No, didn’t try the front feeder. We tried the pizza wheel hack on one to disengage and that created problems and there are things in a school lab that are more difficult to do than at home
with traffic and usage. I think there was one student who used the front feeder for large negatives and I should ask him if he still had marks.
Chris
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Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?
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On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
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Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
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I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
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Chris
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Alan, I have a P900 and fortunately I?do not have the pizza wheel issue, however you mentioned in your post "Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels."? Can you provide any information about this setting? That would be helpful to many on this forum?and also if I should develop it in the future.
thanks Dave
Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.? On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via <christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
?
Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
?
I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
?
Chris
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Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Hi Alan. I have a P900 and had the wheel issue. I did as was suggested to me on this forum. Fed the printer (and printed in low opacity to save ink) a few sheets of thick posterboard. Seems that the P900 needs some time and usage to "settle" in.? Did two DTP plates and the marks have gone. Will update when I print again.
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Joe
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Just curious. Did you not have any luck using the front feeder to eliminate pizza wheels on the 900? Epson included a special setting to disengage the pizza wheels.?
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On Jan 8, 2025, at 8:40?PM, Christina Z. Anderson via groups.io <christinazanderson@...> wrote:
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
?
Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
?
I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
?
Chris
?
Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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something to consider. I use an old Mac mini i3 running Mojave to print from. It's headless. but I see old Macbooks on FB marketplace for $150.00. You can get one of those to print from. I do my editing on a more up to date computer then access the other Mac via screen share and drag my image over there and print from print tools running off that Mac. It's a lot simpler than having to struggle with getting this stuff to run consistently with Seqouia etc...
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Re: Revisiting Carbon 6/7/8 in 2024
Happy New Years all.
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I have a question about cleaning/storage solutions. I've bought PiezoFlush from Inkjet Mall and I've also bought a clear solution from Inkjet OWL. Both offering similar functionality. I recently found an online doc showing piezo cleaning formula as:  When I compare to Paul's cb6 base, the above adds glycol, alcohol and colouring. Since Pauls formula adds Edwal LFN as a surfactant, seems like it could be used as for the same purpose? Paul's formula:
55% distilled water
34% glycerol
10% Kodak Photo-Flo, and
1% Edwal LFN.
Has anyone made their own for storing and flushing your lines?
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Roy,
You are a Godsend.
It worked.
But the command for some reason had to be InstallP5300=P900.command. For some reason this printer only shows as a P5300. Then I cut and pasted all the quads into the P5300 file folder,
too, and they showed up fine.
The P 5370 is SO sensitive. You have to go through a lot of machinations to make it recognize sheet feed and not cassette or manual. AND position the OHP perfectly so the driver head sees
it. Also to push the OHP quite far down in place, do all the selections of paper type, size, etc. in the
printer control panel itself, before pressing Print in Print Tool. Otherwise, errors abound.
I also had the usual problem of the top inch of the negative print low density so I assume a workaround is no more than 9 inch image, image 1 inch away from edge, or go so far as to cut
and paste part of the image for an inch at the leading edge as some have done (that will be beyond students).
I will be making step by steps to laminate so students will not run into the myriad picky issues this printer displays, but if we can print negs with no pizza wheels I have died and gone
to heaven. We’ve kept the two P900s as backup in the lab for busy images that pizza wheels will get lost in, and just have the one P5370. I mean, it’s a BEAST in cost and size, really not a consumer model by any means.
?
Question is I wonder if it really makes a dif using 1440 super, or 2880, or 2880 super? I’m trying 1440 super to see if it’s adequate with some negs I printed.
?
I also will report back if the P900 profiles are perfectly fine or need major tweaking. So far the negatives I’ve printed for new cyanotype and palladium
look as I would expect but that doesn’t prove anything until I print prints.
?
Chris
?
Just rename script to InstallP5370=P900.command
This will find P5370 printer but use P900 driver.?
?
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:00?PM Christina Z. Anderson via
<christinazanderson=[email protected]> wrote:
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Show quoted text
We’ve switched to the Epson P5370 at work due to the P900s having such severe pizza wheel issues as to make both printers unusable for all but the busiest of images..
No luck being able to install QTR for the P5370.
Op sys attached.
Error message attached.
I’ve named it P5000, P5300 series, P5370, none work.
I’ve re-installed QTR 3x.
I’ve turned on and off printer.
I’ve made sure all permissions are read/write on the folders from Library to quadtone to quads.
Any ideas?
Someone on this list had no problem using P900 profiles on this printer, either, and I do notice the inks are the same except VLM is LM and VM is M…hope that is not an issue.
Chris
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Re: Confirming - No Windows version of Print-Tool, correct?
You are right. PrintTool is Mac only.? Windows just has QTRgui - simpler and only for QTR.?
I have to print from Photoshop on a PC/Windows machine and would love to use Print-Tool, but it's apparently Mac only.
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But just to confirm, is that correct? Is there something I'm missing?
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If so, is there a PC tool that's reasonably close in functionality?
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Confirming - No Windows version of Print-Tool, correct?
I have to print from Photoshop on a PC/Windows machine and would love to use Print-Tool, but it's apparently Mac only.
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But just to confirm, is that correct? Is there something I'm missing?
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If so, is there a PC tool that's reasonably close in functionality?
