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Date: 5/3/20 9:10 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
They may not be as different as you think
the RA, you can grab the counterweight shaft, and the movement is amplified. with the dec, there's nothing really to grab to move it or exaggerate the movement
Brian, yesi noticed this with the RA worm blocks. The DEC is tight, no movement at all as far as backlash.
I just assumed that the RA should be the same.Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:48 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
PS?
i should mention that when I first got my spring loaded worms, i did find that a bit surprising.?
You should also notice that the worm gear on RA moves up/down slightly as you move the ra axis back and forth (assuming you have tight clutches) which to me was more alarming! I spent quite a bit of time on this analyzing?it and talking to Scott, and i
eventually came to understand that's how the mount esp. with SLW is supposed to be and it doesn't impact?my tracking
Brian, you can wiggle the RA about 1/4" back and forth.easely.
Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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They may not be as different as you think
the RA, you can grab the counterweight shaft, and the movement is amplified. with the dec, there's nothing really to grab to move it or exaggerate the movement
Brian, yesi noticed this with the RA worm blocks. The DEC is tight, no movement at all as far as backlash.
I just assumed that the RA should be the same.Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:48 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
PS?
i should mention that when I first got my spring loaded worms, i did find that a bit surprising.?
You should also notice that the worm gear on RA moves up/down slightly as you move the ra axis back and forth (assuming you have tight clutches) which to me was more alarming! I spent quite a bit of time on this analyzing?it and talking to Scott, and i
eventually came to understand that's how the mount esp. with SLW is supposed to be and it doesn't impact?my tracking
Brian, you can wiggle the RA about 1/4" back and forth.easely.
Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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Brian, yesi noticed this with the RA worm blocks. The DEC is tight, no movement at all as far as backlash.
I just assumed that the RA should be the same.Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:48 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
PS?
i should mention that when I first got my spring loaded worms, i did find that a bit surprising.?
You should also notice that the worm gear on RA moves up/down slightly as you move the ra axis back and forth (assuming you have tight clutches) which to me was more alarming! I spent quite a bit of time on this analyzing?it and talking to Scott, and i
eventually came to understand that's how the mount esp. with SLW is supposed to be and it doesn't impact?my tracking
Brian, you can wiggle the RA about 1/4" back and forth.easely.
Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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PS?
i should mention that when I first got my spring loaded worms, i did find that a bit surprising.?
You should also notice that the worm gear on RA moves up/down slightly as you move the ra axis back and forth (assuming you have tight clutches) which to me was more alarming! I spent quite a bit of time on this analyzing?it and talking to Scott, and i eventually came to understand that's how the mount esp. with SLW is supposed to be and it doesn't impact?my tracking
Brian, you can wiggle the RA about 1/4" back and forth.easely.
Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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If you have spring-loaded worms, that isn't unusual, particularly if you are describing moving with the counterweight bar
As I mentioned before, in use during tracking there's no RA backlash because there's no direction reversal
hth
Brian, you can wiggle the RA about 1/4" back and forth.easely.
Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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Brian, you can wiggle the RA about 1/4" back and forth.easely.
Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 7:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
--
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Hi Deric
>>> I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away.
how does this show up for you??
RA only moves in one direction, so any backlash that you may have, you wouldn't see it during observation because it only ever moves in one direction
Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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Greg, I probably did not state my self very clear. I have a bit of play or backlash in my RA I wish would go away. The Losmandy heavy duty tripod is as solid as it comes. The Berlebach tripods are nice and there has been many discussions here
and on CN on the merits of the Berlebach's. I am just visual myself.
and that's just fine for me. HAPPYVSKIES Deric
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Date: 5/3/20 4:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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Deric I have the Berlebach Planet. Mine has the double knobs on the legs to keep them tight. I keep my GM811 RA assembly on it all the time. It's easy to carry out to my pad to setup. I'm only doing visual at this time but it works great.
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I have this URL for when I finally put the pier in my back yard and need to align my mount:
-Bob
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I put the mount in the center of its range of azimuth adjustment, and then align the side of the mount toward Polaris if in twilight, or by compass if in daylight, adjusting the compass for local magnetic declination. I don't place the compass near the mount, but rather stand back and sight north to determine if I need to rotate the tripod. This has always been close enough to polar align the mount using the range of azimuth adjustment.
