Fred:
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Jim is correct.?? Go into the top banner menu of ACLog, and choose FILE -> SHOW FILE LOCATIONS.?? This will open a dialog box showing the location of logs and file, and also the path to the current log that is being used (which may not be the one you desire).? Notice that there is a backup directory there, with multiple copies of your log file.? On most windows systems, all of this will be under path? C:\Users\<your name>\Documents\Affirmatech\N3FJP Software\???????? unless you, or something else, moved it.
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Another point for possible debug:??? Did the Windows update turn on OneDrive?? Or did it get enabled recently???? A year ago on my computer, one drive turned on and suddenly
all the files in my DOCUMENTS folder were vanishing and getting moved to the OneDrive cloud online.?? It took a little work to reverse this, restore my files, turn off and remove
OneDrive, and curse at MickeySoft for the 449723065843th? time!??
And, as Scott already pointed out, even if you do not perform backups on your computer, and even if the above steps do not find where your actual log file is, you can simply download from LOTW to restore those QSOs.
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I can assure you that this is not a flaw in ACLog;? Something or someone has changes where your main log file is at, or else someone accidentally messed with menu FILE -> NEW or else FILE -> OPEN, but that is less likely.? Either way, checking the FILE -> SHOW FILE LOCATIONS,?? then checking the contents of C:\Users\<your name>\Documents\Affirmatech\N3FJP Software\ ? (or whatever show file locations says), and then checking if OneDrive emptied your Documents folder are some of the first simple diagnostic steps.
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Let us know what you find.
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Neal
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Thank you Jim,
I am still waiting to hear from Scott to answer my question on the easiest wag to restore my QSOs.
73,
Fred
On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 2:22 PM, Jim Shorney via groups.io <jimNU0C@...> wrote:
Fred,
I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for.
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"Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote:
> QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
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-Jim
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Fred, I agree in principle. But this is Windows. I am an award chaser and have over 26,000 QSLs in ACL dating back to 1999. I have used ACL from the very early days to the the current version and have never lost any records to my knowledge. I think the first thing I would do is go into File > Show File Locations and see if the path to your log file has changed. Newer versions of Windows can do strange things (I'm looking at YOU, Onedrive). You could also have Windows to a brute force search for *.mdb files on your hard drive. It may also turn up data files from other programs but it should be obvious which ones are your log. The largest file with the most recent date should be the one you are looking for. On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:02:09 +0000 (UTC) "Fred W3ICM via groups.io" <BlaineFred@...> wrote: QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update. -- 73 -Jim NU0C
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Agreed.? But my point is that if it were a flaw in Scott’s program, there would be several reports or more by now.? What we are seeing here is a single instance of a problem.? Simple logic says this is not an N3FJP program problem, it is a Fred’s computer alone problem.
It doesn’t help you fix the problem.? But at least it will keep you from wrongly fixing the blame.? Or are you insisting that Scott’s program did this to your computer alone out of the thousands using AC-Log?
To err is human.? To really foul it up takes a computer. ? Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC. El Paso, Texas - DM61rt. SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager. ? ? ? ? ?
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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2025 8:02 AM
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Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Missing QSOs? Thank you Mike. QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
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On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 9:05 AM, Mike Olbrisch <mike-2025@...> wrote: WOW – this is scary Scott and Fred.? But I need to say it, I don’t even know how long I’ve been using AC-Log…… my log goes back to 1990 digitally.? I have paper logs back to the 1970, but I’m not interested in typing it all in.
In all of these years, there was only one time I had a problem with an update.? Do you remember that, Scott?? I was the lone issue getting a major new update to run, I think it was from 3.x to 4.x.? And the issue was with MY COMPUTER, I was missing a FONT that somehow AC-Log didn’t like.? Without your expert help, I would have been using the older version until I bought a new computer.? All over a stupid missing font!
