That is a great idea, and many groups amateur radio related do require names and call signs with posts. John K0FTC
On Sunday, December 19, 2021, 01:54:25 PM MST, John AE5X <ae5x@...> wrote:
Better yet, Hans could require full name or callsign for forum subscribers.?
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John AE5X
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If we have just a few dudes that must wear masks oh well. Using one's real call adds real ham radio culture to their contributions. We'll one of the 3 we did unmask, hard to say if the other 2 have a non-fictional ID here.?
Curt
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Dave that's fine when the supply is unlimited which will likely be the case with the QDX at some point as is became for the QCX.? In the mean time,? altruism would be each person only taking one. Nothing stopping someone from building the one they bought for someone else though.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 5:44 PM Dave VE3GSO < VE3GSO@...> wrote: Consider that someone who orders two kits might be building one for another ham who has neither the eyesight nor the skills to assemble the kit, but who is a complete FT-8 and JS-8 fanatic.? Your ¡°greed¡± may very well be another¡¯s altruism. Dave ? Yes, I guess you are right. Some folks will always be greedy. It is a shame though.
They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one
They did have a shot, same as everyone else who tried to order. Sooner or later the kits run out, and no matter how many hams got one, or more, the guy who didn't will cry foul, and scream "unfair!". It's just how the world works, and any attempt to rig the system will fail to provide "fairness". If you limit the number of kits people will just go right back in and try ordering using another name, etc. I'd rather the multiple orders get in and out of the way and not clog up the server for other people. But that's just my not so humble opinion.
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Kirk < my1kwords@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
I didn't see it as a knock against Hans. He has gone over and above. My gripe is with those who purchased more than one for whatever reason. When a supply is so limited it just comes across as a bit greedy.? I was able to get one but so many who took the time to come to the site at the opening of the sale didn't. They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one.
Wow! I was hoping the fairness police would never invade this little corner of Ham Radio. I guess we're not safe anywhere in these times. Seriously guys, what has Hans done that's unfair? Other than offer a kit that many wish to buy. So, if it's not Hans, what have the buyers done that's unfair? They read the announcement, they did the old 160 thing, BIC, and along with many others, they took a shot at getting one or more of the limited number of kits. I couldn't care less if someone ordered 20 kits, they took the same chance as everyone else in the ordering process.
Hans went out of his way to make it as "fair" as humanly possible by announcing the sale date and time well in advance. The only way to make this unfair is to give certain people an advantage over others. That would not be "fair".
Sorry, I usually don't get in on these discussions, but I'm a bit fed up with complaints of unfairness everywhere I look lately. If you'll all excuse me now I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket. If I don't win I guess I'll just file a complaint about fairness with the lottery commission.
*you old 160 guys or SWLs know what BIC means, you gotta be there to work 'em*
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer - WM4B < mwbesemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go!
?
Mike
WM4B
?
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Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package.
Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Consider that someone who orders two kits might be building one for another ham who has neither the eyesight nor the skills to assemble the kit, but who is a complete FT-8 and JS-8 fanatic. ?Your ¡°greed¡± may very well be another¡¯s altruism. Dave
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On Dec 19, 2021, at 18:56, Kerry Kirk <my1kwords@...> wrote:
? Yes, I guess you are right. Some folks will always be greedy. It is a shame though.
They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one
They did have a shot, same as everyone else who tried to order. Sooner or later the kits run out, and no matter how many hams got one, or more, the guy who didn't will cry foul, and scream "unfair!". It's just how the world works, and any attempt to rig the system will fail to provide "fairness". If you limit the number of kits people will just go right back in and try ordering using another name, etc. I'd rather the multiple orders get in and out of the way and not clog up the server for other people. But that's just my not so humble opinion.
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Kirk < my1kwords@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
I didn't see it as a knock against Hans. He has gone over and above. My gripe is with those who purchased more than one for whatever reason. When a supply is so limited it just comes across as a bit greedy.? I was able to get one but so many who took the time to come to the site at the opening of the sale didn't. They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one.
Wow! I was hoping the fairness police would never invade this little corner of Ham Radio. I guess we're not safe anywhere in these times. Seriously guys, what has Hans done that's unfair? Other than offer a kit that many wish to buy. So, if it's not Hans, what have the buyers done that's unfair? They read the announcement, they did the old 160 thing, BIC, and along with many others, they took a shot at getting one or more of the limited number of kits. I couldn't care less if someone ordered 20 kits, they took the same chance as everyone else in the ordering process.
