1.? Do you
think Trumps cabinet appointees will be confirmed?
I hope not. He seems to want to appoint a bunch of inexperienced
sycophants.
2.? Are
you scared Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use long
rang tactical misslles on targets within Russia endangers
the start of a largere conflict?
No, I'm not.
3.? What
should the DNC staffers who have not been paid do to get
their money?
I have no idea.
4.?
?Should Ukraine negotiate with Russia - given the Russian
prerequisites?
No. It's a no-win situation for Ukraine.
5.? ?Are
you concerned by the launghing [sic] of an IRBM toward a
Ukrainian city yesterday?
It's not a big surprise. It's a pre-emptive response to U.S. plans
to produce and deploy the same kind of missiles in Europe.
1.? Do you think Trumps cabinet appointees will be confirmed?
I hope so - he has shown good judgment in my opinon.? The questio is going to be whether or not four senators decide to betray him.
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2.? Are you scared Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use long rang tactical misslles on targets within Russia endangers the start of a largee conflict?
Yes - but I think it was necessary.? It certainly has made the Russians - especially Putin think about what they are doing.
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3.? What should the DNC staffers who have not been paid do to get their money:
Sue Harris for back pay and damages - make her give up her hoome in Calfornia and move to Texas - and take a job at McDonalds.
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4.? ?Should Ukraine negotiate with Russia - given the Russian prerequisites?
NO? Biden has apparently shipped them a lot of antipersonal land mines - which should be liberally dispersed over the areas held by the Russians.
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5.? ?Are you concerned by the launching of an IRBM toward a Ukrainian city yesterday?
Apparently there was a hotline notification before the launch - but it may have been aimed at US installations in Poland - which would mean NATO is officially involved.
On Nov 21, 2024, at 21:04, Pat Trivers via groups.io <pat_trivers@...> wrote:
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. // ? ??The first woman president will be a big deal? ? ?//
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Oh, I don't know, Pat. ?I grew up in a female world, but the focused grievances of those days are gone, replaced by eternal media anger about everything. ?Women presidents and prime ministers are no longer even novelties. ?Celebrity is greatly overrated. ?Let it go.
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I agree, David. Except for in the USA, which may be the only country in the world that hasn't yet had a female leader. An awful lot of women seemed to be voting for her just because she's a woman, and expecting all other women to vote for her for the same reason. I personally would never vote for someone just because they are a woman. I choose the best candidate with the best qualities and policies, and who cares which sex or what race they are? But a lot of women seem to care - the leftist types, for whom ability and qualification don't matter, but "identity group" is everything. And the first woman's name will go down in history as the First Woman President as if that is a major accomplishment. I would hate for it to be someone so awful and unqualified as Kamala Harris. Or an evil bitch like Hillary Clinton.
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Oh, I don't know, Pat. ?I grew up in a female world, but the focused grievances of those days are gone, replaced by eternal media anger about everything. ?Women presidents and prime ministers are no longer even novelties. ?Celebrity is greatly overrated. ?Let it go.
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People who are intellectually two-dimensional see the world in two-dimensional terms: not as a rich and complex whole with which one tinkers at risk of unintended consequences, but as a pattern or schema that can be understood through a cursory examination. And, when in government, they therefore fool themselves into believing that politics is a matter, basically, of flowcharts: if X, then do Y, and Z will follow. ?- ?David McGrogan
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On Nov 19, 2024, at 13:40, 't bill' via M-Positive <m-positive@...> wrote:
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1.? Does Putin's comment about Trumps behavior after beomig shot impress you?
He put into words what the rest of the world thinks, and illustrated the fact that the world respects a strong, decisive and courageous leader. He invaded Ukraine because the US President was weak, but he's willing to negotiate with a strong leader. Neither surprising nor unexpected
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*** Should be interesting to see how this plays out.? The press will go nuts when the war isn't ended on 'Day 1'.? ?
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2.? Do you think Biden will resign so Harris can be an interim president?
Not likely. Jill won't tell him to, because she hates Harris, so he won't do it. And he shouldn't. The first woman president will be a big deal, and should be a woman worthy of the honour. A woman who is intelligent, sensible, a strong leader. Someone like Tulsi Gabbard for example. Not the awful, vacuous, incompetent, ineffective, much-hated cackler, Kamala Harris.
?
**** If Jill is in control.? Obama has been running the show so far and he mentors Kamala.? She gets into office, she pardons all the Bidens, everyone happy. ?
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3.? Do you think the RNC should help pay off the DNC's campaign debt
Absolutely not. They spent many times as much as the Trump campaign, and went into debt buying celebrity endorsements, which may be illegal. Let them pay their own debts.
?
*** Why would they want to?? That would piss off their donors. ?
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4.? ?Should Trump be allowed to appoint who he wants to his cabinet
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*** Allowed?? It's his constitutional duty.? If the Senate turns one down, he picks someone else. ?
5.? LIberal women are threatening a sex strike? - is this a good thing?
