#54732

Last week, I broke down and got hooked up for cable internet at my cabin in the woods because I want to be able to operate my station in the cabin remotely from home.? This I have been able to do using the free version of AnyDesk.

Now, the next step I want to automate is logging.? Prior to getting internet at the cabin, I had been maintaining two logs, each on separate computers: one at home and one at the cabin.? I synchronized the logs by exporting/importing ADIF files between the computers after each time I operated from one location or the other.

I know that ACLog supports networking via File Share or TCP/IP, but I have absolutely no experience networking, so have not tried to set up either option.? Then it occurred to me that there might be a third option that – in my mind at least – could also work: save my log file in the cloud using Microsoft 365 (which I already subscribe to) and then be able to access the data from whatever location I happen to be at the time; the cabin or at home.

I searched for info on whether this is feasible and found none, which leads me to suspect there is some fatal flaw in my brainstorm.

Am I wrong?? Can this be done?

#59040

Have you had a chance to try this out yet? I ask, because I run a mobile station using AC Log as well as my home station. I'm hoping to do the same thing using my OneDrive. In theory, as long as only one is writing to it at a time, it should work. But, I'm hoping someone else will be able to clarify that.

Have a great weekend. :)

Patrick.

#59048

I don't use OneDrive for this but I do use Google Drive to store my log files. I have 3 different computers that share the log files. I can't speak to OneDrive but Google Drive updates the log on the fly as well as when you close the log and it does a backup. At times I have 2 computers on line at the same time and I can refresh the logs and they are all in sync...

#59049

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Please read the list archives on one drive. It is a very intrusive thing once you enable it since all your private data ends up in the cloud. Further getting it turned off and getting data out of the cloud and back local only is very difficult. This of course is only my opinion and others may disagree but I will never use one drive for privacy and data ownership concerns….

Floyd KC5QBC

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On Jul 2, 2023, at 1:49 PM, Mark Paladino <32verdi32@...> wrote:

?I don't use OneDrive for this but I do use Google Drive to store my log files. I have 3 different computers that share the log files. I can't speak to OneDrive but Google Drive updates the log on the fly as well as when you close the log and it does a backup. At times I have 2 computers on line at the same time and I can refresh the logs and they are all in sync...

#59053

OneDrive is NEVER on my computers.? Not only is it so transparent that most folks don't realize their files are no longer on their local computers.? However, when one takes their laptop to do a demonstration in an area without access to the internet or as a POTA, SOTA or whatever OTA, they soon realize they have no log files, or sometimes other critical files on their laptops.? And if the Internet or your home network is down, you are without your files as well.? An easy way to test your setup is to disconnect the LAN cable and turn off WiFi and see what's now broken, then fix it.??

Some friends, once they realize this is to download all their OneDrive files to some new folder on their computer.? Then change the OneDrive password so their computer can no longer access the "cloud" and then put the files in the proper LOCAL folder.? Remember OneDrive gives M$ the ability to scan all your documents easily.??

The solution I found for these OneDrive users was to install any software that uses the "Documents" folder to store things is to create a new folder and install files there instead.? OneDrive does not mess with them -- so far.? I wish that Scott would realize this problem and put his master directory automatically in a folder outside the Documents folder so that they would be stored on the device directly.? His software was started before OneDrive invaded our lives.??

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George - WB5JJJ
Hams over IP #100105

#59054

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Just to be clear, I’m totally aware of what OneDrive is and what Microsoft does. And, in my case, I don’t do POTA/SOTA, at least not yet. I’ve used Google Drive, Mozy, and OneDrive for my cloud backups. While I respect your opinion (and have avoided all Microsoft products for a while in the past), it didn’t answer my question. I’ve had computers completely crash, along with hard drives and thumb drives that completely crashed. The only thing that saved my data was the fact that the “Documents” folder was also uploaded to OneDrive. I could copy the log to my laptop and then work with it on the fly. But then I’ll have to either export the log as an adif file and import it back in to my desktop, or copy the updated version to my desktop and overwrite the log that’s there. It seems like a lot of extra work just to avoid Microsoft having access to my QSO’s. So, I’ll continue to do what I’m trying to do.

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Have a great weekend and safe 4^th. ?
Patrick.

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Also, you can go into OneDrive’s settings and uncheck the “Documents” folder if you really don’t want it to be uploaded to the cloud.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of WB5JJJ - George
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Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] "Networking" via Microsoft 365? #aclog

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OneDrive is NEVER on my computers.? Not only is it so transparent that most folks don't realize their files are no longer on their local computers.? However, when one takes their laptop to do a demonstration in an area without access to the internet or as a POTA, SOTA or whatever OTA, they soon realize they have no log files, or sometimes other critical files on their laptops.? And if the Internet or your home network is down, you are without your files as well.? An easy way to test your setup is to disconnect the LAN cable and turn off WiFi and see what's now broken, then fix it.??

Some friends, once they realize this is to download all their OneDrive files to some new folder on their computer.? Then change the OneDrive password so their computer can no longer access the "cloud" and then put the files in the proper LOCAL folder.? Remember OneDrive gives M$ the ability to scan all your documents easily.??

The solution I found for these OneDrive users was to install any software that uses the "Documents" folder to store things is to create a new folder and install files there instead.? OneDrive does not mess with them -- so far.? I wish that Scott would realize this problem and put his master directory automatically in a folder outside the Documents folder so that they would be stored on the device directly.? His software was started before OneDrive invaded our lives.??

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73's
George - WB5JJJ
Hams over IP #100105

Virus-free.

#59057

Hopefully this doesn't devolve into the usual "Windows 11 is bad. OneDrive is bad." discussion. If you don't like them, then turn the VFO and don't use them. You know what they say about opinions.

I searched for info on whether this is feasible and found none, which leads me to suspect there is some fatal flaw in my brainstorm.

It can work, but it can cause problems. OneDrive versioning, which is basically SharePoint versioning, is better than it used to be but you can occasionally still get conflicts. Multiple computers on at the same time probably won't be an issue. But accidentally run multiple copies of a logger at the same time? Things could get weird fast.?

I run N3FJP loggers out of OneDrive and have had zero issues, but I never accidentally leave it open on one computer when I'm using another. I don't run N1MM out of OneDrive because it won't let me.

Andre, Wt9X