Re: Vaccines in Argentina
We should have had intelligently applied lockdowns. That is: mandatory masks from day one, triage in/out of shops, bussinesses and scools, etc. Unfortunately, some would still suffer much, like restaurants, but still could implement some sort of proceedure.
I Argentina, most protocols weren't even considered for several months. And many are still not in place, like in schools. So, we lost a year... Slds
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El lunes, 22 de febrero de 2021 09:14:36 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
We should have had more efficiently run lockdowns?
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On Feb 22, 2021, at 05:55, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
? Hahha I only disagree about the lockdown. I believe social distancing is needed. However, the show must go on, and so does work! So we should have had working protocols from day one, established by govenment and/or private sectors. It is on this last issue that we've all failed.
Slds
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El lunes, 22 de febrero de 2021 00:33:39 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
And it was all totally unnecessary. I know, you disagree :o) — > On Feb 21, 2021, at 17:15, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: > > But most of our clients have either downsized (due to bussiness going down and international commerce restrictions) and/or gotten sick (some pretty bad, including a couple of reinfections). > > Unfortunately, in the meantime, things seem to get worse, before they get better.
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
We should have had more efficiently run lockdowns?
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On Feb 22, 2021, at 05:55, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
? Hahha I only disagree about the lockdown. I believe social distancing is needed. However, the show must go on, and so does work! So we should have had working protocols from day one, established by govenment and/or private sectors. It is on this last issue that we've all failed. Slds
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El lunes, 22 de febrero de 2021 00:33:39 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
And it was all totally unnecessary. I know, you disagree :o) — > On Feb 21, 2021, at 17:15, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: > > But most of our clients have either downsized (due to bussiness going down and international commerce restrictions) and/or gotten sick (some pretty bad, including a couple of reinfections). > > Unfortunately, in the meantime, things seem to get worse, before they get better.
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
Hahha I only disagree about the lockdown. I believe social distancing is needed. However, the show must go on, and so does work! So we should have had working protocols from day one, established by govenment and/or private sectors. It is on this last issue that we've all failed. Slds
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El lunes, 22 de febrero de 2021 00:33:39 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
And it was all totally unnecessary. I know, you disagree :o) — > On Feb 21, 2021, at 17:15, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: > > But most of our clients have either downsized (due to bussiness going down and international commerce restrictions) and/or gotten sick (some pretty bad, including a couple of reinfections). > > Unfortunately, in the meantime, things seem to get worse, before they get better.
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
And it was all totally unnecessary.
I know, you disagree :o)
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On Feb 21, 2021, at 17:15, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
But most of our clients have either downsized (due to bussiness going down and international commerce restrictions) and/or gotten sick (some pretty bad, including a couple of reinfections).
Unfortunately, in the meantime, things seem to get worse, before they get better.
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
Well, in any case, if it doesn't go away, we will adapt... hopefully.
We're partly lucky and partly capable. We are lucky that none of us have gotten sick, and we've been able to work with a considerable low risk, besides keeping health measures up as much as we can. But most of our clients have either downsized (due to bussiness going down and international commerce restrictions) and/or gotten sick (some pretty bad, including a couple of reinfections).?
Unfortunately, in the meantime, things seem to get worse, before they get better.
But, yes, there is a "split" going around the world on many subjects. I guess there always is. Maybe in the 90's we thought it would wear off... Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
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El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 18:29:47 ART, David Smith <dvdcsmth@...> escribió:
Thank you for the description of how things are in Buenos Aires. ?I’m inclined to think that disorganized as official measures may be, you’ll be fine in the end. ?Like all epidemics, this one will fade away, no matter what officious politicians may do.
I’m afraid we’re on opposite sides of the very wide opinion split on the various lockdown regimes, but that split cannot go away, based as it is on radically different ideas about human nature and human flourishing.
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On Feb 21, 2021, at 16:14, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
? I agree with you on the problem: polititians don't know and -in a general consideration- they don't care to know.?
