I am a Bechtel descendant.
?My great-grandmother was Ora Bechtel (1873-1903) who married Irvin Quigg. ?Ora was dau of Andrew (1832-1896); son of Charles/Carl (1806-1881); son of William (c1781-1854); son of George (1744-1818); son of John George (c1717-1750). ?
I
would happy to share & exchange info with anyone else researching this Bechtel line. ?I am interested in several pieces of info: ?father of Lovina who married Andrew Bechtel (1853). ?Marriage date of Charles/Carl?Bechtel
to Isabella Jack. ?Birth date of William. ?Marriage date of William to Mary Richards (c1799). ?Death date of Mary (Richards) Bechtel. ?Marriage date of George to Hannah Yocum (c1764). ?Birth & death & marriage date for John George & Anna Maria (Klingman).
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Re: Bechtel - Kerlin connections
Judy.? Replying at least to let you know I read your post.? My angle would be the Kerlins, and why Frederick Sellers named a son Kerlin Baker Sellers.? There are some Kerlins in the Reading area that are not my family, as I have not been able yet to relate Frederick Sellers to anyone in my database. Yet that Kerlin name was important enuf to hand out as a given name.? I am stumped at present.? How far back can you go on Frederick's line? Can you find a Kerlin in his ancestors?
George Kirlin
Do any of you know anything about the following Bechtel/Kerlin connection.:
??????????????? The 1911 obituary of her brother Kerlin Baker Sellers implies that his sister, Elizabeth, is dead.?? Elisabeth (b. 1808) was married to George Bechtel based on the marriage record (m 10 Feb 1835 Stouchsburg, records of Christ Lutheran) and references to the estate of George Bechtel in the estate documents of Elizabeth and Kerlin’s father, Frederick Sellers.? At the time of the final distribution of Frederick’s estate after widow Ellen had died in 1873, a claim against the estate was made by Franklin Smith, administrator of the estate of George Bectle [sic], deceased, for board and room expense ($27.05) and interest ($6.34), presumably for the widow, Ellen, for her care after Frederick d. in 1864.???
? ???? I have been unable to identify any appropriate George Bechtel whose wife is named Elizabeth on the 1860 census.? Does anyone have this information?? What happened to George Bechtel?? If he died, did Elizabeth marry again?
??? My primary interest is in the Sellers family.
Judy Castle Stubbs
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Bechtel - Kerlin connections
Do any of you know anything about the following Bechtel/Kerlin connection.:
??????????????? The 1911 obituary of her brother Kerlin Baker Sellers implies that his sister, Elizabeth, is dead.?? Elisabeth (b. 1808) was married to George Bechtel based on the marriage record (m 10 Feb 1835 Stouchsburg, records of Christ Lutheran) and references to the estate of George Bechtel in the estate documents of Elizabeth and Kerlin’s father, Frederick Sellers.? At the time of the final distribution of Frederick’s estate after widow Ellen had died in 1873, a claim against the estate was made by Franklin Smith, administrator of the estate of George Bectle [sic], deceased, for board and room expense ($27.05) and interest ($6.34), presumably for the widow, Ellen, for her care after Frederick d. in 1864.???
? ???? I have been unable to identify any appropriate George Bechtel whose wife is named Elizabeth on the 1860 census.? Does anyone have this information?? What happened to George Bechtel?? If he died, did Elizabeth marry again?
??? My primary interest is in the Sellers family.
Judy Castle Stubbs
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Re: Bechtel reply to George Kirlin
Diana and Paul,? Thank you for the update.? I want to look at the original records in German for Boos marriages of JB to see if spellings are identical and check the sponsors.? Jacob?1 and Jacob 3 could be father and son?? Am going to check the tax and deed records in Exeter and surrounding townships.??
In the Baptism records for Schwarzwald are the records of the twins Anna Marie Bechtel and Sarah Bechtel both daus. of Jacob Bechtel and _______, bap. 13 April 1799; the next day, 14 April 1799, Sarah Gehring, dau. of Samuel, was baptized.? April 13, 1799 was a Saturday and April 14th a Sunday.
