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Re: Friday Five May 14

 


An addendum to the Friday Five.

This date in my personal history has been one I would rather not relive.
8 years ago I was hospitalized with a leg cramp in my left thigh so severe the ER had to give me a shot of fentanyl to get it to release.? I was traveling and had spent way too much time behind the wheel of the car.
7 years ago I was at a Mensa RG in Portlland OR when I fell down in an ADA (accssible) bathroom and destroyed my left leg.? By the time I was done I was in the hospital for seventeen days.
and finally two years ago today one of the cats that lived with me got run over out in the street.

Truly a day that will personally live in infamy.
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1.? :Do you know who Alyssa Vogel is?

The police officer whose picture was in the New York Times hauling a 4 year old girl who had been shot in a driveby shooting.


2.? Do you think Hamas or the IDF is more to blame for what is going on in Gaza and Israel at the moment?

Hamas hands down.

3.? Do you feel like you are or will be able to live a comfortable retirement?

No - too many people think I am the bank of Good Will

4.? Do you look forward to retirement - or do you dread the idea of having nothing to do?

I would die of boredom in a month.

5.? ?What do you think was the worst year for humanity in the last two thousand = and why?
536 - according to an article I saw today.? I'll post the URM



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1.? :Do you know who Alyssa Vogel is?

The police officer whose picture was in the New York Times hauling a 4 year old girl who had been shot in a driveby shooting.


2.? Do you think Hamas or the IDF is more to blame for what is going on in Gaza and Israel at the moment?

Hamas hands down.

3.? Do you feel like you are or will be able to live a comfortable retirement?

No - too many people think I am the bank of Good Will

4.? Do you look forward to retirement - or do you dread the idea of having nothing to do?

I would die of boredom in a month.

5.? ?What do you think was the worst year for humanity in the last two thousand = and why?
536 - according to an article I saw today.? I'll post the URM



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1.? :Do you know who Alyssa Vogel is?

2.? Do you think Hamas or the IDF is more to blame for what is going on in Gaza and Israel at the moment?

3.? Do you feel like you are or will be able to live a comfortable retirement?

4.? Do you look forward to retirement - or do you dread the idea of having nothing to do?

5.? ?What do you think was the worst year for humanity in the last two thousand = and why?


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Re: Why lockdown has become a lifestyle - spiked

 

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// ?its just now that people feel free now to do all the time-wasting activities that they felt they previously had to do.??//

Different people have experienced the past year very differently. ?For some, it seems to have had little effect on their lives. ?Little or nothing has changed. ?For others, the impact and the changes have been enormous and will continue to be.


On May 5, 2021, at 11:26, FreedomRocks <HomeOfLove69@...> wrote:

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<< Why lockdown has become a lifestyle

The culture of fear has made a lifetime of quarantine look attractive.>>

Eh, I think it is more like Covid (I don’t like to use “lockdown”, because the stay-at-home orders we had in the US were not true lock-downs, and they were only haphazardly enforced, if enforced at all) but I think most people have felt overcommitted and overbooked for quite some time. People felt they had to keep extended family and friend obligations, playdates, get-togethers with co-workers, church events to show support for their church and friends, community events to show support for their community, even though they barely had relations with these people and had little interest in the events. People aren’t embracing “lockdown” out of fear, they are using Covid as an excuse to get out of obligations that they didn’t have the guts to just say no to long ago. This is one of the few good things about COVID, people can finally do what they want to do (stay home and avoid pointless obligations,) and they don’t have to feel guilty about it. People are still doing whatever they want to do (as they have been throughout the entire pandemic,) its just now that people feel free now to do all the time-wasting activities that they felt they previously had to do.

Rhonda

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Re: Why lockdown has become a lifestyle - spiked

 

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<< Why lockdown has become a lifestyle

The culture of fear has made a lifetime of quarantine look attractive.>>

Eh, I think it is more like Covid (I don’t like to use “lockdown”, because the stay-at-home orders we had in the US were not true lock-downs, and they were only haphazardly enforced, if enforced at all) but I think most people have felt overcommitted and overbooked for quite some time. People felt they had to keep extended family and friend obligations, playdates, get-togethers with co-workers, church events to show support for their church and friends, community events to show support for their community, even though they barely had relations with these people and had little interest in the events. People aren’t embracing “lockdown” out of fear, they are using Covid as an excuse to get out of obligations that they didn’t have the guts to just say no to long ago. This is one of the few good things about COVID, people can finally do what they want to do (stay home and avoid pointless obligations,) and they don’t have to feel guilty about it. People are still doing whatever they want to do (as they have been throughout the entire pandemic,) its just now that people feel free now to do all the time-wasting activities that they felt they previously had to do.

Rhonda

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Why lockdown has become a lifestyle - spiked

 

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Why lockdown has become a lifestyle

The culture of fear has made a lifetime of quarantine look attractive.

