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Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

Stephen Farthing
 

Hi Kurt,

What frequency band is "medfer" ?

Steve


Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

Stephen Farthing
 

Hans,?

I know he is referring to the old kit. I sold it to him!?

Steve


Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

"Facility 406 DM09"
 

"Hi, has anyone else built this one? I can not get the Xtal to oscillate
all..."

How low in frequency can the 160m model go? Any chance of using it as a
MedFER beacon?

Kurt


Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

Stephen Farthing
 

we dont sell a 160 m ultimate beacon....yet! I have to test it first.

73s Steve


Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

"zl1ujg"
 

Hi
Another thing one could try assuming its the older QRSS TX, not the new multimode one, is to bypass the collector resistor of the oscillator transistor. A 100nF capacitor across that resistor may help.

The unbypassed resistor provides (unintentional) negative feedback and in some situations can cause problems.

Kevin
ZL1UJG


Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

"woodiescbj"
 

Many thanks for your relpy Chris, I will try that out.

--- In QRPLabs@..., Chris McWhinnie <chrismac@...> wrote:

More likely to need a bit more feedback? try some capacitance ~30pF? from
base to emitter or base to collector. Or across other oscillator
components. It may kick-start.

Sent from Chris McW's iPhone
Amateur radio callsign: G?MQW


On 13 Aug 2012, at 13:41, woodiescbj <jobaco@...> wrote:



Hi, has anyone else built this one? I can not get the Xtal to oscillate all
componants are in the right place with values checked and correct, no dry
joints or solder splashes, number of turns on L1 maybe need adjusting?

Any ideas please.

73 de Colin DD5CF


Re: QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

Chris McWhinnie
 

More likely to need a bit more feedback? try some?capacitance ~30pF? from base to emitter or base to collector. Or across other oscillator components. It may kick-start.?

Sent from Chris McW's iPhone
Amateur radio callsign: G?MQW

On 13 Aug 2012, at 13:41, woodiescbj <jobaco@...> wrote:

?

Hi, has anyone else built this one? I can not get the Xtal to oscillate all componants are in the right place with values checked and correct, no dry joints or solder splashes, number of turns on L1 maybe need adjusting?

Any ideas please.

73 de Colin DD5CF


QRSS transmitter 160m band, help needed please

"woodiescbj"
 

Hi, has anyone else built this one? I can not get the Xtal to oscillate all componants are in the right place with values checked and correct, no dry joints or solder splashes, number of turns on L1 maybe need adjusting?

Any ideas please.

73 de Colin DD5CF


Re: 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input ** help **

"G1IVG"
 

It's working....

Thanks for all the help both on the group and also the direct e-mails.
I've just got to box it up now and put it on air to test. I've tried all modes in the shack with the TX fed into a dumyload and all appears OK.

In the end I had to configure the Trimble ACE iii GPS for $GPRMC using some software I found on the net called NMEATool. I had to go through a MAX233 level convertor so that my serial port could talk to the GPS module for configuring it.

I then fed the NMEA from the GPS direct to the RxD pin on the kit.

The 1PPS was also fed direct from the GPS module to the Pps pin on the kit.

I then configured the kit for USE GPS ON and set it up for 4800,01,1,8

Then after a short while I got the Frequency appear when in the TEST mode.


Thanks again all.
Regards
Colin G1IVG

--- In QRPLabs@..., "G1IVG" <colinlowe_home@...> wrote:

I have a Trimble ACE iii GPS module that I'm trying to interface to the Ultimate Multimode kit.

I have put the NMEA output from the GPS through a MAX233 TTL to RS232 level convertor and fed that to the NMEA input pin on the kit as the GPS outputs NMEA at CMOS TTL levels.

I'm not sure what polarity and signal level the PPS signal the kit is looking for on the kits PPS input pin. I have tried wiring the PPS from the GPS direct to the kits PPS input pin, however it doesn't work (kit in TEST mode and no freq displayed).

The polarity of the PPS signal from the Trimble ACE iii GPS as standard is an inverted 10&#956;s negative going pulse with the falling edge synchronized to UTC.

Should the PPS signal fed into the kit be a positive pulse or negative? I have read that i can use a 10k pull up resistor to make it a positive pulse.

If and when I get it all running I will document it and place the details in the files area.

73 de Colin G1IVG


Re: 76 hours and counting..

Stephen Farthing
 

Phillip,

That is very encouraging. When I have the time I am thinking of a couple of modifications for mine. Remote mounting of the GPS is a good idea.?

