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Re: Friday Five August 10
Marvin wrote: "If Iran uses nuclear weapons including just radioactive additions to conventional explosives I think Israel would make sure Tehran is not habitable for a few decades." That's a big concern, since a conventional bomb with some radioactive elements attached could contaminate a large part of a city and render it inhabitable. On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 8:18?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five August 10
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? 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
The bigger question is who determines the badness of an individual 2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global? I think it already has. 3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab? Very likely - as one poster put it - it has already started 4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth? To tell a liie one has to know the truth - otherwise a person is merely ignorant - which happens to all of us. 5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility? It sees to - the one recent exception was Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. |
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Re: Friday Five August 10
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If Iran uses nuclear weapons including just radioactive additions to conventional explosives I think Israel would make sure Tehran is not inhabitablle for a few decades. 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual? ?
That all depends on what you mean by "ethical," "rejoice," and "bad." ??
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global? ?
It certainly has that possibility, though it's also preventable if the USA and Russia would just stay out of it.? Neither country really has the heart to go to war over the?Middle East, but the USA is so pro-Isreali and anti-Iranian that we could get involved, especially if Iran uses nuclear weapons on Israel.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab? ?
Russia, China, and North Korea, are all possibilities, depending on how desperate they get or what opportunities they see with a weakened USA making mistakes or getting overextended somewhere.
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4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth? ?
One is accidental, the other is deliberate.? Being wrong on something is no sin, but spreading something that is known to be untrue is.
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility? ?
Voters have shown a historical preference for taller candidates, just as they often prefer men and more handsome and younger candidates.? Some short politicians have been very successful, though, so it depends on who they are running against.
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On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 6:21?PM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five August 10
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual? That all depends on what you mean by "ethical," "rejoice," and "bad." ?? 2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global? It certainly has that possibility, though it's also preventable if the USA and Russia would just stay out of it.? Neither country really has the heart to go to war over the?Middle East, but the USA is so pro-Isreali and anti-Iranian that we could get involved, especially if Iran uses nuclear weapons on Israel. 3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab? Russia, China, and North Korea, are all possibilities, depending on how desperate they get or what opportunities they see with a weakened USA making mistakes or getting overextended somewhere. 4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth? One is accidental, the other is deliberate.? Being wrong on something is no sin, but spreading something that is known to be untrue is. 5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility? Voters have shown a historical preference for taller candidates, just as they often prefer men and more handsome and younger candidates.? Some short politicians have been very successful, though, so it depends on who they are running against. Ed On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 6:21?PM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five August 10
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture. 2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global? I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots. 3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab? Duh. 4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth? Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility? That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions. |
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Re: Friday Five August 10
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2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global? 3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab? 4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth? 5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility? |
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five August 2
Celeste said: "If they have not been detected then how can they be tested?" And Darrell...is still?laughing... On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 1:39?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five August 2
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOn 8/1/2024 7:03 PM, chapman@...
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No, not in any way. This is a very broad question. Which labor saving devices? No. If they have not been detected then how can they be tested? No. Aloha. Celeste Rogers |
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Re: Friday Five August 2
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1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
I think it was an operation by power brokers within the party? - whether to call? it a coup or not is another question. 2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills? To a degree.? I remember a GS9 engineer (working level who eventually went to work for Boeing) telling me 3x4/3 was 3.8.? When I asked him why - he showed me the calculation on a four function calculator.? I have never completely trusted electronic devices ever since. 3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please? Yes - I was bullied in grammer school and high school and in work places over a period of thirtyyears.? Why I never went over the dge is sometimes beyond me - I can understand why these young me go ballistic. 4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population? Emphatically yes 5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump? Very likely - I don't think Putin wants to see Trump in charge again. |
