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Polish Catholic Mission to 2nd Corps Anders Army
Stefan Wisniowski
Elizabeth sends this helpful contact information for Church records (marriages etc.) applying to the Polish forces in Italy during the war. ?Hope it helps somebody some day.
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Re: Archiwum Akt “Zabuzanskich?
There is a Archiwum Akt Wschodnich, but I think it's incoroprated into
the Akta Zabuzanskie
the only problem with those Archives is that they charge an absolute fortune to do a search it's a whole lot cheaper to go through a researcher, that's what I've been doing Paul At 13:03 01/03/2002 +1100, you wrote: Paul has mentioned an archive in Warsaw as part of the civil records office
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Archiwum Akt “Zabuzanskich?
Stefan Wisniowski
Paul has mentioned an archive in Warsaw as part of the civil records office
which refers to the Kresy or "Across the Bug River Region". The contact address is: Urzad Stanu Cywilnego Warszawa Srodmiescie Archiwum Akt Zabuzanskich 00-950 Warszawa skr. poczt. P-18 ul. Jezuicka 1/3 (Phone Number. (0-22) 831-71-81 w. 14). I have not heard much yet about this archive, and wonder what information it holds on the Kresy region. Have any of you had access to this archive, can you tell us what the holdings are? I have also see mentions of the "Eastern Archive" - "Archiwum Akt Wschodnich". Is there such a pllace? Is it the same place? Thanks, -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia |
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Remembering & reliving horrific experiences
Stefan Wisniowski
Richard (and Tanya),
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Thank you for your reflections, and I am sorry to hear that you are hitting some roadblocks with your family, as others have also in the past. The information that you did obtain from your father in October at least gave you many of the dates and places. It seems that our families survived and coped with the inhumanity they were subjected to in different ways. Many seem to have put a "cap" on those days, much like the cap on the nuclear meltdown in Chernobyl - reliving those days is like rekindling the pain of loss of a way life they led before the war, of family members they had, of personal suffering. Others have gone the other way - writing of their experiences in order to "release the demons". In any case, it is normal to wish to not subject one's children to the horrors of such experiences. The survivors we are talking about are all in their late 60s, 70s and 80s, and when I reach that age I hope that I too will have earned the right to speak or remain silent about my life and about whatever I choose. Having said that, I have had some small success from spending time at the side of my uncle over the course of several days - whilst he was blinded in Siberia, he retained a meticulous memory of people and places. A way in seems to be to talk of childhood, life before the war, etc. However, even those who do recount the details do not wish to continue dwelling on them - they want to move on with life. The fact that the Soviet deportation experience of the Poles was not acknowledged by the West nor by Poland itself - for their different reasons - must have made it even more difficult for these victims of war to speak out. All that this does, though, is put even more of an onus on us - the younger generations - to recognise what was perpetrated on their families and to recognise the courage of the people who survived it all and made it possible for us to be here today. -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia ... I wish I could think of a way of unlocking the chest but I am coming to |
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Re: Digest Number 89
H. MacDonald
I am responding to Tanya's question regarding family. I, too have had some
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challenges with family members who were uncomfortable with telling their stories. I have done MA research on the topic of Sybiraki, and there were others, outside my family, whom I sought to interview, who similarly declined. There are several ways to show a potential intertivewee, whether family or otherwise, the value of their stories. There are also ways of ensuring their identities and privacy are protected. Of SHOWING them that these can be protected. First, explain exactly why you are interested in their stories. For me, there were many reasons, including strictly scholarly. As many have noted throughout the kresy discussions, part of the 'problem' is that once all of the survivors are gone, so too are their stories. So, too, is the