No problem, o1bigtenor. I want to know more about Ethercat also. Go ahead with the discussion! Does an Ethercat drive network directly to the PC, or is there still a motion control interface/card? ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of o1bigtenor Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2022 7:53 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 teach/record ? ? On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:15 AM Brian Barker <brianb@...> wrote: Hi Brian, We can use the ESS if you like. The motion card to me is a little transparent (mach 4 is hardware agnostic). As long as we can support the reading of encoders we can make this work. If we did Ethercat I could look at the current and make it basically a Cobot. We could sense the current and kill motion and stop on quickly increased loads.? May be a bit much for what your looking to do but we really can do anything ;)? . Closed loop steppers and an ESS with the encoders going back to the ESS so we can see the position, I think is about as good as it is going to get for a minimal investment. You will be able to move the bot to position manually (you will need to make some sort of way to counterbalance the Z axis) and teach it positions . Jogging for a use case like this just to slow. I want to move to position and hold the head where I would like to weld and press a button to set the positions to weld . Simple and fast is what I am looking for. This may just be me, but when I pick up a welder and start working I am not in the mood to be a programmer. When I am in welding mode I pull out the C clamps and hammers ;) CNC machine should be as useful, if not... it's a fail! ?
(I think I am getting confused as to 'which' Brian I am addressing but - - - ) I have only briefly looked into Ethercat.? Would you please direct me to some resources? so that I could better understand Ethercat,? including its benefits and negatives.? I have further questions on this - - - - maybe this should be broken into? a new thread? Argh - - - whatever - - - please for the info?
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 6:15 AM Brian Barker < brianb@...> wrote:
Hi Brian,
We can use the ESS if you like. The motion card to me is a little
transparent (mach 4 is hardware agnostic). As long as we can
support the reading of encoders we can make this work. If we did
Ethercat I could look at the current and make it basically a
Cobot. We could sense the current and kill motion and stop on
quickly increased loads.? May be a bit much for what your looking
to do but we really can do anything ;)? . Closed loop steppers and
an ESS with the encoders going back to the ESS so we can see the
position, I think is about as good as it is going to get for a
minimal investment. You will be able to move the bot to position
manually (you will need to make some sort of way to counterbalance
the Z axis) and teach it positions . Jogging for a use case like
this just to slow. I want to move to position and hold the head
where I would like to weld and press a button to set the positions
to weld . Simple and fast is what I am looking for. This may just
be me, but when I pick up a welder and start working I am not in
the mood to be a programmer. When I am in welding mode I pull out
the C clamps and hammers ;) CNC machine should be as useful, if
not... it's a fail!
Greetings
(I think I am getting confused as to 'which' Brian I am addressing but - - - )
I have only briefly looked into Ethercat.? Would you please direct me to some resources? so that I could better understand Ethercat,? including its benefits and negatives.?
I have further questions on this - - - - maybe this should be broken into? a new thread? Argh - - - whatever - - - please for the info?
TIA
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Hi Brian,
We can use the ESS if you like. The motion card to me is a little
transparent (mach 4 is hardware agnostic). As long as we can
support the reading of encoders we can make this work. If we did
Ethercat I could look at the current and make it basically a
Cobot. We could sense the current and kill motion and stop on
quickly increased loads.? May be a bit much for what your looking
to do but we really can do anything ;)? . Closed loop steppers and
an ESS with the encoders going back to the ESS so we can see the
position, I think is about as good as it is going to get for a
minimal investment. You will be able to move the bot to position
manually (you will need to make some sort of way to counterbalance
the Z axis) and teach it positions . Jogging for a use case like
this just to slow. I want to move to position and hold the head
where I would like to weld and press a button to set the positions
to weld . Simple and fast is what I am looking for. This may just
be me, but when I pick up a welder and start working I am not in
the mood to be a programmer. When I am in welding mode I pull out
the C clamps and hammers ;) CNC machine should be as useful, if
not... it's a fail!
