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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Welcome new member David Rydzewski
Thank you very much!!
________________________________________ From: Kresy-Siberia@... [Kresy-Siberia@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 8:03 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Welcome new member David Rydzewski Most welcome David to our Group. Such a sad history and I am certain, with the knowledge held by members in this Group, someone will find leads for you to follow. Warmest regards Lenarda, Sydney Australia From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 12:45 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Welcome new member David Rydzewski Please join me in welcoming new Kresy-Siberia group member David Rydzewski, of Rochester Hills, Michigan, USA. I have invited David to come over to our Facebook group at www.facebook.com/groups/KresySiberiaGroup/<> ------------------------- David writes: "Hi, though all of my grandparents were born in either Mazovia or Wielkopolska my wife¡¯s father was born in Nadworna and later resided at one time or another in Stanislawow , Lwow and Kolomyja. He was Chaeskel Mondschein and he was Jewish. On an unknown date he was deported by the Soviets to Siberia. We know that at one point he was in the area of Solikamsk and/or Krasnokamsk near the Ural mountains. We believe he served in the Red Army (after the amnesty?) though he likely did not carry a weapon. In 1945 or 46 he returned to his home to discover that his wife, son and parents had either been shot or died in the Nazi established ghetto. Chaeskel also had a brother named Monio who was arrested in 1940 by the Soviets. We believe he also survived the war in Siberia. Both were later forcibly relocated to a town near Wroclaw. My wife left Poland in 1969. I have been researching my own family history for well over a decade and have as a result met family who continue to reside in Poland. Discovering my wife¡¯s roots has been more difficult given the Nazi destruction of all things Jewish." |
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Welcome new member David Rydzewski
Thank you so much.
________________________________________ From: Kresy-Siberia@... [Kresy-Siberia@...] Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:39 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Welcome new member David Rydzewski Welcome David I hope this group can help you in your quest ! Best wishes, Natalie (Cardiff, Wales) |
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Welcome new member David Rydzewski
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýMost welcome David to our Group.?? Such a sad history and I am certain, with the knowledge held by members in this Group, someone will find leads for you to follow. Warmest regards Lenarda, Sydney Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 12:45 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Welcome new member David Rydzewski ? ? Please join me in welcoming new Kresy-Siberia group member David Rydzewski, of Rochester Hills, Michigan, USA. ?I have invited David to come over to our Facebook group at? ------------------------- ? David writes: "Hi, though all of my grandparents were born in either Mazovia or Wielkopolska my wife¡¯s father was born in Nadworna and later resided at one time or another in Stanislawow , Lwow and Kolomyja. ?He was Chaeskel Mondschein and he was Jewish. ?On an unknown date he was deported by the Soviets to Siberia. ?We know that at one point he was in the area of Solikamsk and/or Krasnokamsk near the Ural mountains. ?We believe he served in the Red Army (after the amnesty?) though he likely did not carry a weapon. ?In 1945 or 46 he returned to his home to discover that his wife, son and parents had either been shot or died in the Nazi established ghetto. ? ? Chaeskel also had a brother named Monio who was arrested in 1940 by the Soviets. ?We believe he also survived the war in Siberia. ?Both were later forcibly relocated to a town near Wroclaw. ?My wife left Poland in 1969. ? I have been researching my own family history for well over a decade and have as a result met family who continue to reside in Poland. ?Discovering my wife¡¯s roots has been more difficult given the Nazi destruction of all things Jewish." ? |
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Welcome new member David Rydzewski
Please join me in welcoming new Kresy-Siberia group member David Rydzewski, of Rochester Hills, Michigan, USA. ?I have invited David to come over to our Facebook group at? ------------------------- David writes: "Hi, though all of my grandparents were born in either Mazovia or Wielkopolska my wife¡¯s father was born in Nadworna and later resided at one time or another in Stanislawow , Lwow and Kolomyja. ?He was Chaeskel Mondschein and he was Jewish. ?On an unknown date he was deported by the Soviets to Siberia. ?We know that at one point he was in the area of Solikamsk and/or Krasnokamsk near the Ural mountains. ?We believe he served in the Red Army (after the amnesty?) though he likely did not carry a weapon. ?In 1945 or 46 he returned to his home to discover that his wife, son and parents had either been shot or died in the Nazi established ghetto. ? Chaeskel also had a brother named Monio who was arrested in 1940 by the Soviets. ?We believe he also survived the war in Siberia. ?Both were later forcibly relocated to a town near Wroclaw. ?My wife left Poland in 1969. I have been researching my own family history for well over a decade and have as a result met family who continue to reside in Poland. ?Discovering my wife¡¯s roots has been more difficult given the Nazi destruction of all things Jewish." |