Why lockdown has become a lifestyle
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For almost half a century, fear has dominated the outlook of Western societies. One of the distinctive features of this outlook is the tendency always to think the worst. And it is this tendency that has exerted an all too powerful influence over policymakers and experts during the Covid?.?

?member states’ decision to suspend the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine due to a??is a clear example of worst-case thinking. That cases of blood clots among vaccine recipients were not significantly higher than one would normally expect in the population at large didn’t seem to matter. Worst-case thinking prevailed. The imperative to avoid taking a risk, no matter how small, triumphed. And, as a result, risk-averse officials undermined the credibility of a life-saving vaccine.

At the heart of worst-case thinking is the precautionary principle. This states that when confronted with uncertainty and the possibility of negative outcomes, it is always better to err on the side of caution. Many of the precautionary principle’s supporters have??that the suspension of the AstraZeneca vaccine misapplied the principle. They rightly note that ‘stopping vaccination is not a cost-free option, in that delay leads to deaths’. However, since the very rationale of the precautionary principle is to view uncertainty in terms of the worst case – in this case, thousands of vaccine-induced blood clots – EU member states were not misapplying it. It is just that because the stakes were so high due to Covid, the irrationalism of acting according to the precautionary principle was temporarily exposed.

The precautionary principle may have emerged from within environmentalism, but it now pervades all areas of life. It encourages us to feel fearful and insecure before the future. And it has led to safetyism – that is, the establishment of safety as the foundational value of Anglo-American culture.

We can see the deleterious impact of safetyism and worst-case thinking in the sphere of childhood. Indeed, childhood has been increasingly organised around the anticipation of the worst possible outcome. Parents are now reluctant to let their children out of their sight. And children have come to view themselves as fragile and vulnerable. During the pandemic, this fearful view of childhood and children intensified. Children’s mental health was said to be at risk, and their physical development threatened. This worst-case approach actually incited children to feel hopeless about their future.

So, fear is socially dominant. But this is not fear as an emotion, which arises when we instinctively feel threatened. Rather, this is fear as a perspective, a cultural orientation towards the world. It provides the prism through which we interpret everyday experience. It feeds risk-aversion, a heightened sense of vulnerability, a preoccupation with safety, and a lack of confidence towards the future.

The prevalence of this fearful perspective is turning lockdown into something approaching a permanent state. Policymakers and commentators talk of ‘the new normal’ – a post-pandemic world in which freedoms and customs we once took for granted are no more. And public-health professionals frequently hint that social distancing between people will be in place for years to come.?

Thankfully, not everyone is prepared to accept the suggestion that there should be no return to normal life. Many crave physical and social contact. They want to be able to move freely again. However, this aspiration for??is often overwhelmed by a sense of powerlessness before the uncertainties of life. This is not surprising, given the way public institutions and the media have promoted a fearful outlook. But it is troubling.

An Ipsos Mori poll, from 25 March, captures the growing, fatalistic acceptance that there will be no quick return to normal. Thirty-six per cent of respondents said it would take at least six months to a year to restore normality; another 36 per cent stated that it will take a year or longer. That a combined 72 per cent of respondents believe that Covid-related restrictions will be in place well into the future shows how many have learned to accept lockdown as a part of everyday life.

More troubling still, a significant section of the public is embracing lockdown as a lifestyle. A recent study??that a majority – 54 per cent – felt they would miss aspects of lockdown. This acquiescence to, or even celebration of, lockdown often coexists with a reluctance to get on the commuter train or get back to the office. It has become fashionable to declare that Covid has taught us to work ‘better’ or ‘smarter’. ‘Professional-services firms need to work smarter in “new normal”’,?, before adding that ‘the professional-services industry will be irrevocably altered by the Covid-19 pandemic’. Words like ‘irrevocable’, ‘unavoidable’ and ‘inevitable’ convey that all too familiar fatalistic message: ‘There is no alternative.’ Others happily??that masks and social distancing will be necessary for years to come.

Underpinning such a fatalistic acceptance of the omnipresent risk of viral contagion is the absence of any belief in humanity’s capacity to solve the problems it confronts. Instead, we are encouraged to make a virtue of lockdown and even to embrace the ‘lockdown lifestyle’.

Why lockdown has become a lifestyle

The origins of the lockdown lifestyle

Writing of the ‘widespread compliance with lockdown restrictions’, Dr Gary Sidley, a retired clinical psychologist,??a compelling account of the systematic promotion of scaremongering by officialdom and the media. He notes that a paper written for the government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) on 22 March was concerned that the public was too relaxed about the pandemic. It argued that ‘the perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging’. Others working in the Scientific Pandemic Insights Group on Behaviours (SPI-B), a subgroup of SAGE, seemed to have agreed. At least one member of SAGE was moved to?that, ‘The British people have been subjected to an unevaluated psychological experiment without being told that is what’s happening’.

