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Re: Ideas for Nonverbal Students

 

Thanks Diane; that's a possibility. It would take awhile for me to put that together (and receive permission to post student videos) - but perhaps something to look into! Please send me your contact info and maybe we can talk more?
Meanwhile, if anyone wants to connect for some music/movement examples (much easier to do live than in a written format!) please don't hesitate to reach out. :-)?
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Jenny
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Re: Ideas for Nonverbal Students

 

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Jenny,
Would you like to share your information on Paths to Technology under the O&M page??
Thanks,?
Diane

On Jan 3, 2025, at 12:50?PM, jennifer.pelletier via groups.io <jennifer.pelletier@...> wrote:

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Hi, Brandi,?
Yes, I would love to share with all! However, it's a little tricky to do that in this format/platform. I had presented on this topic at the SOMA conference and I think that sharing some ideas through a dialogue (Zoom, etc.) might be easiest (I have videos of music interventions as well, if interested). Maybe if those who are interested can shoot me an email and we'll figure out how/when to connect?
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Thanks for the interest. Music has so much potential for its use in O&M!
Jenny


Re: Ideas for Nonverbal Students

 

Hi, Brandi,?
Yes, I would love to share with all! However, it's a little tricky to do that in this format/platform. I had presented on this topic at the SOMA conference and I think that sharing some ideas through a dialogue (Zoom, etc.) might be easiest (I have videos of music interventions as well, if interested). Maybe if those who are interested can shoot me an email and we'll figure out how/when to connect?
?
Thanks for the interest. Music has so much potential for its use in O&M!
Jenny


Re: Ideas for Nonverbal Students

 

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I would love to hear some of your ideas in this area as well.? Would you be comfortable sharing to the group??

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Carly,

I have plenty of music, music/movement, and vibrotactile-related suggestions you may find helpful. Feel free to reach out via email if you'd like to connect on that!

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Jenny Pelletier, COMS and MT-BC (Music Therapist-Board Certified)


Re: Ideas for Nonverbal Students

 

Carly,
I have plenty of music, music/movement, and vibrotactile-related suggestions you may find helpful. Feel free to reach out via email if you'd like to connect on that!
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Jenny Pelletier, COMS and MT-BC (Music Therapist-Board Certified)
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Re: Audible pedestrian signals

 

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I happen to live in NYC, and I can tell you that the city disregards accessibility laws with total impunity because it is cheaper for them to pay nominal fines for non-compliance than to spend millions of dollars for engineering studies and new construction and hardware.? As I have discovered, even when audible signals are installed, they often do not work because they are not maintained.? Maintenance contracts are usually awarded to companies that either submit the lowest bid or else have politcal connections in high places but are not equipped to handle the job.? When I called 311 recently to complain that the audible pedestrian signals at the busy intersection outside my apartment building weren't working, I was told that it could take up to 45 days for a city inspector to get around to checking it out. This may be? all moot anyway, because it is a safe bet that there will be lax enforcement of federal accessibility laws once the new administration takes office. ?


Gerald


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On 12/8/2024 1:08 AM, Dona Sauerburger wrote:

From Gene Bourquin?

Although it is true, that municipalities are required to have a transition plan, nothing in current law requires anyone to install an APS except the requirements in the New PROWAG following the MUTCD. That is, when there is major changes at an intersection APSs must be put in at that location. But, in the absence of any major changes to the signaling system or surfaces nothing requires a Department of Transportation or Public Works to install an APS at a particular location.

Both in New York City, and in Chicago, federal courts have required that the crosswalks be made accessible. In New York, the court required a minimum of around 70% (if my memory is accurate) of crosswalks that are signalized to have APS, and upon review perhaps 100%. But these decisions are only effective within the jurisdiction of those federal courts.

I suggest as a first step, to take all of Dona's advice and contact the jurisdiction. I would also emphasize the aspects of the intersection that pose risks and dangerous to pedestrians, only because fear of lawsuits is a major compelling incentive for cities and counties to install the APS once they've been warned that they may be liable. Technically, the cost of installing the APS cannot be a factor unless it would cause the municipality to go bankrupt. The practical problem is that sometimes you've got to sue them to make it happen, best to use persuasion as your first line of offense along with logic

Gene

The Rev Dr Gene Bourquin, Deacon

New York City / Chiang Mai, Thailand

Orientation & Mobility Specialist?

Low Vision Therapist

ASL/English interpreter


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— Dona
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Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind

On Dec 7, 2024, at 9:46?PM, Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:

?Rosemary, it’s the law - our public rights of way MUST be made accessible.