Hans went out of his way to make it as "fair" as humanly possible by announcing the sale date and time well in advance. The only way to make this unfair is to give certain people an advantage over others. That would not be "fair".
Sorry, I usually don't get in on these discussions, but I'm a bit fed up with complaints of unfairness everywhere I look lately. If you'll all excuse me now I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket. If I don't win I guess I'll just file a complaint about fairness with the lottery commission.
*you old 160 guys or SWLs know what BIC means, you gotta be there to work 'em*
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer - WM4B < mwbesemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go!
?
Mike
WM4B
?
?
Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package.
Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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These days I suspect that expressing pity for someone would be considered a bad thing becasue it could be seen as condescending or patronizing. But when someone actually self identifies to a description like this one it's just sad ... patheitic even.
In this situation help can't be offered so the best thing to do is to figuratively look away and walk on past (i.e. as noted ignore their posts).
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On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 12:44 PM, VE3KCL wrote:
On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous name to hide their true identity.
Their main purpose on your forum is to get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way.
If a Troll is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures their identity.
The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is ignore their posts.
Dave VE3KCL?
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
For what it¡¯s worth, I was a Dave Casler review of original QCX that got me started with QRP labs.
John N0jt
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
QRP-Labs (Hans) continues to produce amazing products at an amazing price with exceptional support.? This forum is the primary platform to provide support and product information.? It is pathetic that is has to be hijacked by discussions like this.? As a small company working against a once in a lifetime product shortage Hans is working miracles developing and shipping new products in record time.? Hans goes even further to announce future inventory replacement dates to provide an opportunity for everyone attempt to order.? If for what ever reason you were not able to place an order accept it and try again next time.? If you were lucky enough to place an order, wait for it to arrive and enjoy it quietly.?
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Yes, I guess you are right. Some folks will always be greedy. It is a shame though.
They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one
They did have a shot, same as everyone else who tried to order. Sooner or later the kits run out, and no matter how many hams got one, or more, the guy who didn't will cry foul, and scream "unfair!". It's just how the world works, and any attempt to rig the system will fail to provide "fairness". If you limit the number of kits people will just go right back in and try ordering using another name, etc. I'd rather the multiple orders get in and out of the way and not clog up the server for other people. But that's just my not so humble opinion.
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Kirk < my1kwords@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
I didn't see it as a knock against Hans. He has gone over and above. My gripe is with those who purchased more than one for whatever reason. When a supply is so limited it just comes across as a bit greedy.? I was able to get one but so many who took the time to come to the site at the opening of the sale didn't. They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one.
Wow! I was hoping the fairness police would never invade this little corner of Ham Radio. I guess we're not safe anywhere in these times. Seriously guys, what has Hans done that's unfair? Other than offer a kit that many wish to buy. So, if it's not Hans, what have the buyers done that's unfair? They read the announcement, they did the old 160 thing, BIC, and along with many others, they took a shot at getting one or more of the limited number of kits. I couldn't care less if someone ordered 20 kits, they took the same chance as everyone else in the ordering process.
Hans went out of his way to make it as "fair" as humanly possible by announcing the sale date and time well in advance. The only way to make this unfair is to give certain people an advantage over others. That would not be "fair".
Sorry, I usually don't get in on these discussions, but I'm a bit fed up with complaints of unfairness everywhere I look lately. If you'll all excuse me now I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket. If I don't win I guess I'll just file a complaint about fairness with the lottery commission.
*you old 160 guys or SWLs know what BIC means, you gotta be there to work 'em*
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer - WM4B < mwbesemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go!
?
Mike
WM4B
?
?
Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package.
Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one
They did have a shot, same as everyone else who tried to order. Sooner or later the kits run out, and no matter how many hams got one, or more, the guy who didn't will cry foul, and scream "unfair!". It's just how the world works, and any attempt to rig the system will fail to provide "fairness". If you limit the number of kits people will just go right back in and try ordering using another name, etc. I'd rather the multiple orders get in and out of the way and not clog up the server for other people. But that's just my not so humble opinion.
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Kerry Kirk <my1kwords@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
I didn't see it as a knock against Hans. He has gone over and above. My gripe is with those who purchased more than one for whatever reason. When a supply is so limited it just comes across as a bit greedy.? I was able to get one but so many who took the time to come to the site at the opening of the sale didn't. They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one.