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Yahoo group hacked
Dear Group Members,
Apparently, the entire Yahoo organization has been hacked and over 500 million accounts have been "compromised" (data stolen). As a precaution,?we have frozen the Kresy-Siberia Yahoo Group, putting all new comments on screening and moderation. We recommend that you make any new posts be made on the FaceBook version of the Kresy-Siberia Group, which is a closed and private group with messages only seen by members, who are all by approval only. ? Regards, Stefan Wisniowski Group Founder |
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Battle of Britain Brunch & Ceremony -Sunday 11 Sep 2016
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDrogi Polacy and friends of Poland, On behalf of the Canadian Air Force Officer's Association and the Polish Consulate, you are cordially invited to the annual commemoration of the Battle of Britain at the RAF Memorial Garden in Stanley Park {Vancouver, BC} this Sunday at 11:30am. ?Medals are appropriate to be worn by all veterans. ?The ceremony will include the unveiling of a plaque honouring the Polish pilots who flew in the battle. ?In all Commonwealth nations, Sept. 15th is recognized as Battle of Britain Day. Pozdrawiam z Seattle, USA-- Antek Haapasaari-OLPINSKI Begin forwarded message:
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GROUP'S 15th ANNIVERSARY ~ 15-a ROCZNICA GRUPY !!!
The Kresy-Siberia Group was founded in Sydney, Australia on 17 September 2001, on the 62nd anniversary of the 1939 invasion of Poland by the Soviet Union, which together with its ally Nazi Germany, perpetrated the 4th Partition of Poland. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grupa Kresy-Syberia zosta?a za?o?ona w dniu 17 wrze?nia 2001r., dniem 62-ej rocznicy napa?ci Zwi?zku Radzieckiego na Polsk?, kt¨®rym wykona?a IV rozbi¨®r Polski, razem z ich sprzymierze¨½cami, Niemcami Hitlerowskimi. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Have you come over to join us on Facebook yet? Over 1000 members now :)
All the best, Stefan Wisniowski Sydney |
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Dekalog
"Dekalog" was a miniseries for Polish television in 1988, set in late-Communist Poland and loosely based on the Ten Commandments. It was made by Krzysztof Kie?lowski, who also adapted some of them for theatrical release. The series has now been re-mastered and will go into limited release in the United States. (Three theaters on September 2, more later, but probably still a small number, since the whole thing must run nearly ten hours.) It will also be released as a DVD collection by Criterion, including additional material such as the two movie versions.l
It gets a rave review in the Wall Street Journal today (September 1). The WSJ has a paywall, but you may be able to read the review by Googling the exact title: ¡®Dekalog¡¯: Where Biblical Law and Polish Cinematography Meet -- Dan Ford USA |
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State burial in Poland for WWII heroes slain by communists
Aug 29/16 Pozdrowienia dla wszystkich!:- Here is an interesting article about us published today in the Times of Israel:- with text copied below. Some points:- (1)? It's quite telling that we get this news from "foreign" (ie non-Polish) newspapers, ????? what would we do without all the "foreigners" (can you say "Norman Davies" et al) ????? who are so interested in helping us to recover our own history. (2) It describes how the Communists systematically erased the soldiers of the Second Republic from Polish history books for decades ???? and here we are already 26 years after the fall of Communism in 1990 and Poland is only very grudgingly and slowly starting to "remember" our parents. (3) I really get irritated a lot by mainland Poles who like to characterize Polish soldiers of the free Polish forces of the West ???? who "chose" to leave Poland during the war and fight in foreign armies and then further "chose" to "resettle" there. ???? Likewise many AK soldiers also fled from Communist Poland after 1945 when they realized which way things were going ???? and the Communists again portrayed this as some sort of "choice". The reality is that Polish exiles of WW2 had only two "choices":- the Soviet Gulag or the Western "gulag" created for them by Poland's erstwhile "allies":- they did the best they could and chose the less bitter option and also often "chose" life in exile over death by execution but it all tasted very bad regardless. Unfortunately there are still a great many mainland Poles who grew up during the Communist era who keep repeating the Communist lie about our parents "choosing" to "resettle" outside of Poland after 1945 and it is so very frustrating to listen to this nonsense. The reality is that we knew far more about Communist Poland than they ever knew about us and we their children have actually fully inherited the traditions of the Second Republic unlike them who have been corrupted by