However, while it is tempting to attribute the high levels of compliance with official lockdown measures to the efforts of behavioural scientists and media scaremongering, there is more at play here. Psychological manipulation is important. But there are far more decisive influences on people’s response to the pandemic and their embrace of lockdown.

Take the role of political leadership, for example. Decisive, authoritative government can reinforce a public’s resilience. It will encourage people to face a major emergency, such as a pandemic, with confidence and hope. But that didn’t happen here. Too often the UK government acted as if it were not in control of the situation. And this lack of authority and decisiveness made the public feel even more anxious and insecure.

The government even seemed to be paralysed by its own fears, especially its fear of falling short of what it imagined the public wanted. It was not helped by the near constant media pressure on it always to do more. The government’s fearful indecision was captured most strikingly by the speed with which it switched from a relatively relaxed approach to pandemic management in mid-March last year to embracing a full lockdown by 23 March. This didn’t reassure people, however. It heightened their anxiety and reinforced their fearful outlook.?

Indeed, the pre-existing perspective of fear is key to understanding both the high levels of public compliance with Covid restrictions and people’s subsequent embrace of lockdown culture. In short, people were already primed to respond to a crisis like Covid in the fearful, lockdown-demanding way that they did, because safety was already being treated as a supreme value, an end in itself – one for which it was worth sacrificing virtually all aspects of societal life.

The demand for a safe space

In a sense, the embrace of lockdown by many people has been a long time coming. This is because generations of young people have been socialised in the culture of fear. Thanks to the adoption of new therapeutic childrearing and educational practices, in which protecting children from risk has been paramount, these children have grown up with a fearful perspective. Older character ideals, such as courage, have been marginalised. As the historian Peter Stearns pointed out:

‘Convincing the child that his or her environment was risk-free was essential; teaching him or her to overcome risk with courage dropped away – a truly fundamental change.’?(1)

This mode of socialisation deprived people of one of the most important moral resources that one can draw upon in the face of fear — courage.

As Aristotle and numerous other great philosophers have observed, the virtue of courage has long played an important role in the management of fear. Courage, alongside other virtues, such as reason, judgment, prudence and fortitude, offers an effective and flexible antidote to the perspective of fear. Educating young people to embrace these values can ensure that new generations of people become self-confident, and develop a more balanced and optimistic attitude towards the future.?

Courage itself can be cultivated through social practices that encourage people to use their initiative and take responsibility for themselves and others. Through these practices, people gain the experiences necessary for the development of confidence and courage. Aristotle noted that confidence can emerge from the experience of confronting the threats we face. ‘We feel confidence’, he?, where we ‘have often met danger and escaped it safely’.

Those who possess courage still feel fear, of course. But they are not overcome by it. A courageous individual will be able to draw on his own reasoning and use his own judgment in the face of a threat. Most important of all, courage provides society with hope and counteracts the cultural influence of fear. It allows people to recognise that uncertainty can be a source of hope as well as fear. The philosopher Hannah Arendt went so far as to argue that courage underwrites society’s capacity to live freely. ‘Courage’, she wrote, ‘liberates men from their worry about life for the freedom of the world’. Arendt even cited Winston Churchill’s claim that courage is ‘the first of human qualities, because it is the quality which guarantees all the others’ (2).

Why lockdown has become a lifestyle

Western society still holds courage – and displays of heroism – in high regard. But in terms of everyday practices, it does very little to cultivate it. In effect, the ideal of courage has been downsized. It has been reduced to an element of self-help, a quality that one exhibits simply through ‘surviving’ the ordinary experiences of life. We saw this during the pandemic, when people getting on with their lives and going to work were routinely described as ‘courageous’. Indeed, rarely has the term ‘hero’ been so promiscuously applied to unexceptional behaviour as it was during lockdown. Courage is thus often a zombie concept whose main purpose is to flatter people.

In reality, the virtue of courage has been devalued at the same time as safety has been valorised. Hence the rise of the idea of ‘safe spaces’. These are areas that institutions and organisations now pride themselves in offering. They are spaces which, by definition, designate the world beyond as unsafe – spaces, in fact, that are not unlike those to which we have been confined during lockdown. Indeed, the voluntary quarantine of the safe space anticipates the involuntary quarantine of the lockdown. They both draw on the fear that the human condition is inherently unsafe.

The late 1970s concern with ‘psychic survival’ provided the initial impetus for the emergence of attitudes that eventually led to a demand for safe spaces. This was captured in the title of psychiatrist Anthony Fry’s 1987 book,?Safe Space: How to Survive in a Threatening World. ‘As I looked carefully at this rather threatening world’, he wrote, ‘it seemed that safe space for many of us was becoming increasingly hard to find and that for a whole variety of reasons, material, social and personal conditions were becoming ever more unsuitable for human beings’ (3). Fry yearned for what he described as the ‘protected spaces of childhood’. It is a telling image, for his metaphor of safe space often seems to invoke the security of the child still in the womb.

