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Re: 5R8 Amateur club

 

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If we will have a 5th operator joining, perhaps she can help to speed up the process to get a call for that person.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 15:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Madagascar2022] 5R8 Amateur club

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Hello,

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Just for your information.

This morning I have send an email to my contact person of the amateur radio Club and told her that we postponed our trip to 5R8.

She asked me if she could help us with anything, I told here that is was not needed.

Our licenses are valid for 2022, so that is no problem.

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73 Ronald

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5R8 Amateur club

 

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Hello,

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Just for your information.

This morning I have send an email to my contact person of the amateur radio Club and told her that we postponed our trip to 5R8.

She asked me if she could help us with anything, I told here that is was not needed.

Our licenses are valid for 2022, so that is no problem.

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73 Ronald

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Shift plan

 

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In 10 periods each of us 4 turns.
and 2 long breaks
73 de
G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io <r.stuy1@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 11:49
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA
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Hallo team,

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I have the following proposal, let me know what you think about it.

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5 operators will be difficult with planning for shifts and so on.

Let¡¯s go with 6 operators, for example 3 DL¡¯s and 3 PA¡¯s.

We can setup 3 stations, we only have to think about daytime. We have now Hex-beam and DX-commander and no 3rd antenna for day-time.

We already have 3 stations (only 2 amplifiers).

So, we need 1 multiband vertical and 1 amplifier and we are ready for a 3rd station.

If Martin PA4WM is not coming we can ask Evert PA2KW or Johannes PA5X.

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But what do you think about my proposal?

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73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:35
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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OK i will wait?

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Holen Sie sich


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io <r.stuy1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 11:20:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hallo Guenter,

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I have just asked Martin. Today his management team will discuss his holidays.

If he don¡¯t have an answer today he will call them tomorrow morning.

Let¡¯s wait one more day.

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73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:00
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hi Ron

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gibt es Neuigkeiten zum 5. OP

ich k?nnte noch 2 oder 3 OP`s fragen

dl2hwa

dk5wl

dl2jrm

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73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

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This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

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As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

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Hello

5 OP`s and 2 stations that can works . I can make the shift plan for 5OP?s
If we go by 6 OP`s we can use 2 Stations. We do not need a 3rd?station.
It can be 1? of us will be sick and can not go, than we are 5 or 4 .
I think we should try 5 OP?s.
More OP`s, more problems.
5r is not a rare DX location. I think 3 stations are too much.
73 de
G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io <r.stuy1@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 11:49
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA
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Hallo team,

?

I have the following proposal, let me know what you think about it.

?

5 operators will be difficult with planning for shifts and so on.

Let¡¯s go with 6 operators, for example 3 DL¡¯s and 3 PA¡¯s.

We can setup 3 stations, we only have to think about daytime. We have now Hex-beam and DX-commander and no 3rd antenna for day-time.

We already have 3 stations (only 2 amplifiers).

So, we need 1 multiband vertical and 1 amplifier and we are ready for a 3rd station.

If Martin PA4WM is not coming we can ask Evert PA2KW or Johannes PA5X.

?

But what do you think about my proposal?

?

73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:35
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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OK i will wait?

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Holen Sie sich


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io <r.stuy1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 11:20:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hallo Guenter,

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I have just asked Martin. Today his management team will discuss his holidays.

If he don¡¯t have an answer today he will call them tomorrow morning.

Let¡¯s wait one more day.

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73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:00
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hi Ron

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gibt es Neuigkeiten zum 5. OP

ich k?nnte noch 2 oder 3 OP`s fragen

dl2hwa

dk5wl

dl2jrm

?

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

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This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

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As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

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Hallo team,

?

I have the following proposal, let me know what you think about it.

?

5 operators will be difficult with planning for shifts and so on.

Let¡¯s go with 6 operators, for example 3 DL¡¯s and 3 PA¡¯s.

We can setup 3 stations, we only have to think about daytime. We have now Hex-beam and DX-commander and no 3rd antenna for day-time.

We already have 3 stations (only 2 amplifiers).

So, we need 1 multiband vertical and 1 amplifier and we are ready for a 3rd station.

If Martin PA4WM is not coming we can ask Evert PA2KW or Johannes PA5X.

?

But what do you think about my proposal?

?

73 Ronald

?

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:35
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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OK i will wait?

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Holen Sie sich


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io <r.stuy1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 11:20:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hallo Guenter,

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I have just asked Martin. Today his management team will discuss his holidays.

If he don¡¯t have an answer today he will call them tomorrow morning.

