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Re: New Chat: QMX: SSB Receiving ? LSB ? #chat-notice

 

Hi Matt,
the?switching LSB/USB seems to work only via CAT.
/g/QRPLabs/message/116292
I suppose it is on the Hans's ASAP table to solve.
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73 Bojan S53DZ


New Chat: QMX: SSB Receiving ? LSB ? #chat-notice

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Hi,
i?ve got a good working QMX , 80m-20m. CW wonderful, digimodi perfect :).

Receiving HAM Stations in SSB on the 20m band works good. I can listen to the conversation. But trying to do that on the low bands, i can?t really listen. Wrong Sideband. Even trying to change the Sideband in? the system config menue Sideband into lsb doesn?t work. Does anybody have any idea ? or is this part not realized yet ?
There is no change, when I try to change the sideband in the menue.

Is there a timetable, when the transmitting part in SSB will be implemented ?

73 de Matt, DL1SER

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Re: QMX 10-20m LPF0 problem?

 

Hi again! And thanks Tobias! I agree with Jo. I think that the QMX:s we have probably are "fundamentally right" which can be proven by working a lot of QSO:s and enjoy. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. That doesn't mean that we can't be nerdy and go down in the nitty-gritty details of every millwatt and dB. That's part of the fun and a learning experience for sure. My next move will be to tamper with my tinySA and learn how to measure the spectrum at the 30M band, which I added instead of 11M. Good luck!


Re: QMX 10-20m LPF0 problem?

 

Hi Tobias and thanks for chipping in! I created this topic hoping to get an answer to the same question you have; something fundamental wrong // or not? My sweeps and numbers looks very similar to yours. There seems to be some consistancy among us (three) with a general pattern of power output profile, limitations in sideband rejection on 15M&17M (around 2000Hz), and both 20m and 10m sensitivity not being the best compared to the other bands available. Given this pattern, my assumption is that it concerns the design more than a problem in a build. As Anders mentioned, toroid winding style and component variability plays a part too. My conclusion after seeing both yours and Anders feedback; I think my QMX is working fine in all practical manners and I need to stop looking at the diagnostics, and start making QSOs.?

PS; for some reason I can't see your images attached.

73s
Jo


Re: Next QMX Firmware Version - What to Expect?

 

Hi Jim

I do my best OM, I really work long hours at all this - but there are a lot of things on; The priorities for firmware are currently fixing the CW keying glitches, and adding AGC. If I had a date, I'd already have the firmware ready, and I'd already have released it... so all I can say is "as soon as possible" though I understand that is not an ideal answer, sorry.?

73 Hans G0UPL



On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:20?PM Jim Bennett / K7TXA via <w6jhb=[email protected]> wrote:
Hans - can you give us a hint as to what changes will be coming with the next version of the QMX firmware? And maybe a target date? :-)
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Jim / K7TXA
Eagle, ID

SKCC 10447C
BUG 301


Re: QDX Highband , receive range

 

Thanks for your replys.?
The only thing inactually touched was swapping 11m for 30m in the config. Rx is fine downnton40m. Will checknlower band edge of 20m :-) and report :-)


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

 

You've swapped the encoders and the problem persists.?

There is no firmware issue that could cause?this.?

The conclusion must be, some kind of connection issue somewhere between the microcontroller pins and the rotary encoder pins. The most likely is an intermittent connection due to a soldering problem at the 2x4-pin connector between the main board and the controls board. Most likely - but not the ONLY possibility.?

73 Hans G0UPL



On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 7:38?AM Paul - AI7JR <paul.hanchett@...> wrote:

Have you done a Factory Reset yet? What version of firmware are you running?

(If you have done the reset, don't think there's any point in doing it again...)

Paul

On 1/7/24 18:49, k9pz wrote:
The original problem has resurfaced. It did not move with the encoders. I put the left encoder in place of the right, and right in place of the left. After this, initially turning the left encoder either direction was unresponsive. This behavior was duplicated in the diagnostic terminal.

After a power cycle the original problem of the left encoder only increasing volume has resurfaced, the diagnostic terminal agrees, and this is after swapping encoders.
No new encoders, just the two that came with the kit. All other buttons and encoder functions work fine. Great rx and tx.

73 k9pz


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

 

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Have you done a Factory Reset yet? What version of firmware are you running?

