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Re: ASI174 Camera

 

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Chris,
If you¡¯re referring to the ASI174, I can assure you there is a monochrome version (at least in the mini form factor) ¡ª I own 2 of them! :)



~Oscar

On Mar 24, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Chris T via groups.io <thuemen_cm@...> wrote:

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Hi Greg!
Can you clarify one thing...is this the MC or colour version of the camera. I am checking online and there does not appear to be a mono version of this camera. The question I have...what is the makeup of this image...single long exposure or stacked short exposures. This would make a significant impact on the resolution. The pixels are very small on this camera so it should provide good resolution. What is your focusing regimen??

Cheers, Chris.

On Thursday, March 24, 2022, 09:28:43 a.m. EDT, gregz12@... <gregz12@...> wrote:


Hi,

I'm having an issue with guiding.? I'm using an ONAG with ASI462 and have bloated stars which limits my guiding.? I suspect I'll be able to get sharper stars using a mono camera with higher binning.? I'm reluctant to buy a new camera unless I know it will help.?

My image below as taking with guiding around 0.9 to 1.1 arc second and the image scale is 1.09 arc sec/pixel.? My understanding is i'm leaving resolution on the table.? ?Does anyone here have a 174 standard or mini camera which I could try with my setup for a few minutes?? I can offer cold beer and geeky astronomy talk while doing the experiment.

Whirlpool Galaxy? - Integration time ~ 5H


Re: ASI174 Camera

 

Hi Greg!
Can you clarify one thing...is this the MC or colour version of the camera. I am checking online and there does not appear to be a mono version of this camera. The question I have...what is the makeup of this image...single long exposure or stacked short exposures. This would make a significant impact on the resolution. The pixels are very small on this camera so it should provide good resolution. What is your focusing regimen??

Cheers, Chris.

On Thursday, March 24, 2022, 09:28:43 a.m. EDT, gregz12@... <gregz12@...> wrote:


Hi,

I'm having an issue with guiding.? I'm using an ONAG with ASI462 and have bloated stars which limits my guiding.? I suspect I'll be able to get sharper stars using a mono camera with higher binning.? I'm reluctant to buy a new camera unless I know it will help.?

My image below as taking with guiding around 0.9 to 1.1 arc second and the image scale is 1.09 arc sec/pixel.? My understanding is i'm leaving resolution on the table.? ?Does anyone here have a 174 standard or mini camera which I could try with my setup for a few minutes?? I can offer cold beer and geeky astronomy talk while doing the experiment.

Whirlpool Galaxy? - Integration time ~ 5H


Re: ASI174 Camera

 

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Hey Greg,

If you¡¯re willing to drive out to my place in White Lake on some night, I¡¯d be happy to let you try out my ASI174MM Mini.

~Oscar

On Mar 24, 2022, at 9:28 AM, gregz12@... wrote:

?Hi,

I'm having an issue with guiding.? I'm using an ONAG with ASI462 and have bloated stars which limits my guiding.? I suspect I'll be able to get sharper stars using a mono camera with higher binning.? I'm reluctant to buy a new camera unless I know it will help.?

My image below as taking with guiding around 0.9 to 1.1 arc second and the image scale is 1.09 arc sec/pixel.? My understanding is i'm leaving resolution on the table.? ?Does anyone here have a 174 standard or mini camera which I could try with my setup for a few minutes?? I can offer cold beer and geeky astronomy talk while doing the experiment.

Whirlpool Galaxy? - Integration time ~ 5H Whirlpool.PNG


ASI174 Camera

 

Hi,

I'm having an issue with guiding.? I'm using an ONAG with ASI462 and have bloated stars which limits my guiding.? I suspect I'll be able to get sharper stars using a mono camera with higher binning.? I'm reluctant to buy a new camera unless I know it will help.?

My image below as taking with guiding around 0.9 to 1.1 arc second and the image scale is 1.09 arc sec/pixel.? My understanding is i'm leaving resolution on the table.? ?Does anyone here have a 174 standard or mini camera which I could try with my setup for a few minutes?? I can offer cold beer and geeky astronomy talk while doing the experiment.

Whirlpool Galaxy? - Integration time ~ 5H


Re: Hubble images

 

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You are correct! Sidewalk astronomy soon, and Starfest in August! Be still my heart¡­.

Richard??


