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Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations? ?Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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On Oct 18, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Peter S s/v Dawa II <scottpeterd@...> wrote:
? Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations? ?Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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Make me an offer, (before shipping)
I have one in storage I dont use from an S4, it's fine.
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:53?AM Peter S s/v Dawa II < scottpeterd@...> wrote: Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations?? Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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Had mine just rebuilt by G&H electric for $320 Regards
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On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:00 PM, Huntnphool via groups.io <Huntnphool@...> wrote:
? These guys are good.? On Oct 18, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Peter S s/v Dawa II <scottpeterd@...> wrote:
? Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations? ?Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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I am using the HiTorque Mini Starter () and would recommend it. The price is $245. Chris at HiTorque is great and will know what you need. You can read about it here:?
If you want the original Porsche (928-604-103-01, 928-604-103-04,?928-604-103-06?928604103AX) or Bosch (0986013880) equivilant you have a few additional options: 1. buy a used one from Jeff. I also have a used spare that is sitting in my garage. 2. Have your's rebuilt but a local rebuilder. Try a good search for Starter Alternator rebuilders. See if you can find a bosch certified rebuilder. These are very common services, and you should be able to find a local service center. Costs should be around $125-$200. Your starter will have all the worn items replaced, and it will be painted.? 3. Buy a rebuilt Bosch unit (028851500272). Here is one for ?and here for 4. Buy a new Bosch starter at a lower price. The Porsche branded starter is about $800. This is really just a Bosche?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:53?AM Peter S s/v Dawa II < scottpeterd@...> wrote: Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations?? Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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opps that last point got cut off,? 4? Buy a new Bosch starter at a lower price. The Porsche branded starter is about $800. This is really just a Bosch starter and you should be able to find one using this part number " 0 986 013 880".?
I am using the HiTorque Mini Starter () and would recommend it. The price is $245. Chris at HiTorque is great and will know what you need. You can read about it here:?
If you want the original Porsche (928-604-103-01, 928-604-103-04,?928-604-103-06?928604103AX) or Bosch (0986013880) equivilant you have a few additional options: 1. buy a used one from Jeff. I also have a used spare that is sitting in my garage. 2. Have your's rebuilt but a local rebuilder. Try a good search for Starter Alternator rebuilders. See if you can find a bosch certified rebuilder. These are very common services, and you should be able to find a local service center. Costs should be around $125-$200. Your starter will have all the worn items replaced, and it will be painted.? 3. Buy a rebuilt Bosch unit (028851500272). Here is one for ?and here for 4. Buy a new Bosch starter at a lower price. The Porsche branded starter is about $800. This is really just a Bosche?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:53?AM Peter S s/v Dawa II < scottpeterd@...> wrote: Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations?? Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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I'd bench test the starter before you get a new one.?
The Old Buggers are very sensitive to current flow (and also have a wire for cold start I think) that makes them prone to not starting.?
A simple solution if the starter bench tests OK is to add a relay in the system so the full 12V is applied directly to the starter.
If that's your issue, search rennlist for the way to wire in the relay....
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Use a relay where for what?
Why not just fix the current issue?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:44?PM amidlman < midlman@...> wrote: I'd bench test the starter before you get a new one.?
The Old Buggers are very sensitive to current flow (and also have a wire for cold start I think) that makes them prone to not starting.?
A simple solution if the starter bench tests OK is to add a relay in the system so the full 12V is applied directly to the starter.
If that's your issue, search rennlist for the way to wire in the relay....
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That requires replacing the FOE harness as its usually corroded
wires etc. and usually easier to add the relay to the system that
takes the 12v from the front post straight to the starter rather
than through the ignition .
On 10/18/2023 12:45 PM, Jeff Mohler
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Use a relay where for what?
Why not just fix the current issue?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at
12:44?PM amidlman < midlman@...>
wrote:
I'd
bench test the starter before you get a new one.?
The Old Buggers are very sensitive to current flow (and also
have a wire for cold start I think) that makes them prone to
not starting.?
A simple solution if the starter bench tests OK is to add a
relay in the system so the full 12V is applied directly to the
starter.
If that's your issue, search rennlist for the way to wire in
the relay....
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Here's a discussion on rennlist that discusses the issues...
First test is bench testing the starter.....then go through this
thread to see if it can help solve your issue.