Communism (although they did get most of the real-estate minus the traditions) but they continue to maintain an attitude that they are the "real" Poles and that we are just a bunch of "foreigners" of distant Polish ancestry:- sometimes I feel like shoving "Trail of Hope / Szlak Nadziej" (opened to any page at random) in their faces to help them understand things a bit better and I really wish that someone would make a Polish television "special" to better educate the Polish public about this history but unfortunately that will not happen in "Kaczpolska" with its addiction to Communist-style "politics of memory":- we still do not seem to fit into their preferred historical narrative. (4)? I see that Mr Duda seems to have a fetish for Polish soldiers who die in combat screaming "Long Live Poland!" which seems to be the Polish Communist version of the "Za Stalina!" reputedly screamed by Red Army soldiers dying in battle:- obviously Mr Duda has spent his childhood wallowing in far too much Communist propaganda! In reality Polish soldiers of the Second Republic were not political fanatics of the Third Republic:- they were honest citizen-soldiers of the Second Republic who were doing their duty even though they knew that often that duty was suicidal and most of them did not really scream anything when they went down although apparently there are credible eye-witness accounts at Danuta Siedzikowna did say that to her Polish-Communist executioners. (5)? It is good to see that the Polish government is now trying to recover all this lost Polish history so long suppressed by the Communists ????? but I really wish that they could be less political and more non-partisan about it:- ????? a lot of that history is not really "history" for my generation, ????? it was very much part of childhood for many of us as we listened to the veterans ceaselessly talk about it ????? and sometimes it could be so very overwhelming for a small child to listen to it ????? and I really would like them to be a bit more sensitive to the children of the survivors in their remembrances. I would also like them to devote more public resources to the Polish Red Cross so they can better help us find our many missing kinfolk including my grandmother Anna, my grandaunt Maria, my uncle Jozef, and my grandfather Marcin:- there might be no big headlines for them in doing that but our valiant ancestors made so much of that forgotten brilliant Polish history and we really do need to find them or their descendants and to reconnect with them. The reality is that Mr Duda and the PiS regime are again following the mainland Polish tradition of "remembering" us when they want something from us such as money, or protection while they work illegally in other countries where we are living, or in improving their political legitimacy at home but as soon as they have what they want they suddenly forget about us and we once again become total strangers. We share a common ancestry with mainland Poles but it often seems as we have evolved into two quite different ethnic groups and we have actually fully retained the traditions of the Second Republic unlike the mainland Poles who have been deeply affected by Communist influences and still retain those Communist influences subconsciously and forgotten much of the culture and traditions of the Second Republic to the point that they will often mock our quaint old-fashioned ways without realizing that through us the Second Republic is speaking to them:- mo?na wzi??Polaka z Polski, ale nigdy niemo?na wzi?? Polsk? z Polakiem! I to jest moje dwie groszki! ???? State burial in Poland for WWII heroes slain by communistsHundreds turn out for ceremonies honoring 17-year-old Home Army nurse and a 42-year-old ensignBy August 29, 2016, 4:32 am Polish President Andrzej Duda at the presidential palace, Warsaw, Poland, April 10, 2016. (Mateusz Wlodarczyk/Pacific Press/LightRocket via Getty Images/JTA) WARSAW, Poland ¡ª Seven decades after their deaths, a state burial was held Sunday in Poland for two World War II heroes who fought the Germans but were later killed by the communists for their pro-independence activity. The relatives of the 17-year-old Home Army nurse and a 42-year-old ensign attended the religious ceremonies along with President Andrzej Duda and Polish government officials. The burial with military honors took place in Gdansk, in the north, where the two were captured in 1946, tortured and executed on Aug. 28, 1946. Their bodies were dumped in an unmarked pit at Gdansk military cemetery. Pavement tiles were put on top to conceal the site. The remains of Danuta Siedzikowna, codename ¡°Inka,¡± and Feliks Selmanowicz, ¡°Zagonczyk,¡± were found in 2014. They were identified through DNA tests as part of government efforts to locate and properly honor thousands of Poles who fought for the nation¡¯s independence against the Nazi Germans and then against the communists. Only a few hundred have been found so far across Poland. They were erased from history books for decades under communism. ¡°Against the plans of the communists and traitors, Poland will not forget you,¡± Duda said to applause during the funeral Mass. ¡°What you did was right. Glory to the heroes.¡± Hundreds of people turned out for the ceremonies at St. Mary¡¯s Basilica and at the cemetery. Siedzikowna¡¯s story is particularly telling and painful. Her father, Waclaw Siedzik, was among the thousands of Poles deported by Soviet secret security to Siberia in 1940 and died three years later. Her mother, Eugenia Siedzik, was executed by the Germans in 1943 for her resistance activity. ¡°Inka¡± joined the Home Army after her death and trained to be a nurse. After the war, she was active in fighting against the communist authorities that were imposed on Poland. Historians say that, according to witnesses, her last words before her execution were ¡°Long live Poland.¡± |
