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Re: Gemini 2 and original Asiair

 

Guess I wasn't clear, the asiair interface (software) on my android device will not connect to the Losmandy. I understand the physical cabeling.

Thanks
Randy


Re: Gemini 2 and original Asiair

 

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Randy,

The camera although you can physically connect a camera with the mount directly using USB, it does not work.

You need to connect the USB cables from each to a computer, such as a Raspberry Pi and use the software on the computer to control each.

The only time a direct connection from a camera to the mount is required is if you are using an ST4 cable, which works differently and does not involve USB.

Paul




On 18 Oct 2020, at 7:30:22 am, Randy Flynn <ncwolfie@...> wrote:

For the life of me I can't get the asiair to connect to the Gemini 2 under any usb baud rate. I have tried as outlined here to connect via usb. Funny that skysafari sees the mount and controlls it fine while asiair is on. But asiair will not connect to the mount itself.
Odd. Any tips?


Thanks
Randy


Re: Parking and Flipping and Piers

Sonny Edmonds
 

How far is really entirely depending on what is on the clamp.
I'm using an Orion ED80T CF, but I have a large manual filter wheel mounted in my imaging stream (8 filter positions, 1.25"). So the filter wheel is the biggest jeopardy. And it seems in most cases, the thing that gets in the way.
Originally, I was running the default limits. But I discovered I could "Set limits here" and move the settings on the fly, without stopping the imaging the mount was doing. Now that is a really cool feature!

For my first attempt (which was a raving success!) I began Eastward of the South Meridian. I don't keep track of that, I just have my simple filing system I developed and use. My guess would be about half way, if that makes any sense.
I got so enthralled with what I was seeing as the mount tracked across the Southern sky at my location, I was wondering how far I could get. I finally quit because I was about to lose my object in my neighbors tree at 03:30 hours.
But man! I was wide awake and excited with my first experiment.

As the warning chime would begin for the limit, I would move it more with the hand controller. (See: ) Losmandy on YouTube,?

But like so many variables in this sport, what is on the mount, and what is being tracked will have great effect on what can be achieved.
I found myself wondering how far I could go. I was recording stacks at 250 images, then wondered as I past the 5,000 seconds, could I get further? When I was approaching the 10,000 second image point I kept checking the limit clearance of the telescope.
Finally, I squeaked out 13,000 seconds and crashing was eminent, and I was running out of Southwestern sky anyway. So I stopped. That is .

But watch out. You might get addicted to doing these long runs. I keep wanting to push the envelope. I was out at 18,000 seconds on the Andromeda Galaxy the other night.
I think it's fantastic to thumb our noses at the meridian flips.
And I know of no others that can do this. Only from the genius of Scott Losmandy.
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software

 

I use Astro Photo Tool. I like it. Works well. Cheap.?


I tried SGP and hated it.?


Also been playing with NINA. It¡¯s free, great interface and works well.?
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Rick Paul
Tucson, AZ


Gemini 2 and original Asiair

 

For the life of me I can't get the asiair to connect to the Gemini 2 under any usb baud rate. I have tried as outlined here to connect via usb. Funny that skysafari sees the mount and controlls it fine while asiair is on. But asiair will not connect to the mount itself.
Odd. Any tips?


Thanks
Randy


Re: Parking and Flipping and Piers

 

Hi Sonny,
I am also curious what you have your limits set to ?

I have the RAEXT and 12" Ext, ( but I removed my original 4" riser ? from the FHD tripod...)
(With my imaging train on a ED102 with a Celestron OAG and ZWO cameras I can only get my limits to 96 degrees before I get worried)

Thanks,
Astronut Tim


Re: Parking and Flipping and Piers

 

Sonny, how long past meridian can you go with the 12 inch? All night?
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Rick Paul
Tucson, AZ


Re: Parking and Flipping and Piers

Sonny Edmonds
 

Hi Rick!
The other guys will help you with 1 and 2.