Sponsor for Anna Marie Bechtel was Susanna Christian, sponsor for Sarah Bechtel was Susannah Bechtel.? Sponsors for Sarah Gehring were the parents.
What can be gleaned from these listings, if anything?
1. Noting?that the 1790 JB marriage was to Barbara Christian.? Anne Marie and Sarah Bechtel were born 9 years later; IS this mother Barbara Christian because Susanna Christian was the sponsor? Susannah Bechtel was Sarah's sponsor.? Was she a sister to Jacob?
These entries are from the translated, printed edition.? Is 14 April 1799 for Sarah Gehring baptism a typo? Should it be 13 April?? Or should the 13 April baptisms be 14 April?? Viewing the original will help. Boos baptised the 2 daughters on Saturday,; and did 3 baptisms on Sunday but the Sunday families do not look related.? Were the Bechtel and Gehring baptisms all within a related family?? Because preachers were travelling, scarce and only visited once every couple months, I know my St. Gabriel Kerlin and extended family baptisms were all congregated together and were done 4-7 baptisms all at once.
2. Were Sarah Gehring, born 18 Dec. 1798, and Maria Gehring, marrying Jacob Bechtel about 2 years later, 12/21/1800, sisters???? That could be, maybe 14 years between births of the 2 sisters, which is possible...but the poor mother, unless there was more than one mother...
3. I have documentation that Jacob Bechtel, named "son-in-law of Samuel Kerlin",? was named the Admin. for the estate of Samuel Kerlin, Exeter, died in 1834.? Is Maria Gehring really Maria Kerlin[g], a daughter of Samuel?? I would need to find a birth/baptism for Maria Gehring about 1780-1785 or so, hopefully in Exeter, but maybe in Douglass?
I am leaving to find Boos original German records in the Schwarzwald records.
George
On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 8:04?AM Diana Quinones < audianaq@...> wrote:
Rev Boos married 3 different Jacob? Bechtels when he pastored:
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Elizabetha Christ on 9/30/1783
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Barbara Christian on 6/29/1790
Jacob Bechtel In Exeter,? m Maria Gehrling on 12/21/1800.
Hard to tell if he married 3 times!
Source: Berks Co Pa Marriages 1730-1800, vol 1,? pub 1/1986, H.P. Publishing, Reading.
Maybe sponsors of the children you listed will help figure the correct wife!
Diana,
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HERRING Family Photograph
I
have an old postcard photograph of Carl HERRING which was taken in 1918 at the
F. A. Mack & Bro. Studio in Pottsville, PA. Carl appears to be about 1 year
old at the time the photograph was taken. Based on limited research I was able
to gather the following information regarding Carl and his family:
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Carl
Albert HERRING was b. 15 Dec 1917 in Wayne Township, Schuylkill Co., PA to
parents Andrew Jackson HERRING (1877-1968) and Hannah Rebecca FEHR (1880-1953)
who were married 14 Feb 1903 in Schuylkill Co., PA.? Carl was one of three children born to this
couple including Paul Jonathan; Grace Irene; and Carl Albert HERRING, all born
between 1903 and 1917.? It appears that
Carl’s father was married previously and had a daughter Ethel M. HERRING
(1901-1938).? Carl married Naomi Lorraine
REED (1920-1988) on 11 Mar 1939 in Schuylkill Co., PA and they had four
children, two boys and two girls.
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Carl
died 11 May 2000 in Pottsville, PA and is buried in the Schuylkill Memorial
Park Cemetery in North Manheim Township, Schuylkill Co., PA.? Carl’s obituary lists his surviving family
members including two sons, Guy HERRING of Allentown, PA and Dale HERRING of
Pine Grove, PA, and two daughters Shirley HIRST of Newark, DE and Faye ANDERSON
of Friedensburg, PA.
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I
am hoping to locate someone from this family so that the photograph can be returned
to the care of family.? If you are a
member of this HERRING Family or know someone who might be, please contact me.
