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Lots of kids without ancestors, no? Multiple fathers and multiple mothers don't make clear lines of succession. It sounds to me very messy, Darrell. I suppose it seems fine and normal to you, and that's sort of my point: it *is* perfectly normal. The culture is floundering, flopping around, directionless. In fact, there is no longer a single national culture. My family includes a couple of gay guys who may or may not be married but have succeeded in buying a child perfectly legally. And on it goes, with everyone doing his own thing, with commitments always provisional, with all avenues always open, no stop signs. I know how easy it is to divorce and start over - I'm divorced. Nothing to it. Not a bit of social opprobrium. There are no longer any obstacles to doing anything anyone wants to do. When's the last time you heard the phrase "social standards"?