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Re: Comprehensive List of Kresy Refugees to Africa and beyond

bert_bakker41
 

Dear Julek,

Thank for your offer.

The list is in the hands of the archive department of a large
organisation in Holland.
They tell me that they can scan it.
If it does not work out, I will come back to you.

Kind regards,


Bert Bakker



--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "Julian S. Plowy"
<julian_plowy@e...> wrote:
Bert,

I had the same problem with the Santa Rosa Album. It was to
fragile to bend
the pages and scan them on a flat bed scanner.
I got permission to unbind the album do my scanning and then have
it
rebound. It cost me some money to have the binding done by a
professional
company but is was worth it.
If your document is not bound then a flat scanner will do the job
with ease
without any damage to the document. New simple scanners in the US
start at
about 60-100 dollars. They will do an excellent job for typed or
written
text. I just bought a new scanner for photo reproduction because I
lost
every piece of equipment I had in the fire that destroyed my home.
If you can't find anyone to scan the information I will be happy
to do it
for you. Or I will be happy to send you some money to help in the
rebinding
cost or to pay to have these documents scanned.

Julek
Cairo book

 

From: "Julian S. Plowy" <julian_plowy@...>??Add to Address Book
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:27:47 -0800
Julek,
I am prepared to do scanning. Simply I need to do sample. Thank you for you=
r
help. As I mentioned the book is rather official in character and contains =
not
so extensive list of names. Its rather memorabilia. Let me do a few scans p=
er
day ( I am busy with other projects) A4 size is 297x210 mm which is
approximately 11 by 8 inches. Few years ago I read list of books. On this l=
ist
was a book published by Australian Government with short stories of Polish =

refuges from Siberia. About 2000 of them come from Africa to Perth by ship.=

This book listed all names. Unfortunately I do not remember nor title nor =

author. To find out I need to ring people I contacted then in Perth and fin=
d out.
I let you know.
Kind regards
Henryk
Sydney
Subject: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Comprehensive List of Kresy Refugees to Africa=


Bert,

I had the same problem with the Santa Rosa Album. It was to fragile to bend=

the pages and scan them on a flat bed scanner.
I got permission to unbind the album do my scanning and then have it
rebound. It cost me some money to have the binding done by a professional
company but is was worth it.
If your document is not bound then a flat scanner will do the job with ease=

without any damage to the document. New simple scanners in the US start at
about 60-100 dollars. They will do an excellent job for typed or written
text. I just bought a new scanner for photo reproduction because I lost
every piece of equipment I had in the fire that destroyed my home.
If you can't find anyone to scan the information I will be happy to do it
for you. Or I will be happy to send you some money to help in the rebinding=

cost or to pay to have these documents scanned.

Julek
Re: Welcome Henryk Dekker

Julian S. Plowy
 

Henryk,

I am not sure what A4 size is .
Please measure in inches and advise. When scanning if the page is to big
please scan the page in two, three or four sections. Please scan the pages
in JPG picture mode.I have a program that will stitch the page together.

As far as the type being to big I have never run into that problem. You can
always reduce the size of the page therefore reducing the size of the type.

Normally in typed text the size of the text is to small and the scanned page
has to be made bigger to view the text properly. When you do this you lose
resolution and sometimes you can't read the text.

The solution to this is to scan the page at the highest resolution possible
and therefore you can increase the page size and then be able to read the
text properly. You should always scan at the highest resolution with photos.
Later after they are scanned and saved you can always copy them and reduce
their size for e-mail sending.

If you use low resolution you can't increase the page size much to be able
to read the text properly.
Please let me know if you need any additional help.