However, you consider that the pandemic is not sever and lockdown should not be implemented. I disagree and consider that the pandemic is very serious and lockdowns should have been implemented immidiately, along with de developement of specific protocols for bussiness, schools, etc.
With populists governments as we have in Argentina (and many also find many points in common with former USian's), they have both, in different manners, called for initial measures, and did not make any planifications for the long turn, as if the pandemic would only be around for a couple of weeks.
In the case of Argentina, we've had the longest and more formally complete lockdown? (even if it was not totally carried out), and no protocols to reopen bussiness, schools, shops, etc.
We still don't.?
In the Buenos Aires city area (the "great" Buenos Aires) live and work about a third of the country's population. The main problem, in my opinion, is that most workers take public transportation. But trains, busses and subways have cut down frequencies because many of the drivers were health compromised. So, it's -more- difficult to travel to and from work or school, than it was already back in 2019.
Pre-schooling, primary and secondary schools (wich cover from 3yo to 17yo) are reopening this week, but don't have thermomethers or soaps, let alone facemasks.?Both in private and public schools, teachers are boicotting and a strike might be implemented because there are no protocols, alcohol, etc. For example: if a kid arrives at scholl (most walk or take public transporation by themselves) and show sympthoms, the schools cannot turn them away unless a parent is present.?
I myself will have to go on monday and tuesday (colllege level), even as students will be connecting online. This forces me to either walk or take public transportation. I can, but many of my coworkers cannot (they live further away or are health compromised).?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 05:09:11 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
Doesn’t this at least suggest that the people running these quarantines or lockdowns or whatever they’re calling them and the medicine distributions are, after a year, still in panic mode, with little clear sense of what they even think they’re doing? ?
As I look at this from the sidelines, as it were, it seems simultaneously absurd and outrageous. ?It’s absurd as so much political activity is grotesque and outrageous because of the immense human damage these fools have been causing for the past year, all on the pretext of protecting humanity from a threat that for nearly everyone is all but nonexistent.
— On Feb 20, 2021, at 13:12, Ed Lomas <relomas2@...> wrote:
?That’s interesting, since the USA is having similar problems on some areas.? Our county in California changed its age limits four times in one week, and people over 65 had been logging on, trying to get appointments only to find that they were no longer eligible.? In Pittsburgh, they offered 750 vaccines by phone for over 65s who didn’t have computers and they got 15,000 calls per second for two hours before the system got hacked by crooks who offered fake appointments in exchange for credit card numbers or gift cards.
Yesterday, parts of California ran out of Moderna vaccine and switched to Pfizer, so my wife has Pfizer, and I got Moderna at the same place a day earlier.? The trouble is either a production problem or a delivery problem.? Nevada had to cut off all vaccines scheduled later last week because the Moderna shipment didn’t arrive.
It’s all but impossible to schedule an appointment online, and we were extremely fortunate to get them this week, but by the time I got my appointment and when I tried to schedule my wife’s after filling out the mandatory 10 page questionnaire during the scheduling process, all of that day’s appointments were gone, and I had to schedule her the following day.? This was at 8 pm on a Friday night, and the availability was posted without announcement.? I had been monitoring seven different appointment sites and just lucked out.? Our friend searched sites for two months before she got an appointment two weeks ago.? The questionnaire must be filled out online in its entirety after requesting the available time, and my neighbor filled out forms four times one website visit, only to find that his chosen time was taken while he was filling out the forms so he had to start all over again.? That happened three times to me in one website visit two weeks ago before all appointments for the day were filled at six different locations.
Scheduling is an awful mess, but once we got an appointment the process was fast, simple, and efficient because the centers don’t have very many vaccines, so they aren’t busy. Ed On Saturday, February 20, 2021, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Yesterday vaccination listing opened up for common citizens over 80y.o. (my parents, for instance). My brother finally got them suscribed at 2 am (the web was collapsed) and now we're waiting for more vaccines to arrive from Russia (so far, it's the only one available).
In the mean time, the ministry of health was asked to resign because he allowed some polititians to get vaccinated out of order. It's unfair... he isn't the only one using his position to give friendly priorities...