Right from its initial conceptualisation, then, ‘safe space’ implicitly suggested that what lies outside it is likely to be unsafe. This pre-existing sense of unsafe space has expanded during the pandemic. As Jonathan Mayer, professor emeritus of geography and epidemiology at the University of Washington,?, as danger, real or perceived, creeps closer, the notion of safe space contracts. From this standpoint, everything outside our home is now deemed unsafe, while staying indoors offers security from an inherently dangerous world.

But from what do safe spaces provide protection? On?, safe spaces were not established in response to a public-health threat. They were instituted to protect people from the sometimes harsh judgment of others. They didn’t so much presuppose people’s physical vulnerability as their emotional and mental fragility. They were designed to protect an individual’s psychic identity.

At times, campaigners for safe space flaunt their vulnerability and fragility in order to justify their demand for protection. Indeed, they continued to call for people to be protected from the emotional pain caused by words and criticisms even at the height of the pandemic. ‘Having a space where LGBTQ people can simply exist in their own skin and experience, without judgment or pressure to hide for the benefit of cisgender, heterosexual people, can be enormously beneficial’,?wrote?one LGBTQ advocate in May 2020.

When I carried out a content analysis of documents calling for safe spaces in 2016/17, I was struck by the regularity with which the avoidance of judgment featured as a key objective for campaigners (4). In effect, a safe space provides a quarantine from the threat of judgment. That is why, from this perspective, free speech and robust debate are often diagnosed as unsafe and a danger to mental health. Supporters of safe spaces regard the absence of judgment as one of their most cherished features. Hence the Student Services Value Statement of St Andrew’s University?‘actively [to] reflect’ on its ‘practice to ensure our environment is non-judgemental’. This is how universities regularly portray their safe spaces – as havens from judgment. Or, in??of Montana State University, ‘Safe Zone provides an avenue for LGBTQ individuals to be able to identify places and people who are supportive, non-judgmental, and welcoming of open dialogues regarding these issues’.

This is telling. The idealisation of safety, the transformation of it into a socially valued objective, rests precisely on the devaluation of those qualities that we use to manage uncertainty and calculate risk — namely, courage and judgment (5). For it is judgement that we use to deal with our fears. And yet it is judgement that many today cast as a threat to people’s wellbeing and safety.

The sentiments fuelling the demand for safe spaces played a key role in encouraging certain sections of society to call for the society-wide safe space of lockdown. And they are also driving their embrace of lockdown culture.

We need to dethrone safety

So long as Western society continues to deify safety it will remain in thrall to the culture of fear. And self-imposed quarantines will indeed become an acceptable lifestyle.

Yet, although humanity can never be free of fear as an emotion, it is possible to create the conditions for society to liberate itself from the?culture?of fear. This is a necessary and urgent task, because the valorisation of safety threatens our freedom. As the EU’s fearful response to the AstraZeneca vaccine showed, it even spoils the fruits of human innovation.

The perspective of fear holds back human development. It restrains the freedom to explore, experiment, to take risks and to make choices. That is why we need to envisage a world in which fear ceases to be regarded as the principal motivating force in public life. We need to start embracing the future as a source of hope and opportunity, rather than of threat and insecurity.

Do we really want to cultivate in our children an embrace of lockdown as a lifestyle? The moment we pose this question is the moment we begin to liberate ourselves from the doom-laden grip of the promoters of the new normal.


Frank Furedi’s latest book???is published by Zer0 Books.

Pictures by: Getty Images.

(1)?American Fear, by PN Stearns, Routledge, 2005, p102

(2)?Between Past and Future, by H Arendt, Penguin Books, 2006 p154

(3)?Safe Space: How to Survive in a Threatening World, by Anthony Fry, Dent, 1987, pXIV

(4) See?What’s Happened to The University? A Sociological Exploration of its Infantilization, by Frank Furedi, Routledge, 2017

(5) For a discussion of the consequences of the loss of judgment see?Why Borders Matter: Why Humanity Must Relearn the Art Of Drawing Boundaries, by Frank Furedi, Routledge, 2020



Re: F;riday Five April 30

 



1.? Should being intoxicated with marijuana be an excuse for committing hoimicide?

No, though being mentally impaired may mitigate the seriousness of the crime.

2.? What modern country do you next think will suffer a political overthrow of it's constituted government?

The USA has just had a political overthrow, and may have another one in two or four years, but I suspect that some country that we don't think of that is badly-governed and suffering from covid stress may be next.? Perhaps Venezuela or North Korea, or Turkey.? It also depends the definitions of ?'political overthrow," and "modern country."