Julek

-----Original Message-----
From: olsz24 [mailto:olsz24@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 1:26 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Welcome Henryk Dekker


Hello Stefan,
probably I send my previous answer to you to wrong address. I have a book
which I bought 20 years ago in polish bookshop (ceased to exist) in Sydney
for 50 australian cents. This book was printed in Cairo in 1000 copies only
in
1945. Obviously authors intended to produce limited edition book. Colour
illustration is covered with special tissue to prevent colour fading and
chemical reaction with the previous and next pages. Type in the book is
pretty
small and printed with ochra colour ink. Its title "1942-1944 Pulk Ulanow
Karpackich". First page started with photos of generals: Sosnkowski,
Anders,
sir Harold Alexander and sir Oliver Leese. It is a set of articles written
by:
Stanislaw Zakrzewski, Adolf Bochenski, Melchior Wankowicz, Bohdan
Korodziejewski, Michal Paciorek, ks Jan Malinowski, Tadeusz Staniszewski,
Martha Hemingway (in English), Tadeusz Wittlin, Juliusz Mieroszewski, Adolf
Bochenski (his second article) and Emil Mentel. The book has an official
or
institutional flavour. Some people are mentioned by function and initials,
but
stil it contain tens of names. The book is slightly bigger than A4 size. It
has 48
pages plus front and back cover and one back inside of the cover page. I am
afraid that my scanner will trim some part of illustrations however text
should
come complete. I am concerned that to make text readable, the size of scan
of
the page will be to big to present on the screen. I wonder what resolution
was
used for Polska Walczaca list of names? It is similar in size of type.
Kind regards
Henryk Dekker

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski <
swisniowski@p...> wrote:
Please welcome Henryk Dekker to the group. Henryk we must get together
in
Sydney sometime!

Stefan Wisniowski

----------
From: Henryk Dekker <olsz24@y...>

Hello,
Thank you for your quick answer. My name is Henryk Dekker. My family
comes
from Zytomierz (till WW I, and 1920-39 lived in Wolyn voivodship) Recently
I
discovered name of my grandmather's sister Zuzanna Nowosielska in the
archive of general Anders. We did not know what happened to her. Last
time
she contacted family was summer 1939. My grandfather and his brother
were
killed in Kostopol on 16 August 1941. Execution in which died
approximately
600 Jews and 120 Poles was observed by my mother and priest Spiewak
hidden
in parish house.
Sincerely Yours
Henryk Dekker
Sydney


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Re: Comprehensive List of Kresy Refugees to Africa and beyond

Julian S. Plowy
 

Bert,

I had the same problem with the Santa Rosa Album. It was to fragile to bend
the pages and scan them on a flat bed scanner.
I got permission to unbind the album do my scanning and then have it
rebound. It cost me some money to have the binding done by a professional
company but is was worth it.
If your document is not bound then a flat scanner will do the job with ease
without any damage to the document. New simple scanners in the US start at
about 60-100 dollars. They will do an excellent job for typed or written
text. I just bought a new scanner for photo reproduction because I lost
every piece of equipment I had in the fire that destroyed my home.
If you can't find anyone to scan the information I will be happy to do it
for you. Or I will be happy to send you some money to help in the rebinding
cost or to pay to have these documents scanned.

Julek

-----Original Message-----
From: l willis [mailto:lwil22000@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2003 9:44 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Comprehensive List of Kresy Refugees to
Africa and beyond


Hello,

I was wondering if you had managed to "scan" all those
names on the list into a useable document. Also, I
would like to know if there are lists of the Polish
refugees who went to camps in South Africa.

Thanks, Linda


--- bert_bakker41 <bert_bakker41@...> wrote:
Dear subscribers,

I have received a large number of requests to check
on family names
in the list which has kindly been lent to me by
Edward, an old
Polish gentleman who still lives in Tanganyika not
far from the old
Tengeru camp.
I have faithfully replied to everybody - as well I
should - having
made the offer myself.
However, I have slightly underestimated the number
of interested
persons who have come forward.

I have meanwhile made frantic efforts in the South
African town
where I live to see whether I could have the list
scanned or
photocopied. It proved impossible; the size of the
list is akward.
Scanning it bit by bit is no option because the
paper is fragile.

I am going to Holland next week and I hope that I
can have the list
scanned there onto a CD.

Please bear with me for a few weeks.

