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“My” PSC 31 has 50’ of chain and 150’ of rode. ?I was wondering how best to deal with the rode in order for it to go down the hawse pipe in preparation for the gypsy to take up the chain. ?I doubt I would anchor often in more than 50’, so I suppose I would manually take up the rode while guiding it down the pipe until I could get the chain started. ?Another option would be to get 200’ of chain.
I welcome and thank you for your feedback.
Stu
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Stu, I use the rule of thumb “50 ft plus double the depth”. ?(Usually). ?200 ft of chain is heavy and expensive.? I compromised and installed 120 ft of chain and 50 ft of rode.? Along with a Mantus bridle. ?- no regrets so far. ? Steve s/v Rafiki
“My” PSC 31 has 50’ of chain and 150’ of rode.? I was wondering how best to deal with the rode in order for it to go down the hawse pipe in preparation for the gypsy to take up the chain.? I doubt I would anchor often in more than 50’, so I suppose I would manually take up the rode while guiding it down the pipe until I could get the chain started.? Another option would be to get 200’ of chain.
I welcome and thank you for your feedback.
Stu
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Hi Stu,
Buy more chain. I carry 160ft of 5/16 plus 30ft of line at the end on my 31. I anchor 50-100 days per year and rarely use all the chain except in P-town this summer. For the most part, the chain falls in easily, but if I have more than 100ft out I bring a long screwdriver forward when retrieving.? I also carry 150ft of line on the port side for emergency but have never used it in 33 years except as a dock line in Panama Canal. And a stern anchor with 10ft chain and 150ft rose which I rarely use. Marlena? Rum & Tonic PS-31 #10
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On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:35 AM, SSTECKER <stustecker@...> wrote:
?“My” PSC 31 has 50’ of chain and 150’ of rode. ?I was wondering how best to deal with the rode in order for it to go down the hawse pipe in preparation for the gypsy to take up the chain. ?I doubt I would anchor often in more than 50’, so I suppose I would manually take up the rode while guiding it down the pipe until I could get the chain started. ?Another option would be to get 200’ of chain.
I welcome and thank you for your feedback.
Stu
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BTW the PS 31 is not a Creelock model though it was designed by Bill Creelock. The Creelock models are canoe sterns?
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On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Rum & Tonic via groups.io <captmarlena@...> wrote:
? Hi Stu,
Buy more chain. I carry 160ft of 5/16 plus 30ft of line at the end on my 31. I anchor 50-100 days per year and rarely use all the chain except in P-town this summer. For the most part, the chain falls in easily, but if I have more than 100ft out I bring a long screwdriver forward when retrieving.? I also carry 150ft of line on the port side for emergency but have never used it in 33 years except as a dock line in Panama Canal. And a stern anchor with 10ft chain and 150ft rose which I rarely use. Marlena? Rum & Tonic PS-31 #10 On Sep 17, 2021, at 8:35 AM, SSTECKER <stustecker@...> wrote:
?“My” PSC 31 has 50’ of chain and 150’ of rode. ?I was wondering how best to deal with the rode in order for it to go down the hawse pipe in preparation for the gypsy to take up the chain. ?I doubt I would anchor often in more than 50’, so I suppose I would manually take up the rode while guiding it down the pipe until I could get the chain started. ?Another option would be to get 200’ of chain.
I welcome and thank you for your feedback.
Stu
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Sorry but (I believe ) you are mistaken, It is a Crealock design, granted many of his designs had canoe sterns, but the PSC 31 and the PSC Dana are both his designs.
Daryl
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Stu,
Is your gypsy a chain / rode gypsy? And do you have the rope spliced directly to the chain, if so your windlass should route it directly into the anchor locker.
Daryl
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Hi Daryl,
I wrote that the 31 IS a Crealock design not a Crealock model. The Crealock models are canoe sterns. I knew Bill and he was a great guy and very proud of his designs. The 40, though a canoe and Crealock design is called a PS.I suspect because of the wide canoe but not positive on that.
M
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On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Daryl Clark <dlclark@...> wrote:
?Sorry but you are mistaken, It is a Crealock design, granted many of his designs had canoe sterns, but the PSC 31 and the OSC Dana are both his designs.