(If you have done the reset, don't think there's any point in doing it again...)

Paul

On 1/7/24 18:49, k9pz wrote:

The original problem has resurfaced. It did not move with the encoders. I put the left encoder in place of the right, and right in place of the left. After this, initially turning the left encoder either direction was unresponsive. This behavior was duplicated in the diagnostic terminal.

After a power cycle the original problem of the left encoder only increasing volume has resurfaced, the diagnostic terminal agrees, and this is after swapping encoders.
No new encoders, just the two that came with the kit. All other buttons and encoder functions work fine. Great rx and tx.

73 k9pz


Re: QMX 10-20m LPF0 problem?

 

Hi Guys!

This is my first post in this forum, and my fresh QMX 10-20m build seems to roughly follow the pattern that are posted here.

QMX high band rev 2
RWTST transformer
12V
1_00_014
50¦¸ 5W QRP dummy load

Audio sweep:

20M -14dB
17M -5dB
15M -7dB
12M -9dB
11M -14dB
10M -15dB

Sideband rejection looks a bit odd on 15 and 17m with a peaks around 1.9 - 2.1 KHz. See pictures



RF filter sweep:

20M -14dB (best -12dB at >15 - <17 MHz)
17M -5dB
15M -7dB
12M -9dB
11M -13dB
10M -13dB

Actually the 20m RF filter sweep looks very different to the one in the manual.
All the others look ok, though I am on the high end of the filter curve. Which is still ok I guess.

Image sweep:

20M -28.6dB
17M -32.1dB
15M -36.6dB
12M -34.0dB
11M -24.2dB
10M -33.0dB

So 20M (and 11M) maybe not super great.


Power output @12V - As reported by the Diagnostics menu

20M 3.5W
17M 4.4W
15M 5.8W
12M 2.9W
11M 3.5W
10M 3.7W

So what do you reckon?
Is it alive and needs a bit of tweaking or something fundamental wrong?

I took screenshots of everything, so if somebody wants the full set to compare against, let me know.

-Tobias

P.S:: I could increase TX power on 20m a little bit by squeezing the BPF0 bottom toroid, but it is a bit fiddly.


Re: small fix: QDX manual_1_19.pdf

 

Hi Muhsin

Please see previous reply, I already explained this.?

What works best in practice and what is predicted by theory is not always exactly the same. Calculation, modeling, simulation is all one thing. But in the end final values often need to be tweaked by trial and error. This always needs to be remembered throughout the design process.?

In this case, rounding down or up is according to what we know works best from experience (during optimization of the assembled radios).?

73 Hans G0UPL


On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 12:03?AM Muhsin TA1MHS <muhsin.dogrular@...> wrote:

T37 AL is 1.5

on the table it takes 1.637 not consitent with the other Ls

73

muhsin TA1MHS


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

k9pz
 

The original problem has resurfaced. It did not move with the encoders. I put the left encoder in place of the right, and right in place of the left. After this, initially turning the left encoder either direction was unresponsive. This behavior was duplicated in the diagnostic terminal.

After a power cycle the original problem of the left encoder only increasing volume has resurfaced, the diagnostic terminal agrees, and this is after swapping encoders.
No new encoders, just the two that came with the kit. All other buttons and encoder functions work fine. Great rx and tx.

73 k9pz


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

 

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Hmmm... That it moves with the encoder, is rather incriminating of the encoder...

Did you say that you've replaced the encoder once?

You might check that the switches on the encoder are opening and closing properly.

Paul

On 1/7/24 18:19, k9pz wrote:
Paul - the CCW seems to have resolved itsself. Maybe I was seeing ghosts.

I swapped the encoders and as before the right side functions correctly. Now turning the left side is unresponsive in either direction. Pushing down on it works as before, this was verified in the terminal diagnostics. There are no shorts to the encoder body.
I am at a loss now.
Seems as Nino stated a firmware or controls board issue. At least i can't accidently crank the volume too high now.

I will give it another very fine look over. Odd that the problem changed slightly by swapping the encoders.

Cest la vie

73 k9pz
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Paul -- AI7JR


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

k9pz
 

Paul - the CCW seems to have resolved itsself. Maybe I was seeing ghosts.

