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On 11/22/2024 11:46 AM EST Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m sure there are textbooks and literature and folks on this listserv who can be more helpful than I am, but I¡¯ll just share what I do with students like this (i usually work with adults but possibly this may be helpful to you too).
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Generally, i observe them for a while in different settings to see how they¡¯re getting around, looking for ways that their safety and independence can be improved. ?then I meet with the family / staff / teachers to work on some goals that would make their lives (student AND family /staff / teachers) better.
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We all brainstorm how to implement those goals, all working together. We all have expertise to bring to this endeavor, we are are equal - I have expertise in how people can get around safely and efficiently, they are experts in the students and their abilities and needs. When they (family /staff / teachers) are invested in the goals and how to achieve them, they become motivated and involved and carry through between my visits.
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Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
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On Nov 22, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Carly Blasco via groups.io <cblasco79@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
The students that I¡¯m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don¡¯t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn¡¯t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you¡¯ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
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Does this help??
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Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.?
I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
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Thank you?
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:44?PM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:
I think you¡¯re right, Chris, I assumed ¡°non-verbal¡± meant ¡°limited language¡±, and Robert is SO correct that ¡°non-verbal¡± is not a good term if you actually mean ¡°limited language¡± - no wonder he was confused!
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Carly, please clarify - thank you!!
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Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org
On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Chris Tabb via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,
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Carly¡¯s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
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Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are ¡°non-verbal¡± I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via groups.io <robert.sirvage@...> wrote:
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What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
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If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
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And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
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And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
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So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.?
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Hi Carly,
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Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at¡
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And a couple of LiveBinders¡
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Hello Everyone,
I¡¯m looking for ideas for goals and lesson strategies for my students who are not textbook O&M students.
I have several students who are not fluently verbal and have additional learning needs.
I¡¯m reaching out for your input, execution ideas, and suggestions. Matching games, etc? What are your go to resources for ideas? Where do you get your inspiration from and where do you get supplies from?
Thank you?
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