I have had traffic engineers say that if they make it accessible for one, they’re going to have to do it for everybody and they will go bankrupt.

So I assure them that this is considered when they make their transition plan. They are required by law to have a plan to transition to make their facilities accessible, and they can set the budget and prioritize within that budget. This gives them control, so they don’t need to worry about going bankrupt.

But they need to know that it is required by law that they have this transition plan. You might gently ask about their transition plan and when they give you the “deer in the headlights“ look, explain to them that they are required to have a plan to comply with the law that says their facilities must be accessible.

There are a number of priority plans for installing APS’s that the engineers can use, giving points based on need and features of the crossing.

You might also mention in passing that jurisdictions have been taken to court and required to install APS‘s at all their intersections, and they can forestall this by having a transition plan that shows how much they are budgeting to make their facilities accessible by what date, and then FOLLOW THEIR PLAN!!

— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind

On Dec 7, 2024, at 6:44?PM, Rosemary Gribbin via groups.io <jumbiee9740@...> wrote:

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Hi everyone?
I am trying to have an APS installed for several of my clients.. however I was told they are too expensive. Does anyone know of a grant that will pay for this ? ?I understand that there are APS that are not as expensive but work just as well. Does anyone have any info on this? I would greatly appreciate it?
?
thank you?
Rosemary Gribbin. COMS
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Re: Audible pedestrian signals

 

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From Gene Bourquin?

Although it is true, that municipalities are required to have a transition plan, nothing in current law requires anyone to install an APS except the requirements in the New PROWAG following the MUTCD. That is, when there is major changes at an intersection APSs must be put in at that location. But, in the absence of any major changes to the signaling system or surfaces nothing requires a Department of Transportation or Public Works to install an APS at a particular location.

Both in New York City, and in Chicago, federal courts have required that the crosswalks be made accessible. In New York, the court required a minimum of around 70% (if my memory is accurate) of crosswalks that are signalized to have APS, and upon review perhaps 100%. But these decisions are only effective within the jurisdiction of those federal courts.

I suggest as a first step, to take all of Dona's advice and contact the jurisdiction. I would also emphasize the aspects of the intersection that pose risks and dangerous to pedestrians, only because fear of lawsuits is a major compelling incentive for cities and counties to install the APS once they've been warned that they may be liable. Technically, the cost of installing the APS cannot be a factor unless it would cause the municipality to go bankrupt. The practical problem is that sometimes you've got to sue them to make it happen, best to use persuasion as your first line of offense along with logic

Gene

The Rev Dr Gene Bourquin, Deacon

New York City / Chiang Mai, Thailand

Orientation & Mobility Specialist?

Low Vision Therapist

ASL/English interpreter


Like & Follow

Bourquin Consulting ?

(He/Him/His)


— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org

On Dec 7, 2024, at 9:46?PM, Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:

?Rosemary, it’s the law - our public rights of way MUST be made accessible.

I have had traffic engineers say that if they make it accessible for one, they’re going to have to do it for everybody and they will go bankrupt.

So I assure them that this is considered when they make their transition plan. They are required by law to have a plan to transition to make their facilities accessible, and they can set the budget and prioritize within that budget. This gives them control, so they don’t need to worry about going bankrupt.

But they need to know that it is required by law that they have this transition plan. You might gently ask about their transition plan and when they give you the “deer in the headlights“ look, explain to them that they are required to have a plan to comply with the law that says their facilities must be accessible.

There are a number of priority plans for installing APS’s that the engineers can use, giving points based on need and features of the crossing.

You might also mention in passing that jurisdictions have been taken to court and required to install APS‘s at all their intersections, and they can forestall this by having a transition plan that shows how much they are budgeting to make their facilities accessible by what date, and then FOLLOW THEIR PLAN!!

— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org

On Dec 7, 2024, at 6:44?PM, Rosemary Gribbin via groups.io <jumbiee9740@...> wrote:

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Hi everyone?
I am trying to have an APS installed for several of my clients.. however I was told they are too expensive. Does anyone know of a grant that will pay for this ? ?I understand that there are APS that are not as expensive but work just as well. Does anyone have any info on this? I would greatly appreciate it?
?
thank you?
Rosemary Gribbin. COMS

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Re: EAC Re: [OandM] Audible pedestrian signals

 

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Rosemary,
I have also been told that APS installation is too expensive. If you break it down installing a new plus intersection will cost around one million dollars.?