Okay enough of me running at the mouth.. Time to work with the
boy and get this engine painted so he can rebuild his first engine
on his own. I figure a 1939 9N is a good simple start. I guess
looking at it I should be teaching him electric motors and how to
program a BMS... Never thought it would happen but I think I am
getting dated (Yeah, I didn't want to say old)
Thanks
Brian
______________________________
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Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 4:20 PM, Brian Martin
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I actually talked to Vectis about this
before I got my Cobot. It was still too far of a stretch for
the Cobot arm though. Also the cost vs. benefit ratio was too
low to do an overhead mount.
Actually Brian I am completely open at this
point as far as components. What motion card would you use,
will the smooth stepper work with encoders?
I like the idea of using ethernet, my
thought is to have the pc mounted on a wheeled work station
with a single cable to the machine.
?
Thank-you!
Brian Martin
?
?
?
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:45 AM Brian
Martin <bmm@...>
wrote:
Good
morning, I am looking for some advice and ideas for
a project I am brainstorming. I have built a couple
CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am
comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about
building a CNC welder for a production beam welding
job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z
plus at least1 rotary axis for the positioner,
possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall travel
would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z.
My
questions are;
- Has anybody built
something like this, that would have any
experiences to share?
- Is anyone using
Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there
a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow
me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to
programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I
recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR arm, so I
am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR
arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high
for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for
smaller intricate parts.
I've thought of running the Cobot on
a x-y sled? - - - maybe underslung to keep the crap out
of things.?
Then the rotary dimensions are
handled separately.?
Simple - - no - - - doable - - - I
think so.??
|
??? ??? Good deal !! . I really enjoyed my last profession for
probably the first 15 or so years , & after that I was just
sick & tired of the people I had to deal with ., but I always?
( well almost ) kept my ??? ??? ??? ??? cool . Passing on
knowledge is a pretty honorable trait in my book .
??? ??? thanks
??? ??? animal
On 2/21/2022 12:51 PM, Brian Barker
wrote:
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Jokes on you, I'm having fun ! LOL
It is true... Most people don't like what they do. I really
enjoy it, to the point that I am a coach for a local Robotics
team.
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 12:56 PM, mike allen
wrote:
??? ??? Now , there's a company with it's customers in mind
!!!!!
??? ??? Wish there were more like that .
??? ??? animal
On 2/21/2022 5:24 AM, Brian Barker
wrote:
Hi Brian,
I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my
mind! I have been dreaming about doing this and have some
ideas. I have most all the code and I have things that you
don't know about that we can use to help you with this
project. If you want to chat about this send me a message
off list and we can talk over the phone. I am in!
Thanks
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian
Martin wrote:
Good morning, I am looking for some
advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I
have built a couple CNC machines in the past using
Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am
thinking about building a CNC welder for a production
beam welding job that we do. I would like to control
X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for the
positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall
travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has
anybody built something like this, that would have any
experiences to share?
- Is
anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If
Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that
will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points
similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot
with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the
reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost
is too high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot
for smaller intricate parts.
?
Thank-you!
Brian Martin
?
|
I actually talked to Vectis about this before I got my Cobot. It was still too far of a stretch for the Cobot arm though. Also the cost vs. benefit ratio was too low to do an overhead mount. Actually Brian I am completely open at this point as far as components. What motion card would you use, will the smooth stepper work with encoders? I like the idea of using ethernet, my thought is to have the pc mounted on a wheeled work station with a single cable to the machine. ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of o1bigtenor Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 11:20 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 teach/record ? ? On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:45 AM Brian Martin <bmm@...> wrote: Good morning, I am looking for some advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z. My questions are; - Has anybody built something like this, that would have any experiences to share?
- Is anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate parts.
I've thought of running the Cobot on a x-y sled? - - - maybe underslung to keep the crap out of things.? Then the rotary dimensions are handled separately.? Simple - - no - - - doable - - - I think so.??
|
Jokes on you, I'm having fun ! LOL
It is true... Most people don't like what they do. I really enjoy
it, to the point that I am a coach for a local Robotics team.
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 12:56 PM, mike allen
wrote:
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??? ??? Now , there's a company with it's customers in mind
!!!!!
