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Re: New file uploaded to R1b-S6881
dale Latham
开云体育Thank you both. I am new to this group and DNA testing. I manage kit 824376 for my uncle, Kenny Latham. I look forward to finding out which twig or branch my family line falls ?on the S6881 tree. ??My earliest known direct ancestor is proven to have lived in Clifton North Carolina as early as about 1790. His name was Alexander Latham and there is substantial evidence that he was born in Cecil County Maryland about 1756. There were numerous Lathams in that part of Maryland dating back to the 1600’s, but so far I am unable find a link.? I live in Portland Oregon. In mid July I have a family reunion in North Carolina. My family will be very interested to understand how we are related to those of you on this forum. Let me know if there is anything else you think might interest me or my closest family.? Dale Latham 503 754-8424 On Jun 3, 2018, at 9:22 PM, Chris Noble avalea3@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: New file uploaded to R1b-S6881
Looks nice, Jim. Some of those lines have divided even more because of recent results. You'll be busy splitting those branches into twigs :) Thanks. Chris On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:05 PM, 'Jim Liptrap' jim@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: New file uploaded to R1b-S6881
开云体育If it helps, I have “translated” most of the tree to a more visual format ? From: R1b-S6881@... [mailto:R1b-S6881@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 6:47 PM To: R1b-S6881@... Subject: Re: [R1b-S6881] Re: New file uploaded to R1b-S6881 ? ? Iain keeps saying that they will get back to running the analysis and ageing soon but he doesn't say when. I think they are still working out kinks on their new programming to analyze kits.? As for him seeing the tree I posted, I would doubt it. I just make this for myself to keep track of the group and only post it here. I'm glad it is useful to you. ? Chris ? On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 4:23 AM, prosperity200220815@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote: ? ?Chris,? ? The brand new updated S6881 tree is a site to be seen by us all. Thank you for updating it again.? ? Have you heard anything about where Iain might be?with his intent to have a new Age Analysis for our tree? And, has he seen what you’ve organized for us??? ? |
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Re: New file uploaded to R1b-S6881
Iain keeps saying that they will get back to running the analysis and ageing soon but he doesn't say when. I think they are still working out kinks on their new programming to analyze kits.? As for him seeing the tree I posted, I would doubt it. I just make this for myself to keep track of the group and only post it here. I'm glad it is useful to you. Chris On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 4:23 AM, prosperity200220815@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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New file uploaded to R1b-S6881
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the R1b-S6881 group. File : /S6881 Tree Yahoogroup June 2018.xlsx Uploaded by : cerri37 <avalea3@...> Description : Tree for S6881 group You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, cerri37 <avalea3@...> |
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Re: S6881 revised tree
Hi Chris, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Great! Thank you so much!? With kind regards, Rodolfo
On Monday, April 16, 2018, 9:44:52 AM GMT-3, Chris Noble avalea3@... [R1b-S6881] wrote:
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Here you go, Eric. You are really going to just upload a link to your data at FTDNA rather than the whole data file. It takes so long with the huge data file that the transfer fails so this works much better. Try the below. If you have any issues let me know. And if you need me to I can do it for you if it's too confusing but I'll need your password for your account. I don't keep the password and I've done this for a number of our members. Thanks for doing this and let me know if I can help further. Here’s how to upload your data to the Y-DNA Data Warehouse: On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:20 PM, eewarburton@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: S6881 revised tree
Here you go, Eric. You are really going to just upload a link to your data at FTDNA rather than the whole data file. It takes so long with the huge data file that the transfer fails so this works much better. Try the below. If you have any issues let me know. And if you need me to I can do it for you if it's too confusing but I'll need your password for your account. I don't keep the password and I've done this for a number of our members. Thanks for doing this and let me know if I can help further. Here’s how to upload your data to the Y-DNA Data Warehouse: On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:20 PM, eewarburton@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: S6881 revised tree
