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Re: rehab a G11

 

Bob Hancey here, have received some posting for rehab work. May well be the path to repair, but working for success at this point, but the mount may require more than my skills i.e., professional/ divine intervention. Respectfully submitted


g11 control box

 

Hello, Bob Hancey, here, well the rehab of G11 for SVAS continues (previous topic), have managed to get power to unit. The newest problem, the control (handheld) lights up, but the screen is so dim as to be essentially unreadable (looks like opening screen and is blue). The cable is old, but apparently able send a signal. Using Occam's Razor the most likely problem is the cable, but failing that, my next conclusion is the control box is the problem.? However, given my limited insight into this issue I am soliciting any other possible explanations for this issue or solutions.? In an attempt to localize issue will connect my control box and a newer cable (separately) to mount is see if this gives me idea where the problem is. After that I am just lost in space. Respectfully submitted Bob


Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 05:50 PM, Bret Stott wrote:
Yes, a?direct Ethernet connection works (see earlier post).?DHCP does not. ?This is new mount/controller so my?expectation is that it should be fully functional.?
Then Gemini is working, and it's a problem with your network configuration. Perhaps your mesh network or WiFi adapter does not allow Gemini to see the DHCP server from where it is. Try plugging in Gemini ethernet into the router with no intervening WiFi or mesh to see if DHCP starts working. You can also allocate and assign Gemini a static IP address on your subnet, so DHCP will not be required.

As for USB vs Ethernet differences with PEC -- this is true, there are these and other differences between USB and Ethernet, and some are big. Ethernet has a lot more capabilities, is faster, and more reliable over long connections. If you want to use USB, you'll need to accept that there will be some functional limitations with that connection. That's just the reality.

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Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

>> If you want to submit a support ticket please by all means do that and we can take it from there

I submitted a support ticket.


Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

Yes, a?direct Ethernet connection works (see earlier post).?DHCP does not. ?This is new mount/controller so my?expectation is that it should be fully functional.?




On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 2:39 PM, Michael A. Covington <astro@...> wrote:

You can connect the Gemini directly to any computer that has an Ethernet
port.? The instructions are on gemini-2.com.? That is how I do it, with
no router.









Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

You can connect the Gemini directly to any computer that has an Ethernet port.? The instructions are on gemini-2.com.? That is how I do it, with no router.


Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

Brett

That was just a suggestion, not?

Please understand, we can't diagnose and fix something we aren't in front of. We can only suggest things to try without being right there. We have literally thousands of these units working with ethernet. It's extremely unlikely there's something wrong with the unit, but we are of course happy to take a look at it.?

If you want to submit a support ticket please by all means do that and we can take it from there


On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 2:26 PM Bret Stott via <bstott_98=[email protected]> wrote:
Er, this is a brand new mount.??I believe there¡¯s sufficient evidence that I am using the Gemini correctly and?something is wrong with Gemini unit.?Ive already tried multiple cables, multiple LAN devices, powering up/down, etc. and all of the external equipment works fine?when connected to?other devices.

It does not?seem reasonable that Losmandy asks customers to?purchase?additional routers/equipment?to further debug a brand new?unit that is defective from best as?I can tell.? If there some debug dump that I can send or some other settings I can try, please let me know.? Otherwise, I¡¯d like a pretested, new Gemini?replacement ¡­ these?are very expensive units?and should work as described and?this one has at least two known issues ¡ª?1) Unable to access all functions via USB and 2) DHCP is not working.?




On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 2:00 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:

Brett

I'd try a?couple different combinations on power cycle, enabling/disabling DHCP
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Another option could be getting a microRouter

Running out of ideas here. It works on plenty of Geminis.?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:57 PM Bret Stott via <bstott_98=[email protected]> wrote:
Pic below with Gemini connected directly to home router ... HC still shows the direct Ethernet configuration settings I used and Gemini is not showing up on the list devices connected to my home network.



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Re: Losmandy GM8/GM11 Encoder Kit

 

INA is a Chinese firm. Seems to be in the digital measurement?space.?

How do you read,?2 x encoders (311,296 steps)? I'd sure like to read the "installation instruction booklet" before I laid out the cash.

Virus-free.


Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

Er, this is a brand new mount.??I believe there¡¯s sufficient evidence that I am using the Gemini correctly and?something is wrong with Gemini unit.?Ive already tried multiple cables, multiple LAN devices, powering up/down, etc. and all of the external equipment works fine?when connected to?other devices.

