haplogroup archeology ID Site Geography Country Time period culture TMRCA Mean TMRCA Oldest TMRCA Youngest age estimate source Latitude Longitude I15527 Viminacium I15527 R-U106 Grave G-2771 Viminacium, Pecine Necropolis Moesia Serbia Roman Age Roman Age Balkans 140 70 208 Radiocarbon dating 44.73698 21.225605 All the R-U106+ aDNAs listed by FTDNA, in map form (plus some additions): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4o2pn9pua0nqfw2nynv15/R-U106_European_country_maps_frequency_with_YFULL_20240213.webp?rlkey=yd04hycvru827rc4ul0v70qbh&dl=0 Cheers, Ewenn

Hey there, I recently tested for my haplogroups with LivingDNA and was fairly surprised by my yDNA result, namely U106>DF98. I haven't tested to get any further than that as I don't really fancy splashing out on downstream yDNA tests quite yet, so I understand that a lot of conjecture is involved with the information I'm able to provide. On its face, my fatherline is about as Irish as it can get. I have an Irish surname (anglicised Daly from the Irish ? Dálaigh) and come from a line of Irish-speaking Roman Catholics as far back as I can reliably get (census records confirming both a great-great-great grandfather and his children who were both Irish-speaking and Roman Catholic in County Roscommon, Ireland in the early 1800s). The ? Dálaigh clan is said to have its origins in Tethbae, Westmeath -- pretty much bang in the centre-north of the modern Republic of Ireland -- from the 12th century, so my family's impression was that some ancestor of mine moved west from there to Roscommon at some point, where my earliest verifiable ancestors come from. Having done some research, however, it seems that U106 is not native to Ireland and doesn't really feature in ancient Irish samples. It does, however, seem to spring up in the medieval era, indicating possible Anglo-Saxon, Viking or even Norman influence. My theories on this are as follows and I was hoping that someone with a little more knowledge might be able to point me in the right direction or correct any misconceptions I have: 1) Ancient Celtic descent from some early Germanic migration to Ireland(?) From what I've read, this seems unlikely, as we'd expect U106 to be more prevelant in Ireland if it's survived for thousands of years up to the modern day. 2) Anglo-Saxon/Ulster plantation descent I feel like this is fairly unlikely given how U106 seems to be distributed in the British Isles, i.e. focused in the East and South of England and fading as you go north and west, with barely anything in Ireland apart from Ulster at around 14%. It doesn't seem as though there were any large-scale settlements of Anglo-Saxons in Ireland during the medieval era, as you'd expect to see more U106 (though isolated occurrences are obviously not impossible). I've also seen the argument that U106 in Ireland can be explaned by later plantations of people of mixed Anglo-Saxon stock, but it seems strange to me that a planter/a planter's descendants would have a) learnt Irish (as mentioned, Irish-speaking shows up in my family's earliest available census records), b) adopted an extremely established Irish surname, c) converted to Catholicism and d) moved south to Roscommon (not necessarily in that order). 3) Norman descent This seems unlikely to me, as if I'm not mistaken, men in Normandy historically and to this day demonstrate low quantities of this subclade and are primarily R-L21 and R-S28. As well as that, many people of Norman descent in Ireland can trace their surname back to the invasion, and it seems strange that a Norman would adopt ? Dálaigh as a surname in their new homeland -- particularly as the ? Dálaighs were an eminent bardic family, fiercely proud of their status as Irish-speaking Ollamhs (chief poets) of Ireland (not to suggest they were all Ollamhs, but it seems like a fairly high-brow family name to adopt). 4) Viking descent This, to me, actually seems like the most reasonable option. From what I've read, the U106 subclade appears to have jumped from >1% in pre-medieval Ireland to 5-6% in medieval Ireland, which coincides with the Viking settlements of Ireland. A fairly recent paper (2018) (https://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1007152) also concludes that in the areas of heaviest Viking influence in Ireland (chiefly Leinster and Connacht), their yDNA impact was larger than earlier estimates suggested: Of all the European populations considered, ancestral influence in Irish genomes was best represented by modern Scandinavians and northern Europeans [...] in specific genetically- and geographically-defined groups within Ireland, with the strongest signals in south and central Leinster (the largest recorded Viking settlement in Ireland was Dubh linn in present-day Dublin), followed by Connacht and north Leinster/Ulster (S5 Fig; S6 Table). This suggests a contribution of historical Viking settlement to the contemporary Irish genome and contrasts with previous estimates of Viking ancestry in Ireland based on Y chromosome haplotypes, which have been very low [25]. Given that the Dalys are said to have originated in county Westmeath in Leinster, and our ancestors as far as traceable moved at some point from there to Roscommon in eastern Connacht -- that is, all within the hotspots of Viking activity in Ireland -- does it seem fair to assume that I could be descended from a Norse settler? I believe U106 is fairly well-represented in Scandinavia, more so than in Normandy. The adoption of the surname also seems less far-fetched to me than for the Normans, as the Vikings didn't have anything resembling a surname culture, so as Viking pre-eminence in Ireland faded, perhaps they adopted the ? Dálaigh surname in their attempts to assimilate. Am I way off the mark in this line of reasoning? Again, I know it's hard to tell without more downstream yDNA information and conjecture plays a big role, but it seems compelling to me on its face. I feel particularly strongly that the Ulster plantation theory doesn't apply here (not only because of my own biases) given my personal family history (surname/Irish language/Roman Catholicism). Thanks so much for reading this far and for any suggestions/pointers/critiques in my reasoning you're able to give. Cheers, Alex

