Thanks Amy and Maggie! A student in a my class asked me bc the hospital she works at is considering one.?
Thank you
KH
~ ~ ~
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Francis Howell School District
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On Dec 6, 2024, at 5:54?PM, Margaret Winn via groups.io <margaretkwinn@...> wrote:
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University of Michigan Health Systems had a COMS until recently. Let me know if you would like his contact information.?
Maggie Winn?
Seattle Children's Hospital may have an O&M on staff who also provides recreational therapy.? I can confirm if you would like.?
Amy T. Parker, EdD & COMS
Associate Professor
Coordinator, Orientation and Mobility Program
Portland State University,?College of Education
Vanport Building-VB 423-K
8610
503-725-4695 tel
Mailing Address:
630?
pronouns: ?she/her/hers
VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.
¡ª
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Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I¡¯m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you
do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?
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Francis Howell School District
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University of Michigan Health Systems had a COMS until recently. Let me know if you would like his contact information.?
Maggie Winn?
Seattle Children's Hospital may have an O&M on staff who also provides recreational therapy.? I can confirm if you would like.?
Amy T. Parker, EdD & COMS Associate Professor Coordinator, Orientation and Mobility Program Portland State University,?College of Education Vanport Building-VB 423-K 8610 503-725-4695 tel
Mailing Address: 630?
pronouns: ?she/her/hers
VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.
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Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I¡¯m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you
do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?
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Seattle Children's Hospital may have an O&M on staff who also provides recreational therapy.? I can confirm if you would like.?
Amy T. Parker, EdD & COMS Associate Professor Coordinator, Orientation and Mobility Program Portland State University,?College of Education Vanport Building-VB 423-K 8610 SW 5th AvenuePortland,?OR?97201,?US503-725-4695 tel
Mailing Address: 630?SW Mill St. Portland, OR 97201
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VA is the only one that I know of with any certainty.
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Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I¡¯m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you
do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?
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I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I¡¯m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you
do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?
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Yo!?
I had someone ask me if there are any hospitals who offer Orientation and Mobility services as part of their treatment and care. The first thing I thought of was the VA but I¡¯m not sure if other hospitals have Mobility specialist on staff-what say you
do you know of any and, if so, where are they located?
Kevin?
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CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENS, TVI
Francis Howell School District
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Re: Carly, did you see my message about Ideas for Nonverbal Students?
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On Nov 26, 2024, at 10:33?AM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:
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Just in case it didn't come through, here it is again:
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On 11/22/2024 11:46 AM EST Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:
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I¡¯m sure there are textbooks and literature and folks on this listserv who can be more helpful than I am, but I¡¯ll just share what I do with students like this (i usually work with adults but possibly this may be helpful to you too).
?
Generally, i observe them for a while in different settings to see how they¡¯re getting around, looking for ways that their safety and independence can be improved. ?then I meet with the family / staff / teachers to work on some goals that would make their lives (student AND family /staff / teachers) better.
?
We all brainstorm how to implement those goals, all working together. We all have expertise to bring to this endeavor, we are are equal - I have expertise in how people can get around safely and efficiently, they are experts in the students and their abilities and needs. When they (family /staff / teachers) are invested in the goals and how to achieve them, they become motivated and involved and carry through between my visits.
¡ª Dona
¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org
On Nov 22, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Carly Blasco via groups.io <cblasco79@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
The students that I¡¯m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don¡¯t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn¡¯t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you¡¯ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
?
Does this help??
?
Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.?
I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
?
Thank you?
?
On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:44?PM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:
I think you¡¯re right, Chris, I assumed ¡°non-verbal¡± meant ¡°limited language¡±, and Robert is SO correct that ¡°non-verbal¡± is not a good term if you actually mean ¡°limited language¡± - no wonder he was confused!
?
Carly, please clarify - thank you!!
¡ª Dona
¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org
On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Chris Tabb via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,
?
Carly¡¯s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
?
Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are ¡°non-verbal¡± I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
?
?
¡ª
Christopher J. Tabb, M.A., COMS
chris@...
Mobile:??512.660.2750
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via groups.io <robert.sirvage@...> wrote:
Robert -??
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What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
?
If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
?
And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
?
And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
?
So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.?
?
?Warmly?
?
?
?
?
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Hi Carly,
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Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at¡
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Hello Everyone,
I¡¯m looking for ideas for goals and lesson strategies for my students who are not textbook O&M students.
I have several students who are not fluently verbal and have additional learning needs.
I¡¯m reaching out for your input, execution ideas, and suggestions. Matching games, etc? What are your go to resources for ideas? Where do you get your inspiration from and where do you get supplies from?
Thank you?
?
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Carly, did you see my message about Ideas for Nonverbal Students?
Just in case it didn't come through, here it is again:
?
On 11/22/2024 11:46 AM EST Dona Sauerburger <dona@...> wrote:
?
