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Re: joystick question

Denis Russo
 

As long as the joystick connects to the Sound card 15 pin connector at the rear of the computer, it should work. Go to Windows Game Port set up in the Control Panel and follow the instructions. It lets you set up a joystick and up to 3 switches. It also has an area to test the joystick and lets Windows know what the Max and Min values are. Then Go to Mach2 and enable the Joystick function, remember that the joystick must be centered to Enable the function, it will tell you at the bottom of the screen and the function will not enable (LED stays Red), unless it is centered.

Tried and true. Mine is not spring return, asked ART of Mach2 to protect the system due to the fact that the function can be disabled even if the joystick is not centered, motors moving cannot be stopped unless E-Stop or center joystick to re-enable and stop motors. Careful.

rekmac <rkonnen@...> wrote:
I got a joystick question. The program is setup to use a joystick,
will a game pad also work? My reason being that a game pad would make
for a better pendant. Example of one on ebay

ViewItem&item=2743824977&category=170 this is just an idea, but it
would be easy to use the way it is or hack it to a better suited case.
Just a thought.
Richard Konnen


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Re: Mach1ocx.ocx problem

Denis Russo
 

Not sure about that specific problem but be careful of some programs that might be in your PC. Mach2 runs at a very low level and interfaces with the CPU, it is not a typical Windows program, it must ask permission of the CPU to interact. The program I have been warned about from Art the Mach2 designer is especially 'QuickTime'. This program could crash Mach2, I remove that one especially from the machine before I even run Mach2, must uninstall the program or it could be trouble and you won't know why.

Just a note, don't know if that fixes your problem.

leroy40272 <mcarter@...> wrote:
Hi all,
Installed newest version of Mach2, I get the following error
sometimes when running the program.
AppName Mach1ocx.ocx
Mach2.exe
ModVersion 1.0.0.1
Offset: 000164E6
I changed my motherboard to a newer faster Soyo was running an
Epox1.0Ghz 1gig mem. Could someone point me in the right direction
thanks for any help
Mike Carter
Louisville,KY


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Re: Challenge For the Software Programmer

Denis Russo
 

Where did you get such a thing, sounds like an interesting toy, I wouldn't mind having a go at it myself.

Servo Wizard <servowizard@...> wrote:Art and other software programmers,

I've done it again. I spent a countless number of hours developing my
Mach2 Lathe and Mill screens in a 1024 x 768 resolution and just as I
was near completion I purchased a new toy for my Mach2 machine tool
control. It's a real neat Advantech panel mount industrial
workstation with a LCD touch screen display and a graphics overlaid
membrane keyboard. Now the problem is that it only supports a 640 x
480 resolution so I'm now faced with the possibility of having to
reconstruct my Mach2 screens for that resolution. The though of it
provoke an idea that maybe it's possible to scale my screens so I'm
asking those who are qualified to tell me if that is possible.

Servo


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Re: Challenge For the Software Programmer

Servo Wizard
 

Denis,

These come without the single board computer that is required. I purchased the P4 SBC from TechnoLand, the part number is TL SBC-8280LLV-32. The combination makes up a very nice and very quick industrial PC. You will find the panel mount PC chassis at the following link.



Servo



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MAch2 status

zen11777
 

Hello group

I have tried to ask Art a question re Mach2 but have
discovered that he is on holiday.
Can anybody tell me what the current status of Mach2 is,
is it Beta, or General Release.

Thanks in advance.

Michael

Dolphin CAD CAM Ltd


Re: MAch2 status

Steve Blackmore
 

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 07:18:03 -0000, you wrote:

Hello group

I have tried to ask Art a question re Mach2 but have
discovered that he is on holiday.
Can anybody tell me what the current status of Mach2 is,
is it Beta, or General Release.
Hi Michael

It's still beta. Mill is virtually bug free and just needs tidying a
bit on screens, lathe still needs quite a lot of work yet.

Download and try it, also download John Prentice's manual.

--
Steve Blackmore


Re: Welcome to new Members

 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Alan Trest"
<cncprojects0@h...> wrote:
Thanks to all the new members.
<snip>
It has been pointed out to me that to improve the space alloted
by Yahoo, it would be very helpful if all members when they
reply to a thread, if they would cut out the prior non-essential
part of the post they are responding to.
Sometimes there are 4-5 concurrent replies in messages and this is
taking up alot of space. Please try and help us with this problem
by tidying up your messages and replies to others messages.
<snip>

Just a key bit left in after the snip helps one work out what the
reply is about.