??? ??? Wish there were more like that .
??? ??? animal
On 2/21/2022 5:24 AM, Brian Barker
wrote:
Hi Brian,
I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my
mind! I have been dreaming about doing this and have some
ideas. I have most all the code and I have things that you
don't know about that we can use to help you with this
project. If you want to chat about this send me a message off
list and we can talk over the phone. I am in!
Thanks
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin
wrote:
Good morning, I am looking for some
advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have
built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS,
so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking
about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding
job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at
least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4
rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately,
144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has
anybody built something like this, that would have any
experiences to share?
- Is
anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If
Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that
will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points
similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot
with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach
of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too
high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller
intricate parts.
?
Thank-you!
Brian Martin
?
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My dream is to not need the Cobot... why because they are small
and lots of money. I dream of making some software that will do
the anything over 6" weld for me so I can drink my coffee and
watch it get sunburn. ;)
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 11:19 AM, o1bigtenor
wrote:
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On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:45
AM Brian Martin < bmm@...>
wrote:
Good morning, I am looking for some
advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I
have built a couple CNC machines in the past using
Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I
am thinking about building a CNC welder for a
production beam welding job that we do. I would like
to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for
the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total.
Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y,
x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has anybody built something
like this, that would have any experiences to share?
- Is anyone using Mach4 to run
a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there a plugin
or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to build
Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a
robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot
with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the
reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the
cost is too high for this job. I will keep using the
Cobot for smaller intricate parts.
I've thought of running the Cobot on a x-y sled? - - -
maybe underslung to keep the crap out of things.?
Then the rotary dimensions are handled separately.?
Simple - - no - - - doable - - - I think so.??
|
The Clear path motors are okay but I think the best ones to use
for this would be closed loop steppers! I know stepper and you
want to say NO! but hear me out. The Closed loop steppers are
really a 50 pole AC servo motors. We can read the encoder and use
that data for telling the machine where it is while your teaching
it. Not need for any real fancy drive! We can use a chain to move
the welding head. for all I care and direct drive off the stepper
motor. I have done machines like this in the past this way and
they work slick! The issue with the Clear path is that you will
have inertia mismatch and the motor will not be able to be tuned
properly (I have some here that I can't use for that reason). If
you don't want to use a closed loop stepper we can use a normal
stepper and I can watch the position of some Aux encoders and use
them to look for missed steps and for the teach function. Okay I
think that is me blowing off at the mouth long enough. I am such a
sucker for a cool project LOL
Thanks
Brian
______________________________
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Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 11:06 AM, Brian Martin
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Greeaat!! On my last mill I built I used
Clearpath servos. Is that a good option, or do you have
another favorite?
?
Thank-you!
Brian Martin
?
?
Cool, I have a welding bench here and a few welders I can
hook up for testing. I was thinking I would make something
that would mount to my table from weldtables.com . So if you
want to do this don't worry about the software side. We can
read the encoders and use that to program the motion... ALSO I
can move every axis as it is moving to get the machine where
the wield should be.
?
Thanks
Brian
?
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 10:09 AM, Brian Martin
wrote:
Thanks for the offer Brian. I will? be
looking into the design some more. At this point I only have
a vision. I will try to model what I want in Solidworks, and
figure out the motion/ linear bearing etc.. If the project
goes ahead, I will try to contact you.
?
Thank-you!
Brian
Martin
?
?
Hi Brian,
I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my
mind! I have been dreaming about doing this and have some
ideas. I have most all the code and I have things that you
don't know about that we can use to help you with this
project. If you want to chat about this send me a message
off list and we can talk over the phone. I am in!
Thanks
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin
wrote:
Good morning, I am looking for some
advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have
built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS,
so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking
about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding
job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at
least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4
rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately,
144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has
anybody built something like this, that would have any
experiences to share?
- Is
anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If
Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that
will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points
similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot
with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach
of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too
high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller
intricate parts.
?
Thank-you!
Brian
Martin
?
|
??? ??? Now , there's a company with it's customers in mind !!!!!
??? ??? Wish there were more like that .