Yes, according to Iain if you don't put your data in the warehouse it won't be used for the U106 analysis or dating any longer. And they are getting ready to start it back up again soon. So if there are currently two of you at an SNP and one of you doesn't upload your data then Iain won't age that particular SNP any longer since there aren't two results for it. Also, new SNPs were found in the updated data so I would hope people would want to upload their data and see if anything new is found in theirs. If people aren't uploading just because they don't understand the steps I can help. If there are other reasons let me know and maybe we can work around them. I would hope to get almost all of our S6881 data back in the analysis again so we can have the best idea of how old our group is, where they might have come from, and how it is branching out today. Let me know how I can help. Chris On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 10:37 AM, prosperity200220815@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: S6881 revised tree
Chris,
Thank you !!! What an amazing collection of data that easily becomes a window into our shared journey through time. I have not stopped feeling the awe of looking at it.? I could not have transferred my brother and Roy’s kits without your generous help by actually doing it for me. And, now I can see on this new database how my brother has moved down the Ytree. Even if it is just a bit or more any step closer to present time is amazing. I’m now motivated again to find more cousins to test!! A question Chris.... ?What impact to the research on our S6881 lineage will there be if not all our S6881 men transfer their kit data over to the DataWarehouse. My understanding is that this is now where Dr Iain McDonald will do the data analysis including the age analysis from now on. Is that correct?? Can you say more about that?? Again, thank you so much Chis for all you are doing for us. Your expertise is such a great help and contribution to each of us. And, thank you for continuing to encourage and educate me. We are blessed to have you to guide us. Bravo! Cynthia? ---In R1b-S6881@..., <avalea3@...> wrote : Hi everyone! We haven't had an updated S6881 tree for quite some time now. Ours has always been based on the U106 group's tree but since they won't be producing a new analysis for a while I decided to see what I could come up with. Using the data from the BigY matches on FTDNA, the old U106 tree and Alex Williamson's Big Tree I've come up with what I believe to be pretty close to our current state. I've even found a few of you some new matches! I've brought these new matches to the attention of the admins in the U106 group and we're going to wait a bit to see if FTDNA catches up with us and adjusts your haplogroup. But some of you have already had your position adjusted in the U106 group STR spreadsheet and are now placed with your new match. Some others of you are going to have to wait for FTDNA. I've uploaded a copy of the tree I came up with to our Files section and anyone who wants to can check it out. A little bit of an explanation though - the tree is quite a bit larger now than it used to be, but that is good. It means we have a lot more testers and more matches. Not everyone on this tree belongs to our S6881 group or even our U106 group. But they have turned up as matches in BigY. I've also used some Y Elite testers in our tree to help you find where you sit with those around you. If you've only tested individual SNPs or SNP packs you'll have to look on the tree for someone who has a haplogroup near, or the same, as yours to see where you would be. This Excel spreadsheet has the tester's name at the top of the column and their last matched SNP at the bottom of the column in red. In most cases this will match your FTDNA haplogroup but for some we'll have to wait for them to update yours. You'll see all the SNPs our group shares in historical order starting with U106 at the top on down to the newer SNPs and where we branch off from each other. Some of the groups of SNPs will have a bold box around them. This marks a block of SNPs where we don't know exactly what order they come in as everyone in that group has tested positive for them to this point in time. Every now and then someone comes along who tests negative for some, but not all, of the SNPs in the block and the block gets broken. We're lucky and have had a block broken for us recently. The more people who test, the more blocks will get broken. If your name is in red at the top of the sheet it means that your updated Hg38 data hasn't been uploaded to the Big Tree yet. New SNPs have been found in this data so we would love to have everyone who tested BigY before last fall to upload their data so it can be analyzed for possible new SNPs. The BigY data that came out from this last fall on to today is already in the Hg38 version but we have some of these new testers who haven't uploaded that data either. I'll try to email people and see if they'll be willing to share their data. If you want help with the process of locating your data and uploading it to the Big Tree please contact me. I've helped upload data for quite a few people. I've also included in the tree the last aging data we had from Iain (far right column). It's from December 2017 so it's a little old now. New SNP matches won't have been aged by Iain yet as he is still working on a new process. But I thought you might like it there for reference. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope you find it useful. Chris |
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S6881 revised tree
Hi everyone!