John Prentice


NC Drill import

 

Hi. Does anyone have an idea how to import a NC Drill Excellon file
into Mach2 ?

Direct import don't work because of not supported G05 code (drill
mode).


Do i need a converter ? wich one ?

Thanks for your help.

Olivier.


Re: Mach1ocx.ocx problem

 

Thanks,
the only program i run on this computer is mach2, nothing other
than what windows needs is running.
thanks
again
Mike Carter

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., Denis Russo <drusso59@y...>
wrote:
Not sure about that specific problem but be careful of some
programs that might be in your PC. Mach2 runs at a very low level
and interfaces with the CPU, it is not a typical Windows program, it
must ask permission of the CPU to interact. The program I have been
warned about from Art the Mach2 designer is especially 'QuickTime'.
This program could crash Mach2, I remove that one especially from the
machine before I even run Mach2, must uninstall the program or it
could be trouble and you won't know why.

Just a note, don't know if that fixes your problem.

leroy40272 <mcarter@c...> wrote:
Hi all,
Installed newest version of Mach2, I get the following error
sometimes when running the program.
AppName Mach1ocx.ocx
Mach2.exe
ModVersion 1.0.0.1
Offset: 000164E6
I changed my motherboard to a newer faster Soyo was running an
Epox1.0Ghz 1gig mem. Could someone point me in the right direction
thanks for any help
Mike Carter
Louisville,KY


Mach 7.2 bug bug???

Chuck Meckem
 

Hello gents,
I think I found a bug and or I a doing something wrong.

Run from here..line#..does not seem to funcation correctly.

I goto line number I wish to start from (either typed in the box or
scrolled to) and push runfrom here button. Program rewinds itself
and starts from beginig.

So...
I tryed it a diffrent way...Instead of pushing run from here button
I just went to my line I wanted to start from and hit the run button.
A screen comes up asking location and and safe z. Numbers in boxes
had values from line i wanted to start from....Seems ok to me so i
hit ok and run. Program rewinds and wants to start from begining of
program.

My conclusion is that this feature may not be working right.

Any thoughts...?


Re: Mach 7.2 bug bug???

John Guenther
 

Chuck,

Does it actually start cutting or does it just run through the lines until
it gets to the line you specified? It seems to me, and I may be wrong, that
Art posted a message a few days ago about the "Run from Here" button and the
behavior of that button.

John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Meckem [mailto:zoomer@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 16:15 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Mach 7.2 bug bug???


Hello gents,
I think I found a bug and or I a doing something wrong.

Run from here..line#..does not seem to funcation correctly.

I goto line number I wish to start from (either typed in the box or
scrolled to) and push runfrom here button. Program rewinds itself
and starts from beginig.

So...
I tryed it a diffrent way...Instead of pushing run from here button
I just went to my line I wanted to start from and hit the run button.
A screen comes up asking location and and safe z. Numbers in boxes
had values from line i wanted to start from....Seems ok to me so i
hit ok and run. Program rewinds and wants to start from begining of
program.

My conclusion is that this feature may not be working right.

Any thoughts...?



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Re: Mach 7.2 bug bug???

 

Ref the manual 6.1.7.6:
As described in the manual, it should start at the beginning and run through
all the previous code in order to develop the correct modal state. It
should not actually run the machine, just run through the code. Once it
gets to that point, you will be prompted to do the actual start.

Note to John,
Can we get a big bold manual version number on the front page of the next
release? I don't know how to describe which version of the manual I'm
talking about if I quote chapter & verse.

Greg Jackson

-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Meckem [mailto:zoomer@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:15 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Mach 7.2 bug bug???


Hello gents,
I think I found a bug and or I a doing something wrong.

Run from here..line#..does not seem to funcation correctly.

I goto line number I wish to start from (either typed in the box or
scrolled to) and push runfrom here button. Program rewinds itself
and starts from beginig.

So...
I tryed it a diffrent way...Instead of pushing run from here button
I just went to my line I wanted to start from and hit the run button.
A screen comes up asking location and and safe z. Numbers in boxes
had values from line i wanted to start from....Seems ok to me so i
hit ok and run. Program rewinds and wants to start from begining of
program.

My conclusion is that this feature may not be working right.

Any thoughts...?


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Re: Mach 7.2 bug bug???

John Guenther
 

Greg,

You are correct, page 60, paragraph 6.1.7.6 says that is exactly what it
should do. I have the latest copy of the manual, the 7/22/2003 version.