APS will cost roughly $10,000 or relatively speaking one percent of the cost for a new intersection.?
Cost is not a factor. It’s an excuse!?

JoAnne Chalom, COMS. Ed.S

On Dec 7, 2024, at 9:59?PM, Gene Bourquin <oandmhk@...> wrote:

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Although it is true, that municipalities are required to have a transition plan, nothing in current law requires anyone to install an APS except the requirements in the New PROWAG filtering the MUTCD. That is, when there is major changes at an intersection APSs must be put in at that location. But, in the absence of any major changes to the signaling system or surfaces nothing requires a Department of Transportation or Public Works to install an APS at a particular location.

Both in New York City, and in Chicago, federal courts have required that the crosswalks be made accessible. In New York, the court required a minimum of around 70% (if my memory is accurate) of crosswalks that are signalized to have APS, and upon review perhaps 100%. But these decisions are only effective within the jurisdiction of those federal courts.

I suggest as a first step, to take all of Dona's advice and contact the jurisdiction. I would emphasize the aspects of the intersection that pose risks and dangerous to pedestrians, only because fear of lawsuits is a major compelling incentive for cities and counties to install the APS once they've been warned that they may be liable. Technically, the cost of installing the APS cannot be a factor unless it would cause the municipality to go bankrupt. The practical problem is that sometimes you've got to sue them to make it happen, best to use persuasion as your first line of offense along with logic

Gene

The Rev Dr Gene Bourquin, Deacon

New York City / Chiang Mai, Thailand

Orientation & Mobility Specialist
Low Vision Therapist
ASL/English interpreter

Like & Follow

Bourquin Consulting ?www.facebook.com/groups/BourquinConsulting/

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Subject: EAC Re: [OandM] Audible pedestrian signals
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Rosemary, it’s the law - our public rights of way MUST be made accessible.

I have had traffic engineers say that if they make it accessible for one, they’re going to have to do it for everybody and they will go bankrupt.

So I assure them that this is considered when they make their transition plan. They are required by law to have a plan to transition to make their facilities accessible, and they can set the budget and prioritize within that budget. This gives them control, so they don’t need to worry about going bankrupt.

But they need to know that it is required by law that they have this transition plan. You might gently ask about their transition plan and when they give you the “deer in the headlights“ look, explain to them that they are required to have a plan to comply with the law that says their facilities must be accessible.

There are a number of priority plans for installing APS’s that the engineers can use, giving points based on need and features of the crossing.

You might also mention in passing that jurisdictions have been taken to court and required to install APS‘s at all their intersections, and they can forestall this by having a transition plan that shows how much they are budgeting to make their facilities accessible by what date, and then FOLLOW THEIR PLAN!!

— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org

On Dec 7, 2024, at 6:44?PM, Rosemary Gribbin via groups.io <jumbiee9740@...> wrote:

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Hi everyone?
I am trying to have an APS installed for several of my clients.. however I was told they are too expensive. Does anyone know of a grant that will pay for this ? ?I understand that there are APS that are not as expensive but work just as well. Does anyone have any info on this? I would greatly appreciate it?
?
thank you?
Rosemary Gribbin. COMS

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Re: Audible pedestrian signals

 

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Rosemary, it’s the law - our public rights of way MUST be made accessible.

I have had traffic engineers say that if they make it accessible for one, they’re going to have to do it for everybody and they will go bankrupt.

So I assure them that this is considered when they make their transition plan. They are required by law to have a plan to transition to make their facilities accessible, and they can set the budget and prioritize within that budget. This gives them control, so they don’t need to worry about going bankrupt.

But they need to know that it is required by law that they have this transition plan. You might gently ask about their transition plan and when they give you the “deer in the headlights“ look, explain to them that they are required to have a plan to comply with the law that says their facilities must be accessible.

There are a number of priority plans for installing APS’s that the engineers can use, giving points based on need and features of the crossing.

You might also mention in passing that jurisdictions have been taken to court and required to install APS‘s at all their intersections, and they can forestall this by having a transition plan that shows how much they are budgeting to make their facilities accessible by what date, and then FOLLOW THEIR PLAN!!

— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org

On Dec 7, 2024, at 6:44?PM, Rosemary Gribbin via groups.io <jumbiee9740@...> wrote:

?
Hi everyone?
I am trying to have an APS installed for several of my clients.. however I was told they are too expensive. Does anyone know of a grant that will pay for this ? ?I understand that there are APS that are not as expensive but work just as well. Does anyone have any info on this? I would greatly appreciate it?
?
thank you?
Rosemary Gribbin. COMS


Audible pedestrian signals

 

Hi everyone?
I am trying to have an APS installed for several of my clients.. however I was told they are too expensive. Does anyone know of a grant that will pay for this ? ?I understand that there are APS that are not as expensive but work just as well. Does anyone have any info on this? I would greatly appreciate it?
?
thank you?
Rosemary Gribbin. COMS


Re: O&M in hospitals

 

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Thanks Amy and Maggie! A student in a my class asked me bc the hospital she works at is considering one.?
Thank you
KH


~ ~ ~

Kevin Hollinger

CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENS, TVI

Francis Howell School District

kevin.hollinger@...

636-851-6143 office

636-851-6030?fax


On Dec 6, 2024, at 5:54?PM, Margaret Winn via groups.io <margaretkwinn@...> wrote:

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University of Michigan Health Systems had a COMS until recently. Let me know if you would like his contact information.?

Maggie Winn?

On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 5:57?PM Amy Parker via <atp5=[email protected]> wrote:
Seattle Children's Hospital may have an O&M on staff who also provides recreational therapy.? I can confirm if you would like.?

Amy T. Parker, EdD & COMS
Associate Professor
Coordinator, Orientation and Mobility Program
Portland State University,?College of Education
Vanport Building-VB 423-K
8610

503-725-4695 tel

Mailing Address:
630?













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On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:54?PM Chris Tabb via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.



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On Dec 6, 2024, at 3:47?PM, HOLLINGER, KEVIN via <kevin.hollinger=[email protected]> wrote:

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Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I’m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?

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Re: O&M in hospitals

 

University of Michigan Health Systems had a COMS until recently. Let me know if you would like his contact information.?

Maggie Winn?

On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 5:57?PM Amy Parker via <atp5=[email protected]> wrote:
Seattle Children's Hospital may have an O&M on staff who also provides recreational therapy.? I can confirm if you would like.?

Amy T. Parker, EdD & COMS
Associate Professor
Coordinator, Orientation and Mobility Program
Portland State University,?College of Education
Vanport Building-VB 423-K
8610

503-725-4695 tel

Mailing Address:
630?













pronouns: ?she/her/hers




On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:54?PM Chris Tabb via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.



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On Dec 6, 2024, at 3:47?PM, HOLLINGER, KEVIN via <kevin.hollinger=[email protected]> wrote:

颁谤别飞……
Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I’m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?

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CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENS, TVI
Francis Howell School District
636-851-6143 office
636-851-6030?fax
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Re: O&M in hospitals

 

Seattle Children's Hospital may have an O&M on staff who also provides recreational therapy.? I can confirm if you would like.?

Amy T. Parker, EdD & COMS
Associate Professor
Coordinator, Orientation and Mobility Program
Portland State University,?College of Education
Vanport Building-VB 423-K
8610 SW 5th Avenue
Portland,?OR?97201,?US
503-725-4695 tel

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2024 at 2:54?PM Chris Tabb via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.



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Mobile:??512.660.2750


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On Dec 6, 2024, at 3:47?PM, HOLLINGER, KEVIN via <kevin.hollinger=[email protected]> wrote:

颁谤别飞……
Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I’m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?

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CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENS, TVI
Francis Howell School District
636-851-6143 office
636-851-6030?fax
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Re: O&M in hospitals

 

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VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.



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On Dec 6, 2024, at 3:47?PM, HOLLINGER, KEVIN via groups.io <kevin.hollinger@...> wrote:

颁谤别飞……
Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I’m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?

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O&M in hospitals

 

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颁谤别飞……
Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I’m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?


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Kevin Hollinger

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Francis Howell School District

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636-851-6030?fax

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Re: Carly, did you see my message about Ideas for Nonverbal Students?

 

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Thank you Dona

On Nov 26, 2024, at 10:33?AM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:

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Just in case it didn't come through, here it is again:
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On 11/22/2024 11:46 AM EST Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:
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I’m sure there are textbooks and literature and folks on this listserv who can be more helpful than I am, but I’ll just share what I do with students like this (i usually work with adults but possibly this may be helpful to you too).
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Generally, i observe them for a while in different settings to see how they’re getting around, looking for ways that their safety and independence can be improved. ?then I meet with the family / staff / teachers to work on some goals that would make their lives (student AND family /staff / teachers) better.
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We all brainstorm how to implement those goals, all working together. We all have expertise to bring to this endeavor, we are are equal - I have expertise in how people can get around safely and efficiently, they are experts in the students and their abilities and needs. When they (family /staff / teachers) are invested in the goals and how to achieve them, they become motivated and involved and carry through between my visits.

