LOL vulnerable to what? Core isolation is to protect your hardware in high security applications. This is not that.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

? ?Astrospheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?

Sounds like some backlash, Kenn. The lag is probably until the worm rotation takes up the slack. How much wiggle do you have at the end of the counterweight bar? It should not be more than 3-4 mm at most. You may need to set your worm into the ring gear a bit more.

John
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Losmandy G11G2 on pier; refurbed Losmandy G11 with OnStep controller; SkyShed design roll-off observatory; ZWO ASI2600MM-P; ZWO ASI071MC; Sky-Watcher Esprit 100 ED with field flattener; Celestron C925 Edge HD with 0.7XFR, William Optics Zenithstar 61 APO; PHD2, Sequence Generator Pro and PixInsight user

With a WO FLT`132 FL 925 F7 and the ASI 2600 using APT in full screen mode it will take about 5-8 seconds to stop movement. It does not matter where the star is located in the sky.
After the alignment (of 5 stars) is finished and I slew to the desired object the same kind of drift occurs.

And thank you for responding.
Kenn?

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Not silly at all, letting $4000 worth of computers become vulnerable is what is silly. All my other drivers and software work just fine with it on.

On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 01:21 PM, @VictoryPete wrote:

I had to return my Pole Master because the only way I could get it to work on my 2 Eagle 5 Pros was to disable the Core Security, that was something I did not want to do. There was no workaround according to the manufacturer. I now still have the Ipolar I got with the G11.

That was a pretty silly thing to do on a dedicated imaging computer. Core isolation is irrelevant in this and almost every personal application, it's not like you are a bank or the US government keeping secret data secure. To protect your Eagle computers all you needed to do was make an image and put it on a flash drive and drop it in a desk drawer. You should have just turned off core isolation and kept using the Polemaster.?
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

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On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 05:53 PM, Kenn wrote:

Interesting............no response

How fast is the drift?

Interesting............no response

I had to return my Pole Master because the only way I could get it to work on my 2 Eagle 5 Pros was to disable the Core Security, that was something I did not want to do. There was no workaround according to the manufacturer. I now still have the Ipolar I got with the G11.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 03:56 AM, <kevinwalsh324@...> wrote:

“??You would never be able to use a pole master to polar align with that motor in the way.”

Thanks for the comment.

If I ever need to use a Polemaster, maybe I would. But as I mentioned, after doing a rough polar alignment by ‘eyeballing’ through the RA axis, I built a pointing model and then used the PAC app in the Gemini system to tweak my PA. So for now, I’m satisfied with the mount as is. It’s on a permanent pier, so I may ocassionally check and tweak my PA, but I don’t expect I’d need to use a Polemaster on a regular basis.

?Not true. Do what I do, put the PoleMaster camera on a dovetail saddle clamp and clamp it on the telescope dovetail and then use the PoleMaster or other app to do your PA. I helped prototype this mount from ADM and it has served me and many others well for many years now.?




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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?

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Folks,

Gemini L6.02 firmware and Hand Controller v1.61 firmware are now out of beta test, and available to everyone. This version enables full use of PEC with L6 and with PEMPro. In addition, it addresses some issues reported by the Southern hemisphere users, and adds a few new serial commands that make Gemini controller even more powerful.

Steps to update

1. Update Gemini firmware using the latest GFU utility, v1.0.31?. Update HC version also if yours is older than v1.61, by checking the HC checkbox near the top of GFU window.

2. If you use PEMPro, install v3.10.07 or later that's compatible with Gemini L6.02 from here:??
? ? Follow instructions by Brian Valente for using PEMPro with L6:?/g/Gemini-II/files/Gemini%20L6.02%20beta%20files/Losmandy_PEC_Primer_for_L6.pdf

3. If you use ASCOM, you may want to update your version to the latest driver (v1.1.25):??

4. Latest serial command documentation is available:?

NOTE 1: If you can't use GFU, you can still update the firmware to L6.02 by using the combined firmware file from here:???and update Gemini using Gemini web pages or by copying the appropriate files directly to the microSD card through FTP or by removing the SD card.

NOTE 2: Remember to also update PIC controllers to v3 firmware to get the 4x encoder resolution if you are upgrading from L5.

You should see this in the Gemini web pages after the update:


Regards,?

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AT130 at about 27.5 lbs. One 21 lb counterweight.

130mm refractor with focuser, EFW, flattener and cooled camera = 32.4lbs. I use a 20 and an 11 - 20 is up high on the shaft (less than 2" from top) and 11 is around mid way on the CW shaft.

Calcultae the distances also from below links but final manual adjustments were needed for me.



Good luck,
Ken

I have a G11G, and just got a 130mm Stellarvue refractor to image with.? ?I've got an 11lb and 20lb counterweight currently, trying to figure out if I should use more.? The scope weighs I think 21lbs with rings, and adding the camera, flattner etc I expect to be about 25-28lbs.? ?Seems to weigh less than my fully loaded C11, but the 30ish lbs of counterweight didn't seem quite enough for that scope.? The weight is much closer in with this refractor.? I can get it to balance, but won't be able to test under the stars for tracking for quite a while based on forecast and travel plans.??

I had posted here before an a number of folks were using refractors in this class/weight range.? What did you find was the 'right' amount of counterweight??

Brian

Hi Joe,
I'm not much of a tinkerer, but if it only needs service on rare occasions and there is a University Of YouTube tutorial I should be good to go.

