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On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous name to hide their true identity.
Their main purpose on your forum is to get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way.
If a Troll is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures their identity.
The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is ignore their posts.
Dave VE3KCL?
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Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
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John AE5X
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Since when has posting personal opinion or FACTS been a crime ?
Only in YOUR minds it seems.
Welcome to democracy, Chinese style ?
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On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2021 17:44:59 -03 VE3KCL wrote:
> On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous name
> to hide their true identity. Their main purpose on your forum is to
> get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to
> contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way. If a Troll
> is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures
> their identity. The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is
> ignore their posts. Dave VE3KCL
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"grumpy old men were sometimes nicknamed "Albert Tatlock"
and sometimes they are amusing ...
Don't let your spirits be weared down.
73 de Eike ZP6CGE
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If you really care who he is, it’s not hard; took me about 5 minutes using his old moniker of ‘jesuschristontoast’, and frankly I’ve already forgotten because he is insignificant to me.? He’s also blocked by my email provider.? ? Mike WM4B ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of VE3KCL
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:45 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [QRPLabs] Troll ? On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous name to hide their true identity.
Their main purpose on your forum is to get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way.
If a Troll is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures their identity.
The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is ignore their posts.
Dave VE3KCL?
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:02 PM, Eike Lantzsch wrote:
"grumpy old men were sometimes nicknamed "Albert Tatlock"
and sometimes they are amusing ...
Don't let your spirits be weared down.
73 de Eike ZP6CGE
My hat goes off to you Eike. You get the joke. And yet a bunch of so called elitist dudes in so called 1st world countries cannot ;-)
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On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2021 18:02:25 -03 Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2021 17:44:59 -03 VE3KCL wrote:
On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous
name
to hide their true identity. Their main purpose on your forum is to
get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to
contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way. If a Troll
is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures
their identity. The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is
ignore their posts. Dave VE3KCL "grumpy old men were sometimes nicknamed "Albert Tatlock"
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and sometimes they are amusing ...
Don't let your spirits be weared down.
73 de Eike ZP6CGE Where is the troll when one needs him(it?) it ought to be: "be worn down". :-/
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My last word to the Troll Can you share your certifications and reason for your "expert advice". Also I have not seen your vast cache of non drivel videos yet. Please remove yourself from this list.
Happy Holidays Mr Troll
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 3:56 PM Albert Tatlock's Greatest Hits - Vol 1 via <andyfoad= [email protected]> wrote:
Since when has posting personal opinion or FACTS been a crime ?
Only in YOUR minds it seems.
Welcome to democracy, Chinese style ?
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These days I suspect that expressing pity for someone would be considered a bad thing becasue it could be seen as condescending or patronizing. But when someone actually self identifies to a description like this one it's just sad ... patheitic even.
In this situation help can't be offered so the best thing to do is to figuratively look away and walk on past (i.e. as noted ignore their posts).
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:44 PM, VE3KCL wrote:
On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous name to hide their true identity.
Their main purpose on your forum is to get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way.
If a Troll is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures their identity.
The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is ignore their posts.
Dave VE3KCL?
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If we have just a few dudes that must wear masks oh well. Using one's real call adds real ham radio culture to their contributions. We'll one of the 3 we did unmask, hard to say if the other 2 have a non-fictional ID here.?
Curt
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That is a great idea, and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. John K0FTC
On Sunday, December 19, 2021, 01:54:25 PM MST, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote:
Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts.
Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.?? Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.?? Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.?? "Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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I haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding them that like with anything else in life you should listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no stinkin badges for that!?
It's always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even leave out the finals until the proper time...?
Hans could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX and outsell the ham one honestly...?
My advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one like me.?
de the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....?
Fred W0FMS
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote:
Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts.
Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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Fred, ? From what I’ve seen, you’re no troll… a curmudgeon maybe (like me!) but certainly not a troll. ? As for the REAL troll… he gives a bad name to trolls. ? 73 es Merry Christmas, ? Mike WM4B (harumph) ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Spinner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll ? I haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding them that like with anything else in life you should listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no stinkin badges for that!? It's always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even leave out the finals until the proper time...? Hans could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX and outsell the ham one honestly...? My advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one like me.? de the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....? ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote: Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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Besides.... his breath sticks and his feet are sweaty and smelly.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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-------- Original message -------- From: Mike Besemer - WM4B <mwbesemer@...> Date: 12/20/21 9:44 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll
Fred, ? From what I’ve seen, you’re no troll… a curmudgeon maybe (like me!) but certainly not a troll. ? As for the REAL troll… he gives a bad name to trolls. ? 73 es Merry Christmas, ? Mike WM4B (harumph) ? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Spinner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll ? I haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding them that like with anything else in life you should listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no stinkin badges for that!? It's always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even leave out the finals until the proper time...? Hans could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX and outsell the ham one honestly...? My advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one like me.? de the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....? ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote: Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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You just made me spit my Bourbon on my QDX! ? Mike WM4B ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of wa8yan.radio via groups.io
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 10:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll? Besides.... his breath sticks and his feet are sweaty and smelly. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Besemer - WM4B <mwbesemer@...> Date: 12/20/21 9:44 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll Fred, ? From what I’ve seen, you’re no troll… a curmudgeon maybe (like me!) but certainly not a troll. ? As for the REAL troll… he gives a bad name to trolls. ? 73 es Merry Christmas, ? Mike WM4B (harumph) ? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Spinner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll ? I haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding them that like with anything else in life you should listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no stinkin badges for that!? It's always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even leave out the finals until the proper time...? Hans could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX and outsell the ham one honestly...? My advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one like me.? de the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....? ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote: Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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You just christened it. Scotch is the right way to do it.