I am co-administrator to a relatively small surname project. I recently noticed that the DNA Classic Table that is viewable by group members and the public is absent members that are otherwise visible in the administrator's page view. Today, the lead administrator and I came to the realization that if a member has not "opted in" to the Group Project Profile, the member will not be visible int the DNA classic chart, Big Y or other Y result. Again, "opt outs" are visible in the DNA Result Classic that is accessible to Administrators at Administrator page. I recall the notification that Big-Y testers had to "opt in" to Group Project Profile" in order to be visible in the Group Time Tree, but I do not recall a note stating that an "opt out" to Group Project Profile would result in one's absence from "DNA Results Classic" at member sight. This might be a case of my being last to know, but I thought it worth a note. Smitty

I suppose the answer may be no answer. But I was wondering if anyone had information pertaining to U106<L45 FT209276 FT209509. I have theories I’ll spare from the thread. But was wondering if there was any data or if there is still just too small of a sample size to really have a clue?

I'm not sure the solidness of this question. However, in the Little Surname DNA Project we have a fair-sized group of men with surname Little/Lyttle and fall under U106 > L1 > A680 ... This was Leo Little's Null 439 group. Is there any geological area associated with the origins of this lineage? (besides Kentucky) For example, If the Angles held Northumberland up to the Forth throughout the second half of the first millennium, is it logical to assume descendants from these folks might still be around in 1100+ to adopt the surname Little, which is genetically under L21, L513, L193 (S5982). We're generally leaning toward the origins being down around Wiltshire from the early Saxon 'invasions' after the Romans left. We also have a large group of "Wiltshire Littles" who are haplogroup "I". But during the 5th century is also when the Angles were being hired to defend against the Picts and then they subsequently took over for themselves in the kingdom of Bernicia. I briefly looked for a geological-based project for Northumbria, but I don't believe one exists. Is this a direction to be looking, or is it just me trying to create a convenient explanation? Thanks! - Tom Little, Project Admin for the Little Project

Hi All, After hanging out with the R-FGC910 branches for the last four years, through my Gleave surname and very small surname project, I decided to test my mother's paternal line and luckily managed to convince one of my male cousins to take the Big Y. The Foster's originate from Western Scotland and moved to Liverpool, in around 1850. My Grandad was proud of his Scottish heritage (as well as Everton while we support Liverpool!!) and I even have an old Robert Burns song book in the Forrester/Foster green colours, which has been handed down through the family. I have managed to trace the Foster's back to Greenock in Scotland but have a brick wall with my 3rd Great Grandfather as I cannot locate his birth certificate anywhere. The objective of the test was partly to see if I could break through this wall, as well as establish the origins of the Fosters. The results have now come back and I have another line which is in the R1b-U106 brotherhood although this time in a completely different branch under R-DF98. The terminal Haplogroup is R-194282 and there is not one single Foster/Forrester match at any level of testing!! Six out of nine of the Big Y matches have a Wallace surname (although they are downstream of R-194282) while the STR testing results at 111 and 67 are also dominated by Wallaces. Should we now change the Foster/Forrester colours on the Burns book with Wallace? Could this be a potential surname switch, a not the parent expected or some other explanation? I read Ian's excellent analysis on the King's cluster which provided great insight into this branch of the tree. If anyone can recommend any further reading on ancestry in Western Scotland, that would also be greatly received. Many thanks and Best, Mike Gleave

Interesting lecture about the genetic history of Europe by Johannes Krause (Max-Planck institute Leipzig) https://youtu.be/mWTVx3Cx6Zc?si=QPNFsSGjtQfb2vmJ

Nature paper from 2020. Dan