On Mar 15, 2022, at 1:34 PM, James Sofia <drsofia@...> wrote:

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Hi folks:

Check out the link below re:? Hubble's amazing images!





Warm weather is coming!!

Jim


Hubble images

 

Hi folks:

Check out the link below re:? Hubble's amazing images!





Warm weather is coming!!

Jim


Stars and Moon Observation Project

Binali Furkan Alper
 

Hello All
We are observing the stars and moon? in Turkey. We have a project and we need a astronomer which going to make same?observation with us. We need datas of stars and moon from different?locations.
For project details
Please contact to me :?binalifurkana@...



Re: Photoshop UXP plugin for deep sky images.

InQ
 

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Glad the plugin is of use. I can't use it yet as I am only doing videos of the moon through an eyepiece with a point and shoot. Focusing using that little screen on the back of the camera often means soft focus. So I am always looking for free plugins or utilities. When I saw NASA and ESA mentioned for this one, I knew it had to be good. NASA started the sharpening trend anyways :). btw, I recently used a 3 hole mask to help focus with moderate success, so a 2 and/or 4 hole mask is the next experiment.

The name InQ, is short for Inquistve which is the pseudo I used on an old fashioned multi-line phone in BBS, which dates it :). That is where I met my wife.

InQ

p.s. My real name is Al, (Alfred) and I can kind tell who is talking to me by what they call me :D

On 2022-01-18 9:23 p.m., Simon Hanmer wrote:

InQ ¡­ (?)

Thanks for the link ¡­

I checked it out this afternoon, bought it and tested it on an old rather fuzzy image just to see what it can do ¡­


Well you can¡¯t make a silk purse out of a sow¡¯s ear and my image of the Cocoon was rather so-so ¡­ but you can definitely see the benefit of the PS Plug-In, considering that this was my very first attempt at this.

I¡¯m sold ¡­ !! Glad you brought this to our attention.

Simon




Re: Photoshop UXP plugin for deep sky images.

 

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InQ ¡­ (?)

Thanks for the link ¡­

I checked it out this afternoon, bought it and tested it on an old rather fuzzy image just to see what it can do ¡­


Well you can¡¯t make a silk purse out of a sow¡¯s ear and my image of the Cocoon was rather so-so ¡­ but you can definitely see the benefit of the PS Plug-In, considering that this was my very first attempt at this.

I¡¯m sold ¡­ !! Glad you brought this to our attention.

Simon




On Jan 18, 2022, at 12:19, InQ <inq@...> wrote:

I am always on the prowl for software, plugins, etc, even if I can't afford them :), and I ran across a plugin called APF-R - The Absolute Point of Focus, by Picture Instruments. It uses a new plugin framework developed by Adobe, cloud stuff, and so far is only available for PS. You need Photoshop 22 to be able to use it.

Here is their news release describing the plugin, called "Even the Hubble Space Telescope team from NASA and ESA uses APF-R"



clear skies



Near-Earth Asteroid Approach This Evening

 

Well, I'm not sure what time the closest approach actually occurs, I think it might be this afternoon. However, asteroid (7482) 1994 PC1 is passing near the Earth and will be visible this evening - closest approach at 5.2 lunar distances or ~2Mkm (or 2Gm to be more technically correct.) The asteroid is about 1.7km diameter so it would make a big splash if it hit. Looks like mag 10.4, moving about 2arcmin per minute if I'm reading the MPC ephemeris correctly. I've attached the ephemeris that I had them generate. This is for every 5 minutes starting at the end of nautical twilight. My idea, if it stays clear until then, is to point the telescope at a predicted position a few minutes ahead of time then shoot continuously as it passes through the frame. I hope to have both the Boltwood and Hankscope running on it. At 10.4 mag it should be easily visible in almost any small telescope which would be quite a thrill as its motion should be visible real-time.

