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Hello, will this file be updated again soon to reflect the new members (including my cousin David Tucker - #573883) who have recently tested positive for R-A11376? I am having a discussion with

If you contact him, the match you are referring to is a Y-DNY37 match to Doug Liptrot. Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:52 PM To: R1b-S6881@... Subject: Re: [R1b-S6881] New file uploaded

The record for Roger Grevois does not list an “Earliest Known Ancestor.” But he does show as R-M259 at Y-DNA67 randallhammond@... Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 7:52 PM To:

I wonder if there is any connection between the last name Grevois and Graves.?

There was a pointer to an interesting article in a recent U106 group post. It is an article in the Guild of One Name Studies magazine on the Acree DNA project. The gist of it matches my own thinking

I only received the first column of the table. Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:05 PM To: R1b-S6881@... Subject: RE: [R1b-S6881] Liptrap/Liptrot testing Well, that table didn’t

It came through okay for me. I could understand it. Chris

*And isn’t the yDNA67 test supposed to thin out matches at yDNA37, rather than to find more* Not necessarily. When you get to 67 STRs you are allowed more of a GD difference before the cutoff so

Well, that table didn’t come through well How can I send an excel table? Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 5:25 PM To: R1b-S6881@... Subject: RE: [R1b-S6881] Liptrap/Liptrot

Like I said, I really expect someone on the A11377 branch of S6881 to be a “Match.” And isn’t the yDNA67 test supposed to thin out matches at yDNA37, rather than to find more? At yDNA67,

Okay, I looked at his STR results against a bunch of people who are at S6881 and beyond. 594187 is pretty far off-modal on some of the STRs making me think he's probably not what you want him to be.

Yes, 594187 that’s him Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:15 PM To: R1b-S6881@... Subject: Re: [R1b-S6881] New file uploaded to R1b-S6881 Hi Jim, I'm sorry about the two from

I really have no idea what the origin of your surname is, nor does most of the internet seem to know either. But since the Liptrap/Liptrot name is believed to have first been found in Lancashire, and

Thank you Jim for the up-date. I look forward to learning the results of your Wigan Liptot tests.? Peter Latham.

Hi Jim, I'm sorry about the two from England. They are definitely the wrong group. Since they aren't even R1b they branched off from you in the way distant past and a long, long time before

Liptrap is supposed to have derived from Liptrot. Sometime in the late 1800’s someone looked at the similarity of our names and speculated that one came from the other. Liptrap is first found

OK - Results - but no help. I found two Liptrots in Wigan, and submitted the yDNA-37 test. The first results came back yesterday. They matched ONLY each other - one step of 37 markers. (seriously -

The 1727 is Iain's estimate for you two of your Most Recent Common Ancestor, so I'd say that's pretty close to your known date of 1711. He's just estimating from SNP results without knowing your paper

Success! – so far… The Liptrap/Trapp branch is supposed to have branched off from Liptrot around 1600 (I think earlier). I went to Wigan last month, and found two Liptrots to test. They do

Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the R1b-S6881 group. File : /S6881 Tree Yahoogroup 070917.xlsx Uploaded by :