Brett?
This is for anyone who
regularly “goes mobile” to do Astrophotography.. How do *you*
determine how to initially place the tripod??
?
I envision putting the mount
in the center of the Azimuth adjustment range, but when you go to a location
you have never been before, how do you determine where the tripod should be
pointing?? I would be seriously bummed if I assemble the whole system, tried to
polar align, and run out of adjustment so that I would have to disassemble and
rotate the tripod..
?
Can you just place a compass
on the tripod and use that, taking magnetic declination into account?? I would
think the metal in the tripod would make the compass inaccurate??
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Anywho.. I would like to
know the various methods people use..
?
Derek
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I have to deal with this problem in my back yard.? I have no view of polaris, and using a compass always seems to be imprecise.? One technique I've seen "professional astronomers" use is a simple plumb-bob.? Look up solar noon (time the sun is directly south in the sky) for your lat/long.? Next, hang a plumb-bob from your tripod, and at exactly solar noon, take note of the location of the shadow of the string on the ground.? This points exactly toward true north.?
Works like a charm for initial alignment.
Then, at night, use your favorite polar alignment aid/correction software to fine tune things.
Steve
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Just
an FYI.. You say “traditionally”.. Are you aware of their new ones
that they just recently designed and produced?? I know nothing of them.. or the
old models.. as I had no need for one so never looked into them.. nor do I
doubt your impressions.. Just checking to make sure you are talking about their
new offerings..
??? I
do, however, love Stellarvue..
?
Derek
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chip Louie
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020
9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io]
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Derek,
Stellarvue's wood tripods while
pretty are traditionally heavy and quite expensive for the payload they carry.
The Denali is the smallest, lightest model
with a max. height of 41" and weighs about 17lb. For $400 you can buy
better wood tripods for the small AVX class GEM heads from Berlebach. The
Reporter line is lighter and taller and carries telescopes very well, trust me.
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Thank you Chip, I will go with a Berlebach planet. They are proven and well respected.
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Date: 2/3/20 11:54 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
Deric,
Stellarvue's wood tripods while pretty are traditionally heavy and quite expensive for the payload they carry. The Denali is the smallest, lightest model with a max. height of 41" and weighs about 17lb. For $400 you can buy better wood tripods for the small
AVX class GEM heads.?
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Derek,
Stellarvue's wood tripods while pretty are traditionally heavy and quite expensive for the payload they carry. The Denali is the smallest, lightest model with a max. height of 41" and weighs about 17lb. For $400 you can buy better wood tripods for the small AVX class GEM heads from Berlebach. The Reporter line is lighter and taller and carries telescopes very well, trust me.
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Note
that Stellarvue has designed and
sells a wood tripod now.. No idea what it costs, looks like, or how well it
works (or doesn’t), but it’s another option.. Stellarvue’s
Customer Service is second to none, which is useful when needed..
?
Derek
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Deric Caselli
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2020
10:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io]
Initial Setup of the Mount
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Nice Derek, that you don't have to move. Nice place their in the Bay
Area. Easy to get to? dark sites.and not far from michael, if you need
something or other.The Losmandy HD tripod is a beast. But I guess I will try a
Berlebach when I find a GM8 and see it is as nice as they say they are.
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From: Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...>
Date: 2/1/20 10:23 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
I
already had this mount from my 12” LX200.. I left it out so long that the legs
are no longer adjustable for length due to rust, and even though the legs are
frozen at different lengths, it sits perfectly in the front yard since it
became frozen in almost the same spot.. When I bought the used G11 from a guy
30 minutes away, I acquired my 2nd Meade GFT, though that one is
stored inside, having learned my lesson that the legs aren’t meant for long
term exposure..
???
I am hoping that I can dismount the G11 and my scope and take the “good” GFT
mobile, and when I return be able to remount things and have it be rather close
to still polar aligned (as I wouldn’t adjust the mount)..
???