— Dona
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On Nov 22, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Carly Blasco via groups.io <cblasco79@...> wrote:

Hello Everyone,
The students that I’m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don’t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn’t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you’ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
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Does this help??
?
Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.?
I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
?
Thank you?
?

On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:44?PM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:

I think you’re right, Chris, I assumed “non-verbal” meant “limited language”, and Robert is SO correct that “non-verbal” is not a good term if you actually mean “limited language” - no wonder he was confused!
?
Carly, please clarify - thank you!!

— Dona
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Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org

On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Chris Tabb via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:

Hi Robert,
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Carly’s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
?
Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are “non-verbal” I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via groups.io <robert.sirvage@...> wrote:
Robert -??
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What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
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If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
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And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
?
And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
?
So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.?
?
?Warmly?
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:03?PM Chris Tabb via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Carly,
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Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at…
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And a couple of LiveBinders…
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:52?AM, Carly Blasco via <cblasco79=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I’m looking for ideas for goals and lesson strategies for my students who are not textbook O&M students.

I have several students who are not fluently verbal and have additional learning needs.

I’m reaching out for your input, execution ideas, and suggestions. Matching games, etc? What are your go to resources for ideas? Where do you get your inspiration from and where do you get supplies from?

Thank you?





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Carly, did you see my message about Ideas for Nonverbal Students?

 

Just in case it didn't come through, here it is again:
?
On 11/22/2024 11:46 AM EST Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:
?
I’m sure there are textbooks and literature and folks on this listserv who can be more helpful than I am, but I’ll just share what I do with students like this (i usually work with adults but possibly this may be helpful to you too).
?
Generally, i observe them for a while in different settings to see how they’re getting around, looking for ways that their safety and independence can be improved. ?then I meet with the family / staff / teachers to work on some goals that would make their lives (student AND family /staff / teachers) better.
?
We all brainstorm how to implement those goals, all working together. We all have expertise to bring to this endeavor, we are are equal - I have expertise in how people can get around safely and efficiently, they are experts in the students and their abilities and needs. When they (family /staff / teachers) are invested in the goals and how to achieve them, they become motivated and involved and carry through between my visits.

— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org


On Nov 22, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Carly Blasco via groups.io <cblasco79@...> wrote:

Hello Everyone,
The students that I’m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don’t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn’t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you’ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
?
Does this help??
?
Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.?
I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
?
Thank you?
?

On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:44?PM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:

I think you’re right, Chris, I assumed “non-verbal” meant “limited language”, and Robert is SO correct that “non-verbal” is not a good term if you actually mean “limited language” - no wonder he was confused!
?
Carly, please clarify - thank you!!

— Dona
—————————
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org

On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Chris Tabb via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:

Hi Robert,
?
Carly’s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
?
Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are “non-verbal” I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
?
?

Christopher J. Tabb, M.A., COMS

chris@...
Mobile:??512.660.2750


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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via groups.io <robert.sirvage@...> wrote:
Robert -??
?
What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
?
If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
?
And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
?
And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
?
So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.?
?
?Warmly?
?
?
?
?
?
?
??

On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 1:03?PM Chris Tabb via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Carly,
?
Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at…
?
?
And a couple of LiveBinders…
?
?

--
Sent from iPhone

Chris Tabb
512.660.2750

On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:52?AM, Carly Blasco via <cblasco79=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I’m looking for ideas for goals and lesson strategies for my students who are not textbook O&M students.

I have several students who are not fluently verbal and have additional learning needs.

I’m reaching out for your input, execution ideas, and suggestions. Matching games, etc? What are your go to resources for ideas? Where do you get your inspiration from and where do you get supplies from?

Thank you?





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Robert T. Sirvage


Re: Voice Vista

 

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Send it by email rather than text.? Then you will have the option to download and save it to the phone.? Then go to voice vista and import from there.??


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Sent: Friday, November 15, 2024 10:30 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [OandM] Voice Vista
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You don't often get email from jennifer.pelletier@....
Thanks, Jack. I think what you're describing is what I have tried to do, but it's still not working. In my experience, I select "Share" and have the option to send the route to another person via text, and it arrives as a .vvr file. However, when the receiver gets it, there is no option to "download". And it does not appear under Settings/Import VoiceVista Route File (.vvr).?Let me know if you think I'm missing something!?