Let¡¯s wait one more day.

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73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:00
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hi Ron

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gibt es Neuigkeiten zum 5. OP

ich k?nnte noch 2 oder 3 OP`s fragen

dl2hwa

dk5wl

dl2jrm

?

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

OK i will wait?

Holen Sie sich


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io <r.stuy1@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 11:20:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA
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Hallo Guenter,

?

I have just asked Martin. Today his management team will discuss his holidays.

If he don¡¯t have an answer today he will call them tomorrow morning.

Let¡¯s wait one more day.

?

73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:00
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hi Ron

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gibt es Neuigkeiten zum 5. OP

ich k?nnte noch 2 oder 3 OP`s fragen

dl2hwa

dk5wl

dl2jrm

?

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hallo Guenter,

?

I have just asked Martin. Today his management team will discuss his holidays.

If he don¡¯t have an answer today he will call them tomorrow morning.

Let¡¯s wait one more day.

?

73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Verzonden: woensdag 12 oktober 2022 11:00
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hi Ron

?

gibt es Neuigkeiten zum 5. OP

ich k?nnte noch 2 oder 3 OP`s fragen

dl2hwa

dk5wl

dl2jrm

?

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

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OK will do.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 11:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Hello Gerben

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A last try. Can you ask EA that we can get the flight via the app for 1050€ each. The same price like the internet travel agents.

If we must cancel one flight again than we get our refound direct from EA.

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73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:58
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù,

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I have asked several times if they could let me know what refund they paid to flugladen.de but the answer was that they can¡¯t see that. Not sure if they can¡¯t see it, but they most likely don¡¯t want to share that with us. I also had hoped that we could know what amount flugladen.de got back so we can discuss that with them, but unfortunately that is not possible.

My feeling is they got a lot more than just the €372.

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Regards,

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Gerben

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 10:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Gerben

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can you ask EA how mutch was the refund what get the Flugladen from EA.

Maybe they get more than 372€. We can not check that by ourself.

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

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Hello Gerben

A last try. Can you ask EA that we can get the flight via the app for 1050€ each. The same price like the internet travel agents.
If we must cancel one flight again than we get our refound direct from EA.

73 de
G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:58
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA
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³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù,

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I have asked several times if they could let me know what refund they paid to flugladen.de but the answer was that they can¡¯t see that. Not sure if they can¡¯t see it, but they most likely don¡¯t want to share that with us. I also had hoped that we could know what amount flugladen.de got back so we can discuss that with them, but unfortunately that is not possible.

My feeling is they got a lot more than just the €372.

?

Regards,

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Gerben

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 10:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

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Gerben

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can you ask EA how mutch was the refund what get the Flugladen from EA.

Maybe they get more than 372€. We can not check that by ourself.

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hi Ron

gibt es Neuigkeiten zum 5. OP
ich k?nnte noch 2 oder 3 OP`s fragen
dl2hwa
dk5wl
dl2jrm

73 de
G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA
?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù,

?

I have asked several times if they could let me know what refund they paid to flugladen.de but the answer was that they can¡¯t see that. Not sure if they can¡¯t see it, but they most likely don¡¯t want to share that with us. I also had hoped that we could know what amount flugladen.de got back so we can discuss that with them, but unfortunately that is not possible.

My feeling is they got a lot more than just the €372.

?

Regards,

?

Gerben

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2022 10:43
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

Gerben

?

can you ask EA how mutch was the refund what get the Flugladen from EA.

Maybe they get more than 372€. We can not check that by ourself.

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG


Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA

?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

I just wrote a message to Flugladen.,de asking them to pass on the refund from EA to us.

73 de

G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA
?

This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

 

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Erno, no problem.

I can understand all the confusions.

73 Ronald

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Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> Namens Ern? Ogonovszky via groups.io
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 23:09
Aan: [email protected]
Onderwerp: Re: [Madagascar2022] FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

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Hello Gerben & Ronald,

thank you for sharing the facts that I didn't know all of them. I was not right with my assumption. So excuse me again.

73, Ern?

Am 11.10.2022 um 20:16 schrieb Gerben A.Menting - PG5M:

Hi all,

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In addition to what Ronald already mentioned, here a couple of facts.

