Re: FamilyTreeDNA provides Y-DNA haplogroups from Family Finder autosomal tests
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? May 8 ? ? ? ? ? May 13 ? ? May 17 ? ? ? ? ?May 20 ? ? ? ? ? May 24
total? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?360,955 ? ? ? ? ? 419,150 ? ?461,560 ? ? ? ? 492,435 ? ? ? ? ?529,864
m269? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?136,233? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 182,655 ? ? ? ? 197,410 ? ? ? ? ?215,664 ? ?
U106? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?32,814? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?45,175? ? ? ? ? ?49,143 ? ? ? ? ? 54,073
L48 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?16,316? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?22,504 ? ? ? ? ?24,432 ? ? ? ? ? 26,928
Z8? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?4,534? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 6,335? ? ? ? ? ? 6,931 ? ? ? ? ? ?7,708
z341? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1,149? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1,617? ? ? ? ? ? 1,753? ? ? ? ? ? 1,975??
hopefully the formatting survives.....:)
Z341 is my Family Finder SNP-of-Interest.? ?V2 and V3
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Haplogroup moved backwards
I habitually check my group projects in hopes of new matches. A few minutes ago I checked the U106 group and noticed that my haplogroup has been moved from FGC17460 back to FGC17465. Does this have anything with my upgrading from Y500 to Y700 even though I haven't received my results yet? What does this mean?
I've also paid for the Family Finder test in hopes of getting some more possible matches based on the comments around here recently.
Thanks,
Shane
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OK updated this again,? kind of weirdly I put my paternal ancestor as England even though my y111 are all the states and my last known paternal ancestor was born their and came here after the revolutionary war.
I am from the UK.
On Fri, 24 May 2024, 17:45 jason jordan via , <jasonmjordan76= [email protected]> wrote: So not just me then!
They keep asking me to add my earliest known ancestors as well, which I did years ago, both Y line and MT line
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:16 PM, jason jordan It has been added. But for some reason ftdna keeps reminding me to do it.? I may email them to look into this. Hi Jason, ? I had a look at your kit. Your Y-37, Y-67 or Y-111 matches haven't taken the BigY test, so they won't show up as BigY matches. You have matches at Y-25 and Y-12, but these matches are too distant to show up on BigY and are effectively irrelevant to you anyway. ? If your Y-STR matches upgrade to BigY in the future (or if new testers come along and take BigY tests) then you will probably find they are within your "terminal" haplogroup. In that case, a new, more-recent haplogroup would be formed, and we'd get some extra information on where your family comes from. ? Incidentally, you may want to update your earliest known ancestor information to include a place, and identify a country of origin on the FTDNA system. A lot of the discussion I've put on the forum recently relies on these kinds of data, and we'll be putting a plea out to everyone to add this information. This info is what we rely on to estimate where haplogroups come from and unravel people's ancestral journies. ? Cheers, ? Iain.
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They keep asking me to add my earliest known ancestors as well, which I did years ago, both Y line and MT line
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:16 PM, jason jordan It has been added. But for some reason ftdna keeps reminding me to do it.? I may email them to look into this. Hi Jason, ? I had a look at your kit. Your Y-37, Y-67 or Y-111 matches haven't taken the BigY test, so they won't show up as BigY matches. You have matches at Y-25 and Y-12, but these matches are too distant to show up on BigY and are effectively irrelevant to you anyway. ? If your Y-STR matches upgrade to BigY in the future (or if new testers come along and take BigY tests) then you will probably find they are within your "terminal" haplogroup. In that case, a new, more-recent haplogroup would be formed, and we'd get some extra information on where your family comes from. ? Incidentally, you may want to update your earliest known ancestor information to include a place, and identify a country of origin on the FTDNA system. A lot of the discussion I've put on the forum recently relies on these kinds of data, and we'll be putting a plea out to everyone to add this information. This info is what we rely on to estimate where haplogroups come from and unravel people's ancestral journies. ? Cheers, ? Iain.
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They keep asking me to add my earliest known ancestors as well, which I did years ago, both Y line and MT line
On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:16 PM, jason jordan <jasonmjordan76@...> wrote: It has been added. But for some reason ftdna keeps reminding me to do it.? I may email them to look into this. Hi Jason, ? I had a look at your kit. Your Y-37, Y-67 or Y-111 matches haven't taken the BigY test, so they won't show up as BigY matches. You have matches at Y-25 and Y-12, but these matches are too distant to show up on BigY and are effectively irrelevant to you anyway. ? If your Y-STR matches upgrade to BigY in the future (or if new testers come along and take BigY tests) then you will probably find they are within your "terminal" haplogroup. In that case, a new, more-recent haplogroup would be formed, and we'd get some extra information on where your family comes from. ? Incidentally, you may want to update your earliest known ancestor information to include a place, and identify a country of origin on the FTDNA system. A lot of the discussion I've put on the forum recently relies on these kinds of data, and we'll be putting a plea out to everyone to add this information. This info is what we rely on to estimate where haplogroups come from and unravel people's ancestral journies. ? Cheers, ? Iain.
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It has been added. But for some reason ftdna keeps reminding me to do it.? I may email them to look into this.