John Guenther
'Ye Olde Pen Maker'
Sterling, Virginia

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Jackson [mailto:greg@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 16:36 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: RE: [mach1mach2cnc] Mach 7.2 bug bug???


Ref the manual 6.1.7.6:
As described in the manual, it should start at the beginning and
run through
all the previous code in order to develop the correct modal state. It
should not actually run the machine, just run through the code. Once it
gets to that point, you will be prompted to do the actual start.

Note to John,
Can we get a big bold manual version number on the front page of the next
release? I don't know how to describe which version of the manual I'm
talking about if I quote chapter & verse.

Greg Jackson
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Meckem [mailto:zoomer@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 3:15 PM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Mach 7.2 bug bug???


Hello gents,
I think I found a bug and or I a doing something wrong.

Run from here..line#..does not seem to funcation correctly.

I goto line number I wish to start from (either typed in the box or
scrolled to) and push runfrom here button. Program rewinds itself
and starts from beginig.

So...
I tryed it a diffrent way...Instead of pushing run from here button
I just went to my line I wanted to start from and hit the run button.
A screen comes up asking location and and safe z. Numbers in boxes
had values from line i wanted to start from....Seems ok to me so i
hit ok and run. Program rewinds and wants to start from begining of
program.

My conclusion is that this feature may not be working right.

Any thoughts...?


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Re: Mach 7.2 bug bug???

Chuck Meckem
 

Thanks guys ...I did not take it that far as to keep going after it
rewound. Should have done my reading first..! I will start again. If
there is a problem other than ME. I will post again.

Thanks again..:)

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "Chuck Meckem" <zoomer@n...>
wrote:
Hello gents,
I think I found a bug and or I a doing something wrong.

Run from here..line#..does not seem to funcation correctly.

I goto line number I wish to start from (either typed in the box
or
scrolled to) and push runfrom here button. Program rewinds itself
and starts from beginig.

So...
I tryed it a diffrent way...Instead of pushing run from here
button
I just went to my line I wanted to start from and hit the run
button.
A screen comes up asking location and and safe z. Numbers in boxes
had values from line i wanted to start from....Seems ok to me so i
hit ok and run. Program rewinds and wants to start from begining
of
program.

My conclusion is that this feature may not be working right.

Any thoughts...?


Breakout Board

jacoby01
 

I'm building a slightly modified version of the Universal CNC
Controller featured in the 1/2003+ issues of the Home Shop
Machinist. Last night I downloaded the trial versions of Mach1 and
Mach2 - I'm literally awestruck! The programs are exceptional and
I've decided to incorporate them into my system (not sure if I'll be
running W98 or XP - so I'll have to wait to decide on Mach1 or
Mach2).

My question - does anyone have experience using the Mach1 or Mach2
software witht the PMDX Breakout Board? I'd like to hear any
comments before I decide. Also, when I went to Campbell Design site
(linked from artofcnc.ca) I learned that their breakout board was
modified to run with Mach1. Two questions - does the pmdx board
need to be modified, and does one of these two work better with the
Art of CNC software.

Again, any comments would be appreciated.

Bob Jacoby
Florida


Re: Breakout Board

Peter Homann
 

Hi,

The main difference is that the Campbell Design board can process the charge
pump signal. This output from the Mach1 software is a 12.7KHz square wave.
The Campbell Design board can be configured to only enable the drives if
this signal is present.

It stops the system being inadvertently driven by other software or when the
system is booting.

For example, it may be possible for the spindle to start when the software
is not running. This feature stops this.




Peter Homann
mailto:Peter.Homann@...
Adacel Technologies Limited,
250 Bay St, BRIGHTON, 3186, AUSTRALIA
<>
Telephone +61 (3) 8530 7777, Facsimile +61 (3) 9596 2960
Mobile 0421-601 665

-----Original Message-----
From: jacoby01 [mailto:BobJacoby@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 30 July 2003 9:28 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Breakout Board


I'm building a slightly modified version of the Universal CNC
Controller featured in the 1/2003+ issues of the Home Shop
Machinist. Last night I downloaded the trial versions of Mach1 and
Mach2 - I'm literally awestruck! The programs are exceptional and
I've decided to incorporate them into my system (not sure if I'll be
running W98 or XP - so I'll have to wait to decide on Mach1 or
Mach2).