Firstly, to save power, I was going to try switching the display off when I don't need it. Secondly to put a stepped attenuator between the beacon and the aerial so I can see how low I can go!?

I am waiting for the voltage regulators you recommended to arrive from the orient.?

73s Steve G0XAR


76 hours and counting..

"Philip"
 

My Ultimate QRSS rig has now run for 76 hours without problems
using WSPR mode..
It's been using a 10AH lead acid battery for power and today, it
measured 11.3 Volts on the terminals, a drop from 12.4 Volts which
isn't bad for untethered power (had the solar panel disconnected).

Anyhoo, very pleased and will turn it off later for some mods...
Going to put the GPS module into a seperate box with 6 pin din
connectios to the rig.
This means with a din socket on each QRSS rig, I can easily swap/share
the GPS module.

Also, will be fitting a variable DC to DC convertor to give a variable
supply to the PA transistor for tweaking power levels..

Great fun with loads of spots and a fair few inter G on 30 today..
Onwards and upwards

Philip G4JVF


Data for my QRSS Ultimate Experiences Uploaded

"David Barber"
 

Re: QRSS Ultimate 30.

I have uploaded a series of test notes, observations, etc. to the "Files"
area under "G8OQW".

All notes are in txt format and appear packaged with any associated
pictures.

Hope these might be of some use to others.

Comments welcome.

David
G8OQW
***


Re: 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input ** help **

"g8oqw"
 

Many thanks Stephen, you've already processed the updated chip for me as confirmed by your shop system.

I included the remark to indicate the locator calculation had occurred but to acknowledge the error.

Thanks again.

David
G8OQW
***

--- In QRPLabs@..., Stephen Farthing <squirrox@...> wrote:

David,

The incorrect locator has been corrected in Firmware release 1.04. You can
order this from the shop.

73s Steve

On 12 August 2012 11:14, David Barber <david.barber@...>wrote:

**


Hi Colin,

I'm just putting together some info after experiments yesterday but
briefly:

QRSS Firmware V1.02

GPS board is Sure Electronics GP-GS010. (Just because I had one)

Gnd (QRSS) to Gnd (GPS)
+5V Pin 1 (QRSS) to +5V (GPS)
Data In (QRSS) to Data Out 5V CMOS Level (GPS)
1pps In (QRSS) to 1pps Out 3.3V CMOS Level (GPS)

Power to QRSS +5V Supply pin.

"Use GPS" to On
"GPS Baud" default of 09600,01,1,8
Set "Locator" to OO00

Running QRSS in test mode on start, once GPS had acquired signals, it
showed
and updated frequency next to "Test" on the display.

When checking through Menu. Locator had updated but incorrectly (as
expected) to show JO91, should be JO01. Time was correctly shown.

1pps signal is true / high.

Regards

David
G8OQW
***


-----Original Message-----
From: QRPLabs@... [mailto:QRPLabs@...] On Behalf
Of
G1IVG
Sent: 12 August 2012 10:42
To: QRPLabs@...
Subject: [QRPLabs] 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input **
help **

I have a Trimble ACE iii GPS module that I'm trying to interface to the
Ultimate Multimode kit.

I have put the NMEA output from the GPS through a MAX233 TTL to RS232 level
convertor and fed that to the NMEA input pin on the kit as the GPS outputs
NMEA at CMOS TTL levels.

I'm not sure what polarity and signal level the PPS signal the kit is
looking for on the kits PPS input pin. I have tried wiring the PPS from the
GPS direct to the kits PPS input pin, however it doesn't work (kit in TEST
mode and no freq displayed).

The polarity of the PPS signal from the Trimble ACE iii GPS as standard is
an inverted 10&#956;s negative going pulse with the falling edge
synchronized to UTC.

Should the PPS signal fed into the kit be a positive pulse or negative? I
have read that i can use a 10k pull up resistor to make it a positive
pulse.

If and when I get it all running I will document it and place the details
in
the files area.

73 de Colin G1IVG



Re: 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input ** help **

Stephen Farthing
 

David,?

The incorrect locator has been corrected in Firmware release 1.04. You can order this from the shop.

73s Steve


On 12 August 2012 11:14, David Barber <david.barber@...> wrote:
?

Hi Colin,

I'm just putting together some info after experiments yesterday but briefly:

QRSS Firmware V1.02

GPS board is Sure Electronics GP-GS010. (Just because I had one)

Gnd (QRSS) to Gnd (GPS)
+5V Pin 1 (QRSS) to +5V (GPS)
Data In (QRSS) to Data Out 5V CMOS Level (GPS)
1pps In (QRSS) to 1pps Out 3.3V CMOS Level (GPS)

Power to QRSS +5V Supply pin.