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
Thank you for the description of how things are in Buenos Aires. ?I’m inclined to think that disorganized as official measures may be, you’ll be fine in the end. ?Like all epidemics, this one will fade away, no matter what officious politicians may do.
I’m afraid we’re on opposite sides of the very wide opinion split on the various lockdown regimes, but that split cannot go away, based as it is on radically different ideas about human nature and human flourishing.
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On Feb 21, 2021, at 16:14, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
? I agree with you on the problem: polititians don't know and -in a general consideration- they don't care to know.?
However, you consider that the pandemic is not sever and lockdown should not be implemented. I disagree and consider that the pandemic is very serious and lockdowns should have been implemented immidiately, along with de developement of specific protocols for bussiness, schools, etc.
With populists governments as we have in Argentina (and many also find many points in common with former USian's), they have both, in different manners, called for initial measures, and did not make any planifications for the long turn, as if the pandemic would only be around for a couple of weeks.
In the case of Argentina, we've had the longest and more formally complete lockdown? (even if it was not totally carried out), and no protocols to reopen bussiness, schools, shops, etc.
We still don't.?
In the Buenos Aires city area (the "great" Buenos Aires) live and work about a third of the country's population. The main problem, in my opinion, is that most workers take public transportation. But trains, busses and subways have cut down frequencies because many of the drivers were health compromised. So, it's -more- difficult to travel to and from work or school, than it was already back in 2019.
Pre-schooling, primary and secondary schools (wich cover from 3yo to 17yo) are reopening this week, but don't have thermomethers or soaps, let alone facemasks.?Both in private and public schools, teachers are boicotting and a strike might be implemented because there are no protocols, alcohol, etc. For example: if a kid arrives at scholl (most walk or take public transporation by themselves) and show sympthoms, the schools cannot turn them away unless a parent is present.?
I myself will have to go on monday and tuesday (colllege level), even as students will be connecting online. This forces me to either walk or take public transportation. I can, but many of my coworkers cannot (they live further away or are health compromised).?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
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El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 05:09:11 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
Doesn’t this at least suggest that the people running these quarantines or lockdowns or whatever they’re calling them and the medicine distributions are, after a year, still in panic mode, with little clear sense of what they even think they’re doing? ?
As I look at this from the sidelines, as it were, it seems simultaneously absurd and outrageous. ?It’s absurd as so much political activity is grotesque and outrageous because of the immense human damage these fools have been causing for the past year, all on the pretext of protecting humanity from a threat that for nearly everyone is all but nonexistent.
— On Feb 20, 2021, at 13:12, Ed Lomas <relomas2@...> wrote:
?That’s interesting, since the USA is having similar problems on some areas.? Our county in California changed its age limits four times in one week, and people over 65 had been logging on, trying to get appointments only to find that they were no longer eligible.? In Pittsburgh, they offered 750 vaccines by phone for over 65s who didn’t have computers and they got 15,000 calls per second for two hours before the system got hacked by crooks who offered fake appointments in exchange for credit card numbers or gift cards.
Yesterday, parts of California ran out of Moderna vaccine and switched to Pfizer, so my wife has Pfizer, and I got Moderna at the same place a day earlier.? The trouble is either a production problem or a delivery problem.? Nevada had to cut off all vaccines scheduled later last week because the Moderna shipment didn’t arrive.
It’s all but impossible to schedule an appointment online, and we were extremely fortunate to get them this week, but by the time I got my appointment and when I tried to schedule my wife’s after filling out the mandatory 10 page questionnaire during the scheduling process, all of that day’s appointments were gone, and I had to schedule her the following day.? This was at 8 pm on a Friday night, and the availability was posted without announcement.? I had been monitoring seven different appointment sites and just lucked out.? Our friend searched sites for two months before she got an appointment two weeks ago.? The questionnaire must be filled out online in its entirety after requesting the available time, and my neighbor filled out forms four times one website visit, only to find that his chosen time was taken while he was filling out the forms so he had to start all over again.? That happened three times to me in one website visit two weeks ago before all appointments for the day were filled at six different locations.