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  1. On Sunday morning I had a chat with Ronald and suggested we should already do the online check-in. Ronald suggested to do that for the whole team. So at 12:17 I received the boarding passes which I have directly sent to all of you.
  2. On Monday morning Ronald did his home test which was positive and therefore went to an official test center for the second test, which was also positive. After our (Ronald, G:unter and I) telephone call on Monday where we discussed the situation that we had to cancel, we agreed that ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù would contact the Hotel and I would contact the airline.
  3. After I got home, I had a call with Ethiopian Airlines who instructed me to send a mail to reservations@... to cancel our flight. I have also asked for a refund. I got soon after a confirmation that the flights were canceled and later I got a mail that refund was done to the travel agent. I have tried to find out what amount they refunded to flugladen.de but they cannot give that.
  4. I also tried to cancel the tickets at flugladen.de but could not do that as I did not book the tickets. Therefore I asked ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù to take action with flugladen.de which he did.
  5. Next I had to cancel my parking at FRA so I searched their web side what to see what the condition were. This is what I found:
    Sie k?nnen Ihre Buchung jederzeit bis zu 24 h vor dem Reservierungsbeginn kostenfrei stornieren, danach fallen Stornierungskosten in H?he von 50 % des Rechnungsbetrages an. Bei einer Stornierung nach Reservierungsbeginn erfolgt keine R¨¹ckerstattung.
    I clicked the link and in a few steps the refund was asked for. I was expecting only 50% refund as I was late with the cancelation, but to my surprise they refund the full amount (at least that is what I understand from the document I got later).

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So assuming that we knew already by Saturday or Sunday that we would cancel the flights makes no sense as I did the online check-in on Sunday morning. Why would Ronald go on Monday morning for a test if we had decided already on Saturday that we would cancel. In that case he should have tested already on Friday.

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Regards,

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Gerben

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Madagascar2022] FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

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This is the email from Gerben about the cancelation.

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Van: Gerber A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 16:14
Aan: PA3EWP <pa3ewp@...>
Onderwerp: Fwd: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

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Zoals je ziet is mijn parkeerplaats om 13 uur opgezegd.

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PG5M when on the move

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From: parken.mail@... <parken.mail@...>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022, 12:59
To: pg5m@... <pg5m@...>
Subject: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

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Diese E-Mail im Browser lesen

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Buchungscode:

B2LX6X

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                                                          Flughafen
                                                          Frankfurt

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Ihre Stornierung war erfolgreich

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Guten Tag Herr Menting,

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Rechnungssumme:

162,00

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Re: EA

 

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I have checked the flights on 21st Nov return on 03rd Dec. by EA app on my smartphone.
Price for 4 adults= 5021€ = 1255€ each no 5% discount. The 5% discount is around 62€ .
It is the same price like on the normal webside from EA.
By travel agent we get this flight for 1055€.

73 de
G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA
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This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: EA

 

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Gerben

can you ask EA how mutch was the refund what get the Flugladen from EA.
Maybe they get more than 372€. We can not check that by ourself.
73 de
G. Gassler
DL2AWG

Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> im Auftrag von Gerben A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2022 10:33
An: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Betreff: [Madagascar2022] EA
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This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


EA

 

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This is the latest from EA when I asked for a discount on our next booking:

?

As we can see on our system that your ticket is already refunded but, as your ticket had been purchased from travel agency, we couldn¡¯t find the refunded document on our system, Kindly contact your travel agency so that they can assist you accordingly.

?You can make a booking on line or using our mobile application and get discounted fare (up to 5%) . The link to Download the app is ; ?and also our website?


Re: FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

 

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That¡¯s OK Ern?.

?

Regards, Gerben

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ern? Ogonovszky via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 23:09
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Madagascar2022] FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

Hello Gerben & Ronald,

thank you for sharing the facts that I didn't know all of them. I was not right with my assumption. So excuse me again.

73, Ern?

Am 11.10.2022 um 20:16 schrieb Gerben A.Menting - PG5M:

Hi all,

?

In addition to what Ronald already mentioned, here a couple of facts.

?