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Looking for volunteers ..... read on
Hello Eve-Marie Thanks for your offer.? Unfortunately we did not get sufficient numbers to undertake this project and it has been shelved for the time being. Regards Chris..... From: "Eve-Marie Galka eve.marie123@... [Kresy-Siberia]" To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Looking for volunteers ..... read on
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Hi, I would certainly be interested in helping with this work and as a former archive clerk at a big bank here in Toronto I do have considerable experience with this type of work and being semi-retired I certainly have lots of time for it! Unfortunately I'm on a very limited income so travelling to London and staying there etc is basically impossible for me. One thing they could do would be to get local volunteers to simply scan the documents into digital form and then make these available to global volunteers who can read them and classify them correctly by keyword and do the cataloguing online. Incidentally, I was born in a Commonwealth state (ie Canada) prior to 1983 so apparently I'm allowed to live and work in Britain without a visa so if I found a paying job there I could do the cataloguing in situ in my spare time:- does anyone there need a dotty secretary-receptionist with a wicked sense of sly humor (can you say "irreverent"?) who also speaks the "Queen's English" with a flawless near-Midwest accent (for some reason everyone always thinks I'm from Chicago including people from Chicago!). Cheers! On Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:25 PM, "wroblew705@... [Kresy-Siberia]" wrote:
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have seven members thus far including myself who have expressed
interest in this project proposal. We are still looking for more to
establish a pool of volunteers that will give us numbers to work with
and a firmer proposal to PISM. If you feel you can help out please let
me know.
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] New Website for the 2016 Kresy Siberia Generations Remember
Thank you Lenarda - the 9 characters represent each of the stages of the Kresy-Siberia experience. For an explanation of the characters and to learn more about the histories, visit PS The new web address for the Conference is ______________________________________________________________________________ Stefan Wi?niowski Kresy-Siberia Foundation President ~?Prezes Fundacji Kresy¨CSyberia Virtual Museum ~ Wirtualne Muzeum: Discussion group ~ Grupa dyskusyjna: ?
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] New Website for the 2016 Kresy Siberia Generations Remember [1 Attachment]
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGreat looking poster, very precise, honouring all those who went through this terror. Regards Lenarda from Sydney Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...]
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 4:46 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] New Website for the 2016 Kresy Siberia Generations Remember [1 Attachment] ? ? A Polish language version will be online soon ? ? Tim Bucknall Congleton UK |
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Re: Looking for volunteers ..... read on [1 Attachment]
Hi, I would certainly be interested in helping with this work and as a former archive clerk at a big bank here in Toronto I do have considerable experience with this type of work and being semi-retired I certainly have lots of time for it! Unfortunately I'm on a very limited income so travelling to London and staying there etc is basically impossible for me. One thing they could do would be to get local volunteers to simply scan the documents into digital form and then make these available to global volunteers who can read them and classify them correctly by keyword and do the cataloguing online. Incidentally, I was born in a Commonwealth state (ie Canada) prior to 1983 so apparently I'm allowed to live and work in Britain without a visa so if I found a paying job there I could do the cataloguing in situ in my spare time:- does anyone there need a dotty secretary-receptionist with a wicked sense of sly humor (can you say "irreverent"?) who also speaks the "Queen's English" with a flawless near-Midwest accent (for some reason everyone always thinks I'm from Chicago including people from Chicago!). Cheers! On Saturday, June 18, 2016 5:25 PM, "wroblew705@... [Kresy-Siberia]" <Kresy-Siberia@...> wrote:
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We
have seven members thus far including myself who have expressed
interest in this project proposal. We are still looking for more to
establish a pool of volunteers that will give us numbers to work with
and a firmer proposal to PISM. If you feel you can help out please let
me know.