A. Who cares? and B. Would any real man *want* to have sex with one of those awful blue-haired freaks?
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**** Not me!? I'd prefer they took a vow of silence instead, but yeah, sure, knock yourselves out.?? ?
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*** TBill
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Pat
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// ? ?2.? Are you scared Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use long rang tactical misslles on targets within Russia endangers the start of a largere conflict? ? ?//
Since you asked:
Recommended reading, unless you'd planned on sleeping tonight.
// ? ?Whichever NATO geniuses cooked up the missile scheme, their endgame appears to involve landing the Ukraine war in a sweet spot between survivable chaos and Armageddon before the White House must be handed to the Trumpian gorgon. Who made the call??, who arrived for vacation in Hawaii as the first ATACMS exploded. One can imagine Blinken or Jake Sullivan or Lloyd Austin thinking it amusing to welcome Trump back by leaving this colossal geopolitical dump on the floor, but what’s Europe’s motive? British author Anatol Lieven?:
The raises the question of why, after worrying obsessively about the risk of a Trump administration “abandoning Europe,” the British and French governments want to stick their countries’ necks out in this??just before Trump actually takes power. After all, Trump’s supporters??Biden’s move as a wholly illegitimate pre-emptive strike… to wreck the President-elect’s future Ukraine policy and bequeath him a deeper crisis with Russia, and they see the British and French as Biden’s accomplices in this.
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The Emperor Has No Brains
America's post-electoral military escalation might amount to nothing, or it could be the last act of an empire gone mad. On ATACMS, ICBMs, and more nuclear poker
One more time, maybe the last, Joe Biden stared through sunglasses and angrily delivered a speech written to be uplifting. “The Amazon is the lungs of the world!” he??at the G-20 summit in Brazil, before loping off with an unsmiling half-wave, like a man leaving a restaurant with lousy service. The President of the United States disappeared into trees.?
Aides said the jungle?exeuntwas planned, but who knew? In an all-time awkward moment Monday, G-20 leaders waited and finally took a group photo?, absent for “logistical reasons.” It was like taking a holiday portrait at the mall without Santa. When Biden reappeared the next day, a reporter shouted, “Mr. President, why did you change your mind on Ukraine shooting long-range missiles?” Biden said nothing, so other heads of state had to speak for him. “I had an excellent conversation with President Biden, he’s a friend and ally,”??Canada’s Justin Trudeau, through a nervous smile. “We talked about a lot of different things.”
Who’s calling the shots for NATO? On the heels of??that U.S.-built ATACMS missiles were fired into Russia,?-made “Storm Shadow” missiles were shot into the town of Marino yesterday in Russia’s Kursk region. Reportedly, French SCALP missiles??the next Western long-range weapons deployed. But that’s just the beginning:
Our just-commenced sixty days of nuclear chicken appear also to include this week’s cutting of an undersea Internet cable linking Finland and Germany, an act German Defense Minister?.” Another Baltic Sea cable??was cut the day before. CNN’s Jim Sciutto said American officials are “extremely concerned” about both incidents, though the Pentagon insisted, “We are not at war with Russia.” Finally there was today, Thursday, when the Ukrainian Air Force released word that Russia fired the first ICBM in the history of war,??of Russia to the Ukrainian city of?:
An unnamed American official??this was no ICBM but an “experimental medium-range ballistic missile.” Others said it was an “intermediate-range ballistic massile,” or IRBM. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said otherwise in a post on Telegram: “All characteristics — speed, height — point to an ICBM,” he said, while Ukrainian army officials said they were “95% certain” it was an ICBM. Russians offered no comment, but?Moskovsky Komsomolets??the missile may have been an R-35M, which was once believed to give Russia first-strike capability and nicknamed “Satan” by NATO. The Russian daily added:
If the information about the launch of an ICBM is confirmed, this will become a clear signal to Kyiv: a nuclear warhead may arrive next.
No historical analog to this situation developing in Ukraine and Russia could possibly exist. Humanity approached World War before, but never like this, without a clear idea of who the decision-makers are. This is the logical conclusion of an argument we first heard after Biden’s shaky debate performance?on June 27th: yes, the White House matters, but the actual president is an afterthought. Former Biden video producer Chris Strider tweeted then, “” (causing partner-in-crime Walter Kirn to note, “”). Democratic fundraiser Joe Cotchett told the San Francisco?Chronicle?the party’s “bed wetters” needed to get over themselves and elect a “‘.” Added?The View’s?Joy Behar: “.”
“ELECTING A TEAM”: We were told Janet Yellen, Tony Blinken, Lloyd Austin and others were the real candidates.?