Rick

07482              [H=16.56]
Date UT R.A. (J2000) Decl. Delta r El. Ph. V Sky Motion Object Sun Moon Uncertainty info
h m s "/min P.A. Azi. Alt. Alt. Phase Dist. Alt. 3-sig/" P.A.
2022 01 18 225900 01 49 48.0 +05 11 39 0.013 0.984 88.8 90.4 10.3 123.56 319.7 359 +51 -12 0.99 102 +05 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 230400 01 49 21.2 +05 19 30 0.013 0.984 88.8 90.5 10.3 123.53 319.7 001 +51 -12 0.99 103 +06 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 230900 01 48 54.4 +05 27 21 0.013 0.984 88.7 90.5 10.3 123.49 319.6 003 +51 -13 0.99 103 +07 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 231400 01 48 27.7 +05 35 11 0.013 0.984 88.6 90.6 10.3 123.45 319.6 006 +51 -14 0.99 103 +07 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 231900 01 48 00.9 +05 43 01 0.013 0.984 88.6 90.6 10.3 123.41 319.6 008 +51 -15 0.99 103 +08 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 232400 01 47 34.1 +05 50 51 0.013 0.984 88.5 90.7 10.3 123.36 319.6 010 +51 -16 0.99 103 +09 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 232900 01 47 07.3 +05 58 41 0.013 0.984 88.5 90.8 10.3 123.32 319.6 012 +51 -17 0.99 103 +10 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 233400 01 46 40.5 +06 06 30 0.013 0.984 88.4 90.8 10.3 123.26 319.6 014 +51 -18 0.99 103 +10 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 233900 01 46 13.7 +06 14 20 0.013 0.984 88.3 90.9 10.3 123.21 319.6 016 +51 -18 0.99 103 +11 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 234400 01 45 46.9 +06 22 08 0.013 0.984 88.3 90.9 10.4 123.15 319.6 018 +51 -19 0.99 103 +12 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 234900 01 45 20.2 +06 29 57 0.013 0.984 88.2 91.0 10.4 123.09 319.6 021 +50 -20 0.99 103 +13 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 235400 01 44 53.4 +06 37 45 0.013 0.984 88.2 91.1 10.4 123.02 319.5 023 +50 -21 0.99 103 +14 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 18 235900 01 44 26.6 +06 45 33 0.013 0.984 88.1 91.1 10.4 122.95 319.5 025 +50 -22 0.99 103 +15 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 000400 01 43 59.8 +06 53 21 0.013 0.984 88.0 91.2 10.4 122.88 319.5 027 +50 -23 0.99 104 +15 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 000900 01 43 33.0 +07 01 08 0.013 0.983 88.0 91.2 10.4 122.80 319.5 029 +49 -24 0.99 104 +16 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 001400 01 43 06.2 +07 08 55 0.013 0.983 87.9 91.3 10.4 122.73 319.5 031 +49 -25 0.99 104 +17 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 001900 01 42 39.5 +07 16 41 0.013 0.983 87.9 91.4 10.4 122.65 319.5 033 +49 -26 0.99 104 +18 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 002400 01 42 12.7 +07 24 27 0.013 0.983 87.8 91.4 10.4 122.56 319.5 035 +48 -26 0.99 104 +19 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 002900 01 41 45.9 +07 32 13 0.013 0.983 87.7 91.5 10.4 122.47 319.5 037 +48 -27 0.99 104 +19 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 003400 01 41 19.2 +07 39 58 0.013 0.983 87.7 91.6 10.4 122.39 319.5 039 +47 -28 0.99 104 +20 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 003900 01 40 52.4 +07 47 43 0.013 0.983 87.6 91.6 10.4 122.29 319.5 040 +47 -29 0.99 104 +21 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 004400 01 40 25.7 +07 55 27 0.013 0.983 87.6 91.7 10.4 122.20 319.4 042 +46 -30 0.99 104 +22 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 004900 01 39 59.0 +08 03 11 0.013 0.983 87.5 91.7 10.4 122.10 319.4 044 +46 -31 0.99 104 +23 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 005400 01 39 32.2 +08 10 55 0.013 0.983 87.4 91.8 10.4 122.00 319.4 046 +45 -32 0.99 