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Re: QRSS grabber network?


Stephen Farthing
 

Hi Clayton,

I think this is really an interesting thing to try and achieve. I am not on the air much now due to a shack/antenna/life reorganization but when i was it was always an exercise in patience to wait for a grabber to pick my signals up. Hans and i have sold well over 400 beacon kits now and I often wonder how many people built them only to give up when they had no "grabs"....someone once said that QRSS is a bit like fly fishing...it takes a lot of skill and patience but ?once you get a DX grab its all very worth while....

73s Steve


On 7 June 2011 12:21, Clayton G <clayton@...> wrote:
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Hello Knights!
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I didn't get much response to my email last month, but I'll try another tact before giving up.
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For a while I've had an idea of developing a server system with remote 'thin' receivers around the world. These receivers would send in their sample data of a narrow QRSS band to the server, which would then generate a worldwide view of the signals being grabbed. Data could also be logged and overlays generated etc etc - it is kind of like the WSPR net but for visual MEPTs. At minimum it would allow for a worldwide instant display of activity with the ability to roll back in time.
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Anyway I implemented the 'thin' receiver for a design contest, and got among the winners. Subsequently the magazine (Circuit Cellar) has asked if I'd like to turn my project into a published article. As I'd get paid for this, it could be a source of seed funds to make the QRSS network a reality.
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The real question though is do the Knights think such a network is of value, or do you find the aggregators and ad-hock grabbers sufficient? Personally I found it inadequate when I was running my MEPT, but this is in part due to the solar power and low duty cycle of my MEPT - I had to watch at just the right time to see it.
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The other benefit of the network is the ability to expand the grabber base. As the receivers will be cheap (I think the component cost can be as little as $50) and not require a PC or anything (only a power source, antenna and internet connection) more operators should be able to install them.
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What do you think???
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Clayton
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----- Original Message -----
From: Clayton G
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 10:52 AM
Subject: QRSS grabber receiver & server project

I recently entered a design project with a QRSS application. I was luck to get amount the winners with my entry. See:


The project was a small (and hence cheap) receiver (a SDR) and DSP processor + ethernet interface. The idea is that with these receivers doted around the world sending their small bandwidth of sample data to a central server we could get a central webpage to a worldwide network of grabber receivers (much like the WSPR network manages the WSPR spots). My project was the receiver end of the project only - the server itself was beyond the scope. The receiver used a cheap GPS module to calibrate its internal?oscillator?and hence obtain frequency accuracy (with the central server doing the necessary calculations and managing this).

The hope was to be able to build the receiver for < $100, with the only need beyond that being the power supply, antenna, and ethernet connection (ie no radio or computer required). I got the basics working, but there is still plenty of scope to improve the receiver (such as reduction of the amount of data transferred - currently it would use about 3.5GB/month), sort out the receiver design PCB etc, and to get the server operating to accept the data and manage the receivers.

Anyway, the details are in the entry documents on the website above. I would love this project to move beyond just this contest entry. Is anyone interested in being part of such a project. The main need at present is someone to take on the server side, and a suitable place to host it; although receiver work is also required. Anyone interested? I'm a bit tied up with other project at present, but can do some more work on the receiver.

Regards
Clayton
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