history of masses of ordinary people who lived extra-ordinary circumstances. There are volumes on the Anders', the Stalins', the Hitlers, the Jewish Holocaust. How many history books, or poetry, or novels have any of us, children of kresy survivors, or otherwise, have we read that recount the experiences of our families, of a real part of history? Few, if any. How many texts are available; especially in the English language. Few. ERgo, who will ever be able to know of the story, to learn from the experiences of the Polish diaspora, etc., if the stories are not documented and then told and retold? If you then have their attention, stress that you are not interested in prying into their darkest places. That you simply want to know ... to understand the history that is part of who you are. That is unknown, and undocumented. I have interviewed near a few dozen survivors, and yes it is difficult for them to share their experiences. Often painful. When it becomes difficult, I respect their need for calm, and stop. Most continue after a cup of tea. Only one stopped an interview, permanently, after about 15 minutes. I remind them often if they don't like the question, or if they can't really remember, or if they prefer to not answer a question, they don't have to. This happens, as "I don't remember," or "I don't think I want to talk about that," etc., and then I simply move on to the next question. Everyone edits their experiences, even when choosing to answer a question, and so respecting a non-response is honouring their rights, while at the same time, understanding we aren't 'owed' all information. I find it helpful to have a map handy. Of Poland, the Soviet Union, of the Middle East, of Africa, of all the places they traveled. Also, to start, first, not with the deportation, but with their childhood. What was it like? Then, to conclude with their lives in their adopted homeland. Why that particular country? Good choice? Bad Choice? How different is life there than it might be had they returned to Poland? ...and so on. In other words, sandwich the difficult times and memories, with happier, less difficult times. Tell your grandmother, how can you know who you are and where you come from, if you can't find out from your own family it's version of 'truths'. Promise respect for privacy and that you are not interested in a) forcing her to revisit memories she doesn't want to recall and b) that you will respect her privacy, by not documenting those areas that she wishes you to not document. Only document what she agrees to. Good Luck! I have found it liberating to know where I come from and the experiences that shaped how my father is as he is as a father. Helen. ----- Original Message -----
From: <Kresy-Siberia@...> To: <Kresy-Siberia@...> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:08 AM Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Digest Number 89 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++tojoin toKresy-Siberia until theSiberia by the Soviets. The rest of them somehow avoided deportation toGerman retreat in 1944 when they were all rounded up and sent to Germany (nearwork in an aircraft parts manufacturing plant. summaryLwow) after WW1. My father died years ago but he left behind a basic through toof his "travels" beginning with his Officer training at Wlodzimierz camehis family's deportation to Siberia and his subsequent enlistment in the Couldacross Chris Gladun's site. He mentioned Kresy-Siberia and here I am. background oryou please send me a brief note introducing yourself and your introduceinterest in the Kresy-Siberia topic, so that I can join you up and Decemberyou to the group? 2001 another year!) caught my attention. Indeed I am sending my responsecc to the rest the polish-genius group as well as the Kresy-Siberia group toeven as far as to say that much as one wants the living to continue living,Thus I have for many years persisted - I like to think sensitively - trying toto Kazakhstan in early 1940 with the rest of his family. His father wasIraq in 1941. During his period of 'free re-settlement' in the Soviet Union mystory, helping my father by typing his responses to my questions in the form ofan e-mail (he uses e-mail but is slow at typing) or by tape recorder.Without further ado, I put this suggestion in an e-mail to my father and thoughtno more of it. A couple of days later I got an e-mail from my father whichfor he would not wish to describe the hideousness of his experiences toanybody outside the family and, what's more, his sister (my aunt) said that shenow no longer wished to help because her initial willingness and enthusiasmfor my enthusiam had given way to nightmares.got on with building new lives. They assimilated easily, with some such as myimmigrants; there for 'the work'.they were alive, it occurred to me that perhaps they will find out more thanwith which you have been presented. Should any other reader of this haveadvice on an approach then please feel free to offer it.<Tanya_78_2000@...>___________________________________________________ _____________________ |