3.? ?What do you use as your primary sounce of information about the politics of your country?


The media of other countries.? That would be the BBC and The Economist, though both are UK sources and prone to be more liberal than Democrats, but they are less biased than our domestic media, which is extremist on both sides.

4.? What is the most hypocritical news report about a politician you have heard this week?

The Biden administration's claims that they are going to help out countries needing vaccines by giving them 60 million doses of the AstraZenica vaccine that isn't approved by our government yet, but not until we approve the vaccine. ? There are literally billions of peole who are dying because the Biden administration hoarded hundreds of millions of vaccines that we didn't need, and now they are being doled out in small quantities to the countries we like, part of the global vaccine diplomacy that Russia and China are using to punish other countries.

5.? Are the rights enumerated in the constitution absolute or are they at the discretion of the president.? (This first came to light in 1917)

They should be absolute, with the exception of wartime and disasters like epidemics. ? However, those rights have been eroded by the government exaggerating disasters and threats like the war on terrorism, which hasn't produced any real results except thousands ?of useless ?government intelligence agents who mostly entrap young muslims.


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On Friday, April 30, 2021, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:

1.? Should being intoxicated with marijuana be an excuse for committing hoimicide?



Duh. Simply being intoxicated, even as a medicinal side-effect, should not? Sounded a little like they were also referencing a psychiatric condition, but it was not clear enough. Marijuanause does have a positive correlation with psychosis in the U.S. Still, if the use is voluntary and the decision made by a capable adult, then no excuse. STay sober if you cannot be safely intoxicated.


2.? What modern country do you next think will suffer a political overthrow of it's constituted government?

I do not have a serious answer, but I had the impulse to respond that the U.S. is already enroute.

3.? ?What do you use as your primary sounce of information about the politics of your country?

News and Internet commentary.

4.? What is the most hypocritical news report about a politician you have heard this week?

Did Biden state any regrets about the border mess yet?

5.? Are the rights enumerated in the constitution absolute or are they at the discretion of the president.? (This first came to light in 1917)

Neither? The rights are to be applied reasonably as broad situational guidelines.

Darrell G King, MA, RN
Rochester, NY, US
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On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:25 PM mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:












1.? Should being intoxicated with marijuana be an excuse for committing hoimicide?


2.? What modern country do you next think will suffer a political overthrow of it's constituted government?

3.? ?What do you use as your primary sounce of information about the politics of your country?

4.? What is the most hypocritical news report about a politician you have heard this week?

5.? Are the rights enumerated in the constitution absolute or are they at the discretion of the president.? (This first came to light in 1917)


Re: F;riday Five April 30

 


1.? Should being intoxicated with marijuana be an excuse for committing hoimicide?



Duh. Simply being intoxicated, even as a medicinal side-effect, should not? Sounded a little like they were also referencing a psychiatric condition, but it was not clear enough. Marijuanause does have a positive correlation with psychosis in the U.S. Still, if the use is voluntary and the decision made by a capable adult, then no excuse. STay sober if you cannot be safely intoxicated.


2.? What modern country do you next think will suffer a political overthrow of it's constituted government?

I do not have a serious answer, but I had the impulse to respond that the U.S. is already enroute.

3.? ?What do you use as your primary sounce of information about the politics of your country?

News and Internet commentary.

4.? What is the most hypocritical news report about a politician you have heard this week?

Did Biden state any regrets about the border mess yet?

5.? Are the rights enumerated in the constitution absolute or are they at the discretion of the president.? (This first came to light in 1917)

Neither? The rights are to be applied reasonably as broad situational guidelines.

Darrell G King, MA, RN
Rochester, NY, US
DarrellGKing@...




On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 8:25 PM mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:












1.? Should being intoxicated with marijuana be an excuse for committing hoimicide?


2.? What modern country do you next think will suffer a political overthrow of it's constituted government?

3.? ?What do you use as your primary sounce of information about the politics of your country?

4.? What is the most hypocritical news report about a politician you have heard this week?

5.? Are the rights enumerated in the constitution absolute or are they at the discretion of the president.? (This first came to light in 1917)


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1.? Should being intoxicated with marijuana be an excuse for committing hoimicide?

https://www.westernjournal.com/infuriating-ruling-court-decides-drug-user-cannot-held-criminally-responsible-throwing-elderly-woman-death/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=ams&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=wj

2.? What modern country do you next think will suffer a political overthrow of it's constituted government?

3.? ?What do you use as your primary sounce of information about the politics of your country?

4.? What is the most hypocritical news report about a politician you have heard this week?