  1. On Sunday morning I had a chat with Ronald and suggested we should already do the online check-in. Ronald suggested to do that for the whole team. So at 12:17 I received the boarding passes which I have directly sent to all of you.
  2. On Monday morning Ronald did his home test which was positive and therefore went to an official test center for the second test, which was also positive. After our (Ronald, G:unter and I) telephone call on Monday where we discussed the situation that we had to cancel, we agreed that ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù would contact the Hotel and I would contact the airline.
  3. After I got home, I had a call with Ethiopian Airlines who instructed me to send a mail to reservations@... to cancel our flight. I have also asked for a refund. I got soon after a confirmation that the flights were canceled and later I got a mail that refund was done to the travel agent. I have tried to find out what amount they refunded to flugladen.de but they cannot give that.
  4. I also tried to cancel the tickets at flugladen.de but could not do that as I did not book the tickets. Therefore I asked ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù to take action with flugladen.de which he did.
  5. Next I had to cancel my parking at FRA so I searched their web side what to see what the condition were. This is what I found:
    Sie k?nnen Ihre Buchung jederzeit bis zu 24 h vor dem Reservierungsbeginn kostenfrei stornieren, danach fallen Stornierungskosten in H?he von 50 % des Rechnungsbetrages an. Bei einer Stornierung nach Reservierungsbeginn erfolgt keine R¨¹ckerstattung.
    I clicked the link and in a few steps the refund was asked for. I was expecting only 50% refund as I was late with the cancelation, but to my surprise they refund the full amount (at least that is what I understand from the document I got later).

?

So assuming that we knew already by Saturday or Sunday that we would cancel the flights makes no sense as I did the online check-in on Sunday morning. Why would Ronald go on Monday morning for a test if we had decided already on Saturday that we would cancel. In that case he should have tested already on Friday.

?

Regards,

?

Gerben

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Madagascar2022] FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

This is the email from Gerben about the cancelation.

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Van: Gerber A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 16:14
Aan: PA3EWP <pa3ewp@...>
Onderwerp: Fwd: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

Zoals je ziet is mijn parkeerplaats om 13 uur opgezegd.

?

PG5M when on the move

?


From: parken.mail@... <parken.mail@...>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022, 12:59
To: pg5m@... <pg5m@...>
Subject: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

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Diese E-Mail im Browser lesen

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Buchungscode:

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Logo
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Ihre Stornierung war erfolgreich

?

?

?

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?

Guten Tag Herr Menting,

?

?

?

Ihren Stornierungsauftrag haben wir erhalten und Ihre Parkplatzbuchung wie gew¨¹nscht storniert. Die Gutschrift erfolgt gem?? der Allgemeinen Gesch?ftsbedingungen auf das bei der Buchung verwendete Zahlungsmittel.

?

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Ihre R¨¹ckzahlungs¨¹bersicht

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?

Rechnungssumme:

162,00

Stornierungskosten:

0,00

?

¸é¨¹³¦°ì³ú²¹³ó±ô³Ü²Ô²µ²õ²ú±ð³Ù°ù²¹²µ:

162,00

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Re: FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

 

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Hello Gerben & Ronald,

thank you for sharing the facts that I didn't know all of them. I was not right with my assumption. So excuse me again.

73, Ern?

Am 11.10.2022 um 20:16 schrieb Gerben A.Menting - PG5M:

Hi all,

?

In addition to what Ronald already mentioned, here a couple of facts.

?

  1. On Sunday morning I had a chat with Ronald and suggested we should already do the online check-in. Ronald suggested to do that for the whole team. So at 12:17 I received the boarding passes which I have directly sent to all of you.
  2. On Monday morning Ronald did his home test which was positive and therefore went to an official test center for the second test, which was also positive. After our (Ronald, G:unter and I) telephone call on Monday where we discussed the situation that we had to cancel, we agreed that ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù would contact the Hotel and I would contact the airline.
  3. After I got home, I had a call with Ethiopian Airlines who instructed me to send a mail to reservations@... to cancel our flight. I have also asked for a refund. I got soon after a confirmation that the flights were canceled and later I got a mail that refund was done to the travel agent. I have tried to find out what amount they refunded to flugladen.de but they cannot give that.
  4. I also tried to cancel the tickets at flugladen.de but could not do that as I did not book the tickets. Therefore I asked ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù to take action with flugladen.de which he did.
  5. Next I had to cancel my parking at FRA so I searched their web side what to see what the condition were. This is what I found:
    Sie k?nnen Ihre Buchung jederzeit bis zu 24 h vor dem Reservierungsbeginn kostenfrei stornieren, danach fallen Stornierungskosten in H?he von 50 % des Rechnungsbetrages an. Bei einer Stornierung nach Reservierungsbeginn erfolgt keine R¨¹ckerstattung.
    I clicked the link and in a few steps the refund was asked for. I was expecting only 50% refund as I was late with the cancelation, but to my surprise they refund the full amount (at least that is what I understand from the document I got later).

?

So assuming that we knew already by Saturday or Sunday that we would cancel the flights makes no sense as I did the online check-in on Sunday morning. Why would Ronald go on Monday morning for a test if we had decided already on Saturday that we would cancel. In that case he should have tested already on Friday.