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Re: [polish_genius] Digest Number 119
Richard Sochacki
Dear Tanya
I am guilty of glancing through e-mails but yours sent on Monday 31 December 2001 another year!) caught my attention. Indeed I am sending my response cc to the rest the polish-genius group as well as the Kresy-Siberia group to which I also subscribe. Unfortunately, I can oon;y offer a variation on your theme and would go even as far as to say that much as one wants the living to continue living, sometimes their stories are more inaccessible than those of the dead. Thus I have for many years persisted - I like to think sensitively - trying to find out more about my father's travails after being deported from Poland to Kazakhstan in early 1940 with the rest of his family. His father was murdered by the Soviets at Katyn; his mother (my babcia) survived until 'release' in 1946 and return to a then Communist Poland, in a labour camp telling the local peasants' fortunes by reading their palms in return for whatever scrap of food they could offer. Her mother died of starvation there. My father, then 18, his elder sister (then in her early 20s), and his younger brother enlisted in the Polish forces (the Anders army) being organised under British command, and left the Soviet Union via Iran and Iraq in 1941. During his period of 'free re-settlement' in the Soviet Union my father escaped from the labour camp with a Polish chap of the same age and journeyed back towards Poland before being caught ,and this, as he would say, is a tale to tell. However, the tale does not get told. The more I probe, the greater the promise of the story, the less likely it seems that I shall ever know. Towards the end of 2001 I applied more and more pressure on my father (now 80) and asked him to talk to his sister so that I might record their experiences (they live in the London area while I live in Perth, Western Australia which makes things difficult). I had a brainwave, a dear friend of mine who my father had known for many many years would record the story, helping my father by typing his responses to my questions in the form of an e-mail (he uses e-mail but is slow at typing) or by tape recorder. Without further ado, I put this suggestion in an e-mail to my father and thought no more of it. A couple of days later I got an e-mail from my father which proved incredibly deflating. No he did not think my suggestion was good for he would not wish to describe the hideousness of his experiences to anybody outside the family and, what's more, his sister (my aunt) said that she now no longer wished to help because her initial willingness and enthusiasm for my enthusiam had given way to nightmares. I, none too nobly, was initially miffed. It was like not being allowed to know the family secrets. Gradually, with the benefit of reflection which nonetheless does little to diminish the sense of frustration, I am coming around to the realisation that few who went through their experiences want to dis-inter them. When they were demobbed in England in 1946/47, they got on with building new lives. They assimilated easily, with some such as my aunt always dedicated to matters relating to the Polish community while others like my father became immersed in work in a largely Anglo-Saxon business environment. With Polish people they had to indicate only that they had been deported for their loathing of the Soviets to be understood. On the other hand, many English neighbours would never have thought to enquire as to what had happened to them or how they came to be in England (some English men of similar age to my father knew the history having had Poles as comrades or witnessed the exodus of the Poles out of the Soviet Union). Indeed to many, Poles were much like any other wave of immigrants; there for 'the work'. I wish I could think of a way of unlocking the chest but I am coming to realise that that may never be. Thus, recently when I read of somebody investigating their father's or mother's family history through military records because the seed of the idea of doing so had not been sown when they were alive, it occurred to me that perhaps they will find out more than otherwise would have been the case. I wish you luck and wish I could offer a way of tackling the challenge with which you have been presented. Should any other reader of this have advice on an approach then please feel free to offer it. Regards Richard Sochacki ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1. Help and Assistance.... From: "Tanya M. Niedzwiecki" <Tanya_78_2000@...