Wow! I was hoping the fairness police would never invade this little corner of Ham Radio. I guess we're not safe anywhere in these times. Seriously guys, what has Hans done that's unfair? Other than offer a kit that many wish to buy. So, if it's not Hans, what have the buyers done that's unfair? They read the announcement, they did the old 160 thing, BIC, and along with many others, they took a shot at getting one or more of the limited number of kits. I couldn't care less if someone ordered 20 kits, they took the same chance as everyone else in the ordering process.
Hans went out of his way to make it as "fair" as humanly possible by announcing the sale date and time well in advance. The only way to make this unfair is to give certain people an advantage over others. That would not be "fair".
Sorry, I usually don't get in on these discussions, but I'm a bit fed up with complaints of unfairness everywhere I look lately. If you'll all excuse me now I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket. If I don't win I guess I'll just file a complaint about fairness with the lottery commission.
*you old 160 guys or SWLs know what BIC means, you gotta be there to work 'em*
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer - WM4B < mwbesemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go!
?
Mike
WM4B
?
?
Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package.
Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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Re: What is on your work bench ?
Nice set up! I¡¯m relegated to the kitchen table! Takes forever to drag out test equip & tools¡. Then it¡¯s lunchtime ?
jim
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
I didn't see it as a knock against Hans. He has gone over and above. My gripe is with those who purchased more than one for whatever reason. When a supply is so limited it just comes across as a bit greedy.? I was able to get one but so many who took the time to come to the site at the opening of the sale didn't. They might have had a shot if everyone had limited themselves to one.
Wow! I was hoping the fairness police would never invade this little corner of Ham Radio. I guess we're not safe anywhere in these times. Seriously guys, what has Hans done that's unfair? Other than offer a kit that many wish to buy. So, if it's not Hans, what have the buyers done that's unfair? They read the announcement, they did the old 160 thing, BIC, and along with many others, they took a shot at getting one or more of the limited number of kits. I couldn't care less if someone ordered 20 kits, they took the same chance as everyone else in the ordering process.
Hans went out of his way to make it as "fair" as humanly possible by announcing the sale date and time well in advance. The only way to make this unfair is to give certain people an advantage over others. That would not be "fair".
Sorry, I usually don't get in on these discussions, but I'm a bit fed up with complaints of unfairness everywhere I look lately. If you'll all excuse me now I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket. If I don't win I guess I'll just file a complaint about fairness with the lottery commission.
*you old 160 guys or SWLs know what BIC means, you gotta be there to work 'em*
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer - WM4B < mwbesemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go!
?
Mike
WM4B
?
?
Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package.
Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Wow! I was hoping the fairness police would never invade this little corner of Ham Radio. I guess we're not safe anywhere in these times. Seriously guys, what has Hans done that's unfair? Other than offer a kit that many wish to buy. So, if it's not Hans, what have the buyers done that's unfair? They read the announcement, they did the old 160 thing, BIC, and along with many others, they took a shot at getting one or more of the limited number of kits. I couldn't care less if someone ordered 20 kits, they took the same chance as everyone else in the ordering process.
Hans went out of his way to make it as "fair" as humanly possible by announcing the sale date and time well in advance. The only way to make this unfair is to give certain people an advantage over others. That would not be "fair".
Sorry, I usually don't get in on these discussions, but I'm a bit fed up with complaints of unfairness everywhere I look lately. If you'll all excuse me now I'm going out to buy a lottery ticket. If I don't win I guess I'll just file a complaint about fairness with the lottery commission.
*you old 160 guys or SWLs know what BIC means, you gotta be there to work 'em*
Ward K7PO
Tonopah, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer - WM4B <mwbesemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2021 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go!
?
Mike
WM4B
?
?
Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package.
Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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Re: What is on your work bench ?
I've been moving my shack from an upstairs bedroom to a downstairs one and building new benches. I just finished putting together a Mercury IIIs amp and have several couplers to build. Rewired the new shack for dedicated 120 and 240 service. Added weather-head routing with surge protections into the shack. Six or eight other SDR radios on the shelf including several QRPLabs kits.
PJH, N7PH
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My last word to the Troll Can you share your certifications and reason for your "expert advice". Also I have not seen your vast cache of non drivel videos yet. Please remove yourself from this list.
