Hi, where can I get a direction video/manual of the mount?
Thanks!
- Dave
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Hi David
Nothing has changed in this regard
all the important stuff (transactions, orders, etc.) are all handled via HTTPS
I cannot can¡¯t connect using https:? The link is regular http ¨C no a good idea these days. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Valente
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Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography. ? Hi Henk you may have seen the large graphic on our homepage that suggests going to our "new" site? we are transitioning away from and towards (eventually they will both be the same), but we will have the two websites for a while ? On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 11:57 AM Henk Aling <haling@...> wrote: >>> the G11S is not sold anymore, Actually the G11S is still available:??
When I go to and click on mounts, the G11S is not shown.? How would anybody find that page that you linked?
It's good news that the system is still available!? I recommend putting it up on the same page as the rest so potential customers can find it.? I think there is a market for the G11S (just read the CN threads, and in this thread the opinion of the OP).
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Valente
Sent: 24 August 2020 20:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography. ? Hi Henk you may have seen the large graphic on our homepage that suggests going to our "new" site? we are transitioning away from and towards (eventually they will both be the same), but we will have the two websites for a while ? On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 11:57 AM Henk Aling <haling@...> wrote: >>> the G11S is not sold anymore, Actually the G11S is still available:??
When I go to and click on mounts, the G11S is not shown.? How would anybody find that page that you linked?
It's good news that the system is still available!? I recommend putting it up on the same page as the rest so potential customers can find it.? I think there is a market for the G11S (just read the CN threads, and in this thread the opinion of the OP).
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
you may have seen the large graphic on our homepage that suggests going to our "new" site?
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we are transitioning away from??and towards??(eventually they will both be the same), but we will have the two websites for a while
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Ah very good!? That's a nice looking page, and the G11S is listed indeed.? Nice. I don't know why I missed it, maybe because I subconsciously started ignoring large advertisement banners.
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Hi Henk
you may have seen the large graphic on our homepage that suggests going to our "new" site? ?
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we are transitioning away from and towards (eventually they will both be the same), but we will have the two websites for a while
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 11:57 AM Henk Aling < haling@...> wrote: >>> the G11S is not sold anymore,
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Actually the G11S is still available:??
When I go to and click on mounts, the G11S is not shown.? How would anybody find that page that you linked?
It's good news that the system is still available!? I recommend putting it up on the same page as the rest so potential customers can find it.? I think there is a market for the G11S (just read the CN threads, and in this thread the opinion of the OP).
-- Brian?
Brian Valente portfolio
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
>>> the G11S is not sold anymore,
?
Actually the G11S is still available:??
When I go to losmandy.com and click on mounts, the G11S is not shown.? How would anybody find that page that you linked? It's good news that the system is still available!? I recommend putting it up on the same page as the rest so potential customers can find it.? I think there is a market for the G11S (just read the CN threads, and in this thread the opinion of the OP).
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
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the G11S is not sold anymore,
Actually the G11S is still available:??
On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 11:27 AM Henk Aling < haling@...> wrote: When I bought my G11S I had to decide between a CEM60 and the G11S (G11S = G11G without the Gemini just a basic tracking controller).? I never considered the Gemini control system because adding that would add a ridiculous amount of money to the price.??If I had to choose today I would go with the CEM60 because the G11S is not sold anymore, and the G11G costs a lot more for just the control system, much more than a control system should cost.? If the G11S were still around I would get the G11S again.
I agree that the G11S needs tinkering.? This is about the worm gear, about which there are tons of messages by many on this board for various issues.? The good thing is, after you let go of the requirement of having a tight mount and instead allow some slack, most problems go away and the system works well.? I still suspect my crown wheel is not perfectly round, something I need to live with.? Nowadays you can get spring loaded worm gears that should take care of most issues.? The G11S is very simple mechanically and is a mechanical beauty with a fantastic tripod as solid as a pier yet fairly light weight.? It has a good AP load capacity.? And it's American made, which is important to me.
Instead I first used the manual setting circles (works OK but takes practice and good alignment) and later got an EQStar goto system that I control from Ekos on my Pi, remote logged in from my Galaxy Tab A.? It works but there's a learning curve.? I am still learning and have had good success recently.? My issues were not just with learning EQStar and Ekos but also a dying jump starter and imbalance that were causing problems that I did not understand at the time.? EQStar may turn out to be all I need.
Meanwhile I started looking at OnStep and am now building an OnStep controller with COTS components.? I enjoy this part of the hobby.? Compared to EQStar, OnStep has more features depending on what board you build.? The acceleration is more gradual than EQStar, which probably fixes a bunch of issues that I had.? With OnStep you can take control of your own system if you know Arduino programming.? It is quite modular and has good support from 2 people on the OnStep groups.IO board but it's not for everyone.
-- Brian?