It does not?seem reasonable that Losmandy asks customers to?purchase?additional routers/equipment?to further debug a brand new?unit that is defective from best as?I can tell. ?If there some debug dump that I can send or some other settings I can try, please let me know. ?Otherwise, I¡¯d like a pretested, new Gemini?replacement ¡­ these?are very expensive units?and should work as described and?this one has at least two known issues ¡ª?1) Unable to access all functions via USB and 2) DHCP is not working.?




On Tuesday, August 30, 2022, 2:00 PM, Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:

Brett

I'd try a?couple different combinations on power cycle, enabling/disabling DHCP
?
Another option could be getting a microRouter

Running out of ideas here. It works on plenty of Geminis.?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:57 PM Bret Stott via <bstott_98=[email protected]> wrote:
Pic below with Gemini connected directly to home router ... HC still shows the direct Ethernet configuration settings I used and Gemini is not showing up on the list devices connected to my home network.



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Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

Brett

I'd try a?couple different combinations on power cycle, enabling/disabling DHCP
?
Another option could be getting a microRouter

Running out of ideas here. It works on plenty of Geminis.?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:57 PM Bret Stott via <bstott_98=[email protected]> wrote:
Pic below with Gemini connected directly to home router ... HC still shows the direct Ethernet configuration settings I used and Gemini is not showing up on the list devices connected to my home network.



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Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

Pic below with Gemini connected directly to home router ... HC still shows the direct Ethernet configuration settings I used and Gemini is not showing up on the list devices connected to my home network.


Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

>>> Losmandy may want to take a closer look -- you now have at least two users that inexplicably cannot access all functionality via USB but can when using (direct) Ethernet.

I was referring to your comment on the 'erratic behavior', not the availability of features. Understood on the PEC part

>>>? Any issues with Gemini not being plugged in to the mount motors to try out the experiment and see if DHCP works? ? I don't have a 100' ethernet cable sitting around.

No, just bring your hand controller along and when you cold start, put it in terrestrial tracking so you don't have to listen to it beeping. Just remember to re-set back to sidereal when you put it back on your mount


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On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 1:05 PM Bret Stott via <bstott_98=[email protected]> wrote:
Let's come back to the calibration so as to not mix too many issues. ? But, just a note that the erratic movement is without / before I started working on PEC.? PEC is off. ? I'm trying to get to a reliable point to begin working on PEC.? As for the comment 'performance won't be any different in USB vs Ethernet', Losmandy may want to take a closer look -- you now have at least two users that inexplicably cannot access all functionality via USB but can when using (direct) Ethernet.

As for the suggestion of connecting the Gemini directly to my home router, I will need to disconnect the Gemini 2 unit from the mount to do this. ? Any issues with Gemini not being plugged in to the mount motors to try out the experiment and see if DHCP works? ? I don't have a 100' ethernet cable sitting around.



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Re: Issues With Losmandy Polar Scope and QHY PoleMaster

 

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 10:29 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
interesting, thanks Jim
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what's considered a 'current generation' intel cpu?
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i have a few beelink running intel N5905 and polemaster and it's worked okay for me
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Brian,

This issue is going to affect Intel gen 11 and newer iCore processors with Windows 11.?

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Re: Help with PemPro on G11/Gemini

 

Let's come back to the calibration so as to not mix too many issues. ? But, just a note that the erratic movement is without / before I started working on PEC. ?PEC is off. ? I'm trying to get to a reliable point to begin working on PEC. ?As for the comment 'performance won't be any different in USB vs Ethernet', Losmandy may want to take a closer look -- you now have at least two users that inexplicably cannot access all functionality via USB but can when using (direct) Ethernet.

As for the suggestion of connecting the Gemini directly to my home router, I will need to disconnect the Gemini 2 unit from the mount to do this. ? Any issues with Gemini not being plugged in to the mount motors to try out the experiment and see if DHCP works? ? I don't have a 100' ethernet cable sitting around.


Re: Issues With Losmandy Polar Scope and QHY PoleMaster

 

Jim,

I have an i5 NUC 8 system and it shows the same Device Security error but it is related to Core Isolation (ala Virtualization security protection) and not due to the QHY system. I have the 168C QHY and Polemaster units and they seem to be working fine for me on my older generation NUC.?

The drivers are just under a year old so new ones are needed given their camera releases. Have you tried the beta drivers which require some cameras to be firmware upgraded?

Agree it is a pain if they have platform support issues with the drivers - good luck.