5.? Are the rights enumerated in the constitution absolute or are they at the discretion of the president.? (This first came to light in 1917)


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The vaccines worked. We can safely lift lockdown

We are writing as scientists and scholars concerned about the confused and contradictory directions currently being promoted in the management of the Covid-19 pandemic. We are being told simultaneously that we have successful vaccines and that major restrictions on everyday life must continue indefinitely. Both propositions cannot be true. We need to give more weight to the data on the actual success of the vaccines and less to theoretical risks of vaccine escape and/or surge in a largely vaccinated population. It is time to reassess where we are and where we go next.

Phase One of the Covid-19 vaccination programme will shortly be completed, with every vulnerable adult in the UK having been offered two injections. It is clear that the vaccines are fully delivering on the promise of the clinical trials. We can be very confident that they will reduce Covid deaths by around 98 per cent and serious illness by 80-85 per cent. This level of protection against serious illness seems not to be significantly affected by any of the variants that have been observed, because of the breadth of T-cell responses. There are sound evolutionary reasons why this is unlikely to change in the near future with new variants. In short, the level of population immunity we have now achieved by targeted vaccination and natural infection means that the SARS-Cov-2 virus in the UK has become demonstrably less fatal than seasonal influenza viruses.

Given this, it is time to recognize that, in our substantially vaccinated population, Covid-19 will take its place among the 30 or so respiratory viral diseases with which humans have historically co-existed. This has been explicitly accepted in a number of recent statements by the Chief Medical Officer. For most vaccinated and other low-risk people, Covid-19 is now a mild endemic infection, likely to recur in seasonal waves which renew immunity without significantly stressing the NHS.

Covid-19 no longer requires exceptional measures of control in everyday life, especially where there have been no evaluations and little credible evidence of benefit. Measures to reduce or discourage social interaction are extremely damaging to the mental health of citizens; to the education of children and young people; to people with disabilities; to new entrants to the workforce; and to the spontaneous personal connections from which innovation and enterprise emerge. The DfE recommendations on face covering and social distancing in schools should never have been extended beyond Easter and should cease no later than 17 May. Mandatory face coverings, physical distancing and mass community testing should cease no later than 21 June along with other controls and impositions. All consideration of immunity documentation should cease.

There will be continuing value in investments towards better vaccines with a broader spectrum of action against the virus; in establishing a genuinely voluntary, targeted surveillance programme with a genomic component to monitor the spread and evolution of the virus; and in improving social security provision to encourage people to stay at home if experiencing respiratory symptoms. Just as before the pandemic, it will remain desirable to promote general standards of public hygiene, such as thorough handwashing and surface cleaning, although neither has been shown to be particularly important in reducing SARS-Cov-2 transmission. There would also be value in increasing the ability of the NHS to deal with surges of infection, although these are as likely to come from other respiratory infections as from Covid-19, and to ensure good care for long Covid.

We have learned that a good society cannot be created by obsessive focus on a single cause of ill-health. Having endured the ravages of 2020, things are very different as we enter the spring of 2021. It is more than time for citizens to take back control of their own lives.

  • Professor Ryan Anderson, Translational Science, Medicines Discovery Catapult
  • Dr Colin Axon, Mechanical Engineering, Brunel University
  • Professor Anthony Brookes,?Genomics and Bioinformatics, University of Leicester
  • Professor Jackie Cassell, FFPH, Deputy Dean, Brighton and Sussex Medical School
  • Professor Angus Dalgleish, FRCP, FRCPath, FMedSci, Oncology, St George's, University of London
  • Professor Robert Dingwall, FAcSS, HonMFPH, Sociology, Nottingham Trent University
  • Professor Sunetra Gupta, Theoretical Epidemiology, University of Oxford
  • Professor Carl Heneghan, MRCGP, Centre for Evidence Based Medicine, University of Oxford
  • Professor Mike Hulme, Human Geography, University of Cambridge
  • Dr John Lee?– formerly Pathology, Hull York Medical School
  • Professor David Livermore,?Medical Microbiology, University of East Anglia.
  • Professor Paul McKeigue?Genetic Epidemiology and Statistical Genetics, University of Edinburgh
  • Professor David Paton,?Industrial Economics, University of Nottingham
  • Emeritus Professor Hugh Pennington,?CBE, FRCPath, FRCP (Edin), FMedSci, FRSE, Bacteriology, University of Aberdeen
  • Dr Gerry Quinn,?Biomedical Sciences, University of Ulster
  • Dr Roland Salmon,?MRCGP, FFPH, former Director of the Communicable Disease Surveillance Centre (Wales).
  • Emeritus Professor John Scott, CBE, FRSA, FBA, FAcSS, Sociology, University of Essex
  • Professor Karol Sikora, FRCR, FRCP, FFPM, Medicine, University of Buckingham
  • Professor Ellen Townsend, Psychology, University of Nottingham
  • Dr Chao Wang,?Health & Social Care Statistics, Kingston University and St George's, University of London,
  • Professor John Watkins, Epidemiology, Cardiff University
  • Professor Lisa White, Modelling and Epidemiology, University of Oxford

This letter originally appeared in the?Mail on Sunday?.