104 +24 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 005900 01 39 05.5 +08 18 38 0.013 0.983 87.4 91.9 10.4 121.89 319.4 047 +44 -33 0.99 105 +25 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 010400 01 38 38.8 +08 26 21 0.013 0.983 87.3 91.9 10.4 121.78 319.4 049 +44 -34 0.99 105 +25 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 010900 01 38 12.1 +08 34 03 0.013 0.983 87.3 92.0 10.4 121.67 319.4 051 +43 -34 0.99 105 +26 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 011400 01 37 45.4 +08 41 44 0.013 0.983 87.2 92.0 10.4 121.56 319.4 052 +42 -35 0.99 105 +27 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 011900 01 37 18.7 +08 49 26 0.013 0.983 87.1 92.1 10.4 121.44 319.4 054 +42 -36 0.99 105 +28 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 012400 01 36 52.1 +08 57 06 0.013 0.983 87.1 92.1 10.4 121.33 319.4 056 +41 -37 0.99 105 +29 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 012900 01 36 25.4 +09 04 46 0.013 0.983 87.0 92.2 10.4 121.20 319.4 057 +40 -38 0.99 105 +30 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 013400 01 35 58.8 +09 12 26 0.013 0.983 87.0 92.3 10.4 121.08 319.4 059 +40 -39 0.99 105 +30 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 013900 01 35 32.2 +09 20 05 0.013 0.983 86.9 92.3 10.4 120.95 319.3 060 +39 -40 0.99 105 +31 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 014400 01 35 05.5 +09 27 44 0.013 0.983 86.8 92.4 10.4 120.83 319.3 061 +38 -41 0.99 105 +32 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 014900 01 34 38.9 +09 35 22 0.013 0.983 86.8 92.4 10.4 120.69 319.3 063 +37 -41 0.99 105 +33 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 015400 01 34 12.4 +09 42 59 0.013 0.983 86.7 92.5 10.4 120.56 319.3 064 +37 -42 0.99 105 +34 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 015900 01 33 45.8 +09 50 36 0.013 0.983 86.7 92.6 10.4 120.42 319.3 066 +36 -43 0.99 106 +35 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 020400 01 33 19.2 +09 58 12 0.013 0.983 86.6 92.6 10.4 120.28 319.3 067 +35 -44 0.99 106 +36 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 020900 01 32 52.7 +10 05 48 0.013 0.983 86.5 92.7 10.4 120.14 319.3 068 +34 -45 0.99 106 +36 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 021400 01 32 26.2 +10 13 23 0.013 0.983 86.5 92.7 10.4 120.00 319.3 070 +33 -46 0.99 106 +37 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 021900 01 31 59.7 +10 20 57 0.013 0.983 86.4 92.8 10.5 119.85 319.3 071 +33 -47 0.99 106 +38 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 022400 01 31 33.2 +10 28 31 0.013 0.983 86.4 92.9 10.5 119.71 319.3 072 +32 -47 0.99 106 +39 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 022900 01 31 06.7 +10 36 04 0.013 0.983 86.3 92.9 10.5 119.55 319.3 073 +31 -48 0.99 106 +40 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 023400 01 30 40.3 +10 43 37 0.013 0.983 86.3 93.0 10.5 119.40 319.3 075 +30 -49 0.99 106 +41 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 023900 01 30 13.8 +10 51 09 0.013 0.983 86.2 93.0 10.5 119.25 319.2 076 +29 -50 0.99 106 +42 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 024400 01 29 47.4 +10 58 40 0.013 0.983 86.1 93.1 10.5 119.09 319.2 077 +28 -51 0.99 106 +42 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 024900 01 29 21.0 +11 06 11 0.013 0.983 86.1 93.1 10.5 118.93 319.2 078 +28 -52 0.99 106 +43 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 025400 01 28 54.7 +11 13 41 0.013 0.983 86.0 93.2 10.5 118.77 319.2 079 +27 -52 0.99 106 +44 N/A N/A / /
2022 01 19 025900 01 28 28.3 +11 21 10 0.013 0.983 86.0 93.3 10.5 118.61 319.2 080 +26 -53 0.99 107 +45 N/A N/A / /