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Thanks,
Shelley
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Re: Bechtel reply to George Kirlin
You are welcome Paul Whitehouse!
1802 Will of Michael Christ, Exeter, differentiates 2 diff Jacob Bechtel’s, too:
Jacob, son of Peter Bechtel, married his daughter Maria Barbara Christ
Jacob, son of Jacob Bechtel, m his daughter Elizabeth Christ
They were all 4 still living when their mother Susanna (nee Bishop) Christ wrote her will in 5/1823, probated 4/1825, as she bequeathed each above couple 1 pound, in addition to her other children.
So there are 3 Jacobs since the last one who married 1800 to Maria Gherling could not be one of the above first 2 Jacobs.
George Kirlin- do you have anything to add?
Diana in Ala
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On Aug 2, 2023, at 8:52 AM, Paul Whitehouse <whitehouse-family@...> wrote:
?Thanks heaps, Diana!
I didn’t have those marriages. And, seeing Barbara listed with surname CHRISTIAN and Elizabeth with CHRIST, we have another example of the name swap, or substitution, - remember from the will of Michael CHRIST that daughters Elizabeth and Barbara were both married to Jacob BECHTELs.
I sometimes get the feeling that various ministers didn’t want to use the name “CHRIST”, even though anglicized from KRIST, in any context apart from Christ himself and thought CHRISTIAN more appropriate for us mortals - the German for Christ is Christus, not KRIST. Hmmm …
Paul Whitehouse
On Aug 2, 2023, at 8:04 AM, Diana Quinones <audianaq@...> wrote:
Rev Boos married 3 different Jacob Bechtels when he pastored:
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Elizabetha Christ on 9/30/1783
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Barbara Christian on 6/29/1790
Jacob Bechtel In Exeter, m Maria Gehrling on 12/21/1800.
Hard to tell if he married 3 times!
Source: Berks Co Pa Marriages 1730-1800, vol 1, pub 1/1986, H.P. Publishing, Reading.
Maybe sponsors of the children you listed will help figure the correct wife!
Diana,
audianaq@...
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Re: Bechtel reply to George Kirlin
Thanks heaps, Diana!
I didn’t have those marriages. And, seeing Barbara listed with surname CHRISTIAN and Elizabeth with CHRIST, we have another example of the name swap, or substitution, - remember from the will of Michael CHRIST that daughters Elizabeth and Barbara were both married to Jacob BECHTELs.
I sometimes get the feeling that various ministers didn’t want to use the name “CHRIST”, even though anglicized from KRIST, in any context apart from Christ himself and thought CHRISTIAN more appropriate for us mortals - the German for Christ is Christus, not KRIST. Hmmm …
Paul Whitehouse
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On Aug 2, 2023, at 8:04 AM, Diana Quinones <audianaq@...> wrote:
Rev Boos married 3 different Jacob Bechtels when he pastored:
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Elizabetha Christ on 9/30/1783
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Barbara Christian on 6/29/1790
Jacob Bechtel In Exeter, m Maria Gehrling on 12/21/1800.
Hard to tell if he married 3 times!
Source: Berks Co Pa Marriages 1730-1800, vol 1, pub 1/1986, H.P. Publishing, Reading.
Maybe sponsors of the children you listed will help figure the correct wife!
Diana,
audianaq@...
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Re: Bechtel reply to George Kirlin
Rev Boos married 3 different Jacob Bechtels when he pastored:
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Elizabetha Christ on 9/30/1783
Jacob Bechtel in Exeter m Barbara Christian on 6/29/1790
Jacob Bechtel In Exeter, m Maria Gehrling on 12/21/1800.
Hard to tell if he married 3 times!
Source: Berks Co Pa Marriages 1730-1800, vol 1, pub 1/1986, H.P. Publishing, Reading.
Maybe sponsors of the children you listed will help figure the correct wife!
Diana,
audianaq@...
