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Re: Your book
Eugeniusz Krajewski
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHallo Hania, ? I am delighted that you enjoyed my book Straws in the Wind so much. Your insight is remarkable. My mother certainly was a ¡°tough cookie¡± as you correctly observe. Had she not been so tough, who knows if I and my siblings would be alive today to tell the tale. ? I would like to wish you a Merry and Enjoyable Christmas. ? ? Eugene ? -----Original
Message----- From: Anne Kaczanowski
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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:58 PM To: e@... Subject: Your book ? Received your book and thoroughly enjoyed it on? a?? long bus ride.? I must also say that as a child of someone who survived this incredible oddesy, it is interesting to see that piece of the world through someone else's eyes and helps appreciate the?struggle.? ?Reading someone els'e's journey? breathes some life into your own story as you try to piece?the events of that time-line?together.? As?I read the book, my heart ached for?you that you never found anymore info on your dad.?I could relate to my own search for the past when I went to Poland .??But I guess in search of him, you had the opportunity to find other things in life. Perhaps the loss of your dad in your youth?in some way, ?became?your?strength in?your future.? ?Also as I read,?I must admit I had to laugh when you spoke of your mother...I think there is a similarity here with the old slaviks...they certainly are tough ol' cookies aren't they? ? Merry Christmas and thanks for the book. ? hania Do you
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Re: STRAWS IN THE WIND
Eugeniusz Krajewski
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I'd be delighted to send you a copy of Straws in the Wind. Please send a cheque made out to E. Krajewski to my address at :- 11 Dean Close Leasingham Sleaford Lincolnshire NG34 8NW United Kingdom You can send me a personal cheque in your own currency, i.e. Australian dollars. The total cost, including the book, postage and bank charges for handling a foreign currency cheque comes to:- 37.50 Australian Dollars. If you prefer to send me a cheque in UK currency, bank charges would not apply and the total sum would be GBP 11.85 I await your letter with your own postal address. Kind regards, Eugene Krajewski -----Original Message-----
From: BJ JOHNSON [mailto:b.johnson@...] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:25 AM To: e@... Subject: RE: STRAWS IN THE WIND Good morning Eugene and thank you for your e-mail. What you describe is exactley what happeneded individually to my father and mother and their parents and siblings. I would dearly love to purchase one of your books signed off course. Please let me know the cost and do not forget the postage fee and I'll get the money to you ASAP. I gather an overseas postal order or bank cheque in your currency would be the best? Look forward to hearing from you. BJ -----Original Message----- From: Eugeniusz Krajewski [mailto:e@...] Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2003 7:07 PM To: BJ JOHNSON Cc: Kresy-Siberia Group Subject: RE: STRAWS IN THE WIND Dear Barbara, I am pleased to hear of your interest in my book. As requested, I am happy to provide you with information about it. The book full title is: Straws in the Wind The betrayal of Poland and one family's incredible journey. Author Eugene Krajewski ISBN 1-904623-01-8 Edition Paperback The book describes my own trials, tribulations and adventures, as well as those of my family, during the Second World War and thereafter. I, together with my mother and three siblings, was woken from my bed on the memorable night of 10th February 1940, by the representatives of Soviet Security Services, the so called NKWD. Our house was surrounded by armed soldiers and we were told to pack our belongings and prepare to be "resettled". What followed was a journey to the forced labour camp in the Archangel, subsequent journey to Kazakhstan, transport across the Caspian Sea to Persia, India and finally, England. The book has been well received by the British press. I attach an article entitled "The Incredible Journey" for your information. I have also had my book reviewed by the BBC Radio book club. Again the book was received very well. In fact the reviewers rated it 10 out of 10. Something they hardly ever do. Please let me know if you would like me to supply you a copy. I will then let you know the total cost inclusive of postage, packing and bank charges. Please also let me know if you'd like me to sign the book for you. Please also give me your postal address. Kind regards, Eugene Krajewski -----Original Message----- From: BJ JOHNSON [mailto:b.johnson@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:00 AM To: e@... Subject: STRAWS IN THE WIND Good afternoon. I have just received my latest edition of Kresy-Siberiaand noticed that you have published the above book. May I please have some inforamtion about this book as I am sure that I will want to buy a copy. Many thanks.
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Re: anders v. sikorski
Barb Kwietniowski
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýFor those who may be interested,?check this
source of on-line books.? One of them by David Irving
(PDF at focal.org)? is available at ?
There are other books?that may be of interest to the group.? The main
web page is ?
