Re: What happened to climate change?
Jim,
Your comments are also pretty silly.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 10:57 AM, jimntempe wrote:
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Everything is a hallmark of climate change.? More snow.? Less
Snow.? More wind. Less wind.? More rain.? Less rain. Higher highs.
Lower lows.? More growth.? Less Growth.
Celeste wrote:
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Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were
wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of
climate change.
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Re: What happened to climate change?
Everything is a hallmark of climate change.? More snow.? Less Snow.? More wind. Less wind.? More rain.? Less rain. Higher highs. Lower lows.? More growth.? Less Growth. ===========
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Re: What happened to climate change?
From:?a1thighmaster
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2024 12:00:52 EST
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Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
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Re: What happened to climate change?
Ed,
ROTFLMAO!!! Why would someone else's irrelevant opinion be a
response from you? My guess is that you are simply unable to
support you stance.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 10:34 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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CS
Lewis, the author and Christian theologian, was, perhaps not
surprisingly, a great advocate of reading old books. This, he
argued, forcibly reminded you that every age had its
characteristic assumptions and errors. Past controversies showed
that “both sides were usually assuming without question a good
deal which we should now absolutely deny”, and were “all the
time secretly united ... by a great mass of common assumptions”.
Lewis’s
point was that we should try to remember the same thing would be
true of the present day, too: there would be assumptions so
widespread, so taken for granted, that they would go
unquestioned and unchallenged."
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Ed Lomas wrote:
From
900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by
the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were
several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm
spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple
hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is
excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and
jet airplanes.
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the
"important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two
rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever
that have changed in the last 50 years (or less),
like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local
small clearly human driven changes, like
deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate
barren places in just a couple of years. Both are
easily seen by any individual that just takes a look
and verified by any number of scientific and
economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is
what causes the first macro changes: is it human
driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything
about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human
influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in
Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general
temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it
has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's
still room for faith and cherrypicking the science
that will support one explanation or the other.
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Re: What happened to climate change?
CS Lewis, the author and Christian theologian, was, perhaps not surprisingly, a great advocate of reading old books. This, he argued, forcibly reminded you that every age had its characteristic assumptions and errors. Past controversies showed that “both sides were usually assuming without question a good deal which we should now absolutely deny”, and were “all the time secretly united ... by a great mass of common assumptions”. Lewis’s point was that we should try to remember the same thing would be true of the present day, too: there would be assumptions so widespread, so taken for granted, that they would go unquestioned and unchallenged."
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Ed Lomas via <relomas2= [email protected]> wrote: From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.Ed On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= yahoo.com.ar@groups.io> wrote: Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
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Re: What happened to climate change?
Ed,
Blah blah blah blah. That's all been looked at and it has nothing
to do with fossil fuel burning, which is what has been happening
for the last 100 or so years. The average global temperature has
already risen and we have the capability to prevent the impending
disasters that continued temperature rise would cause. Interesting
to see that you care so little about your fellow humans.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 9:26 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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Show quoted text
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed
by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were
several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm
spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple
hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is
excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet
airplanes.
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the
"important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules:
there are some macro patterns or whatever that have
changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding
icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly
human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage
of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple
of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that
just takes a look and verified by any number of
scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is
what causes the first macro changes: is it human
driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything
about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human
influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in
Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general
temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has
been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's
still room for faith and cherrypicking the science
that will support one explanation or the other.
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART,
Celeste escribió:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong?
Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history"
?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers)
learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as
usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on
dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts
possibly be wrong?!
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Re: What happened to climate change?
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It was a lot more widespread than the recent one.
And the biggest problem is that we don't have consistent sites to measure - geography changes and so does observed temberature
?
Thx, I didn't know the term. Here's a somewhat short study about it in english:
But it states that the thermal difference with modern times was less than 2?C... and it seems this last century global warming is bigger than that.
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
?
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
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?
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 16:37:05 ART, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> escribió:
?
?
?
During the Medieval Warm Period wine grapes were grown in England.? During the 1816 cold year the Thames froze.? So climate swings are not new.
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
?
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
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?
?
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
?
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
Thx, I didn't know the term. Here's a somewhat short study about it in english:
But it states that the thermal difference with modern times was less than 2?C... and it seems this last century global warming is bigger than that.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem #CustomsaduanaS #ForoATAsARG #DJONP #DJCP #TAD
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 16:37:05 ART, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> escribió:
?
During the Medieval Warm Period wine grapes were grown in England.? During the 1816 cold year the Thames froze.? So climate swings are not new.
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
?
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem
#CustomsaduanaS
#ForoATAsARG
#DJONP #DJCP #TAD
?
?
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
?
I live on a Pelstocene Marine Terrace left over from a period about 12,000 years ago when sea level was about a hundred feet higher.? And fossils on the sea floor off my coast indicate that sometime not long before that sea levels were about fifty feet lower.
Change hapnens - deal with it
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
?
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem
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#ForoATAsARG
#DJONP #DJCP #TAD
?
?
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
?
During the Medieval Warm Period wine grapes were grown in England.? During the 1816 cold year the Thames froze.? So climate swings are not new.
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
?
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem
#CustomsaduanaS
#ForoATAsARG
#DJONP #DJCP #TAD
?
?
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes. Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
#ReportSystem #CustomsaduanaS #ForoATAsARG #DJONP #DJCP #TAD
El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
Descarga de Insumos en PreDespachos, LNA, Facturación Electrónica, SETI Autoarchivo, i-Sap...???Qué necesitás?