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George, I've copied your notes and questions from the thread about George Bechtel to this "Bechtel Kerlin" thread - we should keep them separate. And, please Group, if my comments here about my CHRIST family elicit any comments or questions, start a new thread - let's not mix them up with this. That would be much appreciated. In my copy of the printed Schwarzwald transcript (pub. Schuylkill Roots), I had the entries for Anna Maria and Sarah BECHTEL?circled because I suspect they were the daughters of Jacob BECHTEL and Maria Barbara CHRIST, and that the sponsors were the grandmothers. I believe that there were distinct CHRISTIAN and CHRIST families, but there are several entries, as here, where I think CHRISTIAN should be CHRIST. Michael CHRIST, of Exeter Twp, made his will 6 May 1802 and it was proved 20 Sep 1804. Among his children he listed, "..., Elizabeth the Wife of Jacob BECHTEL (of Jacob) ... Maria Barbara the Wife of Jacob BECHTEL (of Peter) ..." Indeed - too many Jacob BECHTELs! Michael's wife, Susannah (BISHOP) CHRIST, was still living. Trees on Ancestry are a good bit sketchy for the BECHTEL families so I'm not sure who Peter's wife was. Anna Maria and Sarah don't fit in the one family list I found for Jacob and Elizabeth. Again, I found only one reasonable list of Jacob and M. Barbara's children and it had 4 children with births given as "abt 1795", two of whom were Mary and Sarah, and no other children born until after 1800.? The entry for Sarah GEHRLING was the next one listed, but I had no thoughts about any connection. As seen in the will of Michael CHRIST, Barbara and Elizabeth (CHRIST) BECHTEL were both alive and married to other Jacob's two years after the marriage of another Jacob to Maria GEHRLING. I would say that Maria GEHRLING and Maria KERLIN certainly could be, even likely, the same person. If one dropped or slurred the "g" at the end of Gerhling, the two names would have sounded exactly the same. The voiced "G" and the un-voiced "K" were among the consonant swap that happened at the time - other examples being, "D" and "T", and "B" and "P". In fact, there was a marriage at Schwarzwald in which the grooms name bridged the above spellings: Jacob KEHRLING to Ester KUNTZMANN, of Cumru, 5 Apr 1806. Paul Whitehouse
In the Schwarzwald Reformed Church birth records I find the following:
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Anna Maria Bechtel, daughter of? Jacob and ______ b. 18 December 1798, Bapt. 13 April 1799 Sponsor:Susanna Bechtel
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Sarah Bechtel, daughter of Jacob and? _____________ b. 18 December 1798,, Bapt. 13 April 1799 Sponsor: Susanna Christian
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Sarah Gehrling, daughter of Samuel and? ______________ b.21 December 1798, Bapt 14 April 1799 Sponsors: parents
?18 Dec
In the Schwarzwald Reformed Church marriage records I find the following:
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Bechtel, Jacob, Maria Gehrling, Ex[eter],? 21 December 1800
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Lastly,
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5 June 1834, Register of Probate grants Letters of Administration for estate of Samuel Kerlin "To Jacob Bechtel, a son in law of Samuel Kerlin, late of Exeter Township, Berks County, Yeoman, deceased"
Also,? the Surety Bond for $500 is assigned to Jacob Bechtel, Samuel Beard [perhaps Bare], and William Bright, all of Reading.
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My questions are... working backwards:
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Can I assume we are talking about the same family here?? And if so...
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Who are the parents of Jacob Bechtel of Reading, who is the son in law of Samuel Kerlin, deceased 1834?
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Is the 1800 marriage record for Jacob Bechtel and Maria Gehrling, really a Maria Kerlin?
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Who is the wife of Jacob, and mother to the twins Anna Maria and Sarah Bechtel, born 18 December 1798?
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Any help is appreciated...? Thanks,
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George Kirlin
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Re: Bechtel reply to Sharon
Sorry George, I don't have these people in my file.
I would check with Judy Gilson - she is an expert on all the Bechtel lines.
If you don't have her email - contact me directly at snkgenealogy@...
Sharon
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Sharon and Connie,? ?and others...
I have some related Bechtel questions...