??? ??? animal
On 2/21/2022 5:24 AM, Brian Barker
wrote:
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Hi Brian,
I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my mind!
I have been dreaming about doing this and have some ideas. I
have most all the code and I have things that you don't know
about that we can use to help you with this project. If you want
to chat about this send me a message off list and we can talk
over the phone. I am in!
Thanks
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin
wrote:
Good morning, I am looking for some
advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have
built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so
I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about
building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that
we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1
rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis
total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y,
x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has
anybody built something like this, that would have any
experiences to share?
- Is anyone
using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4,
is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow
me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to
programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with
UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the
UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for
this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate
parts.
?
Thank-you!
Brian Martin
?
|
On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:45 AM Brian Martin < bmm@...> wrote: Good morning, I am looking for some advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z. My questions are; - Has anybody built something like this, that would have any experiences to share?
- Is anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate parts.
I've thought of running the Cobot on a x-y sled? - - - maybe underslung to keep the crap out of things.? Then the rotary dimensions are handled separately.? Simple - - no - - - doable - - - I think so.??
|
Greeaat!! On my last mill I built I used Clearpath servos. Is that a good option, or do you have another favorite? ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 10:57 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 teach/record ? Cool, I have a welding bench here and a few welders I can hook up for testing. I was thinking I would make something that would mount to my table from weldtables.com . So if you want to do this don't worry about the software side. We can read the encoders and use that to program the motion... ALSO I can move every axis as it is moving to get the machine where the wield should be. ? Thanks
Brian ? ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Development ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Webpage: On 2/21/2022 10:09 AM, Brian Martin wrote: Thanks for the offer Brian. I will? be looking into the design some more. At this point I only have a vision. I will try to model what I want in Solidworks, and figure out the motion/ linear bearing etc.. If the project goes ahead, I will try to contact you. ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
? ? Hi Brian, I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my mind! I have been dreaming about doing this and have some ideas. I have most all the code and I have things that you don't know about that we can use to help you with this project. If you want to chat about this send me a message off list and we can talk over the phone. I am in! Thanks ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Development ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Webpage: On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin wrote: Good morning, I am looking for some advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z. My questions are; - Has anybody built something like this, that would have any experiences to share?
- Is anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate parts. ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
?
|
Cool, I have a welding bench here and a few welders I can hook up
for testing. I was thinking I would make something that would
mount to my table from weldtables.com . So if you want to do this
don't worry about the software side. We can read the encoders and
use that to program the motion... ALSO I can move every axis as it
is moving to get the machine where the wield should be.
Thanks
Brian
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 10:09 AM, Brian Martin
wrote:
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Thanks for the offer Brian. I will? be
looking into the design some more. At this point I only have a
vision. I will try to model what I want in Solidworks, and
figure out the motion/ linear bearing etc.. If the project
goes ahead, I will try to contact you.
?
Thank-you!
Brian Martin
?
?
Hi Brian,
I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my
mind! I have been dreaming about doing this and have some
ideas. I have most all the code and I have things that you
don't know about that we can use to help you with this
project. If you want to chat about this send me a message off
list and we can talk over the phone. I am in!
Thanks
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin wrote:
Good morning, I am looking for some
advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have
built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so
I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about
building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that
we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1
rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis
total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y,
x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has
anybody built something like this, that would have any
experiences to share?
- Is anyone
using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4,
is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow
me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to
programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with
UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the
UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for
this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate
parts.
?
Thank-you!
Brian
Martin
?
|
Thanks for the offer Brian. I will? be looking into the design some more. At this point I only have a vision. I will try to model what I want in Solidworks, and figure out the motion/ linear bearing etc.. If the project goes ahead, I will try to contact you. ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker Sent: Monday, February 21, 2022 8:25 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach4 teach/record ? Hi Brian, I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my mind! I have been dreaming about doing this and have some ideas. I have most all the code and I have things that you don't know about that we can use to help you with this project. If you want to chat about this send me a message off list and we can talk over the phone. I am in! Thanks ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Development ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Webpage: On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin wrote: Good morning, I am looking for some advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z. My questions are; - Has anybody built something like this, that would have any experiences to share?