>___________________________________________________ _____________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 08:27:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Tanya M. Niedzwiecki" <Tanya_78_2000@...> Subject: Help and Assistance.... I was wondering if anyone has run into this situation: I was talking to my family about the family history and asking the usual questions, "Where were you born, what church did you attend as a child etc" My uncle got angry and said that I was prying too much information and had no right to be asking such things. Seriously I wasn't asking anything too personal. I told him that I wasn't going to post all that information on the Internet or anything and that he didn't have anything to worry about. I even gave him my website to look at, but he didn't care. Now he has gone to my grandmother and told her not to tell me anything about the family. She is my only resource since she grew up in Europe and only connection to her side of the family tree. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can approach this? |
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Bronislaw Sokolowski
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Good day Stefan and Group
I would like to share with you more details of my father's military life. After graduating from the Jagiellonian University of Krakow in 1935, he attended Officer training in Wlodzimierz for one year then entered civilian life as a high school teacher at the Josef Pilsudski high school in Drohobycz. He remained a reservist artillery officer with the rank of second liutenant. His family, mother Anna (nee Pola), siblings Maryncia (with her husband Adam, a policeman), Zosia, Tadeusz and Wladek lived on a farm near the village of Felsztyn. His father Wojciech was working in the forests of Canada in Temiscaming, Quebec and sending money home. He was married to Halina Szymanska (not my mother) on August 1, 1939 at Truskawce but got called up for military service on August 28 as part of the 24th DAC (10 PAC - Przemysl-Pikulice)and fought the Germans until the 24th of September. Using a forged, German "letter of safe passage" he managed to bypass the marauding Russians and took up where he left off (sort of), teaching at the school in Drohobycz. The NKVD came on February 10, 1940 and arrested him. His wife chose to go with him even though they weren't after her. By coincidence, they met the rest of his family (except Tadeusz and Adam who had escaped to Hungary) at the train station and managed to get deported to Siberia together. Their camp was at Wierchna Kamionka (Viehnaya Kamienka? Has anyone heard of it ?)in the Jurginsky region of the Omsk Oblast where they worked in the forest industry. Ironically, as if being in a slave labour camp wasn't bad enough, he was yet again arrested (for being potentially dangerous)and this time thrown in jail in Tiumen where he languished from July 7, 1941 to December 1, 1941. Without the health or means to leave, despite the amnesty, the family stayed at the camp until April of 1942 when dad headed south to join the Polish army. He survived malaria in a hospital in Pahlevi, then followed the group through Iraq, Palestine and Egypt, finally engaging the Germans in Italy as a Liutenant in the 9th heavy artillery regiment. He taught Polish Soldiers after the war both in Italy and England then emigrated to Canada in 1947. He married my mother Anna Usowicz in 1956. A true patriot, he became heavily involved with the Polish National Fund in Toronto, Canada. He and his fellow former soldiers raised and sent money to the Polish Government in Exile in London. He and a number of his group received the Polonia Restituta for their efforts. It was the proudest day of his life. He died in September of 1978. It's too bad that he didn't live to see the fruits of his labours (the collapse of communism). Good Night Henry Sokolowski |
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Welcome Henry Sokolowski
Stefan Wisniowski
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It is great to see another fellow-Canadian aboard and also that Kresy-Siberia members continue to refer new members to the group so that together we can increase our knowledge of our family's experiences. Perhaps you can share some of your father's history with the group? -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia From: Henry Sokolowski <hsokol@...> |
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Wladyslaw Czapski