"Use GPS" to On
"GPS Baud" default of 09600,01,1,8
Set "Locator" to OO00

Running QRSS in test mode on start, once GPS had acquired signals, it showed
and updated frequency next to "Test" on the display.

When checking through Menu. Locator had updated but incorrectly (as
expected) to show JO91, should be JO01. Time was correctly shown.

1pps signal is true / high.

Regards

David
G8OQW
***



-----Original Message-----
From: QRPLabs@... [mailto:QRPLabs@...] On Behalf Of
G1IVG
Sent: 12 August 2012 10:42
To: QRPLabs@...
Subject: [QRPLabs] 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input **
help **

I have a Trimble ACE iii GPS module that I'm trying to interface to the
Ultimate Multimode kit.

I have put the NMEA output from the GPS through a MAX233 TTL to RS232 level
convertor and fed that to the NMEA input pin on the kit as the GPS outputs
NMEA at CMOS TTL levels.

I'm not sure what polarity and signal level the PPS signal the kit is
looking for on the kits PPS input pin. I have tried wiring the PPS from the
GPS direct to the kits PPS input pin, however it doesn't work (kit in TEST
mode and no freq displayed).

The polarity of the PPS signal from the Trimble ACE iii GPS as standard is
an inverted 10&#956;s negative going pulse with the falling edge
synchronized to UTC.

Should the PPS signal fed into the kit be a positive pulse or negative? I
have read that i can use a 10k pull up resistor to make it a positive pulse.

If and when I get it all running I will document it and place the details in
the files area.

73 de Colin G1IVG



Re: 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input ** help **

"David Barber"
 

Hi Colin,

I'm just putting together some info after experiments yesterday but briefly:

QRSS Firmware V1.02

GPS board is Sure Electronics GP-GS010. (Just because I had one)

Gnd (QRSS) to Gnd (GPS)
+5V Pin 1 (QRSS) to +5V (GPS)
Data In (QRSS) to Data Out 5V CMOS Level (GPS)
1pps In (QRSS) to 1pps Out 3.3V CMOS Level (GPS)

Power to QRSS +5V Supply pin.

"Use GPS" to On
"GPS Baud" default of 09600,01,1,8
Set "Locator" to OO00

Running QRSS in test mode on start, once GPS had acquired signals, it showed
and updated frequency next to "Test" on the display.

When checking through Menu. Locator had updated but incorrectly (as
expected) to show JO91, should be JO01. Time was correctly shown.

1pps signal is true / high.

Regards

David
G8OQW
***

-----Original Message-----
From: QRPLabs@... [mailto:QRPLabs@...] On Behalf Of
G1IVG
Sent: 12 August 2012 10:42
To: QRPLabs@...
Subject: [QRPLabs] 1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input **
help **

I have a Trimble ACE iii GPS module that I'm trying to interface to the
Ultimate Multimode kit.

I have put the NMEA output from the GPS through a MAX233 TTL to RS232 level
convertor and fed that to the NMEA input pin on the kit as the GPS outputs
NMEA at CMOS TTL levels.

I'm not sure what polarity and signal level the PPS signal the kit is
looking for on the kits PPS input pin. I have tried wiring the PPS from the
GPS direct to the kits PPS input pin, however it doesn't work (kit in TEST
mode and no freq displayed).

The polarity of the PPS signal from the Trimble ACE iii GPS as standard is
an inverted 10&#956;s negative going pulse with the falling edge
synchronized to UTC.

Should the PPS signal fed into the kit be a positive pulse or negative? I
have read that i can use a 10k pull up resistor to make it a positive pulse.


If and when I get it all running I will document it and place the details in
the files area.

73 de Colin G1IVG


1pps signal from GPS to the Ultimate kits 1pps input ** help **

"G1IVG"
 

I have a Trimble ACE iii GPS module that I'm trying to interface to the Ultimate Multimode kit.

I have put the NMEA output from the GPS through a MAX233 TTL to RS232 level convertor and fed that to the NMEA input pin on the kit as the GPS outputs NMEA at CMOS TTL levels.

I'm not sure what polarity and signal level the PPS signal the kit is looking for on the kits PPS input pin. I have tried wiring the PPS from the GPS direct to the kits PPS input pin, however it doesn't work (kit in TEST mode and no freq displayed).