I feel sorry for Fred.? I know first-hand how frustrating it is to have computer issues.? Computers are magical, and I’m not a magician.? But if it was a flaw in your program there would have been several reports of it by now.? Even so, this is why we do a good back up weekly.? Every Sunday morning, upload to LoTW, download the new LoTW users file, download a new Country List, download the LoTW upload for confirmations, transfer LoTW to QRZ, download QRZ, and then MAKE A BACKUP in the computer and to a thumb drive. ? Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC. El Paso, Texas - DM61rt. SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager. ? ? ? ? ? ? Thanks for your follow up.? I'm sorry that you are still having trouble.? Losing log data on an update is obviously not typical.? Your log data is not touched during an update, so something else is at play. There isn't anything difficult in any of the recovery methods I referenced in my previous reply, so choose the one easiest for you, provided it has the most current data.?? If your LoTW uploads are current, doing an All Since download from AC Log's LoTW form dated to 1/1/2024 is probably the easiest.? It may take a while to complete depending on the number of records and how busy the LoTW server is, but just let the program run while you are doing something else and it will finish. Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997. 1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect... On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 11:51:09 PM EDT, Fred W3ICM via groups.io <blainefred@...> wrote: I find that all of my QSOs from 2024 and 2025 have disappeared.? ? That should never have happened because of a software update.? ?I consider it a software flaw.? There should have been a smooth transition to the updated software. I read the restoration material in the link that you provided.?? What is the easiest approach to restore the maybe 20,000 QSOs from 2024 and 2025? On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 03:05:07 PM EDT, Scott Davis via groups.io <snkdavis@...> wrote: Thanks for your e-mail.? I'm sorry that you ran into trouble.? The most likely cause is that when your PC did the update, it reverted to a previous restore point prior to 2025? You can restore from backup or your LoTW uploads as detailed here: Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997. 1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect... On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 02:52:24 PM EDT, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote: TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
? ? This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD. I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ? I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained. Would appreciate? help or advice.
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Thank you Mike.
I upload daily to ClubLog and LoTW, sometimes several times during the day, depending on the number of QSOs,?and when I work a DXpedition where I want to see an immediate?match on ClubLog, e.g., VU4AX.
But ACL is my QSO record. ?I am into the DX Marathon Challenge, an annual competition so I need accurate data.?The ACL Awards feature provides?the annual data on the number of countries and zones in each band. Very helpful. ?But it’s useless if many QSOs are missing.
The DX Marathon Challenge (this is not the ARRL Challenge)?requires that I upload my 2025 QSOs to their website at the end of the year. ?Thus it’s critical that I have all of my 2025?data.
The ACL record also helps me to avoid duplicating past QSOs.
I didn’t know that I had missing QSO data until I was going to QSO CP6UA on 40 meters. I wanted to check past QSOs because I didn’t want to waste my time with another QSO. ?So I entered the call into the call slot that results in a record of the past QSOs. ?I knew that I had a ?QSO with him on 10 meters earlier this year. The 10 meter QSO did not show up, leading me to investigate further, discovering that all of my?2025 QSOs disappeared. ?AND manyM?QSOs from 2024 are gone.?
QSOs should NEVER disappear from a software update.
73,
Fred W3ICM
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On Sunday, March 16, 2025, 9:05 AM, Mike Olbrisch <mike-2025@...> wrote: WOW – this is scary Scott and Fred.? But I need to say it, I don’t even know how long I’ve been using AC-Log…… my log goes back to 1990 digitally.? I have paper logs back to the 1970, but I’m not interested in typing it all in.
In all of these years, there was only one time I had a problem with an update.? Do you remember that, Scott?? I was the lone issue getting a major new update to run, I think it was from 3.x to 4.x.? And the issue was with MY COMPUTER, I was missing a FONT that somehow AC-Log didn’t like.? Without your expert help, I would have been using the older version until I bought a new computer.? All over a stupid missing font!
I feel sorry for Fred.? I know first-hand how frustrating it is to have computer issues.? Computers are magical, and I’m not a magician.? But if it was a flaw in your program there would have been several reports of it by now.? Even so, this is why we do a good back up weekly.? Every Sunday morning, upload to LoTW, download the new LoTW users file, download a new Country List, download the LoTW upload for confirmations, transfer LoTW to QRZ, download QRZ, and then MAKE A BACKUP in the computer and to a thumb drive.
? Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC. El Paso, Texas - DM61rt. SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager. ? ? ? ? ? ? Thanks for your follow up.? I'm sorry that you are still having trouble.? Losing log data on an update is obviously not typical.? Your log data is not touched during an update, so something else is at play. There isn't anything difficult in any of the recovery methods I referenced in my previous reply, so choose the one easiest for you, provided it has the most current data.?? If your LoTW uploads are current, doing an All Since download from AC Log's LoTW form dated to 1/1/2024 is probably the easiest.? It may take a while to complete depending on the number of records and how busy the LoTW server is, but just let the program run while you are doing something else and it will finish. Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997. 1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect... On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 11:51:09 PM EDT, Fred W3ICM via groups.io <blainefred@...> wrote: I find that all of my QSOs from 2024 and 2025 have disappeared.? ? That should never have happened because of a software update.? ?I consider it a software flaw.? There should have been a smooth transition to the updated software. I read the restoration material in the link that you provided.?? What is the easiest approach to restore the maybe 20,000 QSOs from 2024 and 2025? On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 03:05:07 PM EDT, Scott Davis via groups.io <snkdavis@...> wrote: Thanks for your e-mail.? I'm sorry that you ran into trouble.? The most likely cause is that when your PC did the update, it reverted to a previous restore point prior to 2025? You can restore from backup or your LoTW uploads as detailed here: Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997. 1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect... On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 02:52:24 PM EDT, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote: TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
? ? This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD. I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ? I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained. Would appreciate? help or advice.
