Rosemary,
I have also been told that APS installation is too expensive. If you break it down installing a new plus intersection will cost around one million dollars.?
APS will cost roughly $10,000 or relatively speaking one percent of the cost for a new intersection.?
Cost is not a factor. It¡¯s an excuse!?
JoAnne Chalom, COMS. Ed.S
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On Dec 7, 2024, at 9:59?PM, Gene Bourquin <oandmhk@...> wrote:
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Although it is true, that municipalities are required to have a transition plan, nothing in current law requires anyone to install an APS except the requirements in the New PROWAG filtering the MUTCD. That is, when there is major changes at an
intersection APSs must be put in at that location. But, in the absence of any major changes to the signaling system or surfaces nothing requires a Department of Transportation or Public Works to install an APS at a particular location.
Both in New York City, and in Chicago, federal courts have required that the crosswalks be made accessible. In New York, the court required a minimum of around 70% (if my memory is accurate) of crosswalks that are signalized to have APS, and
upon review perhaps 100%. But these decisions are only effective within the jurisdiction of those federal courts.
I suggest as a first step, to take all of Dona's advice and contact the jurisdiction. I would emphasize the aspects of the intersection that pose risks and dangerous to pedestrians, only because fear of lawsuits is a major compelling incentive
for cities and counties to install the APS once they've been warned that they may be liable. Technically, the cost of installing the APS cannot be a factor unless it would cause the municipality to go bankrupt. The practical problem is that sometimes you've
got to sue them to make it happen, best to use persuasion as your first line of offense along with logic
Gene
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Rosemary, it¡¯s the law - our public rights of way MUST be made accessible.
I have had traffic engineers say that if they make it accessible for one, they¡¯re going to have to do it for everybody and they will go bankrupt.
So I assure them that this is considered when they make their transition plan. They are required by law to have a plan to transition to make their facilities accessible, and they can set the budget and prioritize within that budget. This gives them control,
so they don¡¯t need to worry about going bankrupt.
But they need to know that it is required by law that they have this transition plan. You might gently ask about their transition plan and when they give you the ¡°deer in the headlights¡° look, explain to them that they are required to have a plan to comply
with the law that says their facilities must be accessible.
There are a number of priority plans for installing APS¡¯s that the engineers can use, giving points based on need and features of the crossing.
You might also mention in passing that jurisdictions have been taken to court and required to install APS¡®s at all their intersections, and they can forestall this by having a transition plan that shows how much they are budgeting to make their facilities
accessible by what date, and then FOLLOW THEIR PLAN!!
¡ª Dona
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On Dec 7, 2024, at 6:44?PM, Rosemary Gribbin via groups.io <jumbiee9740@...> wrote:
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Hi everyone?
I am trying to have an APS installed for several of my clients.. however I was told they are too expensive. Does anyone know of a grant that will pay for this ? ?I understand that there are APS that are not as expensive but work just as well. Does anyone
have any info on this? I would greatly appreciate it?
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thank you?
Rosemary Gribbin. COMS
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