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Re: SimpleP48 -- Polarity


 

I just checked my Pin 3 SimpleP48 against my U87 and more scientifically, looked at the waveform from an impulse. Both show that Pin 3 for the "+"of the capsule provides the signal swinging positive upon sound wave moving the diaphragm?in.? My thoughts here are that the polarity?of the electret film is such that its increase in voltage as the capacitance?goose?down results is opposite that of the bias voltage on the gate of the FET. I believe?Henry mentioned this.?

Jules

On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 4:23?PM Casey via <mbuilders=[email protected]> wrote:

I'm a little confused, myself... all the SP48 mics I've ever made have capsule + to XLR pin 3. A few years ago I went through all of my microphones (commercial and DIY), and all of my devices and preamps and 1/8" jacks and cameras and such, to confirm polarity on everything... I do a lot of stereo recording, mid/side, etc, so I needed to be sure, in order to avoid confusion and delays when mixing.

The only things that tested "wrong" were some PiP inputs (e.g. Zoom H4N PiP inputs are "inverted" polarity), an EV666 dynamic, my dbx RTA-M measurement mic, the 12AX7 stages on a tube amp project, and a few other minor things. All the SP48 mics tested as normal (i.e. matched all the commercial mics), which if I'm understanding this thread correctly should not be the case... ?

I just tested a SP48 mic again (against an AKG C-535-EB) and it seemed to be of correct polarity.

Looking back through all my old project schematics, it's always pin 3 to +... (with one exception, which is the RCA mod SP48, but my understanding is that that circuit is supposed to be reversed from normal.)

When testing polarity, I hold two mics right next to each other, make a deep "p" pop sound, and in the DAW confirm that the wavefront excursion for both mics is in the same direction.

Jules -- have you confirmed anything recently one way or the other?

-Casey

On 12/17/23 05:52, Jules Ryckebusch wrote:
Wow, lightbulb moment?for me on this one. You are correct. Now my conundrum. I have? multiple mics out there wired with "+" to Pin 3. It works but the absolute phase is?obviously reversed. Hmmmm....??

Jules

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:07?PM Jerry Lee Marcel <jerryleemarcel@...> wrote:

Think it over.
If capacitance increases, voltage goes down because C.V is constant.


Le 17/12/2023 ¨¤ 03:51, Jules Ryckebusch a ¨¦crit?:
Hmmm. ¡°When the air pressure rises, the capacitance increases, Vgs & FET current goes down¡±?My understanding is that when air pressure rise capacitance goes up and that as the charge on the capacitor can not change instantaneously the voltage goes up. ? Thus voltage across the Drain and Source goes down as it conducts more.? Love some insight on this here if I am looking at this incorrectly.?

Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch?

On Dec 16, 2023, at 19:28, Richard Lee <ricardo@...> wrote:

When the air pressure rises, the capacitance increases, Vgs & FET current goes down,


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Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch

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Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch

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