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Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I didn¡¯t emphasize enough that if you are using stereo pair mic techniques, then polarity match matters. _______________________________________________ One technique for achieving "noise
By Richards · #35909 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
have multiple mics out there wired with "+" to Pin 3. It works but the absolute phase is obviously reversed. Hmmmm.... ________________________________________ No problem, JR. Just hold it
By Richards · #35908 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I forgot to mention that the kick drum was recorded on tape, so there was no comparison with an acoustic source.
By Jerry Lee Marcel · #35907 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Indeed for live sound polarity matters very much - whether what comes out of the speakers is in the same acoustic polarity can make a big difference. -Scott
By Scott Helmke · #35906 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
There have been a number of studies regarding teh audibility of phase and polarity. Regarding phase audibility, it's been shown that phase distorion could be heard when it changed significantly the
By Jerry Lee Marcel · #35905 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Goran: Appologies for using phase and polarity interchangeably. That is the way engineers I know carelessly use the terms. "So I would hazard to claim that the + sign should indicate to be connected
By Henry Spragens · #35904 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I would think the upper and lower heads of a snare drum would be? pretty good test but with the opposite expectation. The summed sound would be thicker if the two mics have opposite
By John Thaden · #35903 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
On a two-terminal electret capsule, + means hot (ie: not ground), and is usually the drain of the included FET. And as you say, it's connected to a resistor from the positive bias voltage. From my
By kennjava · #35902 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Jules Ryckebusch: What is + on a prepolarized condenser capsule ? Is it where the resistor going to the positive supply + should be connected ? Or is it the positive pressure applied to the diaphragm
By Goran Finnberg · #35901 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I just checked my Pin 3 SimpleP48 against my U87 and more scientifically, looked at the waveform from an impulse. Both show that Pin 3 for the "+"of the capsule provides the signal swinging positive
By Jules Ryckebusch · #35900 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I'm a little confused, myself... all the SP48 mics I've ever made have capsule + to XLR pin 3. A few years ago I went through all of my microphones (commercial and DIY), and all of my devices and
By Casey · #35899 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
One should keep in mind that phase is relative to a steady-state sinewave only, when polarity relates to just any signal.
By Jerry Lee Marcel · #35898 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Google this: "what is the 3 to 1 rule when dealing with microphones" The book by one of the founders of Electro-Voice, Inc "Lou Burroughs" Microphones: Design and Application Sagamore
By Goran Finnberg · #35897 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I just recorded a stereo file of my voice into the following two mics held close together - L is a TOA K4 cardioid true condenser stick mic, absolute stock, and R is a TSB140 electret cardioid mic
SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Henry Spragens, If I were to believe in the above gospel then there should not be any standard at all as regards polarity and stereo as we know it today would sound very weird indeed. Henry
By Goran Finnberg · #35895 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
So what happens if I have a mic with polarity reversed? Usually, nothing. If the mic is not paired with another one, for instance a soloist or individual drum mic, acoustic phasing is more or less
By Henry Spragens · #35894 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Henry Spragens: "Check polarity" https://musicproductionglossary.com/what-is-absolute-phase/ Is Polarity a Phase? It¡¯s important to keep the concepts of ¡°phase¡± and ¡°polarity¡± separate
By Goran Finnberg · #35893 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
I just do what I always do when finishing a mic. Hold it next to a ¡°store-bought¡± expensive mic, and check phase. Then I figure out why it works as it does if I was wrong, or congratulate myself
By Henry Spragens · #35892 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Jules Ryckebusch: https://musicproductionglossary.com/what-is-absolute-phase/ More correctly termed absolute polarity, What is Polarity? Polarity is a term used in the field of electronics to describe
By Goran Finnberg · #35891 ·
Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity
Wow, lightbulb moment for me on this one. You are correct. Now my conundrum. I have multiple mics out there wired with "+" to Pin 3. It works but the absolute phase is obviously reversed.
By Jules Ryckebusch · #35890 ·