The polarity of the PPS signal from the Trimble ACE iii GPS as standard is an inverted 10&#956;s negative going pulse with the falling edge synchronized to UTC.

Should the PPS signal fed into the kit be a positive pulse or negative? I have read that i can use a 10k pull up resistor to make it a positive pulse.

If and when I get it all running I will document it and place the details in the files area.

73 de Colin G1IVG


Re: Ultimate kit problem

Bob
 

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Thanks Steve and Tony for the replies.

Steve, I placed an order in the system this morning for the processor chip. Thanks for the trimmer also as the local supplier only carries the cheap plastic ones.

The MEPT is on air currently on 10139990 running QRSS1 but producing CW mode and is visible on ZL2IK's grabber.

Bob? VK7ZL


On 11/08/2012 22:21, Stephen Farthing wrote:
?

Hi Bob,


Sorry about the faulty trimmer. I'll send you a new one along with a new processor with the latest firmware. To keep things square with the shop database could you order the chip from the shop at . Otherwise my stock control goes out of control if you see what I mean.?

A number of people have reported the same problem which is solved in the latest version of the firmware. Basically some power supplies when switched off can cause problems with the EEPROM in the AVR chip which in some cases cannot be corrected by inputting the parameters again.?

I just spend the morning packing 50 or so chips to send out in the post first thing Monday morning. So if you can get your order in today or tomorrow it will ship with the rest of them.

Regards,

Steve G0XAR

-- 
LF/HF QRSS Grabber: 

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Re: WSPR success

"Philip"
 

Interesting information Kevin...
Thank you

Philip G4JVF

--- In QRPLabs@..., "zl1ujg" <zl1ujg@...> wrote:

Hi,
Re the crystals.

I get my crystals from Krystaly in the Czech Republic
www.krystaly.cz

Re the spec of the crystals
You may want to specify some more parameters, to obtain a better product.
Preaging is definitely worth having, as that will reduce early aging drift.

Frequency 14.097100 MHz
Mode:-Fundamental
AT Cut
Crystal loading 30 pF
Holder HC49/u (Wire in)
Preaging +/- 1ppm per year
Temperature range -10 to +60
Temperature Stability +/- 10 ppm
Calibration +/- 10ppm
ESR ~ 20 ohms
Quantity...

Notes:- Ask for quote/ price break and payment methods, as I am unsure of European costings.

I get about 6 crystals (usually different types) on average per order as there are other bank costs associated with tranactions from NZ

I use them both for professional and ham projects. The products are very, very good and very cost competitive with local Australasian product

Another point to consider, is if you want better stability, is to run the crystal with a simple oven, in that case the spec will be different and one has to decide on an operating temperature, instead of temperature range.

This would make the GPS applied correction, easier.

Note:- Logic gate oscillators do stress crystals quite a lot, and is not optimum for stability due to a number of issues.

Kevin
ZL1UJG


Re: WSPR success

"zl1ujg"
 

Hi,
Re the crystals.

I get my crystals from Krystaly in the Czech Republic
www.krystaly.cz

Re the spec of the crystals
You may want to specify some more parameters, to obtain a better product.
Preaging is definitely worth having, as that will reduce early aging drift.

Frequency 14.097100 MHz
Mode:-Fundamental
AT Cut
Crystal loading 30 pF
Holder HC49/u (Wire in)
Preaging +/- 1ppm per year
Temperature range -10 to +60
Temperature Stability +/- 10 ppm
Calibration +/- 10ppm
ESR ~ 20 ohms
Quantity...

Notes:- Ask for quote/ price break and payment methods, as I am unsure of European costings.

I get about 6 crystals (usually different types) on average per order as there are other bank costs associated with tranactions from NZ

I use them both for professional and ham projects. The products are very, very good and very cost competitive with local Australasian product

Another point to consider, is if you want better stability, is to run the crystal with a simple oven, in that case the spec will be different and one has to decide on an operating temperature, instead of temperature range.

This would make the GPS applied correction, easier.

Note:- Logic gate oscillators do stress crystals quite a lot, and is not optimum for stability due to a number of issues.

Kevin
ZL1UJG


Re: Upgrade chips status

"nigel.m0nde@..."
 

thanks Steve

73

Nigel Evans
M0NDE
QTH Burnham on Sea



On 11 Aug 2012, at 13:32, Stephen Farthing <squirrox@...> wrote:

?

Guys,


I have programmed and packaged all of the ordered upgrade chips and will post them on Monday. Thanks for your patience.?

73s Steve