Hi Jason, ? I had a look at your kit. Your Y-37, Y-67 or Y-111 matches haven't taken the BigY test, so they won't show up as BigY matches. You have matches at Y-25 and Y-12, but these matches are too distant to show up on BigY and are effectively irrelevant to you anyway. ? If your Y-STR matches upgrade to BigY in the future (or if new testers come along and take BigY tests) then you will probably find they are within your "terminal" haplogroup. In that case, a new, more-recent haplogroup would be formed, and we'd get some extra information on where your family comes from. ? Incidentally, you may want to update your earliest known ancestor information to include a place, and identify a country of origin on the FTDNA system. A lot of the discussion I've put on the forum recently relies on these kinds of data, and we'll be putting a plea out to everyone to add this information. This info is what we rely on to estimate where haplogroups come from and unravel people's ancestral journies. ? Cheers, ? Iain.
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Hi Jason, ? I had a look at your kit. Your Y-37, Y-67 or Y-111 matches haven't taken the BigY test, so they won't show up as BigY matches. You have matches at Y-25 and Y-12, but these matches are too distant to show up on BigY and are effectively irrelevant to you anyway. ? If your Y-STR matches upgrade to BigY in the future (or if new testers come along and take BigY tests) then you will probably find they are within your "terminal" haplogroup. In that case, a new, more-recent haplogroup would be formed, and we'd get some extra information on where your family comes from. ? Incidentally, you may want to update your earliest known ancestor information to include a place, and identify a country of origin on the FTDNA system. A lot of the discussion I've put on the forum recently relies on these kinds of data, and we'll be putting a plea out to everyone to add this information. This info is what we rely on to estimate where haplogroups come from and unravel people's ancestral journies. ? Cheers, ? Iain.
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So results are in,? apart from 14 private variants.? Zero big y matches.
I assumed now incorrectly that the ystr match with snp difference numbers showing would have been listed.
What do you think?
Hi Jason, ? Good to hear you have your results through. You can find out more about your haplogroup on Discover:
though do be a little critical of the GlobeTrekker output for now - it is still often quite far from the truth. ? Your "terminal" haplogroup, R-FT368395, is between about 1000 and 2000 years old, but probably somewhere in the middle. We can't be more precise than that until we get more data. ? The bad news is that this means that no-one has taken a BigY test who is more closely related to you than that. If that were the case, we would have probably expected to see them on your Y-111 matches anyway. However, we can expect to eventually find new people who are closer to you and provide more accurate dates as time progresses and more people test. ? Your family is held in high esteem in our little world. Of the handful of tested people within your haplogroup, one is James Watson, one of the discoverers of the DNA double helix. You share a relationship at the age of R-FT368395, so somewhere between 1000 and 2000 years ago - that makes him a distant cousin, but very few people can claim such a close relationship! ? You also share an ancestry from somewhere between 1800 and 2600 years ago with an ancient burial, Cherry Hinton 923, from Cambridgeshire. This is via the older and larger haplogroup R-FGC51269. ? From this slightly larger haplogroup, we can start thinking about ancestral origins. This is a very difficult topic to be precise about and it's fraught with difficulty. A big part of this is because of the biases we have in testing. We can begin with the facts. Within the British Isles, the majority of R-FGC51269 appears to be English. However, there may be large continental populations of the haplogroup that are hidden due to lack of testing. You do have one German in this haplogroup. ? Now the speculation. The combination of a German match, a predominantly English distribution within the UK/Ireland and a haplogroup structure with many of its branches splitting within the period 200-600 AD (indicative of when the population growth happened) makes me think that your ancestors were part of the Germanic communities who migrated to Britain during the Dark Ages: we used to call them "Anglo-Saxons", but the cultural net was probably rather wider than this. This assessment is very much an educated guess, so you should be clear not to treat it as either fact or even a probable conclusion, simply the possibility I think most likely. ? Best wishes, ? Iain.
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Re: FamilyTreeDNA provides Y-DNA haplogroups from Family Finder autosomal tests
Thanks John, ? I hadn't thought to get the BigY numbers that way. Have you been keeping track of these? ? The haplotree's done its update, though. We now have 111,087 BigY tests out of 529,864 haplotree members, so that's another 20,000 Family Finder tests added today. ? Cheers, ? Iain.
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Re: FamilyTreeDNA provides Y-DNA haplogroups from Family Finder autosomal tests
Thanks for sharing that. I would have thought S5520 would be a part of it.?
For what it¡¯s worth, they updated my father¡¯s to FGC11674 last night.?
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On May 24, 2024, at 7:29?AM, C.B. via groups.io <irishZ156@...> wrote:
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Robert I checked out the file. My brother doesn't get a result for S5520 and S5556 is not in his file so Z156 is the most downstream YSNP that is in his file.
CB
On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 06:50:46 PM UTC, Robert McMillan via groups.io <tensawmac@...> wrote:
CB,? I would look at the downloadable file they now give on the YSNPs from family finder.? I downloaded my father¡¯s file and it has him ?positive for FGC11674 but FTDNA only assigned him R-P310.
Also, those interested in checking without looking up all of the positions may want to utilize :
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