When polls plummeted Democrats abandoned the line, and Biden backers knifed him for the good of the congregation. A big blow was?(“I consider him a friend… But…”), then?(time for Biden to “pass the torch”), then?(give the party’s “deep and talented bench” a shot), then?. Who made the final call on removing Biden remains a mystery, maybe by design. The original?cri de coeur?of the administration was the “.” Unlike a Trump administration, we were told, people like Tony Blinken and Avril Haines and Jake Sullivan could mind the store even if the chief began jousting with??or shaking??. The “adults” need to know who’s making decisions, but we don’t, just like we don’t need to know who’s dealing the next hand of nuclear poker.?
“?” was asked by the RNC in August, after a photo of Biden sleeping on a beach was released. What little information we’ve gotten since about our still-President has been scattershot. After the election, Biden offered a few remarks to “bring down the temperature,” before assuming a “noticeably quiet” posture. Former Obama advisor David Axelrod channeled poet Robert Herrick, suggesting the lamp of heaven was setting over our President. “His race is over,” Axelrod?. “His day is done.” That was fine, but then came Sunday’s announcement in the?New York Times:?“.”
Biden!?News that our sunbather-in-chief “authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia” was delivered by unnamed “U.S. officials” to the?Times, which was content to pretend in print that zombie Joe Biden actually made this decision. The story came out just as he arrived in Brazil to freeze before the shaking of ceremonial instruments:
Whichever NATO geniuses cooked up the missile scheme, their endgame appears to involve landing the Ukraine war in a sweet spot between survivable chaos and Armageddon before the White House must be handed to the Trumpian gorgon. Who made the call??, who arrived for vacation in Hawaii as the first ATACMS exploded. One can imagine Blinken or Jake Sullivan or Lloyd Austin thinking it amusing to welcome Trump back by leaving this colossal geopolitical dump on the floor, but what’s Europe’s motive? British author Anatol Lieven?:
The raises the question of why, after worrying obsessively about the risk of a Trump administration “abandoning Europe,” the British and French governments want to stick their countries’ necks out in this??just before Trump actually takes power. After all, Trump’s supporters?Biden’s move as a wholly illegitimate pre-emptive strike… to wreck the President-elect’s future Ukraine policy and bequeath him a deeper crisis with Russia, and they see the British and French as Biden’s accomplices in this.
In the last 30-40 years the major political controversies in America have mostly been marked by the same unease over a leadership class that’s seemed more interested in expanding imperial influence than governing a country. From NAFTA to the Battle in Seattle to Iraq to Trump’s election (a mirror of the Brexit/Leave movement) to Covid and this new pair of dangerous and unpopular wars, the schism kept widening. The battle lines have been between those who want elected officials focused at home, and those more interested in making sure America remains a world leader at the helm of international institutions like NATO, the UN, the IMF, the WTO and WHO, etc.?
Who makes up that latter group? TED talkers, Davos visitors, CEOs, politicians, Hollywood stars. The rich, basically. Wealth is a nation unto itself now, and the major problem of the last 25-30 years in America is how easy it’s become for people with money to live in archipelagoes where national problems don’t reach. It took a bizarre stunt for the immigration crisis to briefly?. The Hamptons barely noticed inflation because residents were too busy enjoying??of??during the pandemic. For the “able to work remotely” set, lockdowns meant more time with the kids and many of those people never returned to work at all, allowing the high-earners who did go back to enjoy?, and so on.
The last election was an obvious referendum on Wealthistan residents. At some point America’s rich decided?noblesse oblige?was a net minus and seceded both from the cities Trump called “shitholes” (exodus of the affluent?c) and the rural areas where “white rage” was said to live. They settled in dots of exclusive suburbs that use??to keep multi-family housing out and single-family prices high. They then planted “Hate Has No Home Here” signs on lawns and sent their kids to preposterously expensive resort-like colleges, with giant natatoriums and jargon-packed goofball curricula designed to further alienate offspring from the rabble. As a Victorian gentleman had more in common with a Tsarist prince than a Yorkshire miner, Americans from this bubble feel more at home in Geneva than Tulsa or Deland.
It was easy to predict that voters would eventually revolt as national governance withered, but the curveball was how much this governing class let itself go. By the time Trump came along, they were too dumb to do anything?well. When being rich meant being fabulous and oversexed the poor and middle classes tended to look up in awe, but upscale America wolfs down censorship and idpol fads and its idea of fun is throwing soup at a Van Gogh over the climate. They refuse to produce likable politicians or non-shitty movies because that would require mixing, even for mercenary reasons, with deplorable (read: geographically American) culture. Their self-isolation from conventional life is so total, even?tits?coded as right-wing in 2024. They won’t do journalism, long an employment program for the incompetent rich, because it requires sharing common truth with undesirables.?
This exclusive culture is failing everywhere — the??is the latest sign of apocalyptic social change — but anyone paying attention in the last weeks noticed a lack of alarm. With the election over, Wealthistan culture is finally free of any obligation to pretend to care about mass appeal. Now it can be the exclusivity religion it always was. Members believed in moving power from nations to corporations and international bureaucracies like the Fed/ECB, the G20, the WTO, the Five Eyes, the EU, while mostly paying lip service to national governance. Now they can stop bothering with the lip service. Biden’s blank stare in this sense is a powerful symbol. They kept this helpless mannequin in office as a message, as an expression of contempt for our desire to be kept in the loop. You want to know what’s going on? Go ahead, ask Joe. Or check the sky for missiles. Also, fuck you! And Happy Indigenous Conquest Day.?