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Book.............
I can recommend a book on the Polish Forces in Exile, it's a little old
and it was given to me by my mother's friend
whose husband served as a "Cicho Ciemny" The book is called Eagles in Exile by Pat Beauchamp Washington published by Maxwell, Lowe & Co Ltd it has a preface by Gen Wladyslaw Sikorski Paul
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Welcome to Frania Biber
Stefan Wisniowski
Welcome Frania, it is great to see yet another Aussie in the group. I know
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what it is like to be on the internet after midnight! If you visit you will find lots of interesting information and links. Thanks for your background information. There may be a couple of inconsistencies in the details, though, and you might want to check them further. First, Stalin was not yet in control in Wolyn, a Polish province, in 1936. The USSR occupied Wolyn and all of eastern Poland on 17 September 1939. Is it possible that the deportation was after 1939? Otherwise, I understand that there were deportations of Poles from eastern Ukraine in the 1930s. A confirmed geographical location for "Orlince Antoniny" might clear this up. Second, the general whose army ended up fighting the Germans at Monte Casino in Italy was Wladyslaw ANDERS. Anders Army was formed in late 1941 by Polish citizens deported to the USSR (both POWs and civilians) who were released from bondage under an "Amnesty" agreed when Germany attacked its Soviet allies. This army was under the command of the Polish Government in Exile in London, and was evacuated to Iran in 1942 to be reformed as the Polish 2nd Corpus under the British 8th Army (the Polish 1st Corpus was formed earlier in England from the Polish armies reformed in France in 1939 and evacuated from there when France fell to Hitler). Those amnestied Polish citizens in the USSR who did not make it to Anders Army were later signed up for a Polish Division (called the "Kosciuszko Division") under General BERLING under the command of the Soviet Red Army. It fought the Germans on the eastern front, ie. in Russia and then through Poland to Germany. A possible chain of events may therefore have been that your father was deported to Kazakhstan (possibly in June 1940), and after the amnesty ended up in the Kosciuszko Division, from which he was taken as prisoner in battle with the Germans in the USSR. It would be possible to check military records (certainly in England for Anders Army and likely in Warsaw for the "Berling" Kosciuszko Division). By the way, you may be interested in the story of a Polish veteran Karol Wierzbicki (perhaps a cousin?) from eastern Poland, at m (written in Polish, though). -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia From: "Fran Biber" <biber@...> |
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Abercorn camp in Africa
Stefan Wisniowski
Rachael
I have received a couple of e-mails from group member and Siberian survivor Wladyslaw Czapski in Wroclaw, Poland, in response to my earlier questions about the Abercorn refugee camp. I am pleased to translate these for you (I have combined the relevant excerpts below) - good luck with the contacts with the survivors from the camp (just shows all you have to do, sometimes, is ask). -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia ---------- From: "Wladyslaw Czapski" <cz@...>I have established that there is a lady in Gdansk (Poland) who was in Abercorn. She can be corresponded with on paper. Please wait for details. She was at the "Africans" reunion in Wroclaw. Na mojej stronie www.us.wroc.pl/bio-rytm/main.htmOn my webpage www.us.wroc.pl/bio-rytm/main.htm there is a page on the "Africans" (Polish refugees) - find attached a map of the camps. Wydano we Wroclawiu ksiazke - kopia w zalaczeniu Pani JadwigiA book was published in Wroclaw (Poland) - find attached a copy (of the frontispiece) by Mrs Jadwiga Hohtnbeger - Gorzkowska. She lives in Wroclaw, telephone +48 71 3255583. She only corresponds on paper. ... Dnia 17 stycznia 2002 o godz 10.oo mamy spotkanie w klubie oficerskim zOn 17 January 2002 at 10 AM we have a gathering of Syberian deportees in the officers club for a Christmas show. I will try to find out about the camp but please wait about 2 weeks. . . .In Wroclaw (Poland) there is a person from Abercorn.
Rozmawialem z nim. Powiedzial iz w Abercorn bylo kolo 500 dzieci z matkamI spoke with him (Mr Bender). He said that in Abercorn there were about 500 children with their mothers from 1942-48. He participated in the reunions. He asks to be contacted either through me (Wladyslaw) or directly at his address. W Polsce jest Nauczycielka z Abercorn Pani Szubella.In Poland there is a woman teacher from Abercorn, Mrs Szubella. W Gdyni jest Pani Kierzkicz ktora byla na zjezdzie w Australii.In Gdynia (Poland) there is Mrs Kierzkicz who was at the reunion in Australia. ---------------ooo-(.)(.)-ooo---------------------------- |