My question - does anyone have experience using the Mach1 or Mach2
software witht the PMDX Breakout Board? I'd like to hear any
comments before I decide. Also, when I went to Campbell Design site
(linked from artofcnc.ca) I learned that their breakout board was
modified to run with Mach1. Two questions - does the pmdx board
need to be modified, and does one of these two work better with the
Art of CNC software.

Again, any comments would be appreciated.

Bob Jacoby
Florida



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re converting to servo

 

Thanks for the replies and advice,
see any flaws in my scheme below?

condensed version,
3:1 reduction from motor to screws,
screws are 2.54 turn per inch
needed motor rpm for 300ipm 2286
mount 800 cpr[3200pulse] encoder on screw so
pulses per inch travel =8128
Mounting the encoder at screw end means less than 8 ft cable to
drive,


thanks again
Carl


THC !

morgtod
 

Tom and other torchies,
I just finished my THC controller ( Tom Caudles design ), got it
installed and made a few trial cuts, WOW, is this thing cool. I cut
a small piece of 3/16" plate with about a 1/2" hump in the center and
you can watch the torch follow the contour with what seems to be a
very tight torch pattern. The boards went together and function just
like Tom said they would. I'll try running some bigger projects
tomorrow and report in with any findings.
Thanks again Tom
Todd


Re: re converting to servo

 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "carlcnc" <carlcnc@y...> wrote:
Thanks for the replies and advice,
see any flaws in my scheme below?

condensed version,
3:1 reduction from motor to screws,
screws are 2.54 turn per inch
needed motor rpm for 300ipm 2286
mount 800 cpr[3200pulse] encoder on screw so
pulses per inch travel =8128
Mounting the encoder at screw end means less than 8 ft cable to
drive,


thanks again
Carl
Might want to check your math again. It takes 2.54 revs at the shaft
to move your screw 1 inch. It takes 3 times that because of the gear
reduction back at the motor so that adds up to 7.62 revs to go 1
inch. It takes 3200 pulses to turn the motor 1 rev so you have 3200
X 7.62 = 24,384 pulses to move one inch. Each step moves the
load .000041 inch. Now if you want to move 5 inches per second (300
IPM) you will have to supply 121,920 pulses in one second (pps) from
the PC....not possible in MACH2 (45,000 pps max).

I thought you said the pitch was 1 mm? There are 25.4mm per inch.
The numbers you gave were for a 10mm pitch screw . If it is 1mm
multiply all of the above numbers by 10!

You will have to investigate a step multiplier for the 320 or live
with much slower speeds. Max speed even at 45,000 pps is a little
over 110 IPM and that is with a 10mm pitch screw.

I don't remember the upper limit of the steps for the Gecko. With a
10:1 multiplier you can get the numbers back into the world of
reality if the Gecko will digest the rapid encoder counts and
incoming steps. Technically you could do your 300 IPM with room to
spare.

The killer in this is the 800 count encoders. 200 count would lower
the numbers to 800 * 7.62 = 6096 pulses per inch. Provided the pitch
is 10mm (2.54 turns/inch) you can get your 300 IPM rapids.

Its easy to loose sight of the fact that even though the motor might
be rated at 3500RPM (58.33 rev/sec) which is plenty fast to get the
speeds you want, every incoming pulse to the Gecko moves the motor
1/4 encoder counts. Since every rev requires 3200 pulses, to get
58.33 rev/sec, you would need 186656 pulses per secound to spin it at
3500 rpm. Working backwards if you can only supply 45,000 pps from
the parallel port, then your max rpm is about 14 rps or 843 RPM.
Divide that by your gear reduction (3:1) and you are down to 281 RPM
at the shaft. Divide that by the 2.54 turns per inch and you have
110 IPM.

YOu can work the math several ways. The numbers come out the same.


Re: THC !

 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "morgtod" <todmorg@h...> wrote:
Tom and other torchies,
I just finished my THC controller ( Tom Caudles design ), got it
installed and made a few trial cuts, WOW, is this thing cool. I
cut
a small piece of 3/16" plate with about a 1/2" hump in the center
and
you can watch the torch follow the contour with what seems to be a
very tight torch pattern. The boards went together and function
just
like Tom said they would. I'll try running some bigger projects
tomorrow and report in with any findings.
Thanks again Tom
Todd
Marvelous,,,simply marvelous!! For those of you not inclined to
dabble in rolling your own, the Sound Logic guy (Jim Cullins) is hot
on the trail of designing a finished unit.