Barb Kwietniowski
Courtice, Ontario, Canada
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Jozef Soja: June 13, 1913 - December 10, 1989
concernedconnecticutresident
Today, December 10th, is the 14th anniversary of my father, Jozef
Soja's, passing. Thank you Kresy-Siberia Group for "bringing him back". Because of this Group, I have learned a lot about him. At the Group's urging, I have obtained his military records from the Ministry of Defense in Britain and a copy of his and his family's names and their place of deportation in Siberia on the Index of the Repressed list from the Sikorski Museum. I have met two Group members who aided me in meeting my father's brothers and their families in Poland - Cas Majewski who interpreted phone calls to relatives in Poland when planning my trip and Tomek Wisniewski who was my driver and interpreter during my trip to Poland in September. I'll never forget how you two helped me. You and all our Group members are wonderful! I'm sure my father sends you all his blessings. Thank you again! Barbara Soja Revoet |
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Welcome Henryk Dekker
Stefan Wisniowski
Please welcome Henryk Dekker to the group. Henryk we must get together in
Sydney sometime! Stefan Wisniowski ---------- From: Henryk Dekker <olsz24@...> Hello, Thank you for your quick answer. My name is Henryk Dekker. My family comes from Zytomierz (till WW I, and 1920-39 lived in Wolyn voivodship) Recently I discovered name of my grandmather's sister Zuzanna Nowosielska in the archive of general Anders. We did not know what happened to her. Last time she contacted family was summer 1939. My grandfather and his brother were killed in Kostopol on 16 August 1941. Execution in which died approximately 600 Jews and 120 Poles was observed by my mother and priest Spiewak hidden in parish house. Sincerely Yours Henryk Dekker Sydney |
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Re: Hi, my name is Rafal...
Paul Havers
Lets not forget the ones who didn't get released by the camp authorities
and died in the camps Free men/women, some camps kept the
"amnestied"? Poles
in the camps as they didn't want to loose valuable labour force. Those persons when they managed to get out eventually found their way to the Army of Gen Berling. Paul At 15:55 10/12/2003, you wrote: Hi Witek.
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Re: Hi, my name is Rafal...
Stefan Wisniowski
Hi Witek.
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All the captive Poles were meant to be "amnestied" not just 250,000. The agreement between Sikorski and Soviet Minister Majsky was "facilitated" by Churchill as part of the realignment of forces after Nazi Germany attacked the USSR in mid-1941 and the Allies welcomed the USSR into the common cause ("your enemy's enemy is your friend"). ?Stalin originally intended (and the agreement stated) that the Polish Army would be under Soviet command. ?About 116,000 were eventually evascuated to Iran. Rafal, for Anders origins in Blonie Poland, please go back in the group e-mail archives to August 2002 for my message and the surrounding ones in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/message/2215 Regards Stefan
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Re: Hi, my name is Rafal...
Witold Szymanski
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Hi Stefan, Rafal and all,
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On the subject of a quarter of a million of
released Poles from the Soviet
labour camps.
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There was a very interesting TV programme, Monday
gone, transmitted by Polonia, about gen. Wladyslaw Sikorski.
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According to the archives, it was gen. Sikorski,
who persuaded Stalin to let the Polish army be formed.
At the same time, gen. Wladyslaw Anders had been
released from the prison to?take charge of the task of forming an armed
force to fight Hitler's Nazis.
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That was how some quarter of a million of us,
Polish people were released from the Russian labour camps and headed, on a very
hard journey, without food and clothing, south to present Iran (Persia), Tehran, Karachi, India,
Africa?etc.?
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Regards, Witek?z Wolynia.
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Re: anders v. sikorski
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNot wanting to trespass too far into conspiracy theory territory¡¡.. One of my many tasks in life was the repatriation of people¡¯s remains. Most remains being moving across borders, especially by air, must be hermetically sealed and, in my case, were identified before sealing on departure and re-identified on arrival, usually into the hands of an equivalent coroner or representative. So it might not be too unusual to seal the coffin or open it! ? I am sure that if any foreign leader was on a hit list Mr de Gaulle was probably at the top of it! ? Stephen ? Obviously I can't verify this
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Re: anders v. sikorski
Paul Havers
Can't remember where I read it, but this is roughly what it said
When the coffin of Gen. Sikorski was returned to Poland it was sealed and it was returned under the understanding that it wouldn't be opened but Poles being Poles, someone did open the coffin and upon examining the remains found a bullet hole at the back of Gen Sikorski's head. Obviously I can't verify this and certify this to be 100% true but why return the coffin sealed unless there's something to hide. I believe that one member of our Royal family accompanied the coffin to Poland. Paul At 10:46 10/12/2003, you wrote: What makes you think that the actual assasination was performed by the NKVD?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Havers Director PMH Wines Ltd 22 Kingsmead Farnborough Hants, GU14 7RT (00 44) (0) 1252 544880 www.pmhwines.co.uk Life's too short for boring wine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Re: anders v. sikorski
What makes you think that the actual assasination was performed by the NKVD?