Daryl
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Hi Daryl,
Sorry to confuse the discussion
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On Sep 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Rum & Tonic via groups.io <captmarlena@...> wrote:
?Hi Daryl,
I wrote that the 31 IS a Crealock design not a Crealock model. The Crealock models are canoe sterns. I knew Bill and he was a great guy and very proud of his designs. The 40, though a canoe and Crealock design is called a PS.I suspect because of the wide canoe but not positive on that.
M
On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Daryl Clark <dlclark@...> wrote:
?Sorry but you are mistaken, It is a Crealock design, granted many of his designs had canoe sterns, but the PSC 31 and the OSC Dana are both his designs.
Daryl
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No problem, could certainly be done subtleties I am not aware of. On my third PSC…
Daryl
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On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:37, Rum & Tonic via groups.io <captmarlena@...> wrote:
?Hi Daryl,
Sorry to confuse the discussion
On Sep 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Rum & Tonic via groups.io <captmarlena@...> wrote:
?Hi Daryl,
I wrote that the 31 IS a Crealock design not a Crealock model. The Crealock models are canoe sterns. I knew Bill and he was a great guy and very proud of his designs. The 40, though a canoe and Crealock design is called a PS.I suspect because of the wide canoe but not positive on that.
M
On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Daryl Clark <dlclark@...> wrote: ?Sorry but you are mistaken, It is a Crealock design, granted many of his designs had canoe sterns, but the PSC 31 and the OSC Dana are both his designs.
Daryl
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Not sure about type of gypsy. ?Looks like the rode would be loaded on the drum. ?Picture attached (from Polar Dream YouTube)
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If it is a Gypsy built for both rode and chain, there will be a gripping surface on the Gypsy for the rode. Try letting the chain out and slide the rode into the groove, the windlass should bring the rode in until it hits the chain; then immediately start bringing in the chain. Get the manual for the windlass out, if it is a combination ride/chain Gypsy it should also specify the size and type of rode it is compatible with.
Daryl
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Still on my first for 33 years?
M
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On Sep 17, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Daryl Clark <dlclark@...> wrote:
?No problem, could certainly be done subtleties I am not aware of. On my third PSC…
Daryl
On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:37, Rum & Tonic via groups.io <captmarlena@...> wrote:
?Hi Daryl,
Sorry to confuse the discussion
On Sep 17, 2021, at 11:20 AM, Rum & Tonic via groups.io <captmarlena@...> wrote: ?Hi Daryl,
I wrote that the 31 IS a Crealock design not a Crealock model. The Crealock models are canoe sterns. I knew Bill and he was a great guy and very proud of his designs. The 40, though a canoe and Crealock design is called a PS.I suspect because of the wide canoe but not positive on that.
M
On Sep 17, 2021, at 10:43 AM, Daryl Clark <dlclark@...> wrote: ?Sorry but you are mistaken, It is a Crealock design, granted many of his designs had canoe sterns, but the PSC 31 and the OSC Dana are both his designs.
Daryl
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That’s awesome info Daryl, thank you.
Stu
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REMEMBER SAFETY: any time you are working with the chain, never get your fingers between the chain and anything! It will take your fingers off in a heart beat! Let your windlass do the work! Also remember that you never use the windlass to take you to the anchor, you power up either with your engine or sail power.
Daryl
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Good advice for sure, a lesson I would not want to learn the hard way.? BTW, just got the Condition and Valuation Survey Report and it looks great so I am super excited and proceeding with purchase.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 3:12 PM Daryl Clark < dlclark@...> wrote: REMEMBER SAFETY: any time you are working with the chain, never get your fingers between the chain and anything! It will take your fingers off in a heart beat! Let your windlass do the work! Also remember that you never use the windlass to take you to the anchor, you power up either with your engine or sail power.
Daryl
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Congratulations! Be sure to create a PHOTO FOLDER and add your vessel info in the database. ? Daryl Clark
dlclark@...
(612) 910-0874
s/y Intuition – Pacific Seacraft 31 - 54 ?
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I think the PSC 31 and the Dana interiors were the departure, Crealock designed everything but the Interior on those models. So perhaps that is what you were referring to:?Joseph Artese, who designed the interior of the 90-foot sloop Whitefin, was commissioned to conceive the 31s layout.
Daryl
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