Friday Five

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1. ?Would you ride in an autonomous vehicle on a public street?
I would find it a bit scary so not yet. Maybe someday as it becomes more common.

2. ?Tasers - should they have handles shaped like police issue firearms?
They should be as different in shape as possible so there is less chance for the policemen to grab the wrong weapon.

3. ?Do you think the verdict in the Chauvin trial was just?
Yes, now we have to wait for the sentence. If he is given a light sentence there will be riots and chaos again throughout the US.

4. ?Do you think the riots in the US cities will continue now that the Chauvin trial is over?
Read answer above.

5. ?Do you think the mask requirements will be lifted within a year?
It's too soon and to lift them would be a big mistake.

Amy


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1.? Would you ride in an autonomous vehicle on a public street?

I have ridden on a monorail in Las Vegas but would never ride in an autonomous vehicle on a public street

Monorails are on closed, controlled courses, no? ?Apples and oranges. ?Pineapples and fire hydrants.


3.? Do you think the verdict in the Chauvin trial was just?

Not in the slightest.

Too many variables we don’t know about. ?But I agree with you in the sense that any juror voting for less than the maximum verdict would have become known and his or her life would have been made hell. ?There should have been a change of venue. ?I know, it was requested and denied. ?Very bad.


4.? Do you think the riots in the US cities will continue now that the Chauvin trial is over?

Already have

Rioting in a “just cause” has been sanctified by mass media. ?It’s labeled “protesting”.


5.? Do you think the mask requirements will be lifted within a year?

No

Who knows? ?Many different jurisdictions, at least in America. ?Does it matter much? ?Now that the precedent has been set and approved in effect by, apparently, the great majority, lockdowns and masking are now a part of any local politician’s armamentarium. ?They’ll be sprung at a moment’s notice.


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1.? Would you ride in an autonomous vehicle on a public street?
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After adequate testing, yes. I am getting too old to be driving. I deserve a cheap chauffeur.
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2.? Tasers - should they have handles shaped like police issue firearms?
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Duh. Next Question.
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3.? Do you think the verdict in the Chauvin trial was just?
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No. I do think Chauvin showed poor judgement, poor interpersonal skills and a poor sense of public image. Either he was paid to be an idiot or he just is not the brightest bulb. Still, I think that the media circus influenced that trial as well.
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4.? Do you think the riots in the US cities will continue now that the Chauvin trial is over?
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Yes. Protests, too.
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5.? Do you think the mask requirements will be lifted within a year?
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No


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1.? Would you ride in an autonomous vehicle on a public street?

I have ridden on a monorail in Las Vegas but would never ride in an autonomous vehicle on a public street

2.? Tasers - should they have handles shaped like police issue firearms?

Pure insanity.? Any one who has worked in emergency services knows that in times of stress people work under instinct.? They don't look at what they are grabbing.

3.? Do you think the verdict in the Chauvin trial was just?

Not in the slightest.

4.? Do you think the riots in the US cities will continue now that the Chauvin trial is over?

Already have

5.? Do you think the mask requirements will be lifted within a year?

No

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Re: Mormon sex therapist in trouble.....

 

No, these were garden-variety Mormons, six kids and all.? I didn't know that the church banned contraception then, but one father was a bishop and the other was rather devout.
Ed


On Thursday, April 22, 2021, FreedomRocks <HomeOfLove69@...> wrote:

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That wasn't true in the seventies in Idaho.? My friend's father was a bishop and the bishop and his wife used them. A Mormon neighbor called a Mormon plumber I knew to free a plugged pipe to the septic tank.? The pipe was clogged with used condoms.>>

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Technically, there are several “denominations” of “Mormons”, so rules will differ between them. The, by far, largest group, the LDS, bans contraception (I think they might have a health clause that allows it in specific cases), but just like the Catholics, many, if not most laypeople ignore the rules. The RLDS is the 2nd largest group, and they are more liberal, I wouldn’t be surprised if they allow it, but I’m not sure.

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That wasn't true in the seventies in Idaho.? My friend's father was a bishop and the bishop and his wife used them. A Mormon neighbor called a Mormon plumber I knew to free a plugged pipe to the septic tank.? The pipe was clogged with used condoms.>>

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Technically, there are several “denominations” of “Mormons”, so rules will differ between them. The, by far, largest group, the LDS, bans contraception (I think they might have a health clause that allows it in specific cases), but just like the Catholics, many, if not most laypeople ignore the rules. The RLDS is the 2nd largest group, and they are more liberal, I wouldn’t be surprised if they allow it, but I’m not sure.

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Rhonda

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Britain must be open for all

The government must listen to hospitality – and drop its plan for vaccine passports.