Scheduling is an awful mess, but once we got an appointment the process was fast, simple, and efficient because the centers don’t have very many vaccines, so they aren’t busy. Ed On Saturday, February 20, 2021, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Yesterday vaccination listing opened up for common citizens over 80y.o. (my parents, for instance). My brother finally got them suscribed at 2 am (the web was collapsed) and now we're waiting for more vaccines to arrive from Russia (so far, it's the only one available).
In the mean time, the ministry of health was asked to resign because he allowed some polititians to get vaccinated out of order. It's unfair... he isn't the only one using his position to give friendly priorities...
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
I agree with you on the problem: polititians don't know and -in a general consideration- they don't care to know.?
However, you consider that the pandemic is not sever and lockdown should not be implemented. I disagree and consider that the pandemic is very serious and lockdowns should have been implemented immidiately, along with de developement of specific protocols for bussiness, schools, etc.
With populists governments as we have in Argentina (and many also find many points in common with former USian's), they have both, in different manners, called for initial measures, and did not make any planifications for the long turn, as if the pandemic would only be around for a couple of weeks.
In the case of Argentina, we've had the longest and more formally complete lockdown? (even if it was not totally carried out), and no protocols to reopen bussiness, schools, shops, etc.
We still don't.?
In the Buenos Aires city area (the "great" Buenos Aires) live and work about a third of the country's population. The main problem, in my opinion, is that most workers take public transportation. But trains, busses and subways have cut down frequencies because many of the drivers were health compromised. So, it's -more- difficult to travel to and from work or school, than it was already back in 2019.
Pre-schooling, primary and secondary schools (wich cover from 3yo to 17yo) are reopening this week, but don't have thermomethers or soaps, let alone facemasks.?Both in private and public schools, teachers are boicotting and a strike might be implemented because there are no protocols, alcohol, etc. For example: if a kid arrives at scholl (most walk or take public transporation by themselves) and show sympthoms, the schools cannot turn them away unless a parent is present.?
I myself will have to go on monday and tuesday (colllege level), even as students will be connecting online. This forces me to either walk or take public transportation. I can, but many of my coworkers cannot (they live further away or are health compromised).?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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El domingo, 21 de febrero de 2021 05:09:11 ART, David Smith <david.smith.mpowered@...> escribió:
Doesn’t this at least suggest that the people running these quarantines or lockdowns or whatever they’re calling them and the medicine distributions are, after a year, still in panic mode, with little clear sense of what they even think they’re doing? ?
As I look at this from the sidelines, as it were, it seems simultaneously absurd and outrageous. ?It’s absurd as so much political activity is grotesque and outrageous because of the immense human damage these fools have been causing for the past year, all on the pretext of protecting humanity from a threat that for nearly everyone is all but nonexistent.
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On Feb 20, 2021, at 13:12, Ed Lomas <relomas2@...> wrote:
?That’s interesting, since the USA is having similar problems on some areas.? Our county in California changed its age limits four times in one week, and people over 65 had been logging on, trying to get appointments only to find that they were no longer eligible.? In Pittsburgh, they offered 750 vaccines by phone for over 65s who didn’t have computers and they got 15,000 calls per second for two hours before the system got hacked by crooks who offered fake appointments in exchange for credit card numbers or gift cards.
Yesterday, parts of California ran out of Moderna vaccine and switched to Pfizer, so my wife has Pfizer, and I got Moderna at the same place a day earlier.? The trouble is either a production problem or a delivery problem.? Nevada had to cut off all vaccines scheduled later last week because the Moderna shipment didn’t arrive.