Photoshop UXP plugin for deep sky images.

InQ
 

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I am always on the prowl for software, plugins, etc, even if I can't afford them :), and I ran across a plugin called APF-R - The Absolute Point of Focus, by Picture Instruments. It uses a new plugin framework developed by Adobe, cloud stuff, and so far is only available for PS. You need Photoshop 22 to be able to use it.

Here is their news release describing the plugin, called "Even the Hubble Space Telescope team from NASA and ESA uses APF-R"



clear skies


Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

Oops:



On Fri., Jan. 7, 2022, 1:43 a.m. Randy Legault, <randy.legault@...> wrote:
Tank mirror bino mount:



On Fri., Jan. 7, 2022, 1:33 a.m. Randy Legault via , <randy.legault=[email protected]> wrote:
I apologize for the lengthy, pedantic response.? I did not have time to write a shorter one :-)? - hat-tip . Pascal

Before buying either binos or scope, read the perennial articles in the RASC Observer's Handbook on binoculars and telescopes. A book with seasonal charts can help teach Eliza her constellations and asterisms.? Resources on how to use star-hopping techniques to find targets also useful.

I am pretty sure the Ottawa Rasc scope library has an Edmonds Astroscan knock-off and if you like this idea you may find one through Astromart.? This one sold 6 years ago for under $150. They are pretty rare these days.

?.

A good set of binoculars 7 x 50 or 10 x 50 are a? fine choice (the bigger second number is the objective lens size in mm - 50 or more is best)? ?The bigger that number, the more contrast and brightness - GOOD, and the bigger and heavier the binos BAD.? ?Fully multicoated is strongly preferred.??

Binos work well and are very affordable but, may be too heavy for Eliza.? With a mirror mount or support binos are definitely a strong choice for a beginner allowing sightings of, the moon, planets, Jovian moons, clusters,? very bright nebulae, some double-stars (split) and the Andomeda Galaxy.? Oh, and orders of magnitude more stars, in general.? I haven't used digitally stabilized binos, but imagine it would help -- at a price.?

Google "astro binocular stabilizer wood diy"? for a variety of ways to really enhance the astro binocular experience. with a little craft work..

Aside: I made a bino mirror mount based on a simple plan using a "first surface" plate glass mirror cut from an old rear-projection tv.? I had it cut into 11 smallish rextangles.? I still have a couple with small defects in a drawer somewhere.? It is a cottage crowd pleaser and good for all ages.??

Thicker first surface mirrors are better and sometimes available online as scrap from military tank viewports.? Optical suppliers sell lazer bounce mirrors that work as well, but I digress --at length.



Clear Skies,

Randy


On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 6:17 p.m. Richard Hum, <hum.richard@...> wrote:
What about the library's Orion Starblast telescopes? They are fairly kid friendly if there's an adult to operate it.?

Richard

On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 17:57 Attilla Danko, <danko@...> wrote:
Tough problem. I'm not sure any non-toy telescope is appropriate for a
6-year old.

Anyone have enough experience with this one to recommend it?
<>


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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Richard McDonald
<richard@...> wrote:
>
> This just came in to the webmaster email at our web site.? Would anyone care to reply?? Note this is not on the mailing list - a reply will have to be sent direct (I suggest cc¡¯ing the list).
> - Richard
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
> Subject: Telescope for Eliza
> Date: January 6, 2022 at 12:12:18 AM EST
> To: "webmaster@..." <webmaster@...>
> Reply-To: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
>
> Hello,
>
> My daughter, Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space.
>
> Where in Ottawa can we please find affordable telescopes or used?!
>
> Thank you kindly in advance for your response.
>
> Sylvie
> 613 862 3557
>
>
>






Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

Tank mirror bino mount:



On Fri., Jan. 7, 2022, 1:33 a.m. Randy Legault via , <randy.legault=[email protected]> wrote:
I apologize for the lengthy, pedantic response.? I did not have time to write a shorter one :-)? - hat-tip . Pascal

Before buying either binos or scope, read the perennial articles in the RASC Observer's Handbook on binoculars and telescopes. A book with seasonal charts can help teach Eliza her constellations and asterisms.? Resources on how to use star-hopping techniques to find targets also useful.

I am pretty sure the Ottawa Rasc scope library has an Edmonds Astroscan knock-off and if you like this idea you may find one through Astromart.? This one sold 6 years ago for under $150. They are pretty rare these days.

?.

A good set of binoculars 7 x 50 or 10 x 50 are a? fine choice (the bigger second number is the objective lens size in mm - 50 or more is best)? ?The bigger that number, the more contrast and brightness - GOOD, and the bigger and heavier the binos BAD.? ?Fully multicoated is strongly preferred.??

Binos work well and are very affordable but, may be too heavy for Eliza.? With a mirror mount or support binos are definitely a strong choice for a beginner allowing sightings of, the moon, planets, Jovian moons, clusters,? very bright nebulae, some double-stars (split) and the Andomeda Galaxy.? Oh, and orders of magnitude more stars, in general.? I haven't used digitally stabilized binos, but imagine it would help -- at a price.?