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A year into lockdown, we run the risk of never getting back to normal as we knew it. Even though the government has pulled off the incredible feat of vaccinating over 32million people – more than 50 per cent of the population, leading to say we have now reached ‘herd immunity’ – we are nonetheless having a fierce and raging debate about introducing new restrictions: domestic vaccine passports or Covid certificates.

Britain has always resisted the introduction of ID cards. We have a prime minister who, in 2004, : ‘I will take that card out of my wallet and physically eat it in the presence of whatever emanation of the state has demanded that I produce it.’ Vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi said unequivocally that there were no plans to introduce vaccine passports. Like Boris, Michael Gove was to ID cards in the past, but he is now in charge of overseeing their introduction in the form of Covid passes.

I enthusiastically took my mother to have her vaccination, and have been jabbed myself. I think the development of the Covid vaccine is an extraordinary human achievement – and the UK rollout has been a fantastic success. But being in favour of vaccines is not the same as being in favour of vaccine passports. That would mean forcing our much-loved pubs, clubs, restaurants, festivals, sports arenas, theatres and retail to demand to see our health papers. It’s not British, it’s not necessary, and it’s deeply discriminatory.

This is why some of the biggest names in hospitality – professional entrepreneurs, operators and owners of venues in the UK – have united to launch – a charter for all licenced premises and events.

Peter Marks is chief executive of Rekom UK, Britain’s largest specialist late-night bar operator. He has had a brutal year thanks to lockdown. He tells me he was inundated by emails from customers, mostly young, saying they will not attend any venue that demands Covid certificates for entry. There was a similarly angry reaction from customers at the Hot Water Comedy Club in Liverpool. The venue later when its owners realised they were being primed to impose Covid-ID checks.

These checks are simply not needed. Don’t just take it from me. Listen to , one of Britain’s foremost businessmen. Or Dan Davies, chairman of the Institute of Licensing and board member of UK Hospitality. There’s also Steve Perez of Global Brands, and djs Danny Rampling and Norman Jay. They won’t be participating in the draconian, misguided and discriminatory policy of checking for health papers.

It’s not just hospitality, either. The has also come out strongly against domestic vaccine passports.

Surely the government must get the message now. The majority of adults over 60 have been vaccinated. Even before this, hospitality venues were responsible for less than three per cent of Covid transmission (in stark contrast to hospitals and care homes, where the government’s focus should have been). It is time for calm and reason to prevail.

While Open For All is an independent initiative, I have long been an advocate for nightlife and hospitality, particularly since I co-founded the Night Time Industries Association back in 2005, with Alex Proud and Steve Ball (both signatories of the charter) and others. I spent many years talking to government ministers and council leaders about the benefits of nightlife to the UK. From the Romans onwards, tabernae, pubs and inns have been the lifeblood of Britain. Nightlife is part of the very fabric of who we are. Marshall Berman, in his opus, All That Is Solid Melts Into Air, talks about the creation of the modern city. It is impossible to imagine our towns and cities without the social hubs that are pubs, clubs and events. We would do well to remember that the Enlightenment sailed in on the back of salons, pubs and inns. These are the places where we meet to talk, argue, discuss ideas, fall in love and relax.

But in the past decade or so, local authorities have been burdening venues with more and more regulation. Health passports would make it even more difficult to keep nightlife alive. Few in government want to recognise that hospitality brings in ?130 billion per annum, employing 10 per cent of our workforce. It’s worth five per cent of our GNP, making it our fourth largest economic sector.

People have made enormous sacrifices and adjustments over the past year, but we cannot allow fear to change Britain forever. We can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. We must all resoundingly declare that we shall not, under any circumstances, demand Covid passports or certificates as a condition for entry, anywhere.


Alan D Miller is co-founder of , Recovery and the NTIA. He is writing in personal capacity. Follow him on Twitter: .



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On Apr 17, 2021, at 17:20, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:

4? ? Do you think masks will eventually not be required in public?

Unfortunately probably not

Agreed. ?Masks are here to stay. ?There’ll always be a health emergency. ?(The Wanpunga virus!) ?Yo-yo lockdowns are the price of peace of mind. ?Until just a year ago, we had no idea how frightfully endangered we were. ?We used to get old and sick and die. ?Now, we believe that if we can stay alive long enough we’ll never die. ?We know they can do it - all we have to do is keep doing exactly as they say. ?Never question Master. ?Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.


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Ed probably feels about the same - wishes he could have two Ferraris, a Porsche, and a stable of thoroughbreds at his third home in France. ?I’d like to be able to afford to replace my old hi-fi and install curbing to keep the street runoff from killing my hedges. ?All of us are at least relatively impoverished, except for maybe the world’s three thousand billionaires.



On Apr 17, 2021, at 17:20, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:

2.? How would you define the tribe you belong to?

Poor and incapbable of attaining the lifestyle they want