Re: Friday Five November 8
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This election it would not have mattered.
Marvin
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Oh...Ohio is not in Pennsylvania...?
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Marvin
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Hi, Anabel!
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1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
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2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
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Good hearing from you again!
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I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
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Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento pol¨ªtico y social de car¨¢cter totalitario que se desarroll¨® en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltaci¨®n nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos pol¨ªticos similares surgidos en otros pa¨ªses.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocr¨¢tica que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
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? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be?
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribi¨®:
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Why even bother going inside?
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
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On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote:
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
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And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
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They were brought it en mass to a small community - they overran the commujity services available.? The number whould have been limited to something like one percent of the original population instead of 35%..? And what kind of work was available - were they taking those jobs and what happened to locals who would have been available.
Marvin
And the Haitians were not there illegally. That was the other part of that false rumor. The Haitians went there because there was work available for them.
Aloha,
Celeste
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On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin wrote:
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
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1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
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2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
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Good hearing from you again!
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
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Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
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Re: Friday Five November 8
Oh...Ohio is not in Pennsylvania...? D
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Marvin
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Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from you again!
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D
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I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
?
-
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento pol¨ªtico y social de car¨¢cter totalitario que se desarroll¨® en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltaci¨®n nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos pol¨ªticos similares surgidos en otros pa¨ªses.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocr¨¢tica que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
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? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be?
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribi¨®:
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Why even bother going inside?
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D
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
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On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote:
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
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And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
And the Haitians were not
there illegally. That was the other part of that false rumor. The
Haitians went there because there was work available for them.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin wrote:
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where
20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
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1) Mirriam Webster
online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-) President
Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a
then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania
were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never
substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of
US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from you
again!
?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at
3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions and
the answers.
?
Celeste
mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in
Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can
be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild
rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that
chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead
of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it
have to do with the elections?
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Re: Friday Five November 8
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Read the constitution!
I actually read it in the doctors office yesterday - and gave my pocket copy to the medical assistant who knew very litte but was curious.
The popular vote has nothing to do the the presidential election - which has not happened yet.
Marvin
Anabel,
Yes, it has.
Aloha,
Celeste
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On 11/8/2024 12:18 PM, Anabel Perez wrote:
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Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
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Re: Friday Five November 8
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Marvin
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Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from you again!
?
D
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I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
?
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Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento pol¨ªtico y social de car¨¢cter totalitario que se desarroll¨® en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltaci¨®n nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos pol¨ªticos similares surgidos en otros pa¨ªses.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocr¨¢tica que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
?
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be?
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribi¨®:
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Why even bother going inside?
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D
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
?
On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote:
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
?
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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D
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
Anabel,
Yes, it has.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 12:18 PM, Anabel Perez
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Ahh, true.
But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the
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"Facismo" no es m¨¢s que una palabra que suena "educada" para "gente a la que detestamos profundamente". ?Tire su diccionario. ?Hoy en d¨ªa, las palabras se utilizan para significar lo que el usuario quiere que signifiquen. ?La traducci¨®n siempre es necesaria cuando se vive fuera de la burbuja de los usuarios.
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On Nov 8, 2024, at 17:18, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
? I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento pol¨ªtico y social de car¨¢cter totalitario que se desarroll¨® en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltaci¨®n nacionalista. 2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos pol¨ªticos similares surgidos en otros pa¨ªses. 3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocr¨¢tica que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo. Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura. Ant.: antifascismo.
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be? ?2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees? ?Why not? As long as it's within budget.?3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes? Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome??4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season? Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections??5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election? Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via groups.io <darrellgking@...> escribi¨®:
Why even bother going inside?
D The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
Slave market. ?Sick. ?Move, Ed, before they sell you.
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On Nov 8, 2024, at 14:30, Ed Lomas via groups.io <relomas2@...> wrote:
?The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies. On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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On Nov 8, 2024, at 12:17, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
? Oh, David, you can feel free to say what you really think?here. We are a safe environment!
:) 1.? What is a fascist?
An adherent of facism? I am not sure of the implied question, but my knee-jerk is that the term popularly refers?to anyone supporting a dictator.
often?Fascism?:?a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the?) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized??government headed by a??leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition?--
It's come by the political opposition and the news media to mean "a very, very, very bad heterosexual White male plotting and sneering frightfully and frighteningly just off stage".? My sense is that they think that by calling Trump a "Fascist" or a "Nazi", instead of simply "an aspiring dictator", they sound as though they have a deep understanding of history and so, as highly educated experts, can be trusted to know whereof they proclaim.? It's propaganda language.? All they're really saying is that he is an evil man who if elected and inaugurated would do unbelievably beastly things to the transsexual children upon whom the shining future of this disgracefully racist country depends .? The deplorable fools elected him anyway.