What craziness. Let’s hope it all cools down in the next days. Can we Make America Boring Again??
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On Nov 21, 2024, at 21:12, Darrell King via groups.io <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
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1.? Do you think Trumps cabinet appointees will be confirmed?
I am not sure I can answer for all the nominees in one batch, especially since I do not know all?the names that were nominated. I feel instinctively it would be unrealistic to expect a clean sweep, thorough?
2.? Are you scared Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use long range tactical missiles on targets within Russia endangers the start of a larger conflict?
Not scared. I expect there is a good chance, though!
3.? What should the DNC staffers who have not been paid do to get their money.
I have no idea about this, or even that it was an issue. I am mostly watching for war escalations. weather emergencies or civil unrest and skipping all the other stories due to time constraints.
4.? ?Should Ukraine negotiate with Russia - given the Russian prerequisites?
I think Russia is counting on attrition to get (most) of what it wants from Ukraine. Given that, negotiations would be fine as long as they do not amount?to capitulation.
5.? ?Are you concerned by the launching of an IRBM toward a Ukrainian city yesterday?
I did not expect this would even be a noteworthy variation of what has been building. The fighter?games around the globe are a?bit more concerning, but I do not see any doubt that we are on a track of escalation at the moment. Truthfully, I check the news each morning half expecting to learn that a battlefield nuke went off while I was happily?asleep. Even that doesn't?keep me awake, though... (see what I did there?)
1.? Do you think Trumps cabinet appointees will be confirmed?
I am not sure I can answer for all the nominees in one batch, especially since I do not know all?the names that were nominated. I feel instinctively it would be unrealistic to expect a clean sweep, thorough?
2.? Are you scared Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use long range tactical missiles on targets within Russia endangers the start of a larger conflict?
Not scared. I expect there is a good chance, though!
3.? What should the DNC staffers who have not been paid do to get their money.
I have no idea about this, or even that it was an issue. I am mostly watching for war escalations. weather emergencies or civil unrest and skipping all the other stories due to time constraints.
4.? ?Should Ukraine negotiate with Russia - given the Russian prerequisites?
I think Russia is counting on attrition to get (most) of what it wants from Ukraine. Given that, negotiations would be fine as long as they do not amount?to capitulation.
5.? ?Are you concerned by the launching of an IRBM toward a Ukrainian city yesterday?
I did not expect this would even be a noteworthy variation of what has been building. The fighter?games around the globe are a?bit more concerning, but I do not see any doubt that we are on a track of escalation at the moment. Truthfully, I check the news each morning half expecting to learn that a battlefield nuke went off while I was happily?asleep. Even that doesn't?keep me awake, though... (see what I did there?)
. // ? ??The first woman president will be a big deal? ? ?//
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Oh, I don't know, Pat. ?I grew up in a female world, but the focused grievances of those days are gone, replaced by eternal media anger about everything. ?Women presidents and prime ministers are no longer even novelties. ?Celebrity is greatly overrated. ?Let it go.
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I agree, David. Except for in the USA, which may be the only country in the world that hasn't yet had a female leader. An awful lot of women seemed to be voting for her just because she's a woman, and expecting all other women to vote for her for the same reason. I personally would never vote for someone just because they are a woman. I choose the best candidate with the best qualities and policies, and who cares which sex or what race they are? But a lot of women seem to care - the leftist types, for whom ability and qualification don't matter, but "identity group" is everything. And the first woman's name will go down in history as the First Woman President as if that is a major accomplishment. I would hate for it to be someone so awful and unqualified as Kamala Harris. Or an evil bitch like Hillary Clinton.
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Oh, I don't know, Pat. ?I grew up in a female world, but the focused grievances of those days are gone, replaced by eternal media anger about everything. ?Women presidents and prime ministers are no longer even novelties. ?Celebrity is greatly overrated. ?Let it go.
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People who are intellectually two-dimensional see the world in two-dimensional terms: not as a rich and complex whole with which one tinkers at risk of unintended consequences, but as a pattern or schema that can be understood through a cursory examination. And, when in government, they therefore fool themselves into believing that politics is a matter, basically, of flowcharts: if X, then do Y, and Z will follow. ?- ?David McGrogan
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On Nov 19, 2024, at 13:40, 't bill' via M-Positive <m-positive@...> wrote:
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1.? Does Putin's comment about Trumps behavior after beomig shot impress you?
He put into words what the rest of the world thinks, and illustrated the fact that the world respects a strong, decisive and courageous leader. He invaded Ukraine because the US President was weak, but he's willing to negotiate with a strong leader. Neither surprising nor unexpected
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*** Should be interesting to see how this plays out.? The press will go nuts when the war isn't ended on 'Day 1'.? ?