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WOW – this is scary Scott and Fred.? But I need to say it, I don’t even know how long I’ve been using AC-Log…… my log goes back to 1990 digitally.? I have paper logs back to the 1970, but I’m not interested in typing it all in.
In all of these years, there was only one time I had a problem with an update.? Do you remember that, Scott?? I was the lone issue getting a major new update to run, I think it was from 3.x to 4.x.? And the issue was with MY COMPUTER, I was missing a FONT that somehow AC-Log didn’t like.? Without your expert help, I would have been using the older version until I bought a new computer.? All over a stupid missing font!
I feel sorry for Fred.? I know first-hand how frustrating it is to have computer issues.? Computers are magical, and I’m not a magician.? But if it was a flaw in your program there would have been several reports of it by now.? Even so, this is why we do a good back up weekly.? Every Sunday morning, upload to LoTW, download the new LoTW users file, download a new Country List, download the LoTW upload for confirmations, transfer LoTW to QRZ, download QRZ, and then MAKE A BACKUP in the computer and to a thumb drive.
? Vy73 - Mike - KD5KC. El Paso, Texas - DM61rt. SOTA W5T-Texas Association Manager. ? ? ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Scott Davis via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2025 4:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N3FJPSoftwareUsers] Missing QSOs? Thanks for your follow up.? I'm sorry that you are still having trouble.? Losing log data on an update is obviously not typical.? Your log data is not touched during an update, so something else is at play. There isn't anything difficult in any of the recovery methods I referenced in my previous reply, so choose the one easiest for you, provided it has the most current data.?? If your LoTW uploads are current, doing an All Since download from AC Log's LoTW form dated to 1/1/2024 is probably the easiest.? It may take a while to complete depending on the number of records and how busy the LoTW server is, but just let the program run while you are doing something else and it will finish. Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997. 1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect... On Saturday, March 15, 2025 at 11:51:09 PM EDT, Fred W3ICM via groups.io <blainefred@...> wrote: I find that all of my QSOs from 2024 and 2025 have disappeared.? ? That should never have happened because of a software update.? ?I consider it a software flaw.? There should have been a smooth transition to the updated software. I read the restoration material in the link that you provided.?? What is the easiest approach to restore the maybe 20,000 QSOs from 2024 and 2025? On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 03:05:07 PM EDT, Scott Davis via groups.io <snkdavis@...> wrote: Thanks for your e-mail.? I'm sorry that you ran into trouble.? The most likely cause is that when your PC did the update, it reverted to a previous restore point prior to 2025? You can restore from backup or your LoTW uploads as detailed here: Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997. 1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect... On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 02:52:24 PM EDT, Dave Garber via groups.io <ve3wej@...> wrote: TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
? ? This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD. I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ? I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained. Would appreciate? help or advice.
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Hi Fred,
Thanks for your follow up.? I'm sorry that you are still having trouble.? Losing log data on an update is obviously not typical.? Your log data is not touched during an update, so something else is at play.
There isn't anything difficult in any of the recovery methods I referenced in my previous reply, so choose the one easiest for you, provided it has the most current data.??
If your LoTW uploads are current, doing an All Since download from AC Log's LoTW form dated to 1/1/2024 is probably the easiest.? It may take a while to complete depending on the number of records and how busy the LoTW server is, but just let the program run while you are doing something else and it will finish.
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
Thank you, Scott.
I find that all of my QSOs from 2024 and 2025 have disappeared.? ?
That should never have happened because of a software update.? ?I consider it a software flaw.? There should have been a smooth transition to the updated software.
I read the restoration material in the link that you provided.??
What is the easiest approach to restore the maybe 20,000 QSOs from 2024 and 2025?
73
Fred W3ICM
Hi Fred,
Thanks for your e-mail.? I'm sorry that you ran into trouble.? The most likely cause is that when your PC did the update, it reverted to a previous restore point prior to 2025.? You can restore from backup or your LoTW uploads as detailed here:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
Hello,
This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD.
I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ?
I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained.
Would appreciate? help or advice.
73
Fred
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Thank you, Scott.
I find that all of my QSOs from 2024 and 2025 have disappeared.? ?
That should never have happened because of a software update.? ?I consider it a software flaw.? There should have been a smooth transition to the updated software.
I read the restoration material in the link that you provided.??