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Re: Friday Five August 2
1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup? Perhaps not intentionally, but I bet it is capitalized on in a similar manner. All's fair in politics, love and war. A man gets ill and it is a weakness for the wolves to exploit! I do not think that the illness was artificially applied, but it was obviously exploited. I have seen a similar mentality at work in Trump's case and I have no doubt there will be extreme ad-hominem styling applied to Harris and Vance and the Democratic VP pick.?? It is justified by the field as shaking out a candidate's suitability and fitness to hold public office. This holds some merit, of course, but there is an approach that uses evidence to substantiate a related assertion and there are also more emotional, assaultive stances. It might be easy to blend and confuse one of the latter with a coup. Bloody arena, that political one! In this case, there is half a chance that the replacement will successful carry the Democrats to victory, so if it was a coup, it was one internal to the party! 2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills? No. I find that one lifetime is not enough to learn all the skills I would like to learn anyway, but having an electric screwdriver or a nail gun means I can explore carpentry further and so I get more exposure?to related skills while also accomplishing things that would not be possible were I needing to spend months learning the proper way to manually drive a nail. In the end, I also learn that latter as a byproduct of being motivated by my accomplishments to do more of the same. Calculators? Well, we needed to do mental math because we did not have them. Now we have?them--and also autos and can openers. If we lose them during Armageddon, there are plenty of references that can be used to return to manual math, but who is to say that would be the best course for humanity, or for me? I follow a skilled young lady on FB who is a skilled knapper of flint and obsidian, a bone worker and wood carver. She also teaches wilderness survival with an emphasis on low-tech tools and primitive skills. Awesome way to revisit history and potentially?useful, even lifesaving, skillsets?ready to learn. It is a shame indoor plumbing, metalworking and refrigerators have eliminated our need to learn these things. 3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please? Yes? I am descended from omnivorous predators, bequeathed a human mind with human emotions and a human life filled with adversity and frustration. I consider this a normal?thought. I do not remember having actually planned a violent assault, but I do remember the occasional?daydream! As an aside, I do not use violence as a tool to a goal except?in self-defense or the protection of others. This is not because I live by superior ideals, but it feels like a native values-driven attitude for me. 4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population? Duh. As I travel?about the U.S., I am often greeted with campground signs admonishing me to avoid carrying firewood from place to place as it transports invasive species about. A simple attempt to regulate an obvious problem. I would place such testing in the same common sense?category.
5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump? Perhaps not primarily, but I bet it is capitalized on in a similar manner. All's fair in politics, love and war. It was a good move and I am sure the?victory will be exploited by the Democratic Party. I cannot grudge that because it was an honest and laudable success. |
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Re: Friday Five August 2
On Thursday, August 1, 2024, mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five August 2
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1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills? 3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please? 4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population? 5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump? |
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Re: [M-Positive} Re: Friday Five July 26
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On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:47?PM 't bill' via M-Positive <m-positive@...> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five July 26
1.? Should Israel be charged with war crimes for attacking Gaza? No, although I am unconcerned with various watchdogs looking into incidents. The overall war effort is an almost inevitable outcome of what happened when it happened, but any alleged crimes need to be individually examined. This should include the actors?involved being each examined, the situation carefully?defined in context (including orders and policies), the individual alignment of every actor (including civilian actions to support Hamas as well as IDF members ethically-evaluated behaviors), and the outcomes of the incident. Each side should be analyzed in this way for each incident proposed to qualify. 2.? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump? Probably better because of human nature: hopes, ambitions, perceived opportunities.? 3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place? Vance? 4.? Should Biden resign the presidency? Not unless he is proven to be unable to continue or he just gets fed up with the whole thing and moves on to do family and fun retirement. 5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? Not even a guess right now, except that I am expecting a profile to balance and bolster Harris's list of firsts. ? |
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Re: Friday Five July 26