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
When I bought my G11S I had to decide between a CEM60 and the G11S (G11S = G11G without the Gemini just a basic tracking controller).? I never considered the Gemini control system because adding that would add a ridiculous amount of money to the price.??If I had to choose today I would go with the CEM60 because the G11S is not sold anymore, and the G11G costs a lot more for just the control system, much more than a control system should cost.? If the G11S were still around I would get the G11S again.
I agree that the G11S needs tinkering.? This is about the worm gear, about which there are tons of messages by many on this board for various issues.? The good thing is, after you let go of the requirement of having a tight mount and instead allow some slack, most problems go away and the system works well.? I still suspect my crown wheel is not perfectly round, something I need to live with.? Nowadays you can get spring loaded worm gears that should take care of most issues.? The G11S is very simple mechanically and is a mechanical beauty with a fantastic tripod as solid as a pier yet fairly light weight.? It has a good AP load capacity.? And it's American made, which is important to me.
Instead I first used the manual setting circles (works OK but takes practice and good alignment) and later got an EQStar goto system that I control from Ekos on my Pi, remote logged in from my Galaxy Tab A.? It works but there's a learning curve.? I am still learning and have had good success recently.? My issues were not just with learning EQStar and Ekos but also a dying jump starter and imbalance that were causing problems that I did not understand at the time.? EQStar may turn out to be all I need.
Meanwhile I started looking at OnStep and am now building an OnStep controller with COTS components.? I enjoy this part of the hobby.? Compared to EQStar, OnStep has more features depending on what board you build.? The acceleration is more gradual than EQStar, which probably fixes a bunch of issues that I had.? With OnStep you can take control of your own system if you know Arduino programming.? It is quite modular and has good support from 2 people on the OnStep groups.IO board but it's not for everyone.
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
My Losmandy G-11 returns sub-arcsecond guiding most nights, and with good polar alignment, would give acceptable unguided 5-min subframes with a 80mmm f/6.8 scope.? I couldn't be happier with the system, and would never go back to a lesser mount.? Superb machining, and quality throughout, and very durable. I set up every night in less than 30 mins, and it performs flawlessly. Can I tinker with it? Sure I can, and I have found it very easy to maintain and adjust. I've read the same stories about the G-11, but I am happy to say, that hasn't been my experience.
Brett
Hello, Nicholas,
You about nailed it. I found out early through experience that I did not want anymore Chinese? mounts. I had learning issues only with my G11G Gemini 2, all brought on by me. The Gemini 2 system does have its peculiarities that are it's own.
Every one here on this Group has been a big help to me especially Michael Herman, Chip Louie and a big special high five for Brian Velente, They got me through it all, now I have had zero issues unless I missed a step in the set up like forgetting to plug
the cables in or something like that. LOL... in hindsight? I am glad I did not buy a AP or Paramount the money saved went for more Astro Toys.
HAPPY SKIESCAND KEEP LOOKING UP
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Date: 8/24/20 11:01 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Nicholas,
Before my G11G with the Gemini 2 unit I had an Ioptron CEM60 which I returned due to unresolved vibration issues. In comparison, the Losmandy product is far more sturdy and will probably last for decades. On my first setup I learned the mount basics in less
than 2 hours. The Losmandy videos on YouTube show you how to operate the Gemini controller with ease. Most folks have the Gemini 2, but many older Gemini units are still around and working well.? Plus the support forum has some great folks who will guide you
through any common issues. One of the big pluses to the Losmandy mounts are that they are modular, and you can switch out controllers and motors for repair or trouble shooting without sending the whole rig back to the factory. I've been doing AP with mine
for about 3 years now right out of the box without any mechanical repairs.?
Regards,
John
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Hello, Nicholas,
You about nailed it. I found out early through experience that I did not want anymore Chinese? mounts. I had learning issues only with my G11G Gemini 2, all brought on by me. The Gemini 2 system does have its peculiarities that are it's own.
Every one here on this Group has been a big help to me especially Michael Herman, Chip Louie and a big special high five for Brian Velente, They got me through it all, now I have had zero issues unless I missed a step in the set up like forgetting to plug
the cables in or something like that. LOL... in hindsight? I am glad I did not buy a AP or Paramount the money saved went for more Astro Toys.
HAPPY SKIESCAND KEEP LOOKING UP
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
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From: John Kmetz <jjkmetz54@...>
Date: 8/24/20 11:01 AM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Nicholas,
Before my G11G with the Gemini 2 unit I had an Ioptron CEM60 which I returned due to unresolved vibration issues. In comparison, the Losmandy product is far more sturdy and will probably last for decades. On my first setup I learned the mount basics in less
than 2 hours. The Losmandy videos on YouTube show you how to operate the Gemini controller with ease. Most folks have the Gemini 2, but many older Gemini units are still around and working well.? Plus the support forum has some great folks who will guide you
through any common issues. One of the big pluses to the Losmandy mounts are that they are modular, and you can switch out controllers and motors for repair or trouble shooting without sending the whole rig back to the factory. I've been doing AP with mine
for about 3 years now right out of the box without any mechanical repairs.?