Kind regards,



Bert Bakker




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deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
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Gallery (photos, documents) :
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Re: Welcome Henryk Dekker

 

Hello Stefan,
probably I send my previous answer to you to wrong address. I have a book
which I bought 20 years ago in polish bookshop (ceased to exist) in Sydney
for 50 australian cents. This book was printed in Cairo in 1000 copies only in
1945. Obviously authors intended to produce limited edition book. Colour
illustration is covered with special tissue to prevent colour fading and
chemical reaction with the previous and next pages. Type in the book is pretty
small and printed with ochra colour ink. Its title "1942-1944 Pulk Ulanow
Karpackich". First page started with photos of generals: Sosnkowski, Anders,
sir Harold Alexander and sir Oliver Leese. It is a set of articles written by:
Stanislaw Zakrzewski, Adolf Bochenski, Melchior Wankowicz, Bohdan
Korodziejewski, Michal Paciorek, ks Jan Malinowski, Tadeusz Staniszewski,
Martha Hemingway (in English), Tadeusz Wittlin, Juliusz Mieroszewski, Adolf
Bochenski (his second article) and Emil Mentel. The book has an official or
institutional flavour. Some people are mentioned by function and initials, but
stil it contain tens of names. The book is slightly bigger than A4 size. It has 48
pages plus front and back cover and one back inside of the cover page. I am
afraid that my scanner will trim some part of illustrations however text should
come complete. I am concerned that to make text readable, the size of scan of
the page will be to big to present on the screen. I wonder what resolution was
used for Polska Walczaca list of names? It is similar in size of type.
Kind regards
Henryk Dekker

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski <
swisniowski@p...> wrote:
Please welcome Henryk Dekker to the group. Henryk we must get together
in
Sydney sometime!

Stefan Wisniowski

----------
From: Henryk Dekker <olsz24@y...>

Hello,
Thank you for your quick answer. My name is Henryk Dekker. My family
comes
from Zytomierz (till WW I, and 1920-39 lived in Wolyn voivodship) Recently I
discovered name of my grandmather's sister Zuzanna Nowosielska in the
archive of general Anders. We did not know what happened to her. Last
time
she contacted family was summer 1939. My grandfather and his brother
were
killed in Kostopol on 16 August 1941. Execution in which died
approximately
600 Jews and 120 Poles was observed by my mother and priest Spiewak
hidden
in parish house.
Sincerely Yours
Henryk Dekker
Sydney
An interesting Fact

 

Having just finished reading Antony Beevor's epic book "Berlin - The
Downfall 1945", I thought I would share this very interesting fact:

Apparently the Russian General in charge of a Soviet occupied and
recently defeated Germany,was entrusted with 10 NKVD regiments with
which to ensure order and police their bitter enemy. The General in
charge of the "supposed allied territory of Poland" received 15 NKVD
regiments, which were used to "concentrate the greatest repressive
force."

As the book says "this perhaps was the best indication of the truth
behind Stalin's assertion at Yalta that the Soviet Union was
interested in the creation of a mighty, free and independent Poland."


Michael Kulik
Walsall,
England.
Re: Comprehensive List of Kresy Refugees to Africa and beyond

bert_bakker41
 

Dear Linda and other readers,

I hope to be able to make the list available shortly.
The format is difficult to scan but it looks as if I have found
somebody who can do the trick.
Please bear with me a little longer yet.

The list also includes people who went to South Africa.

Thanks for your patience.


Bert Bakker



--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., l willis <lwil22000@y...>
wrote:
Hello,

I was wondering if you had managed to "scan" all those
names on the list into a useable document. Also, I
would like to know if there are lists of the Polish
refugees who went to camps in South Africa.

Thanks, Linda
Re: Comprehensive List of Kresy Refugees to Africa and beyond

 

Hello,

I was wondering if you had managed to "scan" all those
names on the list into a useable document. Also, I
would like to know if there are lists of the Polish
refugees who went to camps in South Africa.