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] New Web Site
Hello, a good place to get help in typing exclusively Polish literals is at :- you just type in the English characters as usual but use the extra keyboard on top to type the desired literals and then you can copy and paste your typed phrase elsewhere although it does help greatly if you do know some Polish so that you can tell the difference between proper Polish and jibberish. I have only "kitchen" Polish but that at least allows me to detect improper Polish spelling and grammar most of the time:- for example your father's name somewhere got Anglicized as "Wozniakowski" from the original "Wo?niakowski" and that is perhaps how you grew up pronouncing it but my "kitchen" Polish is enough to tell me that is incorrect and to look for the correct Polish spelling:- ie the Anglicized form feels very awkward if you palatize (soften) the "n" as even rudimentary Polish-speakers will invariably do so I would know that the "z" must be palatized too and that form would have a Polish literal of its own in the form of "?":- please try learning a bit of basic Polish, it's really not that difficult despite outward appearances! Another useful tool is the Google Translator which you can find by simply Google-searching (surprise!) " Google translator " :- however this translator is far from perfect and again if you know some Polish it does help a lot in using it so even "kitchen" Polish will help greatly. However you can cut and paste Polish phrases into the translator to get their equivalents in English or other emigre languages such as Portuguese and so on (and yes we do speak a lot of languages among us, we are very multilingual here!). Cheers! On Tuesday, August 2, 2016 1:03 PM, "christine rhodes chris.rhodes12@... [Kresy-Siberia]" wrote:
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Hi Pawel
Thank you for the information it's a wonderful thing to have.? I am a non speaker or writer of Polish.? My fathers name was Boleslaw Wozniakowski.? I looked on the the website and could find Wozniak but no Wozniakowski.? Will I need to view all pages to find him or perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me where in the Polish alphabet ?Wozniakowski is?? Many thanks? Chris? |
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] New Web Site [1 Attachment]
Hi Pawel Thank you so much ?for your help.? Not speaking Polish is a big problem for me. ? Best wishes? Chris ? On 2 August 2016 at 20:32, PawelK marga1@... [Kresy-Siberia] <Kresy-Siberia@...> wrote:
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] New Web Site
Hello Chris, I see there is a problem with Polish letters. You should use ? instead of Z, the system doesn't show the names if you don't use proper letters. I've entered Wo?niakowski, but there are no Boles?aw there. Was he killed during the Warsaw Rising? Please remember the database is still not closed. I didn't find the aunt of my partner, but she knows her aunt was killed there. There are number of Wo?niakowskis there. You can find them in two ways: 1. Copy from this email WO?NIAKOWSKI and paste it in the field SZUKAJ and press the arrow on the right (you can do the same with WO?NIAKOWSKA to find women) or 2. press any numbers on the bottom of the site to move to the page and just change the number in the address bar for 1779 (I put the screen in attachment). For all who don't know Polish the columns Nazwisko (Family Name), Imi? (Name), Data ur. (Date of birth), ´Ü²¹·É¨®»å (Proffesion), Adres (Address), Data ?mierci (date of death), Miejsce ?mierci (Place of death). Best Regards Pawel Kossowski W dniu .08.2016 o 19:03 christine rhodes chris.rhodes12@... [Kresy-Siberia] pisze:
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New Web Site
Hi Pawel Thank you for the information it's a wonderful thing to have.? I am a non speaker or writer of Polish.? My fathers name was Boleslaw Wozniakowski.? I looked on the the website and could find Wozniak but no Wozniakowski.? Will I need to view all pages to find him or perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me where in the Polish alphabet ?Wozniakowski is?? Many thanks? Chris? |
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Re: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Warsaw Rising civil victims list
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýPawel, dziekuje Bardzo, thank you very much.?? My Polish is limited, but following your instructions I found my father¡¯s Jarkiewicz family from Warsaw and now understand why he was so upset after WWII, because he was captured in the first battle and was held in Stalag for rest of war, surviving the Death March, then after Capitulation found out his family were able to fight, when he could do nothing, with many being killed.?? ? I wish I knew this when he was alive, because he felt so guilty being spared and being in the Calvary, he was trained to defend his country. ?
Regards, Lenarda from Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 3:07 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia (Yahoo)] Warsaw Rising civil victims list ? ? Hello, ? This is brand new database available on Warsaw Rising Museum site ? ? unfortunately it is only in Polish. For those who don't know Polish - it is enough to enter family name where SZUKAJ is written. ? Best Regards Pawel Kossowski |
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