?
2.? Do you think Biden will resign so Harris can be an interim president?
Not likely. Jill won't tell him to, because she hates Harris, so he won't do it. And he shouldn't. The first woman president will be a big deal, and should be a woman worthy of the honour. A woman who is intelligent, sensible, a strong leader. Someone like Tulsi Gabbard for example. Not the awful, vacuous, incompetent, ineffective, much-hated cackler, Kamala Harris.
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**** If Jill is in control.? Obama has been running the show so far and he mentors Kamala.? She gets into office, she pardons all the Bidens, everyone happy. ?
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3.? Do you think the RNC should help pay off the DNC's campaign debt
Absolutely not. They spent many times as much as the Trump campaign, and went into debt buying celebrity endorsements, which may be illegal. Let them pay their own debts.
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*** Why would they want to?? That would piss off their donors. ?
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4.? ?Should Trump be allowed to appoint who he wants to his cabinet
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*** Allowed?? It's his constitutional duty.? If the Senate turns one down, he picks someone else. ?
5.? LIberal women are threatening a sex strike? - is this a good thing?
A. Who cares? and B. Would any real man *want* to have sex with one of those awful blue-haired freaks?
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**** Not me!? I'd prefer they took a vow of silence instead, but yeah, sure, knock yourselves out.?? ?
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*** TBill
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Pat
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1.? Do you think Trumps cabinet appointees will be confirmed?
2.? Are you scared Biden's decision to allow Ukraine to use long rang tactical misslles on targets within Russia endangers the start of a largere conflict?
3.? What should the DNC staffers who have not been paid do to get their money:
4.? ?Should Ukraine negotiate with Russia - given the Russian prerequisites?
5.? ?Are you concerned by the launghing of an IRBM toward a Ukrainian city yesterday?
// ? ??The first woman president will be a big deal? ? ?//
Oh, I don't know, Pat. ?I grew up in a female world, but the focused grievances of those days are gone, replaced by eternal media anger about everything. ?Women presidents and prime ministers are no longer even novelties. ?Celebrity is greatly overrated. ?Let it go.
?
People who are intellectually two-dimensional see the world in two-dimensional terms: not as a rich and complex whole with which one tinkers at risk of unintended consequences, but as a pattern or schema that can be understood through a cursory examination. And, when in government, they therefore fool themselves into believing that politics is a matter, basically, of flowcharts: if X, then do Y, and Z will follow. ?- ?David McGrogan
On Nov 19, 2024, at 13:40, 't bill' via M-Positive <m-positive@...> wrote:
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1.? Does Putin's comment about Trumps behavior after beomig shot impress you?
He put into words what the rest of the world thinks, and illustrated the fact that the world respects a strong, decisive and courageous leader. He invaded Ukraine because the US President was weak, but he's willing to negotiate with a strong leader. Neither surprising nor unexpected
*** Should be interesting to see how this plays out.? The press will go nuts when the war isn't ended on 'Day 1'.
?
2.? Do you think Biden will resign so Harris can be an interim president?
Not likely. Jill won't tell him to, because she hates Harris, so he won't do it. And he shouldn't. The first woman president will be a big deal, and should be a woman worthy of the honour. A woman who is intelligent, sensible, a strong leader. Someone like Tulsi Gabbard for example. Not the awful, vacuous, incompetent, ineffective, much-hated cackler, Kamala Harris.
**** If Jill is in control.? Obama has been running the show so far and he mentors Kamala.? She gets into office, she pardons all the Bidens, everyone happy.
?
3.? Do you think the RNC should help pay off the DNC's campaign debt
Absolutely not. They spent many times as much as the Trump campaign, and went into debt buying celebrity endorsements, which may be illegal. Let them pay their own debts.
*** Why would they want to?? That would piss off their donors.
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4.? ?Should Trump be allowed to appoint who he wants to his cabinet
*** Allowed?? It's his constitutional duty.? If the Senate turns one down, he picks someone else.
5.? LIberal women are threatening a sex strike? - is this a good thing?
A. Who cares? and B. Would any real man *want* to have sex with one of those awful blue-haired freaks?
**** Not me!? I'd prefer they took a vow of silence instead, but yeah, sure, knock yourselves out.?
*** TBill
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1.? Does Putin's comment about Trumps behavior after beomig shot impress you?
He put into words what the rest of the world thinks, and illustrated the fact that the world respects a strong, decisive and courageous leader. He invaded Ukraine because the US President was weak, but he's willing to negotiate with a strong leader. Neither surprising nor unexpected.
?
2.? Do you think Biden will resign so Harris can be an interim president?
Not likely. Jill won't tell him to, because she hates Harris, so he won't do it. And he shouldn't. The first woman president will be a big deal, and should be a woman worthy of the honour. A woman who is intelligent, sensible, a strong leader. Someone like Tulsi Gabbard for example. Not the awful, vacuous, incompetent, ineffective, much-hated cackler, Kamala Harris.