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Hi, Anabel!
1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
Good hearing from you again!
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I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento pol¨ªtico y social de car¨¢cter totalitario que se desarroll¨® en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltaci¨®n nacionalista. 2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos pol¨ªticos similares surgidos en otros pa¨ªses. 3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocr¨¢tica que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo. Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura. Ant.: antifascismo.
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be? ?2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees? ?Why not? As long as it's within budget.?3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes? Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome??4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season? Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections??5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election? Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribi¨®:
Why even bother going inside?
D The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento pol¨ªtico y social de car¨¢cter totalitario que se desarroll¨® en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltaci¨®n nacionalista. 2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos pol¨ªticos similares surgidos en otros pa¨ªses. 3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocr¨¢tica que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo. Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura. Ant.: antifascismo.
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be? ?2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees? ?Why not? As long as it's within budget.?3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes? Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome??4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season? Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections??5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election? Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via groups.io <darrellgking@...> escribi¨®:
Why even bother going inside?
D The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
Why even bother going inside?
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
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On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five November 8
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Everything but your ast sentence I agree with.
Marvin'
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Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Good one!
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
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And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
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Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five Novbember 8
An interesting observation, David. I will let it simmer some...
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Darrell answered.
Not really. I felt?it could go either way, but I was little surprised by size of the gap favoring the Republicans.
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Just about all the wide gap shows, I'm guessing, is that people who live in and are dependent on the close control of the governments of large cities are not yet as numerous as the rest of us.? Have a look at your local maps showing where the red and blue votes came from.? Ohio, my state, has no mega cities, but its four largish cities are all blue and all the rest of the state is red.? It's dramatic.? It's the same with the contiguous forty states: ?blue in the tightly packed coastal regions and red everywhere else.
People who live in tightly-packed agglomerations are, I think, much more prone to groupthink than the rest of us.? Just to survive, city people need in a thousand ways to all behave in exactly the same way, and behaving leads directly to thinking.? Cities breed mono-minds.? Mono-minds vote for the machine.
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Oh, David, you can feel free to say what you really think?here. We are a safe environment!
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1.? What is a fascist?
An adherent of facism? I am not sure of the implied question, but my knee-jerk is that the term popularly refers?to anyone supporting a dictator.
often?Fascism?:?a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the?) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized??government headed by a??leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition?--
It's come by the political opposition and the news media to mean "a very, very, very bad heterosexual White male plotting and sneering frightfully and frighteningly just off stage".? My sense is that they think that by calling Trump a "Fascist" or a "Nazi", instead of simply "an aspiring dictator", they sound as though they have a deep understanding of history and so, as highly educated experts, can be trusted to know whereof they proclaim.? It's propaganda language.? All they're really saying is that he is an evil man who if elected and inaugurated would do unbelievably beastly things to the transsexual children upon whom the shining future of this disgracefully racist country depends .? The deplorable fools elected him anyway.
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However, I would?have guessed it began with the development of tribal groups early in Humanity's history. The exaltation of tribe (including the racial identity of members) under a strong leader planting the seeds for future dictators. I suppose I am overthinking again...
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1.? What is a fascist?
I actually intended to aak what is fascism - but also where it started
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An adherent of facism? I am not sure of the implied question, but my knee-jerk is that the term popularly refers?to anyone supporting a dictator.
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often?Fascism?:?a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the?) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized??government headed by a??leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition?--
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
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I am not sure because there are so many unstated supporting?details,?such as the question of who is paying. I would guess that there would be a whole bevy of civil?rights concerns to consider, not to mention the possibility of abuse via using paid special interests to approve public officials. Offhand, I would say no without hearing a good and comprehensive case in favor.
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
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Not really. I felt?it could go either way, but I was little surprised by size of the gap favoring the Republicans.
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Really? How does one rate these? Government conspiracies?abound.
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The strangest lack I noticed was that there could be such a surge in?UFO attention and so much effort and money suddenly spent on?space-related projects without a major response from the rumor mill. To be smack in the middle?of Covid, large-scale?weather extremes and global social/national unrest and yet still be applying major resources to reaching Mars seems a little odd to me. It is quite obvious Elon is extraterrestrial and our political leaders are paid alien agents.
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
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I expect there will be more to come, but likely different?in progression?and presentation from the Covid-era riot...er, demonstrating. I expect that ongoing warfare, civil issues and economic pressures, coupled with the increasing intensity of natural disruptions, will gradually increase social distress until sporadic unrest and violence leads to increasing social efforts to exert control. Which may evolve into?a self-perpetuating cycle. People?who are hungry, unhoused, ill and hopeless have little to lose.
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