This mount will be covered on my backyard pier 24/7/365. I hope to never move it off the pier.

More weight capacity the better. I do not like operating on the margins.

My PPL Eagle5 mounted on the scope is shore powered and has direct ethernet wifi connection from the house. The house has solar and battery back up so any power outage would be a loose cable at the mount. The Eagle5 has (2) 8 amp and (2) 3 amp power outs which I'm told by PPL will power any commercial mount available. But I will keep an eye on that and confirm with Losmandy that is enough. If not, an additional power brick is easy to plug in directly into the pier power outlet.

I'll call Losmandy tomorrow and place the order and ask about any additional questions.

Thank you for your help Joe.
Frank

Hey Frank,

The ONLY reason I mentioned the G11G was because of the spring loaded worm blocks on BOTH the RA and Dec vs the G11T only has the Dec spring loaded.? Theoretically less maintenance, basically you do not have to adjust spring loaded worm blocks. Very rare that you do.? The G11T will need adjustment at sometime, will not need it often but will need it.? Ask around, owners of G11T's, like I said it is not done often but it is done.

When I bought my G11T four years ago, it came standard with the Dec separating from the RA, may be option for G11G, the G11T came standard with the better clutch knobs.

The G11T does give you more weight capacity, 10 or 15 pounds more.

As a customer, I prefer to call and talk to the manufacturer if I can, with Losmandy you can,? I would call, tell them your needs, scopes you plan to use, counter weights,? remote observatory, spring loaded worms vs not spring loaded,? remote operation / power interuption, etc.? That way you fit the mount to your needs.

Just me, which ever mount you chose, get the 120 volt power supply, Gemini 2 likes the 15 volts DC.

Is your observatory in your backyard or do you have to drive to it???? Talk to Losmandy and try to find owners that have observatories like yourself,? how is it in operation??? What about power outage, power goes off for whatever reason, how to reset / resume??

The thing you are looking for is trouble free from all angles.

Joe

Titan Mount: When slewing to the first star, for alignment, when the mount stops moving the star also stops moving...as expected.?

The next few stars always move after the mount stops moving; they tend to drift East. Would that mean I'm too bias on the East for balancing the mount?

Then after alignment, usually align on five stars, all other stars/objects drift in the same direction.

Curious,
Kenn

Hi Joe,
Thank you for your information!
The G11T will be permanantly mounted on the pier. I live in B-4 so no reason to take it anywhere else. Are you saying that the G11G is better only because it is easier to break down after a session, or are is it a better mount overall??
While I do not have any plans right now for a heavier scope, that might change in the future. Again, I do not need a portable mount. I will use the ZWO AM5 I already have for our SVX90T for travel if needed.
Thanks for the CW recommendations. This way I can order them at the same time as the mount.?
Do you know if Losmandy prefers the online ordering or by direct phone call?
Frank

Frank,

Question #2,? The MAL has a 1/2" hole in the center, then about six or eight 5/16 or 3/8" holes around the edge.? You will need it as the mount sits inside and is fastened by screws from the side.

Question #3,? I would get 35 - 40 pounds of weight, 20lb, 10lb and a 5lb - 7lb. ? Put the 20 and 10 close to the top, use the smallest weight as the lowest on the bar to dial in the balance.? Best for tracking.? If imaging, and using a guide scope do not forget to add that weight too. Guide scope, rings mounting bracket..it all adds up.? OAG is best and no real weight.

My question to you is,? is the Stellarvue SVX130T going to be your largest, heaviest, longest focal length scope you will use??? Reason I ask,? did you consider a G11G??? About 10 pounds less capacity, 60 or 65 pound capacity, photographic.? G11G has spring loaded gears in both axis, the G11T only Dec. ?? The G11T does have a bigger RA gear and comes standard with what would be extra on the G11G.? I'm thinking, availability to split in half, Dec / RA, clutch knobs, knobs to adjust azimuth when polar aligning.

I bought a G11T 4 years ago, thinking I needed it for a big scope, well I got rid of that big scope and did not need the extra weight capacity. ? G11T is a great mount, still in service today in a portable setting. set up tear down every night. Kind of anyway, it is on wheels, so it is just roll out / roll in.

Another thing I'd like to add is the Losmandy power supply, 15vdc., ? Gemini 2 likes the extra 3 volts. Get the dedicated power supply.

I cannot answer question #1 or #4.

In the under $5000 budget,? Losmandy makes the best mount out there, total package.? Dependable, durable, repeatable, customer service and customer support.

Just my thoughts, views and experiences, ? Joe?

Hi,
I'm new to the group and getting ready to buy a new G11T and have a few questions;
1) Wanted to confirm that the included Gemini 2 is shipping with the L6 or is it still an add on?
2) It will be pier mounted. Is the MAL adaptor required or is there a single ~1/2" hole at the bottom of the mount to screw directly into my existing top pier plate?
3) My OTA is a SVX130T refractor that weighs approx 39 lbs (17.5kg). Do I need additional counter weights and if so which ones would you recommend?
4) I have a PPL Eagle5 mounted on top of the scope. It handles all of my power and computing needs for my current set up of a ZWO AM5 mount and NINA. I'm not relishing the idea of learning a new computer system. Can I quickly set up to use the Eagle5 with NINA and then incorporate Gemini as needed later on? And if so which settings would you recommend in the Gemini driver to start off with?
Thanks for any help,
Frank