Question 3:
I can attest to using an EX12 extension, and the RAEXT on my GM811GHD.
When dreaming about my 811 (born February 2020) I decided I wanted heavy duty, and I wanted a portable pier configuration. So an EX12 came home with my GM811GHD.

Later, I realized the added value (to me) of adding the RAEXT to make my assemblies easier to move in and out all the time. The Image through the meridian without a meridian flip was also very intriguing to me.
That has become my new most favorite way to do my imaging. No Meridian flip!

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Re: Losmandy group on Astrobin

Sonny Edmonds
 

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 03:32 AM, Carl Bj?rk wrote:
Aw man, sorry about that, I didn't realize.
It's OK Carl. No harm, no foul.
I just have a particular ilk towards these subscription things.
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Re: Losmandy group on Astrobin

Sonny Edmonds
 

OK, I jumped in Andy.
Thanks!

Just the freebie version for me. Those subscription programs are, to me, just a nickel and dime you to death scheme.
Give me ownership, or gimme free.

My one subscription is to Robin Glovers Sharpcap, presently. ~ $1 a month (in a one shot annual) works for me.

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SonnyE


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SGP and Gemini I

 

Hi everybody,
We have a G11 in a remote observatory and we are working with SGP, we are having some issies that I would like to share with the forum if anyone can help us.
First, we don¡¯t know how to match Gemini I with SGP, in the hand control of Gemini ssts one position and in SGP have another
Second we send to a target and if the tick of J2000 is ticked in Gemini I the mount and SGP is syncronized but if I go to a target it resolve but failed to centered, if I remove the tick it centered but the error of position is still very high.
And third one, in targets of 10 minutes we see the stars like ¡°eggs¡± , you can think, is the guide, tilt, something loose, but not, we try with NINA program and the result are stars perfectly round.?

Anybody can help to understand whats going on, we suspect from the matching of SGP and GEMINI I but we don¡¯t know how to do it properly or if there is something else that we have to.
Thanks
Bittor


Re: Losmandy group on Astrobin

 

An alternative is Flickr where you can either pay or use for free with limited images. There are a LOT of people using the free version.

I created a Losmandy group for anyone who is interested:



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Andy


Parking and Flipping and Piers

 

Two issues I've run into:

1.? In Astro Photo Tool, I have the session craft tool do the Automatic Meridian Flip. APT starts the process, but when it comes to the step of moving the scope it gets an error and stops. Mount never moves. I've try using APT to force a manual flip and I get the same error. One note: My limits are currently set about 20 minutes past the meridian. I've used APT to do flips before with my other mount, and it has worked in the past. Here's part of the APT Log File:

2020/10/16 19:25:29 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:29)? DBG?? Make a pause

2020/10/16 19:25:33 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:33)? Op??? PointCraft: Image solved in 1s.

2020/10/16 19:25:33 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:33)? Op??? PointCraft: Detected FOV size (arc-minutes) - 85.12 x 64.35; focal length - 714.52mm

2020/10/16 19:25:33 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:33)? DBG?? PointCraft: Found Ra 20.7622509003, Dec 30.7234134674

2020/10/16 19:25:33 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:33)? Op??? Target locked before flip. RA=20:45:44.10, Dec=30:43:24.29.

2020/10/16 19:25:33 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:33)? Op??? Stopping PHD2 Guiding.

2020/10/16 19:25:35 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:35)? Op??? Tracking disabled.

2020/10/16 19:25:35 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:35)? DBG?? PHD2 Guiding Stopped.

2020/10/16 19:25:46 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:46)? Op??? Changing the telescope side of pier from West to East

2020/10/16 19:25:46 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:46)? Op??? Flip move finished.

2020/10/16 19:25:46 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:46)? OpErr Flip move finished for 11s, it is faster than the defined safety limit of 30s.

2020/10/16 19:25:46 (UT 2020/10/17 02:25:46)? OpErr Can't complete an Automated Meridian Flip! Stopping all actions...