Regards,
John
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Re: Counterweight down setup??
Henry,
I think the GM8 dovetail has a unique bolt spacing...but I'm not at home right now to verify that.? It's unlikely a GM8 sized spacer would fit a larger G11 or Titan properly.??
Losmandy makes an RA extender for G11.? I do not know what the full Titan size requires....Brian will know or can find that out.??
The group could use a table showing for what mount versions, what spacers or extenders are needed to achieve a full RA rotation.??
____speaking of RA rotation ability____
Just a curious observation....on older non tucked motor type G11s....
I did notice that there is a slight difference between the older CG11, and the newer G11, in the angle where the RA motor is mounted.? The CG11 mounts the RA motor about 10 degrees below horizontal, while the newer G11 mounts the RA motor straight out horizontal.? Perhaps the lower angle allows further rotation before the DEC would bump the RA motor.? I'll attach a photo of each showing this difference.? The CG11 front polar scope cover has a flat front surface...the newer G11 has the fancier edge dimpled cut front cover type.?
Stay well, Michael
All good information.? I will have to investigate the next clear night.? I'm not certain a extender for G8 will work on the titan but I've emailed you separately.?
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Nicholas,
Before my G11G with the Gemini 2 unit I had an Ioptron CEM60 which I returned due to unresolved vibration issues. In comparison, the Losmandy product is far more sturdy and will probably last for decades. On my first setup I learned the mount basics in less than 2 hours. The Losmandy videos on YouTube show you how to operate the Gemini controller with ease. Most folks have the Gemini 2, but many older Gemini units are still around and working well.? Plus the support forum has some great folks who will guide you through any common issues. One of the big pluses to the Losmandy mounts are that they are modular, and you can switch out controllers and motors for repair or trouble shooting without sending the whole rig back to the factory. I've been doing AP with mine for about 3 years now right out of the box without any mechanical repairs.?
Regards,
John
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Re: Considering buying a G11 mount for astrophotography.
Hi Nicholas,
Welcome to the group!
You've come to the best place on the web to do your research and inquiries.
I don't know anything about the Onstep. I'm more of an original system is best kind of guy.
I own a GM811G HD, with the Gemini II control. Love it!
When you get something someone else has modified, such as adding an Onstep system, it makes it complicated because you have to seek advice from others with that system, and here, for example, to figure things out.
Scott Losmandy and Brian both advised me when I picked up my mount at the factory, "Just use it as it is, don't mess with it." Sage advice, my mount has been great for me! (Born 04-Feb-2020)
Like anything, there is a learning period. Once you grasp the methods, these are really outstanding mounts.
I've been able to add some things, a 12" extension, hand knobs for quick assembly, the RAEXT kit, And last night adjusting in my Guide Scope piggy backed to my main telescope, and customize my 811 to exactly the very best mount for me that I could hope for. I'm 70, and I have to pack out my mount and set it up, then pack it back in. So having it in sections that are easily moved and handled has given me a great mount.
No other I know of offers these abilities for the owner to make the mount work for you. And not you for the mount.
These guys are your best source for the right answers.
I spent a couple of months reading here and asking questions before I called up Tanya to get my mount.
Since I live ~20 miles away, I was able to go and pick up my GM811G at the factory and meet them in person.
And since my entire interest is DSO, Nebula specific, I got the HD tripod for extra stability.
There is nothing lacking in a Losmandy mount, nor the Gemini II control system.
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SonnyE
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Re: Now, I'm happy with my mount because I know more about it . Here are the results :
Wow that is a tour de force of virtually every type of target. I am amazed by what you got on Mars. well done
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 11:13 PM Sebastian Kotulski < sebkotulski@...> wrote: [Edited Message Follows]
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Re: Now, I'm happy with my mount because I know more about it . Here are the results :
Looks great, Sebastian.
To everything there is a learning curve.
Looks like you've climbed it.
Beautiful images!
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Hi Jeff,
Welcome to Losmandy Users Group.
This is the right place to get the right answers.
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G11 original servo motor encoder disc assy (grub screw)
Please can anyone confirm what size allen key is needed to remove the grub screw holding the encoder disk to the motor spindle?
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Re: Now, I'm happy with my mount because I know more about it . Here are the results :
Hi Sebastian,
These are all extremely nice! Love the detail in both, hi-res and low-res images! Looks like you've dialed-in your mount pretty well now :)
Regards,
? ? ?-Paul
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Re: Counterweight down setup??
All good information.? I will have to investigate the next clear night.? I'm not certain a extender for G8 will work on the titan but I've emailed you separately.?
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Re: Now, I'm happy with my mount because I know more about it . Here are the results :
Sorry, access granted now.
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David C. Partridge
Michael Herman
Paul Kanevsky