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Re: Install on Mac Sequoia
The field highlighted in red is for the standard ICC Profiles.
The QTR Curves are in the QTR Print Dialog page -- as follows:
Paper & Print Settings > Layout-QuadToneRIP > Curves 1,2,3
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Re: Registration Marks With PrintTool
Larry, I will there was a magic bullet that would fix your problem. ?Since it worked once for you and no longer does, obviously something has changed. ?And I am sure you have probably racked your brains trying to figure out what! ?Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.
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On 4 Jan 2025, at 18:47, Larry Huhn via groups.io <lehuhn@...> wrote:
Michael, you mentioned ?ch printing uv blocking borders on n PS. I used to do this and they worked great for my platinum/palladium printing. For some reason this no longer works. By not working I mean that they borders no longer seem to block the uv enough to achieve a clean border even though I can achieve a paper white within the image. I have not been able to figure out why.
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Thank you Clay. I’ll have a go with 2 (2ply) boards stuck together and will take it from there.?
I have printed without a carrier on larger plates ?but I have some small plates that are below what is allowed by the front feed of the P900.?
Thanks again for your feedback.
Joe Joseph P Smith MFA Digital Arts (Melit) MSWPP; FMPA; FBIPP; Hon. FMPS; ARPS; AFIAP Instagram: @smithfoto59 Facebook: Twitter: @smithjp59
On Sat, 04 Jan 2025 at 17:47, Clay Harmon via <w.clay.harmon= [email protected]> wrote: There appears to be some variation in the thickness of mat board. Currently, I make my carriers using a solid 2-ply for the base and then another 2-ply with a cut-out window to hold the plate. It probably wouldn’t hurt to have something thinner on the bottom as long as it has some rigidity. I know Dave Marsh makes really cool carriers using thin aluminum sheets for the bottom. And some people are able to print their plates without any carrier at all - although when I have tried doing this the plate skids and I end up with a mess.?
Hello Clay
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I have just received a pack of 2 ply matt board from Archival Methods and would like to ask the following question. Is the carrier fashioned out of 2 sheets of 2 ply board? One as a base and the
other one with the cut-out window? Or should the base be of a thinner material? I have measured the thickness of 2 boards together and this works out at 1.43mm (not 1.27mm).?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks and a Happy New Year to all.
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Where are you supposed to be able to use the curve descriptor files?? I successfully set these up and used them in an older OS but it's been a few years now and I have not been able to get it to work with this new install.? When they are working correctly should they show up in the area indicated with the red box below?
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Re: Registration Marks With PrintTool
Michael, you mentioned printing uv blocking borders in PS. I use to do this and it worked great for my platinum/palladium printing. For some reason this no longer works. By not working I mean that the borders no longer seem to block the uv enough to achieve a clean border even though I can achieve a paper white within the image. I have not been able to figure out why.
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There appears to be some variation in the thickness of mat board. Currently, I make my carriers using a solid 2-ply for the base and then another 2-ply with a cut-out window to hold the plate. It probably wouldn’t hurt to have something thinner on the bottom as long as it has some rigidity. I know Dave Marsh makes really cool carriers using thin aluminum sheets for the bottom. And some people are able to print their plates without any carrier at all - although when I have tried doing this the plate skids and I end up with a mess.?
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On Jan 4, 2025, at 10:14?AM, Joe Smith via groups.io <smithfoto59@...> wrote:
Hello Clay
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I have just received a pack of 2 ply matt board from Archival Methods and would like to ask the following question. Is the carrier fashioned out of 2 sheets of 2 ply board? One as a base and the
other one with the cut-out window? Or should the base be of a thinner material? I have measured the thickness of 2 boards together and this works out at 1.43mm (not 1.27mm).?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks and a Happy New Year to all.
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Hello Clay
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I have just received a pack of 2 ply matt board from Archival Methods and would like to ask the following question. Is the carrier fashioned out of 2 sheets of 2 ply board? One as a base and the
other one with the cut-out window? Or should the base be of a thinner material? I have measured the thickness of 2 boards together and this works out at 1.43mm (not 1.27mm).?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks and a Happy New Year to all.
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Re: Registration Marks With PrintTool
Thanks Greg and Michael. I will go back to creating them in PS. I just thought there might be a simple way to do it in PT that I wasn’t finding.
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Re: Registration Marks With PrintTool
As Greg pointed out you can add registration marks via PS onto your image file by increasing the canvas (and depending upon your process also print UV blocking “strips” around the image perimeter to hide brush marks).? You could also create a separate “registration image” file and place it, along with your image file within Print Tool.
Another way, depending upon your registration requirements is to use the text tool with Print Tool.? For example, you can use this function to print a * or + around the corners outside of your print that function as registration marks.
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Re: Registration Marks With PrintTool
I just add them manually in photoshop.?
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On Jan 3, 2025, at 8:06?PM, Larry Huhn via groups.io <lehuhn@...> wrote:
? Can anyone here tell me if there is a way to print registration marks directly from PrintTool? I can do it from the Epson driver but I am not seeing a way to do this with PrintTool.
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Registration Marks With PrintTool
Can anyone here tell me if there is a way to print registration marks directly from PrintTool? I can do it from the Epson driver but I am not seeing a way to do this with PrintTool.
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greg brophy