It is enteirly possible that HMG did it perhaps at the suggestion of an agent of influence. ---------- From: Razel <razelsmith@...>death was not NKWD job...there were many interested parts. But this is very uncomfortable subject because of (unfortunately and as always) political matters, even now after so many years...very sad. W?adys?aw Eugeniusz Sikorski was born 20.05.1881 in Tuszow Narodowy nearMielec in Galicja. That time it belongded to the Habsburgs. Read about polish annexations in XVIIIth century. * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION* Discussion site :* To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail*
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Re: Rising 44
John Phillips
Okay, sorry for that ... I'll try to get into ft through friend who
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works there, or else can fax you original eventually ... I'll get back to you, good that you ask as need a copy of article myself ... Rgrds. John ----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloydeen Glowacki" <lmglow@...> To: <Kresy-Siberia@...> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 21:36 Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Rising 44 on 12/8/03 12:29 PM, Stefan Wisniowski at swisniowski@...wrote: book onJOHN WRITES: that AKthe Warsaw uprising a couple of weeks ago. I note that he says I amveterans in Britain were denied a war pension by the British Govt. between Londonwondering if this has changed now or might do so. Relations considerableand Warsaw are now excellent and the British Govt. has gone to made withlengths to apologise to the Polish Govt. for some of the mistakes anregard to Polish Allies in WW2, especially I believe that I saw in Office for thearticle in Financial Times recently an apology by the Foreign the VictoryBritish failure to invite a Polish contingent to participate in or mayparade in London at war's end. Equally perhaps Warsaw Govt. issues beneficiallyissue pensions for AK veterans... mother!)... Bestsome of your Group members or their widows (as well as my rgrds. * citizensKRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION Two."deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War * Discussion site : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail *
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Re: thanks for the prompt replies...and a new question....
Julian S. Plowy
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Stalin was a mad man and would use anyone and anything to his advantage. The proof of that is written in history of 20 million of his own country men destroyed by him. Many people who loved him and followed him and his tyranny still think of him as a "god". Therefore, I am sure Stalin would use and accept any Pole or any other countrymen to help him achieve his personal goals whatever they might have been. My original point to you was that, "no one worth anything" would follow a mad man, unless they had to or unless their true belief was that Stalin was a "god" or that their "personal god" was/is money, power, greed. A calculated risk to live and fight for what is right (in some fashion such as underground activity etc) does not fall into the traitor category. So those who were forced and had no real choice but to join Stalin do not fall into the traitor category even if they were accepted or rejected by Stalin. Therefore, I have a hard time with your question regarding the motive of some Poles. Many Poles fought with Stalin and the Allies and then they were sold down river, enslaved for 50 years, sent back to the labor camps. Their motive to fight along with Stalin was that considered embracing Stalin? But, Stalin did embrace the Poles during that time he even let 250,000 free from his labor camps. How kind of him. Many Poles lost their lives to keep Russia from Hitler only to lose their lives to Stalin. Is this considered embracing Stalin? I do not question the Poles and their reasons. I question others for questioning the Poles. When I say others I mean all others. You can read daily those that question Poles in many different areas of the war and pre and post war questions. If you wish I will be happy to continue our discussion by direct e-mail Julian_plowy@... Regards, Julek -----Original Message-----
From: rjczapla [mailto:rczapla1@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:56 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: thanks for the prompt replies...and a new question.... julek, i dont think that its as simple as you state it. yes poland has been overrun throughout history. you speak of "true poles" but what makes a true pole? are we speaking of emotional/spiritual beliefs or physical charachteristics. and even if we speak of polish as a nationality, how often have the borders changed? who can "truly" be considered polish? Are people living in Lwow polish? is it a choice people make, or is that choice made for them? anyways, i think that some people, who might have considered themselves truly polish, decided to "help/support" the soviet union. some of our countrymen aided the nazis, others the soviets. i think in every conflict there are always people that "defect" to the other side. reasons are numerous why they do it, too many to mention here. i think that even though we may feel that what they did was wrong, one needs to examine individual cases in order to determine their motives. anyways, my question was this: was the soviet union willing to "embrace" these "traitors of the polish nation", after all much has been said about stalin's sheer hatred of poles? if they were willing to denounce their "polish" could they join his society or would they be killed too, like the jews and hitler? * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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Re: anders v. sikorski
Razel
There are many opinions about Sikorski's death. One of them is that his death was not NKWD job...there were many interested parts. But this is very uncomfortable subject because of (unfortunately and as always) political matters, even now after so many years...very sad.