I would have been quite OK w/ a Losmandy tripod.. Maybe that’s because I never
have seen one in person and think it has a smaller foot print and is shorter
when assembled, I don’t know.. The Meade GFT is built like a tank and I have
always believe it would support a bus..
???
A Side Note.. I *really* like the link before.. A Tak refractor on a Titan..
Reminds me of when Michael laughed at me when I was worried that the G11
wouldn’t handle my SVR130 Raptor.. “It wouldn’t even know it’s there” and how
he said it would handle my deforked 12” Meade.. :-))
???
Now to go drive an hour to meet – and THANK – my landlord who turned down the
offer from the guy who *really* wanted to buy this place and ruin everything..
YEAH ME! :-))..
???
OH! If someone has a Losmandy mount and wishes they had a Meade instead, I
would be the guy most convincible of a trade.. At a minimum you’d have to live
in the SF Bay Area.. California
maybe.. I am NOT shipping a Giant Field Tripod..
?Derek
?
?
ah i understand now. that makes more sense
?
Scroll
thru this (not mine) that shows this clearly..
?
?
Derek
?
?
if i'm following this correctly, your non-losmandy legs have only a
center bolt and you've had to figure out workarounds for getting it to not
rotate on top of the tripod?
Boy that sounds like a great argument for going with losmandy tripod!
?
Well
then..
I did it that way, because no matter how tight I
tightened the center bolt (when I first got the mount), once I added the 38
pound G11 and 30 pounds or so of equipment, the T handle under the spreader bar
would invariably not be as tight as it was.. At that point I could not apply
the wrench to hold the nut anymore, since the mount – obviously – hides it..
???
To make it “better”, I learned that as soon as you think your tripod has the
legs spread and it’s level, and everything is tight, to go around to each leg
and pick it up slightly and set them ack down.. Then retighten everything..
Then load the mount and equipment and it is LIKELY to remain all tight..
???
Then, just in case it ever came loose again.. I put the three screws in so the
MA Adapter wouldn’t rotate if the center bolt wasn’t snug enough from all the
slewing of the telescope I do..
???
It didn’t want it to change azimuth and ruin my extensive drift alignment..
?
This
is,also, why I asked a while back about using a compass so that when I set the
mount down initially, I make sure to do it well enough to have adequate range
on the Azimuth adjuster..
?
Derek
?
?
Derek,
To me, discussion are flows of thought. As long as the water keeps flowing, why
dam it up?
Never had a Meade myself. But I've been to .
Yep, I am incorrigible. Sorry Dude.
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Nice Derek, that you don't have to move. Nice place their in the Bay Area. Easy to get to? dark sites.and not far from michael, if you need something or other.The Losmandy HD tripod is a beast. But I guess I will try a Berlebach when I find a GM8 and see
it is as nice as they say they are.
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Date: 2/1/20 10:23 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Initial Setup of the Mount
I already had this mount from my 12” LX200.. I left it out so long that the legs are no longer adjustable
for length due to rust, and even though the legs are frozen at different lengths, it sits perfectly in the front yard since it became frozen in almost the same spot.. When I bought the used G11 from a guy 30 minutes away, I acquired my 2nd Meade
GFT, though that one is stored inside, having learned my lesson that the legs aren’t meant for long term exposure..
??? I am hoping that I can dismount the G11 and my scope and take the “good” GFT mobile, and when
I return be able to remount things and have it be rather close to still polar aligned (as I wouldn’t adjust the mount)..
??? I would have been quite OK w/ a Losmandy tripod.. Maybe that’s because I never have seen one in
person and think it has a smaller foot print and is shorter when assembled, I don’t know.. The Meade GFT is built like a tank and I have always believe it would support a bus..
??? A Side Note.. I *really* like the link before.. A Tak refractor on a Titan.. Reminds me of when
Michael laughed at me when I was worried that the G11 wouldn’t handle my SVR130 Raptor.. “It wouldn’t even know it’s there” and how he said it would handle my deforked 12” Meade.. :-))
??? Now to go drive an hour to meet – and THANK – my landlord who turned down the offer from the guy
who *really* wanted to buy this place and ruin everything.. YEAH ME! :-))..