It’s all but impossible to schedule an appointment online, and we were extremely fortunate to get them this week, but by the time I got my appointment and when I tried to schedule my wife’s after filling out the mandatory 10 page questionnaire during the scheduling process, all of that day’s appointments were gone, and I had to schedule her the following day.? This was at 8 pm on a Friday night, and the availability was posted without announcement.? I had been monitoring seven different appointment sites and just lucked out.? Our friend searched sites for two months before she got an appointment two weeks ago.? The questionnaire must be filled out online in its entirety after requesting the available time, and my neighbor filled out forms four times one website visit, only to find that his chosen time was taken while he was filling out the forms so he had to start all over again.? That happened three times to me in one website visit two weeks ago before all appointments for the day were filled at six different locations.
Scheduling is an awful mess, but once we got an appointment the process was fast, simple, and efficient because the centers don’t have very many vaccines, so they aren’t busy. Ed On Saturday, February 20, 2021, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Yesterday vaccination listing opened up for common citizens over 80y.o. (my parents, for instance). My brother finally got them suscribed at 2 am (the web was collapsed) and now we're waiting for more vaccines to arrive from Russia (so far, it's the only one available).
In the mean time, the ministry of health was asked to resign because he allowed some polititians to get vaccinated out of order. It's unfair... he isn't the only one using his position to give friendly priorities...
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
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On Feb 19, 2021, at 23:31, Ed Lomas <relomas2@...> wrote:
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
Doesn’t this at least suggest that the people running these quarantines or lockdowns or whatever they’re calling them and the medicine distributions are, after a year, still in panic mode, with little clear sense of what they even think they’re doing? ?
As I look at this from the sidelines, as it were, it seems simultaneously absurd and outrageous. ?It’s absurd as so much political activity is grotesque and outrageous because of the immense human damage these fools have been causing for the past year, all on the pretext of protecting humanity from a threat that for nearly everyone is all but nonexistent.
—
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On Feb 20, 2021, at 13:12, Ed Lomas <relomas2@...> wrote:
?That’s interesting, since the USA is having similar problems on some areas.? Our county in California changed its age limits four times in one week, and people over 65 had been logging on, trying to get appointments only to find that they were no longer eligible.? In Pittsburgh, they offered 750 vaccines by phone for over 65s who didn’t have computers and they got 15,000 calls per second for two hours before the system got hacked by crooks who offered fake appointments in exchange for credit card numbers or gift cards.
Yesterday, parts of California ran out of Moderna vaccine and switched to Pfizer, so my wife has Pfizer, and I got Moderna at the same place a day earlier.? The trouble is either a production problem or a delivery problem.? Nevada had to cut off all vaccines scheduled later last week because the Moderna shipment didn’t arrive.
It’s all but impossible to schedule an appointment online, and we were extremely fortunate to get them this week, but by the time I got my appointment and when I tried to schedule my wife’s after filling out the mandatory 10 page questionnaire during the scheduling process, all of that day’s appointments were gone, and I had to schedule her the following day.? This was at 8 pm on a Friday night, and the availability was posted without announcement.? I had been monitoring seven different appointment sites and just lucked out.? Our friend searched sites for two months before she got an appointment two weeks ago.? The questionnaire must be filled out online in its entirety after requesting the available time, and my neighbor filled out forms four times one website visit, only to find that his chosen time was taken while he was filling out the forms so he had to start all over again.? That happened three times to me in one website visit two weeks ago before all appointments for the day were filled at six different locations.
Scheduling is an awful mess, but once we got an appointment the process was fast, simple, and efficient because the centers don’t have very many vaccines, so they aren’t busy. Ed On Saturday, February 20, 2021, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Yesterday vaccination listing opened up for common citizens over 80y.o. (my parents, for instance). My brother finally got them suscribed at 2 am (the web was collapsed) and now we're waiting for more vaccines to arrive from Russia (so far, it's the only one available).
In the mean time, the ministry of health was asked to resign because he allowed some polititians to get vaccinated out of order. It's unfair... he isn't the only one using his position to give friendly priorities...
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Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2020 y para 7030!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem #CustomsaduanaS #ForoATAsARG #DJONP #DJCP #TAD
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A Day That Will Live in Infamy
First Anniversary of a Day That Will Live in Infamy
21 February 2021

by Will Jones
Today on?Lockdown?Sceptics?we mark a year to the?day?since the world changed?forever.?