- Is anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate parts. ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
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Hi Brian,
I really love the users we have, you are 100% reading my mind! I
have been dreaming about doing this and have some ideas. I have
most all the code and I have things that you don't know about that
we can use to help you with this project. If you want to chat
about this send me a message off list and we can talk over the
phone. I am in!
Thanks
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:
On 2/21/2022 7:45 AM, Brian Martin
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Good morning, I am looking for some advice
and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have built a
couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am
comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about building a
CNC welder for a production beam welding job that we do. I
would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis
for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total.
Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z.
My questions are;
- Has anybody
built something like this, that would have any experiences
to share?
- Is anyone
using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is
there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to
build Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a
robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR
arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR
arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for this
job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate parts.
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Thank-you!
Brian Martin
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Good morning, I am looking for some advice and ideas for a project I am brainstorming. I have built a couple CNC machines in the past using Mach4/ESS, so I am comfortable doing it again. Now I am thinking about building a CNC welder for a production beam welding job that we do. I would like to control X,Y,&Z plus at least1 rotary axis for the positioner, possibly up to 4 rotary axis total. Overall travel would be approximately, 144”X, x 48”Y, x 60”Z. My questions are; - Has anybody built something like this, that would have any experiences to share?
- Is anyone using Mach4 to run a robotic welder? Good/bad?
- If Mach4, is there a plugin or wizard or otherwise, that will allow me to build Gcode by jogging to points similar to programing a robot? Like a teach function?
I recently purchased a Vectis Cobot with UR arm, so I am familiar with robotics, but the reach of the UR arm is limited, not to mention the cost is too high for this job. I will keep using the Cobot for smaller intricate parts. ? Thank-you! Brian Martin 
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Re: need help... use button to start vbscript & read write value to a special DRO
when you create the button or edit it the should be an option execute code click on it and you should be able to add you script there and it will work when button is pressed
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need help... use button to start vbscript & read write value to a special DRO
hi!
2 questions :)
i playing with my mach3 and machscreen..
1.
i have add a button to my screen.
i wrote a vbscript and save them.in the macro folder.
name of the script is HomeTurret.
now i want to load this script as file when i hit the button.
if i change something on the script i dont want to add the script again with machscreen.
is this possible??? can someone help me?
2.
when i do a toolchange my turret jogs to x5 z55.
this values are named wzwx and wzwz
i add 2 dro to my screen.
i wish that the dros show me wzwx (5) and wzwz (55).
and i want.. if i change the value in the dro.. that is set wzwx and wzwz to this.
example : in the dro i put in 10 and 60.
then the machine jogs to x10 and z60.
its to set a toolchange position.
is this possible?!
thanks
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making holes without offsets
I have fiddled with arcs without offsets and now realize that i need to do the whole thing over but am working under somewhat reduced capacity and cannot learn a bunch of new programs.
I decided to try the two main holes starting over with cambam with the correct spacing. This will replace the mess I made before. I can deal with the few other holes later and use mach4 to determine the relative hole centers on the various 4th axis positions. I think there is a learning mode but it might take me longer to figure that out.
I think I have convinced myself that it is generally not good to use the quick and dirty easy method as it will bite you in the long run.
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
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??? ??? Spence , you don't mind if I call you Spence I hope .
Didn't your mother ever tell you to think before you speak ? SO fa
r you've sent 4 mails about this , Seems like your taking it more
seriously than I am . I said what I had to say in the first mail .
Life it too short to waste on just one ass .
thanks
over & out .
animal
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I think you are the ass.. I have never blamed
the software. I listen to all suggestions and try everything.