Google "astro binocular stabilizer wood diy"? for a variety of ways to really enhance the astro binocular experience. with a little craft work..

Aside: I made a bino mirror mount based on a simple plan using a "first surface" plate glass mirror cut from an old rear-projection tv.? I had it cut into 11 smallish rextangles.? I still have a couple with small defects in a drawer somewhere.? It is a cottage crowd pleaser and good for all ages.??

Thicker first surface mirrors are better and sometimes available online as scrap from military tank viewports.? Optical suppliers sell lazer bounce mirrors that work as well, but I digress --at length.



Clear Skies,

Randy


On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 6:17 p.m. Richard Hum, <hum.richard@...> wrote:
What about the library's Orion Starblast telescopes? They are fairly kid friendly if there's an adult to operate it.?

Richard

On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 17:57 Attilla Danko, <danko@...> wrote:
Tough problem. I'm not sure any non-toy telescope is appropriate for a
6-year old.

Anyone have enough experience with this one to recommend it?
<>


-ad

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Richard McDonald
<richard@...> wrote:
>
> This just came in to the webmaster email at our web site.? Would anyone care to reply?? Note this is not on the mailing list - a reply will have to be sent direct (I suggest cc¡¯ing the list).
> - Richard
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
> Subject: Telescope for Eliza
> Date: January 6, 2022 at 12:12:18 AM EST
> To: "webmaster@..." <webmaster@...>
> Reply-To: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
>
> Hello,
>
> My daughter, Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space.
>
> Where in Ottawa can we please find affordable telescopes or used?!
>
> Thank you kindly in advance for your response.
>
> Sylvie
> 613 862 3557
>
>
>






Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

I apologize for the lengthy, pedantic response.? I did not have time to write a shorter one :-)? - hat-tip . Pascal

Before buying either binos or scope, read the perennial articles in the RASC Observer's Handbook on binoculars and telescopes. A book with seasonal charts can help teach Eliza her constellations and asterisms.? Resources on how to use star-hopping techniques to find targets also useful.

I am pretty sure the Ottawa Rasc scope library has an Edmonds Astroscan knock-off and if you like this idea you may find one through Astromart.? This one sold 6 years ago for under $150. They are pretty rare these days.

?.

A good set of binoculars 7 x 50 or 10 x 50 are a? fine choice (the bigger second number is the objective lens size in mm - 50 or more is best)? ?The bigger that number, the more contrast and brightness - GOOD, and the bigger and heavier the binos BAD.? ?Fully multicoated is strongly preferred.??

Binos work well and are very affordable but, may be too heavy for Eliza.? With a mirror mount or support binos are definitely a strong choice for a beginner allowing sightings of, the moon, planets, Jovian moons, clusters,? very bright nebulae, some double-stars (split) and the Andomeda Galaxy.? Oh, and orders of magnitude more stars, in general.? I haven't used digitally stabilized binos, but imagine it would help -- at a price.?

Google "astro binocular stabilizer wood diy"? for a variety of ways to really enhance the astro binocular experience. with a little craft work..

Aside: I made a bino mirror mount based on a simple plan using a "first surface" plate glass mirror cut from an old rear-projection tv.? I had it cut into 11 smallish rextangles.? I still have a couple with small defects in a drawer somewhere.? It is a cottage crowd pleaser and good for all ages.??

Thicker first surface mirrors are better and sometimes available online as scrap from military tank viewports.? Optical suppliers sell lazer bounce mirrors that work as well, but I digress --at length.



Clear Skies,

Randy


On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 6:17 p.m. Richard Hum, <hum.richard@...> wrote:
What about the library's Orion Starblast telescopes? They are fairly kid friendly if there's an adult to operate it.?

Richard

On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 17:57 Attilla Danko, <danko@...> wrote:
Tough problem. I'm not sure any non-toy telescope is appropriate for a
6-year old.