I¡¯m sure there are textbooks and literature and folks on this listserv who can be more helpful than I am, but I¡¯ll just share what I do with students like this (i usually work with adults but possibly this may be helpful to you too).
?
Generally, i observe them for a while in different settings to see how they¡¯re getting around, looking for ways that their safety and independence can be improved. ?then I meet with the family / staff / teachers to work on some goals that would make their lives (student AND family /staff / teachers) better.
?
We all brainstorm how to implement those goals, all working together. We all have expertise to bring to this endeavor, we are are equal - I have expertise in how people can get around safely and efficiently, they are experts in the students and their abilities and needs. When they (family /staff / teachers) are invested in the goals and how to achieve them, they become motivated and involved and carry through between my visits.
¡ª Dona
¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org
On Nov 22, 2024, at 11:12 AM, Carly Blasco via groups.io <cblasco79@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
The students that I¡¯m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don¡¯t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn¡¯t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you¡¯ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
?
Does this help??
?
Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.?
I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
?
Thank you?
?
On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:44?PM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:
I think you¡¯re right, Chris, I assumed ¡°non-verbal¡± meant ¡°limited language¡±, and Robert is SO correct that ¡°non-verbal¡± is not a good term if you actually mean ¡°limited language¡± - no wonder he was confused!
?
Carly, please clarify - thank you!!
¡ª Dona
¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª
Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
www.sauerburger.org
On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Chris Tabb via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:
Hi Robert,
?
Carly¡¯s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
?
Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are ¡°non-verbal¡± I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
?
?
¡ª
Christopher J. Tabb, M.A., COMS
chris@...
Mobile:??512.660.2750
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Image: ACVREP Digital Badge for COMS
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via groups.io <robert.sirvage@...> wrote:
Robert -??
?
What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
?
If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
?
And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
?
And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
?
So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.?
?
?Warmly?
?
?
?
?
?
?
??
Hi Carly,
?
Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at¡
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Hello Everyone,
I¡¯m looking for ideas for goals and lesson strategies for my students who are not textbook O&M students.
I have several students who are not fluently verbal and have additional learning needs.
I¡¯m reaching out for your input, execution ideas, and suggestions. Matching games, etc? What are your go to resources for ideas? Where do you get your inspiration from and where do you get supplies from?
Thank you?
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Send it by email rather than text.? Then you will have the option to download and save it to the phone.? Then go to voice vista and import from there.??
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Thanks, Jack. I think what you're describing is what I have tried to do, but it's still not working. In my experience, I select
"Share" and have the option to send the route to another person via text, and it arrives as a .vvr file. However, when the receiver gets it, there is no option to "download". And it does not appear under
Settings/Import VoiceVista Route File (.vvr).?Let me know if you think I'm missing something!?
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Re: Ideas for Nonverbal Students
Ahh okay thank Carly!??
This would be case of mutism.. as there are several different causes ranging from being due to physical to being result of?cognitive?condition.??
I am familiar?with former (hearing a person with mutism due to the structure of his vocal bones).? but I am afraid? that I don't have much experience working?with latter one.? One that have cognition?condition that impedes one's speech as sometimes it might also have another effect such as the ability to process information for example.??
I might be wrong here but reading your initial?description of the student..? it seem to be latter one too..? I am guessing your search are more on working around with one's ability to process informations to start with?
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 9:22?AM Carly Blasco via <cblasco79= [email protected]> wrote: Thank you everyone. My students have had their hearing tested and they are processing the sounds and they don¡¯t have any hearing impairment. Their hearing isn¡¯t what is affecting their ability to communicate.? ?Hi Carly,
Scott here.
I am going to have to agree with Cris and Robert.
It needs to be using the term as either deaf or hard of hearing as the correct term.? A deaf person who doesn't use a voice and voice themselves but it is uing sign language.? I have been around with deaf and hard of hearing coomunities for a very long time.
I am going to recommend for you to contact with your state commission for the deaf and hard of hearing as they can make the correct term to you.
I do understand that there are some DeafBlind folks do have CVI as I just learned about this. ? I do know one DeafBlind person who is a teenager as the mother explains to me about related to the CVI as I do understand about it.
Hope this help you.
Best regards,
Scott Dollar ? ?Hello Everyone, The students that I¡¯m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don¡¯t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn¡¯t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you¡¯ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
Does this help??
Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.? I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
Thank you? ?I think you¡¯re right, Chris, I assumed ¡°non-verbal¡± meant ¡°limited language¡±, and Robert is SO correct that ¡°non-verbal¡± is not a good term if you actually mean ¡°limited language¡± - no wonder he was confused!
Carly, please clarify - thank you!! ¡ª Dona ¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª¡ª Dona Sauerburger, COMS Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
?Hi Robert,
Carly¡¯s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are ¡°non-verbal¡± I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via <robert.sirvage= [email protected]> wrote:
Robert -??
What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.? ? ?Warmly?
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?? Hi Carly,
Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at¡
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