In the Schwarzwald Reformed Church birth records I find the following:
Anna Maria Bechtel, daughter of? Jacob and ______ b. 18 December 1798, Bapt. 13 April 1799 Sponsor:Susanna Bechtel
Sarah Bechtel, daughter of Jacob and? _____________ b. 18 December 1798,, Bapt. 13 April 1799 Sponsor: Susanna Christian
Sarah Gehrling, daughter of Samuel and? ______________ b.21 December 1798, Bapt 14 April 1799 Sponsors: parents
?18 Dec
In the Schwarzwald Reformed Church marriage records I find the following:
Bechtel, Jacob, Maria Gehrling, Ex[eter],? 21 December 1800
Lastly,
5 June 1834, Register of Probate grants Letters of Administration for estate of Samuel Kerlin "To Jacob Bechtel, a son in law of Samuel Kerlin, late of Exeter Township, Berks County, Yeoman, deceased"
Also,? the Surety Bond for $500 is assigned to Jacob Bechtel, Samuel Beard [perhaps Bare], and William Bright, all of Reading.
My questions are... working backwards:
Can I assume we are talking about the same family here?? And if so...
Who are the parents of Jacob Bechtel of Reading, who is the son in law of Samuel Kerlin, deceased 1834?
Is the 1800 marriage record for Jacob Bechtel and Maria Gehrling, really a Maria Kerlin?
Who is the wife of Jacob, and mother to the twins Anna Maria and Sarah Bechtel, born 18 December 1798?
Any help is appreciated...? Thanks,
George Kirlin
Hi Connie,
Please contact me directly at
snkgenealogy@....? I will be happy to share any Klingman & B echtel info I have collected.? ?
Sharon
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 11:17 AM
The dates for my George Bechtel are so close
for a 1744 marriage,
that I am sharing this for consideration.
Do you
have any dates for George?
? I have a Mary Klingman born to Jorg Philip Klingman b 1710.
So she would be born about the time of the marriage you mention and not
a possible wife.
In exploring my Bechtel
I have this couple and wonder if there was a second spouse and Kolb being the
second spouse.
Has anyone confirmation of Anna Maria Kolb m George Bechtel?
George Meyer Bechtel Bishop
1698–1759
BIRTH 1698 ? Mannheim, Rhineland-Palatinate, German States
DEATH 19 MAR 1759 ? Hereford, Philadelphia (now Berks), Pennsylvania, British America
Anna Maria Kolb
1719–1816
BIRTH 29. MAY 1719 ? Nordrhein-Westfalen, German States
DEATH JAN 13 1816 ? Bally, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States
Connie
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SMITH - SMALL - KNELL - HEISLER Family Photograph
I
have an old postcard photograph identified as Jay SMITH, son of Raleigh M.
SMITH which was likely taken some time between 1907 and 1912.? There is no studio or location identified and
the photograph is taken outdoors on a donkey with Jay likely just a couple
years old at the time.? Based on limited
research I was able to gather the following information regarding Jay and his
family:
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Jay
Monroe SMITH was b. 17 Jun 1909 in Pottsville, PA to Raleigh SMITH (b. 1887)
and Helen Pauline SMALL (1877-1943) who were married in Pottsville, PA on 5
Sept 1908. It appears that his parents divorced, and his mother married William
John KNELL (1886-1941) and Jay’s name was changed from SMITH to KNELL.? Jay married Marian H. HEISLER (1914-1999) on
25 Dec 1942 in Pottsville, PA and he died in Jan 1978 in Pottsville, PA and is
buried in the Charles Baber Cemetery in Pottsville, PA.
?
Raleigh
M. SMITH was b. 31 Mar 1886 in Dayton, OH or Schuylkill Co., PA to parents
Clarence E. SMITH (b. 1859 or 1860) and Anna J. HAYTH or HOYTH (b. 1861 or 1862).? Raleigh had one sibling, a sister Bertha J.
SMITH WAGNER b. 1896.? It appears that he
was only married the one time and only had the one child, Jay.