?

Regards,

?

Gerben

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Madagascar2022] FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

This is the email from Gerben about the cancelation.

?

?

?

Van: Gerber A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 16:14
Aan: PA3EWP <pa3ewp@...>
Onderwerp: Fwd: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

Zoals je ziet is mijn parkeerplaats om 13 uur opgezegd.

?

PG5M when on the move

?


From: parken.mail@... <parken.mail@...>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022, 12:59
To: pg5m@... <pg5m@...>
Subject: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

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Diese E-Mail im Browser lesen

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?

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?

?

Buchungscode:

B2LX6X

Logo
                                                          Flughafen
                                                          Frankfurt

?

?

?

?

?

Ihre Stornierung war erfolgreich

?

?

?

?

?

Guten Tag Herr Menting,

?

?

?

Ihren Stornierungsauftrag haben wir erhalten und Ihre Parkplatzbuchung wie gew¨¹nscht storniert. Die Gutschrift erfolgt gem?? der Allgemeinen Gesch?ftsbedingungen auf das bei der Buchung verwendete Zahlungsmittel.

?

?

?

?

?

Ihre R¨¹ckzahlungs¨¹bersicht

?

?

?

Rechnungssumme:

162,00

Stornierungskosten:

0,00

?

¸é¨¹³¦°ì³ú²¹³ó±ô³Ü²Ô²µ²õ²ú±ð³Ù°ù²¹²µ:

162,00

?

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Haben Sie noch Fragen ?

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Schreiben Sie uns eine E-Mail

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parken.online@...

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Meistgestellte Fragen

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Wir w¨¹rden uns freuen, Sie bald bei uns am Flughafen Frankfurt begr¨¹?en zu d¨¹rfen!

?

?

Ihr Frankfurt Airport Parken Team

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Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail, da diese Adresse nur zur Versendung von E-Mails eingerichtet ist.

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Re: FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

Hi all,

?

In addition to what Ronald already mentioned, here a couple of facts.

?

  1. On Sunday morning I had a chat with Ronald and suggested we should already do the online check-in. Ronald suggested to do that for the whole team. So at 12:17 I received the boarding passes which I have directly sent to all of you.
  2. On Monday morning Ronald did his home test which was positive and therefore went to an official test center for the second test, which was also positive. After our (Ronald, G:unter and I) telephone call on Monday where we discussed the situation that we had to cancel, we agreed that ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù would contact the Hotel and I would contact the airline.
  3. After I got home, I had a call with Ethiopian Airlines who instructed me to send a mail to reservations@... to cancel our flight. I have also asked for a refund. I got soon after a confirmation that the flights were canceled and later I got a mail that refund was done to the travel agent. I have tried to find out what amount they refunded to flugladen.de but they cannot give that.
  4. I also tried to cancel the tickets at flugladen.de but could not do that as I did not book the tickets. Therefore I asked ³Ò¨¹²Ô³Ù±ð°ù to take action with flugladen.de which he did.
  5. Next I had to cancel my parking at FRA so I searched their web side what to see what the condition were. This is what I found:
    Sie k?nnen Ihre Buchung jederzeit bis zu 24 h vor dem Reservierungsbeginn kostenfrei stornieren, danach fallen Stornierungskosten in H?he von 50 % des Rechnungsbetrages an. Bei einer Stornierung nach Reservierungsbeginn erfolgt keine R¨¹ckerstattung.
    I clicked the link and in a few steps the refund was asked for. I was expecting only 50% refund as I was late with the cancelation, but to my surprise they refund the full amount (at least that is what I understand from the document I got later).

?

So assuming that we knew already by Saturday or Sunday that we would cancel the flights makes no sense as I did the online check-in on Sunday morning. Why would Ronald go on Monday morning for a test if we had decided already on Saturday that we would cancel. In that case he should have tested already on Friday.

?

Regards,

?

Gerben

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, 11 October 2022 17:38
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Madagascar2022] FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

This is the email from Gerben about the cancelation.

?

?

?

Van: Gerber A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 16:14
Aan: PA3EWP <pa3ewp@...>
Onderwerp: Fwd: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

Zoals je ziet is mijn parkeerplaats om 13 uur opgezegd.

?

PG5M when on the move

?


From: parken.mail@... <parken.mail@...>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022, 12:59
To: pg5m@... <pg5m@...>
Subject: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

?

?

Diese E-Mail im Browser lesen

?

?

?

?

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?