I swapped the encoders and as before the right side functions correctly. Now turning the left side is unresponsive in either direction. Pushing down on it works as before, this was verified in the terminal diagnostics. There are no shorts to the encoder body.
I am at a loss now.
Seems as Nino stated a firmware or controls board issue. At least i can't accidently crank the volume too high now.

I will give it another very fine look over. Odd that the problem changed slightly by swapping the encoders.

Cest la vie

73 k9pz


Re: Tune lock?

 

Put the keyer into straight mode.? Then simply hold down the paddle.


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

 

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Hi Nino, Brandon--

Some random responses on my part:

  • I too have noticed that, when the frequency goes too far up or down, it gets "stuck" and requires a power cycle. Reported to Hans.
  • SSB hasn't been implemented yet, so it might not honor the sideband. BUT I know that I've been able to set the sideband for LSB on 80 (version 12 firmware)... So there may be something else at play, here.
  • Haven't noticed what you (Brandon) reported about first CCW click, but maybe?
Nino-- Given that the right encoder works well for "everyone" else, it's hard to see how that could be a firmware problem...

There are several functions attached to the right encoder. Turning it should change the frequency. Clicking the button should invoke rate or select message. Do any of those functions work?

Looks to me like the MPU is sensing which switch is activated by sensing the resistance of the connection (JP302-6 to ground). You don't mention how the right hand encoder is malfunctioning--I'd suggest checking for solder bridges between pins on JP302. Consider that the problem with the right hand button and the right hand encoder might be somehow connected...

Wishing you luck!

73, Paul -- AI7JR

On 1/7/24 15:52, tautog54 wrote:
Hi Brandon,

Today I replaced the right encoder and the situation is still the same. In my opinion, it is not a hardware problem. Perhaps there should be something wrong with the board or the firmware. I'm at a dead point then I prefer to leave it until I know more or maybe a new firmware release will solve the problem.

Best 73 de I1MDQ Nino
-- 
Paul -- AI7JR


Re: Suspected faulty rotary encoder QMX Rev 2 80-20m kit build

 

Hi Brandon,

Today I replaced the right encoder and the situation is still the same. In my opinion, it is not a hardware problem. Perhaps there should be something wrong with the board or the firmware. I'm at a dead point then I prefer to leave it until I know more or maybe a new firmware release will solve the problem.

Best 73 de I1MDQ Nino


Re: Tune lock?

 

Version 12 of what?
72 / 73,
Bill, N4QA/4 in OKI; previously WB4HIO and, before that, WN4BJC


Tune lock?

 

Using version 12.
Is there a way to lock into transmit so I can measure output and/or activate a QRP tuner?
Thanks and ¡®73
Jim WX8J


Re: QMX- High Power Output at 12 Volts?

 

Sounds good to me, too!
JZ

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024, 4:56?PM Sandy <mac3iii@...> wrote:

Hey Mike - I wouldn't worry too much about those readings - A lot of people have had similar numbers, see here. Also check out the It should be banned series of messages by searching the word "banned" in the search box. TLDR: I got on my first use of RWTST:

This is the third QMX I have built, each design improvement outperforming the last. Now on first powerup and testing RWTST on 12.00 volts I get the following output into a dummy load as per putty diagnostics:

40 meters 5.3 watts
30 meters 4.9 watts
20 meters 7.0 watts (amps went from .093 resting to 1.01 transmit)
80 meters 5.6 watts
60 meters 6.1 watts?

Per Hans advice I slightly spread the coils on L513 and got 20 meters down to between 6 and 7 watts. I have had over a thousand POTA contacts using this rig without problems.

Sandy KB3EOF


Re: QMX- High Power Output at 12 Volts?

 

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Hey Mike - I wouldn't worry too much about those readings - A lot of people have had similar numbers, see here. Also check out the It should be banned series of messages by searching the word "banned" in the search box. TLDR: I got on my first use of RWTST:

This is the third QMX I have built, each design improvement outperforming the last. Now on first powerup and testing RWTST on 12.00 volts I get the following output into a dummy load as per putty diagnostics:

40 meters 5.3 watts
30 meters 4.9 watts
20 meters 7.0 watts (amps went from .093 resting to 1.01 transmit)
80 meters 5.6 watts
60 meters 6.1 watts?

Per Hans advice I slightly spread the coils on L513 and got 20 meters down to between 6 and 7 watts. I have had over a thousand POTA contacts using this rig without problems.

Sandy KB3EOF