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I
am hoping to get this precious old photograph back to family and would
appreciate you contacting me if you are a member of this family or know someone
who might be.
?
Thanks,
Shelley
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Thank you for responding Connie!
On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 12:23?PM Connie Oberholser < philip4912@...> wrote:
I am sorry George. I have no info to prove a connection and
Don’t have them in my tree. Too many Jacob Bechtels.
Connie
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I am sorry George. I have no info to prove a connection and
Don’t have them in my tree. Too many Jacob Bechtels.
Connie
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Re: Bechtel reply to Sharon
Sharon and Connie,? ?and others...
I have some related Bechtel questions...
In the Schwarzwald Reformed Church birth records I find the following:
Anna Maria Bechtel, daughter of? Jacob and ______ b. 18 December 1798, Bapt. 13 April 1799 Sponsor:Susanna Bechtel
Sarah Bechtel, daughter of Jacob and? _____________ b. 18 December 1798,, Bapt. 13 April 1799 Sponsor: Susanna Christian
Sarah Gehrling, daughter of Samuel and? ______________ b.21 December 1798, Bapt 14 April 1799 Sponsors: parents ?18 Dec In the Schwarzwald Reformed Church marriage records I find the following:
Bechtel, Jacob, Maria Gehrling, Ex[eter],? 21 December 1800
Lastly,
5 June 1834, Register of Probate grants Letters of Administration for estate of Samuel Kerlin "To Jacob Bechtel, a son in law of Samuel Kerlin, late of Exeter Township, Berks County, Yeoman, deceased" Also,? the Surety Bond for $500 is assigned to Jacob Bechtel, Samuel Beard [perhaps Bare], and William Bright, all of Reading.
My questions are... working backwards:
Can I assume we are talking about the same family here?? And if so...
Who are the parents of Jacob Bechtel of Reading, who is the son in law of Samuel Kerlin, deceased 1834?
Is the 1800 marriage record for Jacob Bechtel and Maria Gehrling, really a Maria Kerlin?
Who is the wife of Jacob, and mother to the twins Anna Maria and Sarah Bechtel, born 18 December 1798?
Any help is appreciated...? Thanks,
George Kirlin
Hi Connie,
Please contact me directly at snkgenealogy@....? I will be happy to share any Klingman & B echtel info I have collected.? ?
Sharon
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 11:17 AM
The dates for my George Bechtel are so close
for a 1744 marriage,
that I am sharing this for consideration.
Do you
have any dates for George?
? I have a Mary Klingman born to Jorg Philip Klingman b 1710.
So she would be born about the time of the marriage you mention and not
a possible wife.
In exploring my Bechtel
I have this couple and wonder if there was a second spouse and Kolb being the
second spouse.
Has anyone confirmation of Anna Maria Kolb m George Bechtel?
George Meyer Bechtel Bishop
1698–1759
BIRTH 1698 ? Mannheim, Rhineland-Palatinate, German States
DEATH 19 MAR 1759 ? Hereford, Philadelphia (now Berks), Pennsylvania, British America
Anna Maria Kolb
1719–1816
BIRTH 29. MAY 1719 ? Nordrhein-Westfalen, German States
DEATH JAN 13 1816 ? Bally, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States
Connie
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Re: Bechtel reply to Sharon
Hi Connie,
Please contact me directly at snkgenealogy@....? I will be happy to share any Klingman & B echtel info I have collected.? ?
Sharon
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 11:17 AM
The dates for my George Bechtel are so close
for a 1744 marriage,
that I am sharing this for consideration.
Do you
have any dates for George?
? I have a Mary Klingman born to Jorg Philip Klingman b 1710.
So she would be born about the time of the marriage you mention and not
a possible wife.
In exploring my Bechtel
I have this couple and wonder if there was a second spouse and Kolb being the
second spouse.
Has anyone confirmation of Anna Maria Kolb m George Bechtel?