Anyone have enough experience with this one to recommend it?
<>


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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Richard McDonald
<richard@...> wrote:
>
> This just came in to the webmaster email at our web site.? Would anyone care to reply?? Note this is not on the mailing list - a reply will have to be sent direct (I suggest cc¡¯ing the list).
> - Richard
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
> Subject: Telescope for Eliza
> Date: January 6, 2022 at 12:12:18 AM EST
> To: "webmaster@..." <webmaster@...>
> Reply-To: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
>
> Hello,
>
> My daughter, Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space.
>
> Where in Ottawa can we please find affordable telescopes or used?!
>
> Thank you kindly in advance for your response.
>
> Sylvie
> 613 862 3557
>
>
>






Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

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Re: Telescope for Eliza

 


On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 5:57 p.m. Attilla Danko, <danko@...> wrote:
Tough problem. I'm not sure any non-toy telescope is appropriate for a
6-year old.

Anyone have enough experience with this one to recommend it?
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Richard McDonald
<richard@...> wrote:
>
> This just came in to the webmaster email at our web site.? Would anyone care to reply?? Note this is not on the mailing list - a reply will have to be sent direct (I suggest cc¡¯ing the list).
> - Richard
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
> Subject: Telescope for Eliza
> Date: January 6, 2022 at 12:12:18 AM EST
> To: "webmaster@..." <webmaster@...>
> Reply-To: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
>
> Hello,
>
> My daughter, Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space.
>
> Where in Ottawa can we please find affordable telescopes or used?!
>
> Thank you kindly in advance for your response.
>
> Sylvie
> 613 862 3557
>
>
>






Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

I¡¯ve reviewed the Celestron Firstscope on my channel, solid little telescope for the price although I¡¯d recommend a better eyepiece for easier use (like a Plossi) especially for small kids.

It will get nice views of the moon, planets (depending on the eyepiece the planet¡¯s moons).

If you want DSO (even the bright ones) stepping up to a 5¡± table top Dobsonian might be advisable.

Regards,

Graeme



On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 PM Richard Harding <r.elleray.harding@...> wrote:
I am concerned ¡°Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space¡±. Any inexpensive scope that a 6 year could use, will only be good for the moon.

Richard ?
> On Jan 6, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Attilla Danko <danko@...> wrote:
>
> Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space





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Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

I am concerned ¡°Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space¡±. Any inexpensive scope that a 6 year could use, will only be good for the moon.

Richard ?

On Jan 6, 2022, at 5:57 PM, Attilla Danko <danko@...> wrote:

Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space


Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

It might be best to reply to Sylvie to borrow the library's Starblast
scope before buying one.

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 6:17 PM Richard Hum <hum.richard@...> wrote:

What about the library's Orion Starblast telescopes? They are fairly kid friendly if there's an adult to operate it.

Richard

On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 17:57 Attilla Danko, <danko@...> wrote:

Tough problem. I'm not sure any non-toy telescope is appropriate for a
6-year old.

Anyone have enough experience with this one to recommend it?
<>


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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Richard McDonald
<richard@...> wrote:

This just came in to the webmaster email at our web site. Would anyone care to reply? Note this is not on the mailing list - a reply will have to be sent direct (I suggest cc¡¯ing the list).
- Richard

Begin forwarded message:

From: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
Subject: Telescope for Eliza
Date: January 6, 2022 at 12:12:18 AM EST
To: "webmaster@..." <webmaster@...>
Reply-To: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>

Hello,

My daughter, Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space.

Where in Ottawa can we please find affordable telescopes or used?!

Thank you kindly in advance for your response.

Sylvie
613 862 3557






Re: Telescope for Eliza

 

What about the library's Orion Starblast telescopes? They are fairly kid friendly if there's an adult to operate it.?

Richard

On Thu., Jan. 6, 2022, 17:57 Attilla Danko, <danko@...> wrote:
Tough problem. I'm not sure any non-toy telescope is appropriate for a
6-year old.

Anyone have enough experience with this one to recommend it?
<>


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On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 7:45 AM Richard McDonald
<richard@...> wrote:
>
> This just came in to the webmaster email at our web site.? Would anyone care to reply?? Note this is not on the mailing list - a reply will have to be sent direct (I suggest cc¡¯ing the list).
> - Richard
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
> Subject: Telescope for Eliza
> Date: January 6, 2022 at 12:12:18 AM EST
> To: "webmaster@..." <webmaster@...>
> Reply-To: "Sylvie N." <sylvieuwera@...>
>
> Hello,
>
> My daughter, Eliza 6 years old, is interested in learning and seeing up close about everything in the space.
>
> Where in Ottawa can we please find affordable telescopes or used?!
>
> Thank you kindly in advance for your response.
>
> Sylvie
> 613 862 3557
>
>
>