Happy Holidays Mr Troll
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021, 3:56 PM Albert Tatlock's Greatest Hits - Vol 1 via <andyfoad= [email protected]> wrote:
Since when has posting personal opinion or FACTS been a crime ?
Only in YOUR minds it seems.
Welcome to democracy, Chinese style ?
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Re: Which Pi to use with QDX?
New PiZero2w as fast or faster than my?older 3b and for comparison I have 3b, 4, and new zero 2w. I would suggest you run Buster until Bulleye is fully vetted. I¡¯ve run both OS?and it took some doing to get Bulleye to work and even then I can¡¯t connect to my rigs at times, not sure why.?
That being said the Zero is quite the Pi given the fact Itnis only $15. I¡¯d suggest at that price that you should consider that after you?get it working w the qcx,?make it dedicated to run that?rig and your specific?application, not unless you love endless fiddling every time you make a change.
I have WSJTx broad cast the logged contact on my home network and my computer logging program picks it up and logs it for me on my main log. Pretty cool.?
Have fun!
Rich
On Sunday, December 19, 2021, 4:09 PM, N3MNT <bob@...> wrote: Although not the least expansive solution, the Pi400 minimizes the required pieces.
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On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2021 18:02:25 -03 Eike Lantzsch wrote: On Sonntag, 19. Dezember 2021 17:44:59 -03 VE3KCL wrote:
On most forums there is a Troll that sometimes uses a ridiculous
name
to hide their true identity. Their main purpose on your forum is to
get attention, start a conflict , or insult someone, but not to
contribute to the forum in a meaningful or friendly way. If a Troll
is outed they often return with another name, that again obscures
their identity. The best thing you can do to discourage a Troll is
ignore their posts. Dave VE3KCL "grumpy old men were sometimes nicknamed "Albert Tatlock"
[1]
and sometimes they are amusing ...
Don't let your spirits be weared down.
73 de Eike ZP6CGE Where is the troll when one needs him(it?) it ought to be: "be worn down". :-/
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Re: QDX: Anyone else having a problem with image rejection?
#qdx
Johan-
Thank you for the reply, very helpful!
I can't duplicate it, but the image problem seemed *possibly* intermittent once today.
Right now the QDX is happily running solar-powered remote to the shack, I'll do more testing later.
73
Andy
WM8Q
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Re: YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get
Well, as Hans pointed out, it doesn¡¯t make a lot of sense to have multiple QDXs since it¡¯s a multi-band rig.? I¡¯m hoping those who ordered multiples were simply ordering for others or perhaps gifting them.? I¡¯m pretty sure I can find room to put my QDX in my camping go-kit; just need to remember to grab it before I go! ? Mike WM4B ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kerry Kirk
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [QRPLabs] YouTuber who wants to review one but impossible to get ? Agreed though it would mean more work on what sounds like an already overworked small company.? I don't understand buying multiples when so many want a unit and there are so few available.? Reminds me of the toilet paper shortage last year and the images of people with shipping carts stacked high as others were struggling to find a single package. Think it would be a fairer system if not already implemented.. if there were one per customer,
interesting to see how many ordered more than one?
I remembered the sale three hours too late :(
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Re: QDX: Anyone else having a problem with image rejection?
#qdx
Hi Evan-
Thanks for the reply.... right after building it, my scan looked great. Today, not so.
I also noticed that the image rejection looked like it went to more normal after I unplugged the USB and re-connected it.... but no power cycle.
No explanation?for that (yet).
73 Andy WM8Q
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 2:12 PM Evan Hand < elhandjr@...> wrote: Hello Andy,
I am not aware of an adjustment for image rejection, as that is in the software unlike in the QCX line of transceivers where it is analog.??
What is the Audio Sweep showing as far as image rejection?? When I do my scans with a dummy load connected I am seeing better than 60db rejection.
I would also make sure you are on the latest version of firmware 1_02.
One last point, I remember one of the changes of version 1 to version 2 of the hardware was adding bias resistors to the BPF switch to help with strong signal rejection.? Here is the message link:
/g/QRPLabs/message/74675
73
Evan
AC9TU
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Re: Which Pi to use with QDX?
Although not the least expansive solution, the Pi400 minimizes the required pieces.
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John
N3MNT
Jim
Mike Besemer - WM4B