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3.? Do you think the RNC should help pay off the DNC's campaign debt
Absolutely not. They spent many times as much as the Trump campaign, and went into debt buying celebrity endorsements, which may be illegal. Let them pay their own debts.
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4.? ?Should Trump be allowed to appoint who he wants to his cabinet
He can, can he not, other than requiring Senate approval or confirmation or whatever? I think the approval is a good idea. In Canada, the Prime Minister can appoint whomever he pleases, to the Senate, to the Supreme Court, to be the Governor General (who is ostensibly his boss, as the Monarch's representative), to be the head of the RCMP. It gives the PM too much power. When you get a bad one like Trudeau, he can keep himself in power by appointing people who will not investigate his crimes (RCMP) and will rule in his favour. Canada should take a page from the US operating manual on that one.
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5.? LIberal women are threatening a sex strike? - is this a good thing?
A. Who cares? and B. Would any real man *want* to have sex with one of those awful blue-haired freaks?
?? 1.? Does Putin's comment about Trump's behavior after being shot impress you?
Had to go look it up. A minor impression because I have been wondering about the various ways Putin has shown more openness to Trump than he did to Biden. While this may bode well for negotiations and such, it has me thoughtful.
2.? Do you think Biden will resign so Harris can be an interim president?
Why? I have heard nothing to suggest this might happen. He has a few months to go and what has Harris one besides stepping up when called to suggest she would make any significant Liberal impact during that period?
3.? Do you think the RNC should help pay off the DNC's campaign debt?
Another why. I must be falling behind on news headlines. Given that the coming administration is all about business, how would this be a profitable investment?
4.? ?Should Trump be allowed to appoint who he wants to his cabinet?
Within the limits of legality and ethics, sure. He has his vision and it was voted into office, so it seems a bit obstructionist to deny him the tools to try it out.
5.? Liberal women are threatening a sex strike? - is this a good thing?
IMHO, we have too many people on this planet for the lifestyles?we are pursuing. I could do with about a third the population. I am sure we could support many times what we are in a harmonious manner, but we would have to adopt such a manner before we could avoid trashing the place. I happen?to like the forests, wide open spaces and elbow room, but I am also a notorious introvert!
On a more personal level, I believe that even if I were single, there are plenty?of heterosexual women around with healthy libidos, partnership preferences and politically neutral attitudes to more than compensate for the dating opportunities lost!
For reasons related to those in the last sentence, I also suspect this fad will be relatively short-lived.
Re: [Owner] Re: [PhilosophicalM] Firday FIve November 14
1.? Does Putin's comment about Trump's behavior after becoming shot impress you?ti
Don't?know;I haven't heard Putin's comment.
2.? Do you think Biden will resign so Harris can be an interim president?
Not likely, but Biden has done similar things all in the name of virtue-signaling.
3.? Do you think the RNC should help pay off the DNC's campaign debt
Hell, no! ? The DNC spent almost three times as much as the RNC, and ended up spending more than they took in and lost miserably.? Their commercials assumed that the voters were stupid, and they repeatedly?played the same ones hundreds of times in quick succession.
4.? ?Should Trump be allowed to appoint who he wants to his cabinet
Subject to congressional approval, as all other presidents have.? A few might get rejected, and I assume that Trump has sent a few out there to stir up the Democrats and liberal Republicans, and they might get rejected, but almost all the rest will be confirmed.
5.? LIberal women are threatening a sex strike? - is this a good thing?
This is either Lysistrata or Thezmorphoriazusae, I'm not sure, but it's just an elitist ploy to dig at the uneducated masses who voted for Trump,?not a serious movement.
Just about all the wide gap shows, I'm guessing, is that people who live in and are dependent on the close control of the governments of large cities are not yet as numerous as the rest of us. ?Have a look at your local maps showing where the red and blue votes came from. ?Ohio, my state, has no mega cities, but its four largish cities are all blue and all the rest of the state is red. ?It's dramatic. ?It's the same with the contiguous forty states: ?blue in the tightly packed coastal regions and red everywhere else.
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People who live in tightly-packed agglomerations are, I think, much more prone to groupthink than the rest of us. ?Just to survive, city people need in a thousand ways to all behave in exactly the same way, and behaving leads directly to thinking. ?Cities breed mono-minds. ?Mono-minds vote for the machine.
Canada has the same voting pattern, long standing and well known. It is Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver that elect the leftists. I agree with your take, above, and also have long believed that it reflects the fact that country people are wise, city slickers are not. The city slickers may be smart, but they're always chasing trends and virtue signalling, terribly concerned about their images and how they are seen by everyone else, all about style but never have any substance. The very description of the left. Country people tend instead to be down-to-earth and sensible, grounded in reality, and characterized by substance and wisdom. The ideas and policies of the right of course are based on substance and wisdom, while those of the left are about doing something new and different. risky and amusing, because they're bored. There is no wisdom in leftist ideas or policies, ever.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
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Darrell answered.
