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Kinda wish this wasn't my first post to the group. But here we go anyway... One of the issues I have with digital modes in general is that there's a requirement for a central server to keep track of

Excellent summary! This is *so* true. The source of innovation is everything but them, most of the time. I still need to add the signature definition to the spec document. My plan is to do this in

Great example of open source innovation that has already happened.? I felt much the same when I saw the post on Discord about M17 signing.? I can also see the potential for it to be a game

I can't remember if it was here that someone was recently mentioning "little green check marks", so this has already been discussed. I don't remember by whom, but I would like to fill this out a bit,

Yeah, I don't even have any XP boxes in service, oldest Windows in regular use here is 10. I take the approach of get the message out there, show people what it's all about and invite them to jump on

I did some ground work to get g2_link installed on a repeater, but it's still on the todo list their end.?? I have no idea what "ALMA 9" or "IOP prefix" is, haven't seen either of those terms used

<vk3jed@...> wrote: I'm helping with the local D-STAR Gateway and expect to install the "g2_link" link once the dev folks get some ALMA 9 things straightened out. That will give our

<vk3jed@...> wrote: Yeah, and more and more I get that it's not worth trying to sell M17 to folks who think it's OK to run XP on a public-facing device. :) *I* get it (even as an

They'll either fall behind or run after the bandwagon and jump on board late, if the penny drops. :) -- 73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

There's heaps, I run several myself! Yeah a multimode radio is needed for simplex? Bring on the CS7000 Plus. :)

Current M17 implementations use an addressing scheme similar to D-STAR (callsign based), but it's a lot more simplified and implicit disconnection on destination change is built in.? And users can

There will be a copyright statement in the various source repositories stating who owns the copyright of each piece of code.? You'll also find that the code is licensed under an open source licence,

<steve.stroh@...> wrote: And the primary driver is Wojciech Kaczmarski SP5WWP, who is here on the list, happily. No, but it's an important statement.

<ku0hn@...> wrote: I'm the same way but don't write code so probably miss some nuances (like, surely, the differences between the version numbers of GPL and LGPL to start let alone

Peter: Good questions. Codec 2 is licensed as LGPL-2.1 - https://github.com/drowe67/codec2?tab=LGPL-2.1-1-ov-file The primary developer of Codec 2 was David Rowe VK5DGR. M17 Protocol

Here is the source for Codec2, including the license and copyright information: https://github.com/drowe67/codec2 I am not a lawyer, just followed lots of open-source stuff for the past 25 years.

<jmm@...> wrote: I should have said " **Without talking about intellectual property or the fact that the source is open**". Remember, *most* amateurs don't really understand "open

**Without talking about intellectual property** what is the big deal about M17? Hams can change/improve/extend the protocol. The other protocols depend on DVSI to do that.

<vk3jed@...> wrote: Most of those are card-swipe/NFC these days. Which is the point, I suppose. Open protocol works on me and I am a D-STAR fan over the other DV methods in the

Makes sense, and M17 has a lot to offer - well written specification, fully developed data transfer capabilities (packet mode) and 100% open source.? That's a lot for starters.? My own position is