We haven't had an updated S6881 tree for quite some time now. Ours has always been based on the U106 group's tree but since they won't be producing a new analysis for a while I decided to see what I could come up with. Using the data from the BigY matches on FTDNA, the old U106 tree and Alex Williamson's Big Tree I've come up with what I believe to be pretty close to our current state. I've even found a few of you some new matches! I've brought these new matches to the attention of the admins in the U106 group and we're going to wait a bit to see if FTDNA catches up with us and adjusts your haplogroup. But some of you have already had your position adjusted in the U106 group STR spreadsheet and are now placed with your new match. Some others of you are going to have to wait for FTDNA. I've uploaded a copy of the tree I came up with to our Files section and anyone who wants to can check it out. A little bit of an explanation though - the tree is quite a bit larger now than it used to be, but that is good. It means we have a lot more testers and more matches. Not everyone on this tree belongs to our S6881 group or even our U106 group. But they have turned up as matches in BigY. I've also used some Y Elite testers in our tree to help you find where you sit with those around you. If you've only tested individual SNPs or SNP packs you'll have to look on the tree for someone who has a haplogroup near, or the same, as yours to see where you would be. This Excel spreadsheet has the tester's name at the top of the column and their last matched SNP at the bottom of the column in red. In most cases this will match your FTDNA haplogroup but for some we'll have to wait for them to update yours. You'll see all the SNPs our group shares in historical order starting with U106 at the top on down to the newer SNPs and where we branch off from each other. Some of the groups of SNPs will have a bold box around them. This marks a block of SNPs where we don't know exactly what order they come in as everyone in that group has tested positive for them to this point in time. Every now and then someone comes along who tests negative for some, but not all, of the SNPs in the block and the block gets broken. We're lucky and have had a block broken for us recently. The more people who test, the more blocks will get broken. If your name is in red at the top of the sheet it means that your updated Hg38 data hasn't been uploaded to the Big Tree yet. New SNPs have been found in this data so we would love to have everyone who tested BigY before last fall to upload their data so it can be analyzed for possible new SNPs. The BigY data that came out from this last fall on to today is already in the Hg38 version but we have some of these new testers who haven't uploaded that data either. I'll try to email people and see if they'll be willing to share their data. If you want help with the process of locating your data and uploading it to the Big Tree please contact me. I've helped upload data for quite a few people. I've also included in the tree the last aging data we had from Iain (far right column). It's from December 2017 so it's a little old now. New SNP matches won't have been aged by Iain yet as he is still working on a new process. But I thought you might like it there for reference. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope you find it useful. Chris |
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New file uploaded to R1b-S6881
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the R1b-S6881 group. File : /S6881 Proposed Tree Apr 2018.xlsx Uploaded by : cerri37 <avalea3@...> Description : Updated tree You can access this file at the URL: To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit: Regards, cerri37 <avalea3@...> |
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The Big Tree Update
The admins are finally starting to work on Alex Williamson's Big Tree for the U106 group. People with BigY results from the old version (hg19) were uploaded to the tree a long time ago but only roughly placed. In other words, S6881 wasn't broken out into all its downstream branches. That has been fixed now and because some people have uploaded their hg38 version of their vcf file to the Data Warehouse there are now more branches than there used to be. If you want your new version looked at and new SNPs possibly found please make sure to upload that file to the Data Warehouse so not only Alex can work with it but also Iain. If we don't get all of our updated files loaded then there will be fewer people to use for the SNP dating that Iain does for us. If anyone has questions on how to do this let me know and I'll help. I will say this, the best way to do it is as a link to your FTDNA data and not as a physical upload of your file. I tried it that way and there are so many people uploading now that the file never loaded. This is pretty exciting news and even if you don't have a BigY file yet to add to the tree you should check out how our part of the tree looks (search for S6881 to find our piece). Any of the newer holiday testers will have the hg38 version and won't have an older version of their data. If you see people on the tree with their kit # on there twice it means that Alex has both the old and new version. Make sure he gets your newer one if you tested before this winter. Please check it out.
Chris |
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Re: It's time to upload our Hg38 VCF files!!
Thank you! ChrisOn Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:56 PM, prosperity200220815@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: It's time to upload our Hg38 VCF files!!
Hi Mary, ? I did see some talk this morning on one of the groups I belong to that someone was having trouble getting their data uploaded. On the other hand, I just did both of the Trapp/Liptrap files with no problem so if you are still having issues send me your info and link and I'll upload it for you. As for John Graves, he said he didn't want to be part of the group so someone is going to have to contact him to get the file from him. If you are in contact with him why don't you ask him? Let me know if I can be of help.Chris On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM, wiredmarys@... [R1b-S6881] <R1b-S6881@...> wrote:
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Re: It's time to upload our Hg38 VCF files!!
Hello Chris,??
Thank you for the information. I did see they were talking about needing new files but thought I'd wait until we got notice from you to know what to do.? I appreciate your info, it was very clear and perfectly done.?? I did all that was instructed, I downloaded Keith's file and filled out the form at your link twice now.? I keep getting "Unable to Reach site" error. Are folks having trouble with that or is there something wrong perhaps on my end. The message told me to check the network etc. It appears to be okay, I'm kind of at a loss to know how to check further.?? If they aren't having trouble and it's on my end, I'll be glad to submit the file to you to upload and I'll give you the info you need. Also just wondering if Keith's nearest match John J Graves gets messages from this group. Cynthia Sexton, you might know.? I am in contact with him and can ask him if anyone knows if I need to. Mary Elizabeth for Keith Lee Graves 232994 |
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Re: It's time to upload our Hg38 VCF files!!
开云体育yes ? From: R1b-S6881@... [mailto:R1b-S6881@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 11:01 PM To: R1b-S6881@... Subject: Re: [R1b-S6881] It's time to upload our Hg38 VCF files!! ? ? Okay. And you both are okay with sharing your data in the warehouse? Chris
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