On 10/18/2023 12:59 PM, amidlman wrote:
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That requires replacing the FOE harness as its usually corroded
wires etc. and usually easier to add the relay to the system
that takes the 12v from the front post straight to the starter
rather than through the ignition .
On 10/18/2023 12:45 PM, Jeff Mohler
wrote:
Use a relay where for what?
Why not just fix the current issue?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at
12:44?PM amidlman < midlman@...>
wrote:
I'd
bench test the starter before you get a new one.?
The Old Buggers are very sensitive to current flow (and also
have a wire for cold start I think) that makes them prone to
not starting.?
A simple solution if the starter bench tests OK is to add a
relay in the system so the full 12V is applied directly to
the starter.
If that's your issue, search rennlist for the way to wire in
the relay....
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Oh yea,
Get out the can of Deoxit and clean up all the
grounds/fuses/connections etc too.?
After all these years, bound to help.
On 10/18/2023 1:06 PM, amidlman wrote:
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Here's a discussion on rennlist that discusses the issues...
First test is bench testing the starter.....then go through
this thread to see if it can help solve your issue.
On 10/18/2023 12:59 PM, amidlman
wrote:
That requires replacing the FOE harness as its usually
corroded wires etc. and usually easier to add the relay to the
system that takes the 12v from the front post straight to the
starter rather than through the ignition .
On 10/18/2023 12:45 PM, Jeff Mohler
wrote:
Use a relay where for what?
Why not just fix the current issue?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at
12:44?PM amidlman < midlman@...>
wrote:
I'd
bench test the starter before you get a new one.?
The Old Buggers are very sensitive to current flow (and
also have a wire for cold start I think) that makes them
prone to not starting.?
A simple solution if the starter bench tests OK is to add
a relay in the system so the full 12V is applied directly
to the starter.
If that's your issue, search rennlist for the way to wire
in the relay....
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Easier isn't?correct. You fix the 40yr old problem, not add a future headache to it with more wires, more connections, and MORE corrosion to have to bugger about in the future. We make fun of cars that show up for sale with easy fixes all the time..just bybass?it, just use some other hot wire...etc. :)
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:59?PM amidlman < midlman@...> wrote:
That requires replacing the FOE harness as its usually corroded
wires etc. and usually easier to add the relay to the system that
takes the 12v from the front post straight to the starter rather
than through the ignition .
On 10/18/2023 12:45 PM, Jeff Mohler
wrote:
Use a relay where for what?
Why not just fix the current issue?
On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at
12:44?PM amidlman < midlman@...>
wrote:
I'd
bench test the starter before you get a new one.?
The Old Buggers are very sensitive to current flow (and also
have a wire for cold start I think) that makes them prone to
not starting.?
A simple solution if the starter bench tests OK is to add a
relay in the system so the full 12V is applied directly to the
starter.
If that's your issue, search rennlist for the way to wire in
the relay....
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I have one on a parts car (1979 euro) if you want it. I’m in portland. I’m in the process of pulling the manual drivetrain pieces and could pull it for you. No idea of condition; you’d want to clean and test, etc ?
Jon
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?has a rebuilt for $109.79 (I wouldn't ship the core back for $35.00)?
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Had mine just rebuilt by G&H electric for $320
Regards
Thomas Reynolds ? ?Lara Lambert
Developer ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? WBE
?Super Cedar Firestarters
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On Oct 18, 2023, at 12:00 PM, Huntnphool via groups.io <Huntnphool@...> wrote:
?These guys are good.?
On Oct 18, 2023, at 11:53 AM, Peter S s/v Dawa II <scottpeterd@...> wrote:
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Seems my starter has bit the dust. ?
Any recommendations? ?Not looking to pay $400+ from Roger
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I have found one at Autozone for $150. ?Minus a 20% discount.
I have to get the car moved to storage. ?Then next spring address it if any more issues arise.
The lower harness was replaced a hear and a half ago before moving it out to the west coast.
on the issue of a relay. ?The first thing I checked was the CE panel. ?No relay, but a jumper strap in the #18 socket. This rather surprised me. ?I like the idea of a relay between the solenoid and the ignition switch. ?Was frankly shocked it didnt have one.
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That was one of the first things Imdid when acquiring the car. ?And de-oxed the connections.
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Starter came in 2 days. ?Installed today and I am good to go.
The stupid thing is that I only have to pull it up my driveway and put it in storage.
Of course it couldnt have died next spring when I take the car out of storage
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Peter S s/v Dawa II
Michael Benno