George Meyer Bechtel Bishop
1698–1759
BIRTH 1698 ? Mannheim, Rhineland-Palatinate, German States
DEATH 19 MAR 1759 ? Hereford, Philadelphia (now Berks), Pennsylvania, British America
Anna Maria Kolb
1719–1816
BIRTH 29. MAY 1719 ? Nordrhein-Westfalen, German States
DEATH JAN 13 1816 ? Bally, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States
Connie
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Lila,?
I have attached my chart for Anna Maria Klingman.? Maybe you will find a connection at some point.
Sharon
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [PABERKS] Klingmann
Thanks for writing. I'm sorry to say I don't have anything on your Anna Maria. She couldn't be the daughter of my immigrant family of 1732, because they had no daughter unless one was born after their arrival, who would be too young to marry in 1744.
I have scrutinized the Mannheim church records and don't think I have an Anna Maria. The immigrant's brother had a daughter Maria Appolonia who was born in 1734, again too young.?
There apparently were lots more Klingmann's than I guessed!
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I have an ancestor, Anna Maria "Mary" Klingman who married Johan George Bechtel about 1744 in what is now Berks Co., PA.
Do you have info on her or her family?
Sharon
I've been able to separate the two Klingmann families arriving on Ship Samuel in 1732. Is any Klingmann family found in Berks? Happy to correspond about Klingmann's (Clingman).
Thanks for any help!!
Lila Garne
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I am looking for a George Bechtel who married 1835 Stouchsburg Elizabeth Sellers, dau of Frederick Sellers.? In addition to the marriage record there are references to the estate of George Bechtel in the estate documents of Frederick Sellers.? At the time of the final distribution of his estate after wife Ellen had died, a claim against the estate was made by Franklin Smith, administrator of the estate of George Bectle [sic], deceased, for board and room expense ($27.05) and interest ($6.34), presumably for the widow, Ellen.? I have been unable to identify any appropriate George Bechtel whose wife is named Elizabeth on the 1860 census.
?? Any suggestions?
Judy Castle Stubbs
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The dates for my George Bechtel are so close for a 1744 marriage, that I am sharing this for consideration.
Do you have any dates for George?
? I have a Mary Klingman born to Jorg Philip Klingman b 1710.
So she would be born about the time of the marriage you mention and not a possible wife.
In exploring my Bechtel I have this couple and wonder if there was a second spouse and Kolb being the second spouse.
Has anyone confirmation of Anna Maria Kolb m George Bechtel?
George Meyer Bechtel Bishop
1698–1759
BIRTH 1698 ? Mannheim, Rhineland-Palatinate, German States
DEATH 19 MAR 1759 ? Hereford, Philadelphia (now Berks), Pennsylvania, British America
Anna Maria Kolb
1719–1816
BIRTH 29. MAY 1719 ? Nordrhein-Westfalen, German States
DEATH JAN 13 1816 ? Bally, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States
Connie
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Thanks for writing. I'm sorry to say I don't have anything on your Anna Maria. She couldn't be the daughter of my immigrant family of 1732, because they had no daughter unless one was born after their arrival, who would be too young to marry in 1744.
I have scrutinized the Mannheim church records and don't think I have an Anna Maria. The immigrant's brother had a daughter Maria Appolonia who was born in 1734, again too young.?
There apparently were lots more Klingmann's than I guessed!
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I have an ancestor, Anna Maria "Mary" Klingman who married Johan George Bechtel about 1744 in what is now Berks Co., PA.
Do you have info on her or her family?
Sharon
I've been able to separate the two Klingmann families arriving on Ship Samuel in 1732. Is any Klingmann family found in Berks? Happy to correspond about Klingmann's (Clingman).
Thanks for any help!!
Lila Garne
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I have an ancestor, Anna Maria "Mary" Klingman who married Johan George Bechtel about 1744 in what is now Berks Co., PA.
Do you have info on her or her family?
Sharon
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I've been able to separate the two Klingmann families arriving on Ship Samuel in 1732. Is any Klingmann family found in Berks? Happy to correspond about Klingmann's (Clingman).
Thanks for any help!!
Lila Garne
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Diana Quinones