??? OH! If someone has a Losmandy mount and wishes they had a Meade instead, I would be the guy most
convincible of a trade.. At a minimum you’d have to live in the SF Bay Area.. California maybe.. I am NOT shipping a Giant Field Tripod..
?Derek
?
?
ah i understand now. that makes more sense
?
Scroll thru this (not mine) that shows this clearly..
?
?
Derek
?
?
if i'm following this correctly, your non-losmandy legs have only a center bolt and you've had to figure out workarounds for getting it to not rotate on top of
the tripod?
Boy that sounds like a great argument for going with losmandy tripod!
?
Well then..
I did it that way, because no matter how tight I tightened the center bolt
(when I first got the mount), once I added the 38 pound G11 and 30 pounds or so of equipment, the T handle under the spreader bar would invariably not be as tight as it was.. At that point I could not apply the wrench to hold the nut anymore, since the mount
– obviously – hides it..
??? To make it “better”, I learned that as soon as you think your tripod has the legs spread
and it’s level, and everything is tight, to go around to each leg and pick it up slightly and set them ack down.. Then retighten everything.. Then load the mount and equipment and it is LIKELY to remain all tight..
??? Then, just in case it ever came loose again.. I put the three screws in so the MA Adapter
wouldn’t rotate if the center bolt wasn’t snug enough from all the slewing of the telescope I do..
??? It didn’t want it to change azimuth and ruin my extensive drift alignment..
?
This is,also, why I asked a while back about using a compass so that when I set the mount
down initially, I make sure to do it well enough to have adequate range on the Azimuth adjuster..
?
Derek
?
?
Derek,
To me, discussion are flows of thought. As long as the water keeps flowing, why dam it up?
Never had a Meade myself. But I've been to .
Yep, I am incorrigible. Sorry Dude.
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I
already had this mount from my 12” LX200.. I left it out so long that the
legs are no longer adjustable for length due to rust, and even though the legs
are frozen at different lengths, it sits perfectly in the front yard since it
became frozen in almost the same spot.. When I bought the used G11 from a guy
30 minutes away, I acquired my 2nd Meade GFT, though that one is stored
inside, having learned my lesson that the legs aren’t meant for long term
exposure..
??? I
am hoping that I can dismount the G11 and my scope and take the “good”
GFT mobile, and when I return be able to remount things and have it be rather
close to still polar aligned (as I wouldn’t adjust the mount)..
??? I
would have been quite OK w/ a Losmandy tripod.. Maybe that’s because I
never have seen one in person and think it has a smaller foot print and is
shorter when assembled, I don’t know.. The Meade GFT is built like a tank
and I have always believe it would support a bus..
??? A
Side Note.. I *really* like the link before.. A Tak refractor on a Titan.. Reminds
me of when Michael laughed at me when I was worried that the G11 wouldn’t
handle my SVR130 Raptor.. “It wouldn’t even know it’s there”
and how he said it would handle my deforked 12” Meade.. :-))
??? Now
to go drive an hour to meet – and THANK – my landlord who turned
down the offer from the guy who *really* wanted to buy this place and ruin
everything.. YEAH ME! :-))..
??? OH!
If someone has a Losmandy mount and wishes they had a Meade instead, I would be
the guy most convincible of a trade.. At a minimum you’d have to live in
the SF Bay Area.. California
maybe.. I am NOT shipping a Giant Field Tripod..
?Derek
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020
9:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io]
Initial Setup of the Mount
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ah i understand now. that makes more sense
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Scroll thru this (not mine) that
shows this clearly..
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Derek
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if i'm following
this correctly, your non-losmandy legs have only a center bolt and you've had
to figure out workarounds for getting it to not rotate on top of the tripod?
Boy that sounds
like a great argument for going with losmandy tripod!
?
Well then..
I
did it that way, because no matter how tight I tightened the center bolt (when
I first got the mount), once I added the 38 pound G11 and 30 pounds or so of
equipment, the T handle under the spreader bar would invariably not be as tight
as it was.. At that point I could not apply the wrench to hold the nut anymore,
since the mount – obviously – hides it..