2. I set up in the Gemini computer interface to "Slew to CWD before Parking". At the end of the imaging session, I set up a script in APT to park the scope. Everytime I have tried this the park gets scoped at 90 degrees off from CWD. When I find the scope like this in the morning, I do a manual command to park at CWD, and it goes straight to it. So it's not like it doesn't know where CWD is.

3. This is a gear question. If i got one of? the Losmandy Pier extensions (4 inch...12 inch), would it allow me to image even further past the Meridian? Would I need to ever flip?? (hint to Brian: this, along with setting limits, might make a good youtube video!)

Any help, most appreciated.
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Rick Paul
Tucson, AZ


Re: Losmandy group on Astrobin

 

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 04:48 PM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:
Sorry Carl, I'm not one to be roped into paying like that
Aw man, sorry about that, I didn't realize.?I got a free membership because data loss occurred.
I too hate paying memberships.

I am still in the process of deciding if I am going to pay when my free astrobin membership ends in February... The thing I like is the possibility to add astronomy metadata like subs integration time, equipment, coordinates or pixel scale.
I haven't found an equivalent, ... yet :-)


Re: G11G Weight Bar

 

1.25 inch is the standard Losmandy counterweight bar diameter for G11 and GM8.

Best,
Michael

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 4:48 PM Russ via <njrusty=[email protected]> wrote:
Can someone please tell me the thickness of the G11G bar that holds the weights?? My buddy has some weights that 'look' like could be used as additional weights but I need to verify the bar actually fits through those holes.? Unfortunately, I will not be receiving my mount until Monday.? Appears it shipped from CA to PA via pony express (6 days).


G11G Weight Bar

 

Can someone please tell me the thickness of the G11G bar that holds the weights?? My buddy has some weights that 'look' like could be used as additional weights but I need to verify the bar actually fits through those holes.? Unfortunately, I will not be receiving my mount until Monday.? Appears it shipped from CA to PA via pony express (6 days).


Re: G11GT GoTo Dim Star

 
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On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 04:32 AM, wes Bolin wrote:
I wasn't clear in my original post.? I do have the SAO catalog on my GoTo lists in the hand controller.? I am asking about a way to go to Epsilon Lyrae or Nu Scorpii without having to look up
their SAO numbers and then enter them in the SAO section to target the Go To
You can use Gemini ASCOM (read their instructions) to amend or create Gemini catalogues and upload/download them to your Gemini.? Make your own call it double stars"" or whatever! ?? Once uploaded to the gemini its easy to use.?? Or create your own catalogue (what ever name) and enter the name? Epsilon Lyrae like this.? I think your limited to 50 char limit for each entry and 20 char for the name..

You don't even need Gemini ASCOM you can make the file yourself in a text editor as shown and save it as a ".guc"file.

Epsilon Lyrae,18:44:20,+39:40:12, Double Double#? or

? Lyrae,18:44:20,+39:40:12, Double-Double#


name , Right Ascension , DEclination , information ????(separator comma is important)


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Brendan


Re: Losmandy group on Astrobin

Sonny Edmonds
 

O...K...
So I tried to join the group.... I got this:

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Sorry Carl, I'm not one to be roped into paying like that.?

I'll stick with my Membership in the UHH (Ugly Hedge Hog) Forums, Astrophotography Forum.
I can hang up any pictures I want. No club fee's.

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SonnyE


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Re: G11GT GoTo Dim Star

 

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The optional "Stars listed by constellation" does what you want ... though I'm not sure how many stars per constellation are included.

Another alternative... if you have a phone with Sky Safari 6 (any version but the higher Plus version has many more stars than the basic version and the Pro version has MANY MANY more stars), it includes "voice control". ?Tap the microphone icon (lower left corner) and say "search for __________" and it'll pull up the entry. ?You'll have the SAO number (and several other catalog numbers) listed near the top. ?It's faster than a paper almanac, considerably more entries, smaller, lighter, fits in your pocket and ... doesn't get mushy in the dew. ?

