Hi Carly,
Scott here.
I am going to have to agree with Cris and Robert.
It needs to be using the term as either deaf or hard of hearing as the correct term. ?A deaf person who doesn't use a voice and voice themselves but it is uing sign language. ?I have been around with deaf and hard of hearing coomunities for a very long time.
I am going to recommend for you to contact with your state commission for the deaf and hard of hearing as they can make the correct term to you.
I do understand that there are some DeafBlind folks do have CVI as I just learned about this. ? I do know one DeafBlind person who is a teenager as the mother explains to me about related to the CVI as I do understand about it.
Hope this help you.
Best regards,
Scott Dollar
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On Nov 22, 2024, at 10:12 AM, Carly Blasco via groups.io <cblasco79@...> wrote:
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Hello Everyone,
The students that I¡¯m working with are a mixture between extremely limited verbal expression and students who don¡¯t use any words to express themselves. The non-verbal students make sounds, however it isn¡¯t anything that would be defined as words. The other students express themselves, however they are not your traditional words that may be interpreted as being verbal. Once you¡¯ve learned their language, then you can tell what they are expressing.?
Does this help??
Some of the kiddos, are primarily delayed learners and have other setbacks that are combined with a higher level CVI range from 6-9.?
I want to be able to be able to more effectively service them and make my time with them beneficial.?
Thank you?
On Nov 21, 2024, at 10:44?PM, Dona Sauerburger via groups.io <dona@...> wrote:
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I think you¡¯re right, Chris, I assumed ¡°non-verbal¡± meant ¡°limited language¡±, and Robert is SO correct that ¡°non-verbal¡± is not a good term if you actually mean ¡°limited language¡± - no wonder he was confused!
Carly, please clarify - thank you!!
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Dona Sauerburger, COMS
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 3:17 PM, Chris Tabb via groups.io <chris@...> wrote:
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Hi Robert,
Carly¡¯s original question may have a different context. I interpreted her question to be about young people who are not functioning at an academic level with their age matched peers; more specifically, those who are not using ASL, either visually or through manual or tactile sign, Protactile, etc. I may be wrong in how I interpreted her initial question.
Generally when I consider the needs of individuals who are ¡°non-verbal¡± I am thinking about those who have not yet developed the use of formal language and are expressing their needs, wants, and emotions using either body language, object symbols, or some other form of expression that precedes the use of sign language, spoken language, Protactile, etc.
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 12:57?PM, Robert T. Sirvage via groups.io <robert.sirvage@...> wrote:
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What does 'non-verbal' mean within this context?? ?I am asking because sometimes people would consider me as being non-verbal just because I don't use voice as I sign or tactile instead.? However there are some would argue?that being verbal?does not necessarily mean using voice per se.??
If that is what non-verbal means here = not using voice to express or at least? not with ease, then I would learn?the non-verbal language in order to be able to interact with students effectively.? ?Protactile or sign language.? ??
And I am familiar?with people who are hearing with mutism.? ?They could hear but only could express in sign language.? And that hearing person would depend on whether or not you know the language as well.?
And there are another pack..? the person might not be able to use voice or sign to express due to motor skills or cognition conditions that might impede one from express coherently and with ease via? one of linguistic colloquials.?
So far I have identified several possibilities?to what non-verbal here mean aseach have different work around to become a more effective teacher / trainer..? So it will be helpful if we know more about what this 'non-verbal' and " not textbook O&M student" mean.?
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Hi Carly,
Though your learner may not be deafblind, there are quite a few resorces related to students who pre-formal language at¡