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> escribió:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
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Re: What happened to climate change?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
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Re: What happened to climate change?
I understand that we continue to set records across multiple metrics when compared to recorded history. Without any intent to venture into the politics?associated with this topic, about which I care nothing, my impression is that a solid case has been made for enduring changes to global weather patterns. Metrics include sea level changes, ice quantity reductions, exposed permafrost?expanses, land temperature?ranges, ocean surface temperatures, ocean current changes and expansive?biosphere changes such as Amazon deforestation. For me, all these point to enduring meteorological changes. Climate change.
Note that by "politics" I mean what industries are getting more money, what national interests are benefiting?from restricting oil industries or promoting wind farms, what political population segments are backing which related conceptual perspectives, who is starving and who is thriving. Those are all social?considerations. When I use the word "climate", I am referring?to meteorological and geological phenomena. The word (or phrase climate change) has apparently been co-opted?by political?activism lately. Totally valid subject more properly labeled as climate change-related social impacts!?A pet peeve.
Climate, conditions of the??at a particular location over a long period of time; it is the long-term summation of the atmospheric elements (and their variations) that, over short time periods,??. These elements are?,?,?,??(type, frequency, and amount),?, and??(speed and direction)...
Thanks for the link, Ed. Was interesting. Obviously we cannot yet determine whether this is a lasting phenomenon, especially?given the typical time periods for human-significant climate changes, but the evidence leaves me wary. On a human interest level, I am less concerned with an Apocalyptic?climate-related?event than with the confluence of moderate multiple social stressors,?including lasting weather patterns. From the perspective of assessing any one of these stressors, however, having access to concise studies and reports is always a boon!
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 6:15?AM Ed Lomas < relomas2@...> wrote: The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again. How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
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What happened to climate change?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again. How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
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Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
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On Feb 18, 2024, at 05:31, FreedomRocks <HomeOfLove69@...> wrote:
? <<People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? ?>>
Thanks for the link, I stand corrected. I was 10 years old when Reagan was elected, and had zero interest (as did my parents) in politics during my high school years, so I really don’t remember anything about his presidency. Only that my soap operas were interrupted for like 2 weeks because of the Iran-Contra hearings. When I did get into following politics in college and afterwards, I had just heard/read many times that he had Alzheimer’s during his years in office, and made the mistake of accepting that as fact without actually checking into the veracity of it. When David challenged me to list a source, or 3, I was surprised that there weren’t any easy to find sources, but figured that was due to Google’s search function being so dysfunctional. I’m not a big fan of Snopes, but they do seem to have all the facts listed, and there is no actual evidence, and indeed seems unlikely, that he was suffering from Alzheimer’s while in office. ? Rhonda
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Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
<<People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? ?>>
Thanks for the link, I stand corrected. I was 10 years old when Reagan was elected, and had zero interest (as did my parents) in politics during my high school years, so I really don’t remember anything about his presidency. Only that my soap operas were interrupted for like 2 weeks because of the Iran-Contra hearings. When I did get into following politics in college and afterwards, I had just heard/read many times that he had Alzheimer’s during his years in office, and made the mistake of accepting that as fact without actually checking into the veracity of it. When David challenged me to list a source, or 3, I was surprised that there weren’t any easy to find sources, but figured that was due to Google’s search function being so dysfunctional. I’m not a big fan of Snopes, but they do seem to have all the facts listed, and there is no actual evidence, and indeed seems unlikely, that he was suffering from Alzheimer’s while in office. ? Rhonda
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Re: Kamala flunks American History
Ed,
Or maybe you've flunked American history.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/17/2024 10:13 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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Kamala
Harris on Trump: ‘No previous US president has bowed down to a
Russian dictator before’
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Kamala flunks American History
Kamala Harris on Trump: ‘No previous US president has bowed down to a Russian dictator before’
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Re: [Owner] Re: [PhilosophicalM] Firday F9ve February 16
There was also something in there about the results being edited by removing one person's group of responses when they were more than two standard deviation from the mean.? Second, look at the scatter grams-?very poor correlation, even after editing the outliers. That paper is a great example of crap statistics. Ed
On Saturday, February 17, 2024, David Smith via <dvdcsmth= [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks!
// ? ? ?Key word counts previously associated with cognitive decline in Alzheimer’s disease were extracted and regression analyses were conducted. President Reagan showed a significant reduction in the number of unique words over time and a significant increase in conversational fillers and non-specific nouns over time.?? ? ?//
Sounds vague.? Not a clear diagnosis, yes?? Suggestive doesn't say much to me, though I confess to lacking much trust in diagnoses from psych experts on the whole.
? <<// ? ? ?We now know that Reagan had serious Alzheimer's during his the latter years of his presidency.?? ? ?// Could be, but I don't know it.? I'd appreciate a respectable reference or three.>>
OK, I don’t have 3 references, but here is 1:
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Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
No, FDR was in a wheelchair, and the favorable press kept that secret, but being crippled by polio is not as serious as mobility problems due to advanced aging.? FDR was re-elected even when it was a poorly-kept secret that he was dying, which he did, five months after the election and three months into his 4th term, at the age of 63. Ed
On Saturday, February 17, 2024, Darrell King < DarrellGKing@...> wrote: Use of a walker would not legally disqualify Biden from holding office,?I believe, but it might influence his reelection vote.
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On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:26?AM Ed Lomas < relomas2@...> wrote: My phone is acting up this morning, dropping messages and losing connections.? I don't know whether it's Verizon or Google.
Someone posted as a matter of fact that Reagan had Alzheimer's during his presidency.? Dave asked for a reference. ?
People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? Ed
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