On February 21st, 2020 the Government of Italy did something no Western Government had ever done before. Something that the World Health Organisation had expressly only four months earlier.
It decided to set aside all established pandemic protocol, as well as all considerations of basic freedoms and human rights, and imitate Communist China (which had already been for its “extraordinary” response) and a whole local population in an effort to control a coronavirus outbreak.
What started with 10 towns and 50,000 people in Lombardy quickly established itself as the go-to and unassailable response to the coronavirus threat.?Seventeen?days?later the whole of Italy was locked down, 33?days?later most of the world. A year later, we still are.
From that moment on it became acceptable for Western governments to quarantine entire populations to try to control the spread of contagious disease,?even one scarcely more deadly than a bad flu. They haven’t looked back. No amount of data from the few Western countries or states which refused to impose such restrictions will convince them they were or are wrong to do so. Model after model appears from respectable scientific institutions to shore up the faith. The politicians seem interested only in listening to the?experts who reassure them they were right to take such extreme and costly action.
There will be many anniversaries to mark in the coming weeks, as we complete a full year since the nightmare began – the declaration of the pandemic on March?11th, the “three week” UK?lockdown?on March?23rd, and so on. But at?Lockdown?Sceptics?we felt that this was the one to flag, the pivot on which the world turned. We can no longer go back to the world as it was on February 20th 2020, because we cannot undo the fact that we were locked down by our politicians for an indefinite period of time to try to control disease, and it was accepted by the public and reinforced by the medics, the scientists and the courts.
In December, Professor Neil Ferguson ?the critical role of Italy in bringing?lockdowns?to the West:
[China] is a communist one party state, we said. We couldn’t get away with it in Europe, we thought… and then Italy did it. And we realised we could.
Our best hope is that in time the lesson will be learned that we must never do this again, and next time must be different?–?we must not panic but must stick to the .
But the tragedy is that even if we reach such a point, we can never change the fact that our Governments now know that “lockdown” is an option, that they can indeed “get away with it”. Western civilisation is undoubtedly diminished as a result.
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https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/02/21/latest-news-292/#first-anniversary-of-a-day-that-will-live-in-infamy
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Congress Escalates Pressure on Tech Giants to Censor More, Threatening the First Amendment - Glenn Greenwald
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Re: Vaccines in Argentina
That’s interesting, since the USA is having similar problems on some areas.? Our county in California changed its age limits four times in one week, and people over 65 had been logging on, trying to get appointments only to find that they were no longer eligible.? In Pittsburgh, they offered 750 vaccines by phone for over 65s who didn’t have computers and they got 15,000 calls per second for two hours before the system got hacked by crooks who offered fake appointments in exchange for credit card numbers or gift cards.
Yesterday, parts of California ran out of Moderna vaccine and switched to Pfizer, so my wife has Pfizer, and I got Moderna at the same place a day earlier.? The trouble is either a production problem or a delivery problem.? Nevada had to cut off all vaccines scheduled later last week because the Moderna shipment didn’t arrive.
It’s all but impossible to schedule an appointment online, and we were extremely fortunate to get them this week, but by the time I got my appointment and when I tried to schedule my wife’s after filling out the mandatory 10 page questionnaire during the scheduling process, all of that day’s appointments were gone, and I had to schedule her the following day.? This was at 8 pm on a Friday night, and the availability was posted without announcement.? I had been monitoring seven different appointment sites and just lucked out.? Our friend searched sites for two months before she got an appointment two weeks ago.? The questionnaire must be filled out online in its entirety after requesting the available time, and my neighbor filled out forms four times one website visit, only to find that his chosen time was taken while he was filling out the forms so he had to start all over again.? That happened three times to me in one website visit two weeks ago before all appointments for the day were filled at six different locations.