Buchungscode:

B2LX6X

Logo Flughafen Frankfurt

?

?

?

?

?

Ihre Stornierung war erfolgreich

?

?

?

?

?

Guten Tag Herr Menting,

?

?

?

Ihren Stornierungsauftrag haben wir erhalten und Ihre Parkplatzbuchung wie gew¨¹nscht storniert. Die Gutschrift erfolgt gem?? der Allgemeinen Gesch?ftsbedingungen auf das bei der Buchung verwendete Zahlungsmittel.

?

?

?

?

?

Ihre R¨¹ckzahlungs¨¹bersicht

?

?

?

Rechnungssumme:

162,00

Stornierungskosten:

0,00

?

¸é¨¹³¦°ì³ú²¹³ó±ô³Ü²Ô²µ²õ²ú±ð³Ù°ù²¹²µ:

162,00

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

Haben Sie noch Fragen ?

?

?

?

Schreiben Sie uns eine E-Mail

?

?

?

parken.online@...

?

?

?

Meistgestellte Fragen

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?

?

?

?

Wir w¨¹rden uns freuen, Sie bald bei uns am Flughafen Frankfurt begr¨¹?en zu d¨¹rfen!

?

?

Ihr Frankfurt Airport Parken Team

?

?

?

?

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Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail, da diese Adresse nur zur Versendung von E-Mails eingerichtet ist.

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Re: FW: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

 

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Hello Ronald,

thanks for the info. I can clearly see that the cancellation was on Monday. Sorry for the doubt. Cancellation conditions see last section in the attachement. Maybe Gerben had more luck.

My parking was reserved from 14:00 h. At 14:20 h I could not cancel our parking card.

Sorry again.

73, Ern?

Am 11.10.2022 um 17:37 schrieb Ronald PA3EWP via groups.io:

This is the email from Gerben about the cancelation.

?

?

?

Van: Gerber A.Menting - PG5M <pg5m@...>
Verzonden: dinsdag 11 oktober 2022 16:14
Aan: PA3EWP <pa3ewp@...>
Onderwerp: Fwd: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt

?

Zoals je ziet is mijn parkeerplaats om 13 uur opgezegd.

?

PG5M when on the move

?


From: parken.mail@... <parken.mail@...>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2022, 12:59
To: pg5m@... <pg5m@...>
Subject: Stornierung Ihrer Buchung B2LX6X - Parken am Flughafen Frankfurt



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Diese E-Mail im Browser lesen

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Buchungscode:

B2LX6X

Logo
                                                          Flughafen
                                                          Frankfurt

?

?

?

?

?

Ihre Stornierung war erfolgreich

?

?



?

?

Guten Tag Herr Menting,

?

?

?

Ihren Stornierungsauftrag haben wir erhalten und Ihre Parkplatzbuchung wie gew¨¹nscht storniert. Die Gutschrift erfolgt gem?? der Allgemeinen Gesch?ftsbedingungen auf das bei der Buchung verwendete Zahlungsmittel.

?

?

?

?

?

Ihre R¨¹ckzahlungs¨¹bersicht

?

?

?

Rechnungssumme:

162,00

Stornierungskosten:

0,00

?

¸é¨¹³¦°ì³ú²¹³ó±ô³Ü²Ô²µ²õ²ú±ð³Ù°ù²¹²µ:

162,00

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

Haben Sie noch Fragen ?

?

?

?

Schreiben Sie uns eine E-Mail

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?

parken.online@...

?

?

?

Meistgestellte Fragen

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?

?

?

?



?

?

?

Wir w¨¹rden uns freuen, Sie bald bei uns am Flughafen Frankfurt begr¨¹?en zu d¨¹rfen!

?

?

Ihr Frankfurt Airport Parken Team

?

?

?

?

?

Bitte antworten Sie nicht auf diese E-Mail, da diese Adresse nur zur Versendung von E-Mails eingerichtet ist.

?

?

?

?

?

?

?

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2022 Fraport AG Frankfurt Airport Services Worldwide

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?

?


Fraport AG Frankfurt Airport Services Worldwide, 60547 Frankfurt am Main, Sitz der Gesellschaft: Frankfurt am Main, Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main: HRB 7042, Umsatzsteuer-Identifikationsnummer: DE 114150623, Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Michael Boddenberg ¨C Hessischer Minister der Finanzen; Vorstand: Dr. Stefan Schulte (Vorsitzender), Anke Giesen, Dr. Pierre Dominique Pr¨¹mm, Prof. Dr. Matthias Zieschang