What is this latest suggestion? Using the phone and not easy to
see history.. Will check when i get home.. And not everything is
fucked up, Afte switching to msch4 i habe very few problems
??? ??? Remember several months back when I ask you if
anyone ever told you you were a ass ?? Well I 'm asking
again .If nobody has never told you that I'm sorry , you are
ASS? You write here how all your stuff is fucked up &
you can't get it to work . You blame the program . Go back
& look at some of your emails . People try to give you
help & your still a prick about it . Look I',m sorry you
have cancer . I guess your the only one in the world that
has problems . Poor Spencer . I was offering a suggestion to
your problem . Maybe you've been waiting for many months
cause your a ass & they put your file in the ass file .
I wonder how many companies won't deal with you anymore due
to your stellar personality .
To the moderator , I'm sorry for going off on your forum ,
but I'm sick of listening to him grip about your product
& then he go's on using it till he has another glitch .
If I get banned I will understand & if I do get banned I
hope if you folks ban Spencer also or at least put him on
moderation . I'm sure I'm not the only one sick of his rants
, but I'm the onl;y one to say something about it . For the
amount of $ you have made off him I have to wonder if it
offsets his negative remarks .
end of rant
thank you
animal
FU! we have been waiting for many months and everyone
says it is great.
On 2/14/2022 12:58 PM, mike
allen wrote:
??? ??? Sign up for Starlink , we're running 2 TV's
& 2 computers al day with no buffering problems ever
. Took i tout of the box , put the antenna/dish on it's
stand plugged it in & that was it .
animal
it looks like the program is online which means there
is about a 3% chance of it working on viasat. i have
fought with them for over a year and they can not seem
to get my shit working. replaced all the hardware from
dish to modem and we have a brand new router and it
still sucks. waiting for starlink some day?
On 2/14/2022 11:48 AM,
John Dammeyer wrote:
4th axis works real well in the free
version
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Date: 2022-02-14 11:06 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] arc question
I’m with Gary, download Fusion 360.?
It’s an integrated Cad/Cam ?program
It’s free and will do anything you would
ever need to do, With ease.?
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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I dont understand animal saying i am complaining about another bug and blaming the software. I was asking for help in eliminating offsets because i knew they are confusing and best avoided. I am trying? to get rid of an annoyance caused by my overuse of offsets. Animal seems to intepret everything i say as an assault on mach4. Maybe we need a separate thread for the hypersensitive.
Feb 14, 2022 6:02:25 PM spencer@...:
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I guess you were responding to my tongue in cheek FU. All my friends have starlink and i am envious. If i had known you were so sensitive and devoid of humor i would have not responded.
Feb 14, 2022 3:27:26 PM mike allen <animal@...>:
??? ??? Remember several months back when I ask you if anyone ever told you you were a ass ?? Well I 'm asking again .If nobody has never told you that I'm sorry , you are ASS? You write here how all your stuff is fucked up & you can't get it to work . You blame the program . Go back & look at some of your emails . People try to give you help & your still a prick about it . Look I',m sorry you have cancer . I guess your the only one in the world that has problems . Poor Spencer . I was offering a suggestion to your problem . Maybe you've been waiting for many months cause your a ass & they put your file in the ass file . I wonder how many companies won't deal with you anymore due to your stellar personality .
To the moderator , I'm sorry for going off on your forum , but I'm sick of listening to him grip about your product & then he go's on using it till he has another glitch . If I get banned I will understand & if I do get banned I hope if you folks ban Spencer also or at least put him on moderation . I'm sure I'm not the only one sick of his rants , but I'm the onl;y one to say something about it . For the amount of $ you have made off him I have to wonder if it offsets his negative remarks .
end of rant
thank you
animal
On 2/14/2022 1:45 PM, spencer@... wrote:
FU! we have been waiting for many months and everyone says it is great.
On 2/14/2022 12:58 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? Sign up for Starlink , we're running 2 TV's & 2 computers al day with no buffering problems ever . Took i tout of the box , put the antenna/dish on it's stand plugged it in & that was it .
animal
On 2/14/2022 11:52 AM, spencer@... wrote:
it looks like the program is online which means there is about a 3% chance of it working on viasat. i have fought with them for over a year and they can not seem to get my shit working. replaced all the hardware from dish to modem and we have a brand new router and it still sucks. waiting for starlink some day?
On 2/14/2022 11:48 AM, John Dammeyer wrote:
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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