Scheduling is an awful mess, but once we got an appointment the process was fast, simple, and efficient because the centers don’t have very many vaccines, so they aren’t busy. Ed
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On Saturday, February 20, 2021, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Yesterday vaccination listing opened up for common citizens over 80y.o. (my parents, for instance). My brother finally got them suscribed at 2 am (the web was collapsed) and now we're waiting for more vaccines to arrive from Russia (so far, it's the only one available).
In the mean time, the ministry of health was asked to resign because he allowed some polititians to get vaccinated out of order. It's unfair... he isn't the only one using his position to give friendly priorities...
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2020 y para 7030!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem #CustomsaduanaS #ForoATAsARG #DJONP #DJCP #TAD
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Yesterday vaccination listing opened up for common citizens over 80y.o. (my parents, for instance). My brother finally got them suscribed at 2 am (the web was collapsed) and now we're waiting for more vaccines to arrive from Russia (so far, it's the only one available).
In the mean time, the ministry of health was asked to resign because he allowed some polititians to get vaccinated out of order. It's unfair... he isn't the only one using his position to give friendly priorities...
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional? Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos ? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2020 y para 7030!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem #CustomsaduanaS #ForoATAsARG #DJONP #DJCP #TAD
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Biden tells only four lies in his first away spech
CNN explains his 'misteaks' and what he really meant:
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virus - The Coddling of the Political Mind – Lockdown Sceptics
// ?Lockdown should end now. Its failure and cruelty as a policy is self-evident. The first lockdown was decreed amidst the panic and uncertainty of media hyperbole that drove the Government to ignore established guidance on pandemic management and to follow the instinctively totalitarian example of China. Continuing justifications have been found in the apocalyptic and opaque modelling of SAGE. Yet this name has proved to be as ironic as it is Orwellian. Almost a year on, SAGE has been shown to be wrong time and time again and strong empirical evidence now exists showing that lockdowns are not critical to combatting Covid. Cases were already falling before all three UK lockdowns were announced. Lockdown-averse Sweden has recorded excess deaths no greater than the EU average. The worst death rates in the USA are found in the states that have locked down the most rigorously, whilst those states that remained free have not fared dramatically worse than the average.
Perhaps more importantly, the costs of lockdown are unnervingly apparent. The UK is now more indebted than ever before in its history. Children’s mental health is precipitously deteriorating whilst their education continues to atrophy. Last year, a Bristol University study suggested that the medical and societal impact of lockdown will kill five times more people in the UK than Covid’s current butcher’s bill: an estimate that may prove conservative in the extreme in the years to come. Even if one were to accept that lockdowns have some effect on constraining the virus, a mere moment of reflection should surely lead to the conclusion that the costs outweigh the benefits. Yet the nation remains under house arrest, the economy stalled, and the lives and hopes of the next generation continue to be offered upon the sacrificial altar. All to save us from a disease with a survival rate in excess of 99%. Why, then, is the UK Government proving so reluctant to reconsider what is so clearly a failed and destructive policy? To start answering this question, one first has to realise that Covid is as much, if not more, a political problem than it is a medical crisis.??//
https://lockdownsceptics.org/the-coddling-of-the-political-mind/
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Re: CNN: Biden was wonderful..
CNN didn't sponsor the CNN Town Hall?!
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On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> wrote:
The article was written by CNN, but the event itself was not
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Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
Ed Lomas wrote:
...at CNN-sponsored event.? This is a puff-piece to the extreme: ?
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Re: CNN: Biden was wonderful..
Did he say something? ?Didn’t read the article.
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On Feb 17, 2021, at 09:53, Ed Lomas <relomas2@...> wrote:
?...at CNN-sponsored event. ?This is a puff-piece to the extreme: ? ?
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Re: CNN: Biden was wonderful..
The article was written by CNN, but the event itself was not
sponsored by CNN.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
Ed Lomas wrote:
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...at CNN-sponsored event. ?This is a puff-piece to the extreme: ?
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CNN: Biden was wonderful..
...at CNN-sponsored event. ?This is a puff-piece to the extreme: ? ?
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The False and Exaggerated Claims Still Being Spread About the Capitol Riot - Glenn Greenwald
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