. 1.? Should Israel be charged with war crimes for attacking Gaza? ? Of course not. Defending your country against a vicious invading enemy is not a war crime. Trying to rescue your people being held hostage by the most brutal, sub-human creatures on earth is not a war crime. Destroying the fighting capability of an evil, sub-human terrorist gang is not a war crime. And note that Israel is doing all of this while inflicting the smallest amount of damage on the non-combat citizens of any urban warfare in history. Israel should be getting accolades and recognition, both for the amazing precision and care of their fighting, and for helping to save the rest of the world from another evil Islamist terrorist group. Hamas is at least as bad as al Qaeda and Isis, and their goal is not just to destroy Israel, but to go on from there to take over and Islamize the world, together with all the other evil Islamist gangs and regimes.? ? 2.? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump? ? If the voters were sufficiently intelligent and informed, neither of them would have any chance against Mr. Trump. Sadly, that is not the case. There are too many voters with such severe Trump Derangement Syndrome that they would vote for a ham sandwich if it was running as a Democrat. And many of them are stupid enough to vote for a woman just because she is a woman, instead of looking at whether she has any capacity or ability to do the job. Strangely, many of them are the same people who claim not to know what a woman is. ? 3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place? ? No idea. He seems, right now, like the only man who can save the world. But he only gets 4 years. The world is in such a mess, I don't know that it can be saved at all, even by Mr. Trump, and especially in just 4 years. ? 4.? Should Biden resign the presidency? ? Of course he should, the man barely knows where he is or who he is. He is not the president and hasn't been throughout this entire charade of a presidency. But Kamala Harris is just as bad, though in different ways. She may not have dementia or Parkinson's, but she is hopelessly stupid and completely infected and controlled by the woke mind virus. So is/are the shadowy background figures who have been running the presidency for the last 3 1/2 years, so nothing would change if Biden resigned. ? 5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? ? No idea. No doubt she'll pick some woke mind virus infected clown much like herself. The world is watching, and we can only hope that the US voters wake up enough to vote for Mr. Trump, and somehow keep the Democrats from cheating their way into power again. ? Pat
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Re: Friday Five July 26
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, of course. It is already apparent the Kamala Harris is doing better than Trump is. Nobody of any consequence No, he's doing a fine job. We already know it will be Kamala Harris. Aloha, Celeste Rogers |
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five July 26
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No.? Hamas has declared a war of annihilation and Israel is defending itself.? Hamas can stop the attacks on civilians any time they want to pull out of civilian areas. 2/? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump? Knowing what we know now - better. 3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place? Absolutely no idea. 4.? Should Biden resign the presidency? He should have about two years ago - in shame. 5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? Not a clue! ? ? --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M-Scholars and Scribes" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to m-scholars-and-scribes+unsubscribe@.... To view this discussion on the web visit . |
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Re: Friday Five July 26
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Netanyahu should be the one charged with war crimes, and possibly some of his war cabinet and generals. 2/? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump? Harris has a better chance, but she¡¯s a lousy campaigner and lacks charisma, though the fickle and unreliable liberal youth support her. 3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place? Nikki Haley, I hope. 4.? Should Biden resign the presidency? Yes, but he won¡¯t, unless his cabinet invokes the 25th Amendment, which they might do. 5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? Mark Kelley.? He¡¯s the most obnoxious, and they¡¯d drag up the ¡®gee whiz he was an astronaut¡¯ thing and that his wife was shot when she was in Congress. On Friday, July 26, 2024, mrvnchpmn via <chapman=tidepool.com@groups.
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Re: Friday Five July 26
UIET.) 1.? Should Israel be charged with war crimes for attacking Gaza? No. Although some individual IDF personnel may qualify for criminal charges as this is unfortunately a repeating phenomenon in war, the Gaza war to root out a grassroots terrorist group is pretty much a semi-surgical invasion of the local civilian population. I cannot remember one offhand where the invading force won. I feel it must have happened, but I keep thinking?the U.S. in VIetnam or Afghanistan,?the Engl;ish in?Ireland, The Japanese in the Philippines. When the civilian population aids the guerilla forces, it is going to be tough to separate the two with every battle. Note that Israel does?not seem to be targeting supporters actively and exclusively. There are no mass-kill squads shooting down civilian targets. There has been a horrifying number of casualties when Hamas infiltrates and blends with civilian shields, I think. This is a decision Israeli command has to make and one I am glad I do not have to be responsible for. in the end, though, to be guilty of a crime, I would support proof that the attacker was aiming for a non-military target. In Gaza, this means?proving that the target was not being used as refuge or base by terrorists with civilian cooperation. 2.? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump? I think better because all the old momentum based on Biden's health is now spent. 3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place? Vance? 4.? Should Biden resign the presidency? Should the same questions arise in every conversation? :) No, not unless there is medical support for such (or the Biden family would prefer peace and quiet.) Personally, I would last about a week in politics before I just walked out in disgust, so I imagine I am a poor person to ask!
5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? No idea, although as I understand politics, a male to balance Harris's gender, perhaps?of a different ethnic background also. I am unsure whether there is a candidate who is actually qualified to contribute?to world peace and planetary improvement. |
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Re: Friday Five July 26
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