??? To make it
“better”, I learned that as soon as you think your tripod has the
legs spread and it’s level, and everything is tight, to go around to each
leg and pick it up slightly and set them ack down.. Then retighten everything..
Then load the mount and equipment and it is LIKELY to remain all tight..
??? Then, just in
case it ever came loose again.. I put the three screws in so the MA Adapter
wouldn’t rotate if the center bolt wasn’t snug enough from all the
slewing of the telescope I do..
??? It didn’t
want it to change azimuth and ruin my extensive drift alignment..
?
This is,also, why I asked a while
back about using a compass so that when I set the mount down initially, I make
sure to do it well enough to have adequate range on the Azimuth adjuster..
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Derek
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Derek,
To me, discussion are flows of thought. As long as the water keeps flowing, why
dam it up?
Never had a Meade myself. But I've been to .
Yep, I am incorrigible. Sorry Dude.
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ah i understand now. that makes more sense
Scroll
thru this (not mine) that shows this clearly..
?
?
Derek
?
?
if i'm following this correctly, your non-losmandy legs have only a
center bolt and you've had to figure out workarounds for getting it to not
rotate on top of the tripod?
Boy that sounds like a great argument for going with losmandy tripod!
?
Well then..
I
did it that way, because no matter how tight I tightened the center bolt (when
I first got the mount), once I added the 38 pound G11 and 30 pounds or so of
equipment, the T handle under the spreader bar would invariably not be as tight
as it was.. At that point I could not apply the wrench to hold the nut anymore,
since the mount – obviously – hides it..
??? To make it
“better”, I learned that as soon as you think your tripod has the legs spread
and it’s level, and everything is tight, to go around to each leg and pick it
up slightly and set them ack down.. Then retighten everything.. Then load the
mount and equipment and it is LIKELY to remain all tight..
??? Then, just in
case it ever came loose again.. I put the three screws in so the MA Adapter
wouldn’t rotate if the center bolt wasn’t snug enough from all the slewing of
the telescope I do..
??? It didn’t want it
to change azimuth and ruin my extensive drift alignment..
?
This is,also, why I asked a while
back about using a compass so that when I set the mount down initially, I make
sure to do it well enough to have adequate range on the Azimuth adjuster..
?
Derek
?
?
Derek,
To me, discussion are flows of thought. As long as the water keeps flowing, why
dam it up?
Never had a Meade myself. But I've been to .
Yep, I am incorrigible. Sorry Dude.
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-- Brian?
Brian Valente portfolio
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Scroll
thru this (not mine) that shows this clearly..
?
?
Derek
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020
8:05 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io]
Initial Setup of the Mount
?
if i'm following this correctly, your non-losmandy legs have only a
center bolt and you've had to figure out workarounds for getting it to not
rotate on top of the tripod?
Boy that sounds like a great argument for going with losmandy tripod!
?
Well then..
I
did it that way, because no matter how tight I tightened the center bolt (when
I first got the mount), once I added the 38 pound G11 and 30 pounds or so of
equipment, the T handle under the spreader bar would invariably not be as tight
as it was.. At that point I could not apply the wrench to hold the nut anymore,
since the mount – obviously – hides it..
??? To make it
“better”, I learned that as soon as you think your tripod has the legs spread
and it’s level, and everything is tight, to go around to each leg and pick it
up slightly and set them ack down.. Then retighten everything.. Then load the
mount and equipment and it is LIKELY to remain all tight..
??? Then, just in
case it ever came loose again.. I put the three screws in so the MA Adapter
wouldn’t rotate if the center bolt wasn’t snug enough from all the slewing of
the telescope I do..
??? It didn’t want it
to change azimuth and ruin my extensive drift alignment..
?
This is,also, why I asked a while
back about using a compass so that when I set the mount down initially, I make
sure to do it well enough to have adequate range on the Azimuth adjuster..
?
Derek
?
?
Derek,
To me, discussion are flows of thought. As long as the water keeps flowing, why
dam it up?
Never had a Meade myself. But I've been to .
Yep, I am incorrigible. Sorry Dude.
--
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Greg
Chip Louie