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And isn¡¯t the yDNA67 test supposed to?thin out?matches at yDNA37, rather than to find more Not necessarily. When you get to 67 STRs you are allowed more of a GD difference before the cutoff so someone who may have just missed the cutoff by 1 or 2 GDs at 37 STRs, if they don't pick up a lot more going to 67 STRs, will suddenly appear on your list. So your list could get bigger. But it will be more likely to be a match now (like more likely to at least be S6881 instead of somewhere else in the tree). Look at both Peter and Grady. Neither of them made the cutoff against you at 37 STRs but you got them on the list at 67. You have all of our A11377 and below people on your list but you are missing a bunch of the A11376 people. They are too many GDs away from you guys so they don't show up. You don't have Cunliffe, Smith, and Goff to name a few.? Where do you go from here? You can continue to play with Liptrot but I don't think it will work out close enough for you. Have you tried to contact Douglas Latham? I know sometimes people won't respond but sometimes they surprise you. You could take your STRs out to 111 to have a better idea when people come along if you really want to invest in more testing with them. Or you can go back to paper genealogy and see if you can find any distant cousins that will be willing to test. I feel your pain. I'm at a stuck point too but I'm hoping someday the right person will come along and be willing to do more testing. Chris On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 3:25 PM, 'Jim Liptrap' jim@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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