Thanks, Linda


--- bert_bakker41 <bert_bakker41@...> wrote:
Dear subscribers,

I have received a large number of requests to check
on family names
in the list which has kindly been lent to me by
Edward, an old
Polish gentleman who still lives in Tanganyika not
far from the old
Tengeru camp.
I have faithfully replied to everybody - as well I
should - having
made the offer myself.
However, I have slightly underestimated the number
of interested
persons who have come forward.

I have meanwhile made frantic efforts in the South
African town
where I live to see whether I could have the list
scanned or
photocopied. It proved impossible; the size of the
list is akward.
Scanning it bit by bit is no option because the
paper is fragile.

I am going to Holland next week and I hope that I
can have the list
scanned there onto a CD.

Please bear with me for a few weeks.

Kind regards,



Bert Bakker




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i just picked up an interesting book

 

its called "the murderers of katyn" by vladimir abarinov. have any
of you heard of it?
Re: Santa_Doesnt_Visit_Siberia

 

Thank you for sharing your mother's story, ?which was very moving.
God Bless!
Sr. Christine
Enfield, Ct.
U.S.A.


Do you Yahoo!?
FW: Message from Gail Tedford re Chris Gladun

Stefan Wisniowski
 

I would like to forward you the below message from Chris Gladun's widow, Gail.

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski

From: "Gail Tedford" <gailtedf@...>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 18:50:39 -0500
To: <swisniowski@...>
Subject: Message from Gail Tedford re Chris Gladun


Hello Stefan- I hope you are well- I am Chris Gladun's widow and I want to thank you very much for the tribute you did for Chris on the KresySiberia website-I made copies of i tand gave it to several of our friends. As you are aware I worked with Henryk Sokolowsk to sort and preserve all of Chris historical documents. His family and friends are very grateful at the support of the people in the group. Chris left very specific instructions before he had surgery in March 2002 about suggestions to continue the website and important documents.At that point we didn't even know of he would survive the surgery- as it turned out he lived for another year. ?As you can imagine the last two years have been very difficult for those of us close to Chris. ??I'm sorry I did not write sooner but I moved last summer and just recently got a new email service through work.

Thank you again- please email if you get the chance. Best wishes for the festive season and the coming year.

Regards,
Gail Tedford
Re: Santa Doesn’t Visit Siberia

 

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DEAR ADELE,
?
?
??? ??? ??? THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR STORY. IT WAS A VERY MOVING EXPERIENCE. IT SOUNDS SO MUCH LIKE WHAT MY MOTHER AND HER FAMILY WENT THROUGH.
?
?
WESOLYCH SWIAT BOZEGO NARODZENIA,
BARBARA PLECINOGA
SALEM, MA
USA
Re: While browsing for a specific item..........

[email protected]
 

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Mark,
thanks for bringing this site to our attention!? Pictures were great - my parents came from Horochow - don't often see a lot of information on that town.
janie :-)
Pa., U.S.a.
?
?
?12/13/2003 3:51:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, Kresy-Siberia@... writes:

? From: stokertech
? To: Kresy-Siberia@...
? Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:50 PM
? Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: While browsing for a specific item..........


? -Hi all
? Just came across this site don't know if it has been mentioned on the list before.
? http://kresowianie.prv.pl/
? It's in Polish, but even if you can't read polish there are a lot of photo's worth looking at.
? Mark,
? Blackburn, England

Re: A new member needs help

 

Just in case you are still having problems, you need to paste the
ENTIRE site name in order to access the photo album.

For anyone familiar with the area (now or previously)the naval
college was off Gorsey Lane / Holly Lane in Great Wyrley and was
there between 1945-1947, from where it then re-located to Lilford
Hall, Undle, Northamptonshire until its eventual closure in 1948.


Michael Kulik,
Walsall,
England.