Clear Skies,
Tim


On Oct 16, 2020, at 1:32 PM, wes Bolin <k5apl41@...> wrote:

?
Tim
Thanks for the response.? I wasn't clear in my original post.? I do have the SAO catalog on my GoTo lists in the hand controller.? I am asking about a way to go to Epsilon Lyrae or Nu Scorpii without having to look up
their SAO numbers and then enter them in the SAO section to target the Go To.? I could do the same by entering RA and DEC.? In both cases, I think I would have to get the information from another source, like a computer or book.? Previous experience with Sky Commander and Celestron Nexstar I could just look up the star by its designation and punch Go To.? I was asking about a way to do that with the new HC.? I guess
I can always look up what I need (my alas has RA/DEC) and then enter it in the HC.? Just more cumbersome than the other two products.? Am I missing something?
Thanks
Wes










On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:08 AM Timothy Campbell via <tim.campbell=[email protected]> wrote:
The SAO catalog contains general stars.? There¡¯s a WDS catalog of double stars.

But you can add catalogs.

See: ?
And: ?

You can even build your own catalogs.? They must be in ¡°.guc¡± format, but the format is fairly simple.? It¡¯s just a comma-separated-value file where each entry has four values¡­ name, RA, Dec, and Info.? There is a specific format for the RA & Dec fields.? RA is 6 digits for HH:MM:SS.? Dec is also 6 digits but has a sign (+/-) in front, so ¡ÀDD:MM:SS.

Clear Skies,
Tim

On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:09 AM, wes Bolin <k5apl41@...> wrote:

Using the Hand Controller, is the only way to Go To a dim star (Not Bright Star) to
enter its SAO number?
If so, I guess I need a SAO list .? Maybe a cross reference of SAO and common?name
(Bayer Catalog).
I am visual only and don't take a computer to the viewing site.? Thanks for information.
Wes


Re: G11GT GoTo Dim Star

 

Hi Wes - i think probably the easiest is to use a planetarium program like sky safari or stellarium. you can connect those to gemini and just GOTO directly from the planetarium software



On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 10:32 AM wes Bolin <k5apl41@...> wrote:
Tim
Thanks for the response.? I wasn't clear in my original post.? I do have the SAO catalog on my GoTo lists in the hand controller.? I am asking about a way to go to Epsilon Lyrae or Nu Scorpii without having to look up
their SAO numbers and then enter them in the SAO section to target the Go To.? I could do the same by entering RA and DEC.? In both cases, I think I would have to get the information from another source, like a computer or book.? Previous experience with Sky Commander and Celestron Nexstar I could just look up the star by its designation and punch Go To.? I was asking about a way to do that with the new HC.? I guess
I can always look up what I need (my alas has RA/DEC) and then enter it in the HC.? Just more cumbersome than the other two products.? Am I missing something?
Thanks
Wes










On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:08 AM Timothy Campbell via <tim.campbell=[email protected]> wrote:
The SAO catalog contains general stars.? There¡¯s a WDS catalog of double stars.

But you can add catalogs.

See: ?
And: ?

You can even build your own catalogs.? They must be in ¡°.guc¡± format, but the format is fairly simple.? It¡¯s just a comma-separated-value file where each entry has four values¡­ name, RA, Dec, and Info.? There is a specific format for the RA & Dec fields.? RA is 6 digits for HH:MM:SS.? Dec is also 6 digits but has a sign (+/-) in front, so ¡ÀDD:MM:SS.

Clear Skies,
Tim

On Oct 16, 2020, at 11:09 AM, wes Bolin <k5apl41@...> wrote:

Using the Hand Controller, is the only way to Go To a dim star (Not Bright Star) to
enter its SAO number?
If so, I guess I need a SAO list .? Maybe a cross reference of SAO and common?name
(Bayer Catalog).
I am visual only and don't take a computer to the viewing site.? Thanks for information.
Wes



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