Wadysaw Eugeniusz Sikorski was born? 20.05.1881 in Tuszow Narodowy near Mielec in Galicja. That time it?belongded to the Habsburgs. Read about?polish annexations in XVIIIth century. rjczapla wrote: most believe that sikorski was assasinated.? assuming that this is Do you Yahoo!? |
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Re: thanks for the prompt replies...and a new question....
Razel
That's right Stefan. And there were many situations, when people wanted to join Anders but was directed by soviets to Red Army without their will.
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Gabriel
Stefan Wisniowski wrote: As I recall, (Zygmunt?) Berling was an officer of Anders who remained loyal to the Soviets, to the point that as the officer in charge of the rear station in the evacuation, the last ships left without him and he stayed in the USSR to organise the Polish division of the Red Army (The Kosciuszko Division) that went on to defeat Berlin. Do you Yahoo!? |
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let me rephrase....
julek, i agree with you when it comes to the feeling that one needs
to stay true at all costs. i feel that deep down, where it matters most, every person believes in something and they should die protecting that belief, but...i also feel that the world is full of people that are willing to change their mind more than they change clothes. they follow the crowd, and are always rooting for the winning team. |
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Re: thanks for the prompt replies...and a new question....
julek,
i dont think that its as simple as you state it. yes poland has been overrun throughout history. you speak of "true poles" but what makes a true pole? are we speaking of emotional/spiritual beliefs or physical charachteristics. and even if we speak of polish as a nationality, how often have the borders changed? who can "truly" be considered polish? Are people living in Lwow polish? is it a choice people make, or is that choice made for them? anyways, i think that some people, who might have considered themselves truly polish, decided to "help/support" the soviet union. some of our countrymen aided the nazis, others the soviets. i think in every conflict there are always people that "defect" to the other side. reasons are numerous why they do it, too many to mention here. i think that even though we may feel that what they did was wrong, one needs to examine individual cases in order to determine their motives. anyways, my question was this: was the soviet union willing to "embrace" these "traitors of the polish nation", after all much has been said about stalin's sheer hatred of poles? if they were willing to denounce their "polish" could they join his society or would they be killed too, like the jews and hitler? |
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Re: Hospital in Teheran....
Lloydeen Glowacki
on 12/9/03 3:52 PM, Hintzke@... at Hintzke@... wrote:
In a message dated 12/9/03 12:55:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, lmglow@...Thank you, Teresa. Yes, she did survive and her husband and two children came to America from England in 1952. Then was your Mother a survivor herself? How could the survivors care for others when they came out of Siberia in such poor health themselves? Do you know if she worked at that hospital as early as 1942? Where did the physicians come from? Sorry for all the questions, but I've never heard this addressed much before. Terry Glowacki California |
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Re: anders v. sikorski
Lloydeen Glowacki
on 12/9/03 4:06 PM, rjczapla at rczapla1@... wrote:
most believe that sikorski was assasinated. assuming that this isBless you for wanting to learn the real story! If there's a place where you can find the truth, personally from memory, it's within this group. Julek's answer was real, and from the heart. War truly is a living hell. Terry Glowacki California |
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Re: thanks for the prompt replies...and a new question....
Julian S. Plowy
Rafal,
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In time of war, desperation or loss of live or limb most people might comprise their ideals. It is the most brave or cunning that do not. Your question is a question that can't be answered fully. But let me try to give you my quick view point. Throughout Polish history Poland was always in a state of war (not by its choosing) because Russia and Germany were always wanting to destroy it. I am sure that any true Pole would never willing join forces or give allegiance to Stalin or any other ruler or country. Please review and think about what happened after the war, with our so called allies. Look at what is happing now in the euro market. Your question I don't think needs to be answered by a Pole. The answer should be self evident. Best regards, Julek -----Original Message-----
From: rjczapla [mailto:rczapla1@...] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:00 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] thanks for the prompt replies...and a new question.... i would like to thank those of you that have begun to post in regards to my question. i have already found a lot of information thanks to your help. I would also like to thank those that e-mailed me directly. let me pose this question: do we know anything about Poles who, when apporached by the Soviets, swore their allagiance to Stalin? Basically, my question is, did people even have a choice of "join us, or else?" thanks in advance, rafal-chicago, usa * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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