--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "george_slawek" <gslawek@p...>
wrote:
Try this:

set_albumName=Mike-Kulik


In Kresy-Siberia@..., "vantom" <vantom@b...> wrote:
I've been trying to access this page as I never knew this place
was there. (I come from Wolverhampton originally and wasn't aware of
its existence). I keep getting the following error message
Stawiski pre 1939

Tomasz Wi?niewski
 

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Stawiski Rozan Suwalki Augustw and many others pre 1939
?
I just added new album of pre 1939 images of Stawiski.
Look at
?
Other thousands pre 1939 photos of Poland Lithuanie Ukraine Belarus look at

"Alfabet Polski" - Poland Photos & Maps pre-1945
Tomek Wisniewski
Bialystok Poland
?
Re: A new member needs help

george_slawek
 

Try this:

set_albumName=Mike-Kulik





--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "vantom" <vantom@b...> wrote:
I've been trying to access this page as I never knew this place was
there. (I come from Wolverhampton originally and wasn't aware of its
existence). I keep getting the following error message

Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object
in /home/odyssey/public_html/gallery/classes/User.php on line 90



----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Kulik
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: A new member needs help


George:

My father did the same journey - From the Junacks in Palestine,
to
the Polish Naval College in Great Wyrley, which is in.....the
West
Midlands. Is this the same one, do you know ??

If so, go to


set_albumName=Mike-Kulik

Here in my photo album you will find photos of the Naval College -
you might even spot your father ??

Michael Kulik
Walsall,
West Midlands.


-- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "george_slawek"
<gslawek@p...>
wrote:

> My father, Marian, joined the Unaki in Palestine and eventually
made it to England aboard a troopship. He joined some type of
Polish
Navy Cadet training program in the Midlands UK
>
> QUESTIONS:
> WHERE CAN I FIND INFORMATION/RECORDS ABOUT THE POLISH NAVY
CADET
> PROGRAM?
>



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citizens
deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World
War Two."

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Re: While browsing for a specific item..........

vantom
 

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Mark, there are a couple of photographs that look like school bands or army orchestras, do you know what they are.? I have a photo or two of my dads which are very similar and it would help if I could establish whether he was in the army or at a college.
?
Thanks
?
Vanessa

----- Original Message -----
From: stokertech
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:50 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: While browsing for a specific item..........

-Hi all
Just came across this site don't know if it has been mentioned on the
list before.

It's in Polish, but even if you can't read polish there are a lot of
photo's worth looking at.
Mark,
Blackburn, England

-- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "Maciej Lozinski"
<mlozinski@o...> wrote:
> Very good site. Thank you
> Maciek



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deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
*
Discussion site :
Gallery (photos, documents) :
Film and info :
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Re: Ambros Siberia Christmas

 

I will use it as appropriate.

John Roy-Wojciechowski
Honorary Consul,Republic of Poland
51 Granger Road, Howick, Auckland, New Zealand
Phone 649 5344670 Fax 649 5354068
e-mail polish@... website www.polishheritage.co.nz
Re: AE Help Desk; Soviet deportation of Poles WWII

 

Doctor we are doing this.
John Roy-Wojciechowski
Honorary Consul,Republic of Poland
51 Granger Road, Howick, Auckland, New Zealand
Phone 649 5344670 Fax 649 5354068
e-mail polish@... website www.polishheritage.co.nz
Re: A new member needs help

vantom
 

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I've been trying to access this page as I never knew this place was there.? (I come from Wolverhampton originally and wasn't aware of its existence).? I keep getting the following error message
?
Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in /home/odyssey/public_html/gallery/classes/User.php on line 90
?
?

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 9:46 PM
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: A new member needs help

George:

My father did the same journey - From the Junacks in Palestine, to
the Polish Naval College in Great Wyrley, which is in.....the West
Midlands. Is this the same one, do you know ??

If so, go to


set_albumName=Mike-Kulik

Here in my photo album you will find photos of the Naval College -
you might even spot your father ??

Michael Kulik
Walsall,
West Midlands.


-- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "george_slawek"
wrote:

> My father, Marian, joined the Unaki in Palestine and eventually
made it to England aboard a troopship.? He joined some type of Polish
Navy Cadet training program in the Midlands UK
>
> QUESTIONS:
> WHERE CAN I FIND INFORMATION/RECORDS ABOUT THE POLISH NAVY CADET
> PROGRAM?
>




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KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION
"Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens
deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."
*
Discussion site :
Gallery (photos, documents) :
Film and info :
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