What is the easiest approach to restore the maybe 20,000 QSOs from 2024 and 2025?
73
Fred W3ICM
Hi Fred,
Thanks for your e-mail.? I'm sorry that you ran into trouble.? The most likely cause is that when your PC did the update, it reverted to a previous restore point prior to 2025.? You can restore from backup or your LoTW uploads as detailed here:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
Hello,
This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD.
I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ?
I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained.
Would appreciate? help or advice.
73
Fred
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Re: Spots I start Were Working
Tony,
Some spotting networks are now requiring you to be a registered user or even have a password to log in to make spots. Maybe that had something to do with it. The two nodes I use now require it and one even requires a login password.
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Fred
K2DFC
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Thanks so much for your good report, kind words and continued support Tony!
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
I think I fixed it!
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I reconfig'd my DX Spot page to a different Spot Network.
Then reconfig'd back to the original.
It now works....
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...and Scott-n-Family - Thanks Again fer a GREAT set of programs!
As this is a new year, I'll be making my yearly contribution....
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TNX-n-73's fer now....
KF6JS - Tony
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Re: Spots I start Were Working
I think I fixed it!
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I reconfig'd my DX Spot page to a different Spot Network.
Then reconfig'd back to the original.
It now works....
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...and Scott-n-Family - Thanks Again fer a GREAT set of programs!
As this is a new year, I'll be making my yearly contribution....
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TNX-n-73's fer now....
KF6JS - Tony
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Spots I start Were Working
Spots that I initiated were working.? I could use the SPOT LAST Left or Right-Click and I would see them a moment later on the Spot Network.
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Recently, that quit working.
I looked at the various config settings but did not find anything specific.
Did I change something OR does the Spot Network have an issue?
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If me…what could I have changed??
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Thanks fer any-n-all help!
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TNX-n-73's fer now....
KF6JS - Tony
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Hi Fred,
Thanks for your e-mail.? I'm sorry that you ran into trouble.? The most likely cause is that when your PC did the update, it reverted to a previous restore point prior to 2025.? You can restore from backup or your LoTW uploads as detailed here:
Enjoy!
73, Scott N3FJP
Serving the Amateur Radio community with contesting and general logging software since 1997.
1 Peter 3 vs 15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give . But do this with gentleness and respect...
TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
Hello,
This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD.
I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ?
I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained.
Would appreciate? help or advice.
73
Fred
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TRY DOING A SORT BY DATE...
Dave Garber VE3WEJ / VE3IE
Hello,
This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD.
I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ?
I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained.
Would appreciate? help or advice.
73
Fred
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Hello,
This is W3ICM, Fred, in MD.
I use the ACL, and I see that all of my 2025 QSOs, except for those today, have disappeared.? ?
I don't recall ,,,but there may have been a reminder box message to update which I did, but I would expect that all QSOs would be retained.
Would appreciate? help or advice.
73
Fred
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N3FJP Country Files - 12 March 2025
There are new country files for ACLog and related software by N3FJP.
To update the country files from the logging program menu, select:
Files -> Download Country Files From AD1C
You should download all three files. When done, you can re-start your
logging program.
Manual installation instructions are here:
Here are the release notes:
N3FJP Country Files - 12 March 2025
Version entity is Hungary, HA
Added Prefixes/Callsigns:
* EG60GURU is Spain, EA
* FO/F4LYI is Marquesas Is., FO/M
* GB2TSA is Scotland, GM/t
* KL7OF/7 is USA, K in CQ Zone 3, ITU Zone 6
* KT4XL is USA, K in CQ Zone 4, ITU Zone 8
* WP4ORZ and NS9I are both USA, K in CQ Zone 5, ITU Zone 8
* KZ7MFL and K6JPB are both Alaska, KL7
Removed Prefixes/Callsigns:
If you have any questions, send E-mail to Jim Reisert AD1C (at the
address below) or make a post to the N3FJP software users reflector.
73 - Jim AD1C
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Jim Reisert AD1C, <jjreisert at alum.mit.edu>,
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Echoing other's comments ..... I participated in the Wisconsin QSO Party (in-state).
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I worked one mobile rover 5 times during the day.? Four of those were on the same Band.? He was roving through various Counties and apparently could hear me pretty well.
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The software (using Super Check Partial) will complain and warn you when entering a previously worked Call.?
But once the new County was added, it was happy.
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Thanks for the response. I will attribute the error to the interuption in connection to the 7300 that occured.? I only operated phone, but noted after the fact that some entries were noted as PHN while others were SSB. Again maybe due to the interuption.
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Neal AB6G
Jim Shorney
Mike Olbrisch
Ken KN2D
Tony Yamin
Fred, W9KEY