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Not really. I felt?it could go either way, but I was little surprised by size of the gap favoring the Republicans.
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Just about all the wide gap shows, I'm guessing, is that people who live in and are dependent on the close control of the governments of large cities are not yet as numerous as the rest of us. ?Have a look at your local maps showing where the red and blue votes came from. ?Ohio, my state, has no mega cities, but its four largish cities are all blue and all the rest of the state is red. ?It's dramatic. ?It's the same with the contiguous forty states: ?blue in the tightly packed coastal regions and red everywhere else.
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People who live in tightly-packed agglomerations are, I think, much more prone to groupthink than the rest of us. ?Just to survive, city people need in a thousand ways to all behave in exactly the same way, and behaving leads directly to thinking. ?Cities breed mono-minds. ?Mono-minds vote for the machine.
A name Democrats call anyone who disagrees with them?
It's an authoritarian and autocratic form of governing that is closely related to communism. Under both regimes, the collective takes precedent over individuals. The main difference between fascism and communism is that under communism the dictator seizes, owns and controls everything, there is no individual ownership. Under fascism business owners are allowed to own their businesses, but the dictator controls them, and uses the businesses to achieve its own agenda.?
The Dems habit of calling everyone, particularly Donald Trump, a fascist is amusing and ironic. President Trump's beliefs and operations are the direct opposite of fascism. He believes in, and honours, individuals above all else. He believes in the free market, and leaving people alone to run their businesses in the best way they see fit. He recognizes that the true job of government is to create an environment in which businesses, and people, can thrive and prosper. The Dems, on the other hand, are actively practicing fascism right now, and have been for some time. Their demands that social media suppress various information, enforced by intimidation from the FBI, is fascism. Their use of the media and social media to spread disinformation, as they did throughout covid and beyond, is fascism. Their appalling lawfare against their political rivals, used most egregiously against President Trump, is fascism. The Dems calling Mr. Trump a fascist is far beyond the pot calling the kettle black. It is the pot calling the fresh snowfall black.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Of course. Why not? A President can't vet them all by himself. It would have no impact on the Senate or whomever approving them or whatever they do, that is a separate matter.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Because I knew the Democrats would do everything in their power to cheat the system and steal the election - again. They tried, but failed, for a few reasons. The margin by which Trump votes exceeded Harris votes was large enough to make cheating more difficult. And the Trump team knew what they had done last time, and actively resisted the same tactics. They had thousands of lawyers all over the country standing ready, for example, to fight when the Dems tried to exclude Republican observers from the voting areas, or smuggle in piles of fraudulent Harris votes, or any number of other dirty Democrat tricks. The lawyers were kept very busy, and it worked. The rightful candidate won this time.
Aside from being surprised, I am absolutely jubilant, relieved, and thankful. The whole world needs President Trump. He will end the wars, extend peace in the middle east through the Abraham accords, end the idiocy of gender woo-woo in schools, get men and boys out of women's washrooms and dressing rooms and sports, kick out the millions of illegal criminals that have flooded across the southern border over the last 4 years, which will also get rid of thousands of jihadis planted to terrorize and destroy. He will cut out the "climate change" nonsense that is destroying the economy and the environment. And he will stimulate economic recovery.
?A Kamala Harris presidency was simply unthinkable. ?It would be a continuation of the Biden mess, and probably worse. Kamala, like Justin Trudeau, is vacuous and stupid, driven by far-left woke ideology, and would be a very weak leader. Trudeau has destroyed Canada, but Harris would do far worse. The rest of the world ignores Trudeau, he has no influence nor impact beyond Canada. But the USA, like it or not, is the policeman of the world, because it is the only benevolent superpower. A weak US president sets all the bad actors of the world free to do what they please. Biden's weakness and incompetence caused Putin to feel free to invade Ukraine, and Iran to feel free to send its loathesome terrorists Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis to invade and attack Israel. Harris would be at least as weak and incompetent as Biden, and the carnage would continue, with China seizing Taiwan and every other bad actor scrambling to grab whatever they could. The Bad Guys are already backing down, with Putin signalling a readiness to make a deal, and Hamas saying they are ready to quit, and President Trump hasn't even been sworn into office yet. The world respects and fears a strong, decisive leader. The world laughs and thumbs their noses at feckless clowns like Biden, Harris and Trudeau.
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Rumour isn't quite the right word, more like disinformation, and includes every single thing that Kamala Harris claimed she believed or would do if she were elected. Not before of course, not now, even though she is the VP. Perhaps the most amusing was the pretense that all those clueless celebrities endorsed her, when it turns out she paid them $millions to do so, leaving her campaign in debt despite having over $1Billion to spend. The Great Endorsement Hoax of 2024!