Ken


Re: Issues With Losmandy Polar Scope and QHY PoleMaster

Jim Waters
 

My laptop has an Intel 11th Generation Core i7-11800H CPU.? I am not sure where Core Memory Isolation begins.? My laptop now tell me I have a security issue.



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Losmandy G11G, NINA 2.0 Beta / ASTAP, ASI2600MC Pro, Sky-Watcher Scopes


Re: Issues With Losmandy Polar Scope and QHY PoleMaster

 

interesting, thanks Jim

what's considered a 'current generation' intel cpu?

i have a few beelink running intel N5905 and polemaster and it's worked okay for me



On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 10:20 AM Jim Waters <jimwaters@...> wrote:
I imaged for the first time in 3 months because of monsoons and other things last night.? When I tried to PA using my PoleMaster the device driver wouldn¡¯t load and I couldn¡¯t do PA.? I gave up trying to debug the problem and decided to use the Losmandy polar scope only to find that the reticle wasn¡¯t aligned.? I roughly aligned the mount and was able to do 3-minute subs.? When I purchased the polar scope I was told that the reticle was aligned and never bothered to check.? I talked to a friend today and his Losmandy polar scope wasn¡¯t aligned also.?

If anybody is considering getting a Losmandy polar scope spend the time to align the reticle.? Don¡¯t trust that its aligned...


Getting back to the PoleMaster problem.? It turns out that the QHY device driver will not load if you have a current generation Intel CPU and are running Win 11.? Win 11 wants to run apps / device drivers in protected memory.? You must turn OFF Win 11 Core Memory Isolation to get the device driver to load.? This isn¡¯t the first time I have had issues with 'poorly written' QHY device drivers and apps.


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Issues With Losmandy Polar Scope and QHY PoleMaster

Jim Waters
 

I imaged for the first time in 3 months because of monsoons and other things last night.? When I tried to PA using my PoleMaster the device driver wouldn¡¯t load and I couldn¡¯t do PA.? I gave up trying to debug the problem and decided to use the Losmandy polar scope only to find that the reticle wasn¡¯t aligned.? I roughly aligned the mount and was able to do 3-minute subs.? When I purchased the polar scope I was told that the reticle was aligned and never bothered to check.? I talked to a friend today and his Losmandy polar scope wasn¡¯t aligned also.?

If anybody is considering getting a Losmandy polar scope spend the time to align the reticle.? Don¡¯t trust that its aligned...


Getting back to the PoleMaster problem.? It turns out that the QHY device driver will not load if you have a current generation Intel CPU and are running Win 11.? Win 11 wants to run apps / device drivers in protected memory.? You must turn OFF Win 11 Core Memory Isolation to get the device driver to load.? This isn¡¯t the first time I have had issues with 'poorly written' QHY device drivers and apps.


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Losmandy G11G, NINA 2.0 HF1 / ASTAP, ASI2600MC Pro, Sky-Watcher Scopes


Re: Losmandy GM8/GM11 Encoder Kit

 

This type of encoders are great for turning manual Alt-Az mounts or even dobsonians into semi-goto systems.? For a GEM, once you have goto capability its cost and hassle is hard to justify. OTOH, a retrofitting kit for turning the G11G2 into a G11G-EC would be great!!

Best regards,
Daniel


Re: Metaguide?

 

Hi Michael

>>>Are there any Metaguide enthusiasts among us??

I had a recent few months where I used metaguide intensively, both to see if it was better than PHD, and also to learn its approach to guiding (it's also a great way to fine-tune collimation)

overall I found the quality of guiding might be about the same/slightly better than PHD2, but it was not as easy to set up for automation. I couldn't get it to guide correctly after meridian flips (at least, automatically), it had a hard time finding guidestars when not being attended, and overall the software experience just felt more rough than PHD.?

I asked about in the forums CN etc. several times and found very few users and little to no response on my questions
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I eventually reverted to PHD2, just fouhd?it was more reliable for automation

It's kind of a shame because metaguide's core idea and basic results seem promising.?

Did I mention it's quite good for collimation?
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 10:01 PM Michael A. Covington <astro@...> wrote:

Are there any Metaguide enthusiasts among us?? I briefly confirmed that it works with my GM811G, but I have no feel for how it compares to PHD2 (I did only a brief test).? I have already confirmed that PHD2 works well.

I also did a brief PEMPRO session and confirmed that I can program PEC on my new GM811G, although I need to do a longer session to get better data.? Initial results are not bad at all, even from only half an hour of training.



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