Jim - W4BQP since 1953
On 12/20/2021 10:34 PM, Mike Besemer -
WM4B wrote:
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You
just made me spit my Bourbon on my QDX!
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Mike
WM4B
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Besides.... his breath sticks and his
feet are sweaty and smelly.
Sent from my
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Original message --------
Date: 12/20/21
9:44 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re:
[QRPLabs] Troll
Fred,
?
From
what I’ve seen, you’re no troll… a curmudgeon maybe (like
me!) but certainly not a troll.
?
As
for the REAL troll… he gives a bad name to trolls.
?
73
es Merry Christmas,
?
Mike
WM4B
(harumph)
?
?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Fred Spinner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll
?
I
haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I
have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding
them that like with anything else in life you should
listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have
Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no
stinkin badges for that!?
It's
always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham
groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great
receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even
leave out the finals until the proper time...?
Hans
could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX
and outsell the ham one honestly...?
My
advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one
like me.?
de
the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....?
?
On
Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote:
Better
yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum
subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and
many groups amateur radio related do require names and
call signs with posts.
Yes,
Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this
may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone
in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call
sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!?
An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how
someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't
comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't
respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and
they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having
fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this
forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that
it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run
seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and
have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~
Sgt. Hulka
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All of us whohams from HamWhoville know who the green troll is here, no matter what name he goes by.?
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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-------- Original message -------- From: Mike Besemer - WM4B <mwbesemer@...> Date: 12/20/21 10:34 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll
You just made me spit my Bourbon on my QDX! ? Mike WM4B ? ? Besides.... his breath sticks and his feet are sweaty and smelly. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Mike Besemer - WM4B <mwbesemer@...> Date: 12/20/21 9:44 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll Fred, ? From what I’ve seen, you’re no troll… a curmudgeon maybe (like me!) but certainly not a troll. ? As for the REAL troll… he gives a bad name to trolls. ? 73 es Merry Christmas, ? Mike WM4B (harumph) ? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Spinner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll ? I haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding them that like with anything else in life you should listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no stinkin badges for that!? It's always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even leave out the finals until the proper time...? Hans could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX and outsell the ham one honestly...? My advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one like me.? de the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....? ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote: Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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I’m not man enough for Scotch, Jim… I’ve tried and failed.? Bourbon is the best I can manage! ? 73 es Merry Christmas, ? Mike WM4B ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Campbell
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 10:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll? You just christened it. Scotch is the right way to do it.
Jim - W4BQP since 1953 On 12/20/2021 10:34 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B wrote: You just made me spit my Bourbon on my QDX! ? Mike WM4B ? ? Besides.... his breath sticks and his feet are sweaty and smelly. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- Date: 12/20/21 9:44 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll Fred, ? From what I’ve seen, you’re no troll… a curmudgeon maybe (like me!) but certainly not a troll. ? As for the REAL troll… he gives a bad name to trolls. ? 73 es Merry Christmas, ? Mike WM4B (harumph) ? ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Fred Spinner
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] Troll ? I haven't been an Elmer or a VE for quite some time, but I have blown many a students mind in the past by reminding them that like with anything else in life you should listen more than 80% of the time, and that they all have Extra Class receiving ability already!? Don't need no stinkin badges for that!? It's always been a bad idea to exclude non hams from ham groups.? Honestly, a QCX or QDX could be a great receiver for someone starting off.? ?You could even leave out the finals until the proper time...? Hans could probably make a SWL RX only version of the QSX and outsell the ham one honestly...? My advice:? if you are going to be troll, be a grumpy one like me.? de the "Extra Grumpy Troll"....? ? On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 02:54 PM, John AE5X wrote: Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:58 PM, John K0FTC wrote:
and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. Yes, Johns.? By all means, show your papers.? But, and this may be a stretch, but just consider it, what if someone in this forum isn't a ham, or doesn't want their call sign associated with this forum?? Then what?? Horrors!? An interloper!? Is it really any of your business how someone signs into this forum?? If you aren't comfortable talking to plain old "Pat," then don't respond.??
Trolls are a part of internet life.? Ignore them and they usually go away.? Discuss them and they feast.??
Ham radio is a fun hobby, and I most enjoy those having fun with the hobby.? I have learned so much from this forum and the comments, advice, and suggestions, that it's hard to take any criticism of how this is run seriously.? Filter out the negative.? Collaborate and have fun.??
"Lighten up, Francis.? We're all in this together."? ~ Sgt. Hulka
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Amen to the Bourbon!
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Very best 72/73 from Vermont. .
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On 12/20/2021 11:03 PM, Mike Besemer -
WM4B wrote:
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I’m
not man enough for Scotch, Jim… I’ve tried and failed.?
Bourbon is the best I can manage!
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73
es Merry Christmas,
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Mike
WM4B
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John
Fred Spinner
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