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Of course. The Democrats have proven that they will do anything to grab and hold on to power, up to and including using the legal system to harass and remove political opponents, and attempted assassination. I don't expect them to simply accept that they have lost. And they're practiced at instigating riots - they were behind Jan 6, with FBI and Antifa thugs hidden among the crowd to do the dirty work. But I'm more concerned about additional attempts on President Trump's life.
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1.? What is a fascist?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
On Nov 9, 2024, at 07:37, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
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Thank you, all, for the replies and comments. Certainly then similar words have different meanings and implications in different cultures.?
It is unfortunate (to say the least) when a candidate that has much chance of becoming a strong presidential authority seems unreliable on their public words and expressions using eithe falsehoods or unsubstantiated rumors. We've had our more than acceptable share of that over the years, to the point of a special private web being created as fact checkers:??(btw, one the creators and current owner is a local mensa).
Ref turning elections by the ellectoral college, thak you, Celeste. I see that in those cases were the result was changed, both candidats were pretty even (still it seems a political negotation took place: the less voted parties will ally themselves giving the second candidate a winning chance).?
In Argentina we had ellectoral college on and off until 1994, and since then a direct voting system was implemented (not that is guarantees truthfulness in popular will, but that's another story).
There was a saying an old professor of mine used to say: to the Usian their best interest is a winning democrat, but for LA it's republican. Of course, neither leftists nor conservatives would agree.?
I believe that Trump, with the "make america great again" will work to create a new cold war, in coincidence with Russia and China. It might have some value for usians. But it's not good for the rest of the world.
Slds
Anabel?
El sábado, 9 de noviembre de 2024, 01:01:36 a.?m. ART, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> escribió:
There is an abundance of
jobs in Springfield because a bunch of new companies moved there
and opened facilities. So they needed the added population as
workers.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 2:22 PM, Marvin wrote:
They were brought it en
mass to a small community - they overran the commujity
services available.? The number whould have been limited to
something like one percent of the original population instead
of 35%..? And what kind of work was available - were they
taking those jobs and what happened to locals who would have
been available.
Celeste wrote:
And the Haitians
were not there illegally. That was the other part of that
false rumor. The Haitians went there because there was work
available for them.
On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin
wrote:
The
dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000
Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
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1) Mirriam Webster
online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
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2) (Now-)
President Trump mentioned during an interview or
debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in
Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true
(it was never substantiated), would have been a very
serious breach of US hospitality.
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Good hearing from
you again!
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at
3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions
and the answers.
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Celeste
mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying
in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning
someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead
of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be
rumors that chinese restaurants used rats
and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But
what does any of it have to do with the
elections?
The "winner" did not lose anything; in 2000 and 2016, no candidate had the majority of the vote.? The Democrats only had a plurality.? Look at it this way: if three candidates all had about the same votes, but one had 34%, he would not be the "winner," almost 2/3 would have voted for someone else.
Thank you, all, for the replies and comments. Certainly then similar words have different meanings and implications in different cultures.?
It is unfortunate (to say the least) when a candidate that has much chance of becoming a strong presidential authority seems unreliable on their public words and expressions using eithe falsehoods or unsubstantiated rumors. We've had our more than acceptable share of that over the years, to the point of a special private web being created as fact checkers:??(btw, one the creators and current owner is a local mensa).
Ref turning elections by the ellectoral college, thak you, Celeste. I see that in those cases were the result was changed, both candidats were pretty even (still it seems a political negotation took place: the less voted parties will ally themselves giving the second candidate a winning chance).?
In Argentina we had ellectoral college on and off until 1994, and since then a direct voting system was implemented (not that is guarantees truthfulness in popular will, but that's another story).
There was a saying an old professor of mine used to say: to the Usian their best interest is a winning democrat, but for LA it's republican. Of course, neither leftists nor conservatives would agree.?
I believe that Trump, with the "make america great again" will work to create a new cold war, in coincidence with Russia and China. It might have some value for usians. But it's not good for the rest of the world.
Slds
Anabel?
El sábado, 9 de noviembre de 2024, 01:01:36 a.?m. ART, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> escribió:
There is an abundance of
jobs in Springfield because a bunch of new companies moved there
and opened facilities. So they needed the added population as
workers.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 2:22 PM, Marvin wrote:
They were brought it en
mass to a small community - they overran the commujity
services available.? The number whould have been limited to
something like one percent of the original population instead
of 35%..? And what kind of work was available - were they
taking those jobs and what happened to locals who would have
been available.
Celeste wrote:
And the Haitians
were not there illegally. That was the other part of that
false rumor. The Haitians went there because there was work
available for them.
The
dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000
Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster
online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-)
President Trump mentioned during an interview or
debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in
Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true
(it was never substantiated), would have been a very
serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from
you again!
?
?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at
3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions
and the answers.
?
Celeste
mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying
in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning
someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead
of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be
rumors that chinese restaurants used rats
and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But
what does any of it have to do with the
elections?
David Smith