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Santa Rosa Colony PLUS Bibliography
Stefan Wisniowski
I have found an interesting weblink to the Canadian publication "Miedzy
Nami" ("Amongst Ourselves"). One specific page worth noting outlines the story of the Santa Rosa Polish refugee colony in Mexico for survivors of the Siberian camps during WW2. It also lists a bibliography of over 100 books on the deportation of Poles to the USSR (most in Polish, but many in English). I have reproduced the bibliography below, but the site is worth a visit for the story and the photos. -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia -- Siberia bibliography MASS DEPORTATIONS OF POLISH NATIONALS BY THE SOVIETS DURING WWII Those VISITORS interested particularly in the topic are advised to look for a book TULACZE DZIECI (EXILED CHILDREN) published by Fundacja ARCHIWUM FOTOGRAFICZNE TULACZY, Warsaw 1995. It provides the reader not only with a multitude of information about Polish children abroad during the war (in a very concise form, Polish and English versions) but also numerous, good quality, rare photographs. You can also look for the following publications related to the topic: MASS DEPORTATIONS OF POLISH NATIONALS BY THE SOVIETS DURING WWII (objectivity may be very problematic sometimes, particularly in those published in Poland before 1990): 1. AIN KAREM - OSRODEK POLSKICH DZIEWCZAT. PALESTYNA 1942-1947. - London 1988 2. Anders, W. - BEZ OSTATNIEGO ROZDZIALU. - Newtown, Wales 1949 3. Baranski, K. - W TRZY STRONY SWIATA. SZKOLNICTWO POLSKIE POZA GRANICAMI KRAJU PODCZAS DRUGIEJ WOJNY SWIATOWEJ. - London 1991 4. BLEKITNI CHLOPCY. GIMNAZJUM I LICEUM LOTNICZE - HELIOPOLIS EGIPT 1943-1946. - London 1988 5. Buczek, R. - DZIALALNOSC OPIEKUNCZA AMBASADY R.P. W ZSRR W LATACH 1941-1943. (Kultura, Zesz. Hist. 29) - Paris 1974 6. Bugaj, T. - DZIECI POLSKIE NA DROGACH WOJENNYCH MIGRACJI. (Roczn. Jeleniog.) - Jelenia Gora 1979 7. Bugaj, T. - DZIECI POLSKIE W KRAJACH POZAEUROPEJSKICH 1939-1949. - Jelenia Gora 1984 8. Bug Xaj, T. - DZIECI POLSKIE W ZSRR I ICH REPATRIACJA 1939-1953. - Jelenia Gora 1986 9. Bukowinski, W. - WSPOMNIENIA Z KAZACHSTANU. - London 1979 10. Byrska, M. - UCIECZKA Z ZESLANIA. - Paris 1986 11. Chudy W. - W SOWIECKIM WIEZIENIU W BRZESCIU NAD BUGIEM. (Kultura, Zesz. Hist. 61) - Paris 1982 12. Conquest, R. - KOLYMA. THE ARCTIC DEATH CAMPS. - London, 1978 13. Curie, E. - JOURNEY AMONG WARRIORS. - New York 1944 14. Czapski, J. - NA NIELUDZKIEJ ZIEMI. ? - Paris 1949 15. Czarnecki, Z.J. - KATAKLIZM 1938-1942. - London 1980 16. Czerwinska, R. (ps.) - W SZCZESCIU BYLIBY TO LUDZIE DOBRZY. - Warszawa 1988 17. Czubek, W. - PAMIETNIK Z SYBERII. (Tygodnik Kulturalny) - Warszawa 1988 18. Draus, J. - POLSKIE SZKOLY W TEL-AWIWIE 1940-1947. (Rocznik Komisji Nauk Pedagogicznych) - Krakow 1987 19. Draus, J. - JUNACKA SZKOLA KADETOW W PALESTYNIE 1942-1946. (Rocznik Komisji Nauk Pedagogicznych) - Krakow 1988 20. 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Re: Hoping for Search Advice
Elizabeth
开云体育Stefan/Rachael :
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The Polish Institute and Sikorski
Museum
20 Princes Gate
London SW7 1PT
(Archives, Museum,
Administration)
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London numbers changed last
year.
Telephone :? (0) 20 7589
9249
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My contact there was :?
?Krzysztof Barbarski,
Vice Chairman & Hon
Curator
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I'd like to add that it took a while
for him to answer my letter, and,
when he did, he said :
"Please excuse me for the delay in
writing - however I should like to point out that
the museum is run by a team of
volunteers, often working there in the evenings
and at weekends only, and as such
these delays are unfortunately inevitable."
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THE POLISH UNDERGROUND MOVEMENT
STUDY?TRUST
11 Leopold Road
London W5 3PB
Telephone :? (0) 20?8992
6057
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Ealing Branch
19 Woodville Gardens
London W5 2LL
Telephone : (0) 20 8997
7965?
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Re: Hoping for Search Advice
Stefan Wisniowski
Rachael,
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A few ideas: 1. ?Siberia location: ?if you can supply your mother's full name, birth date, parent's names, and ideally place of residence in Poland, you MIGHT be able to find Soviet-era NKWD records of the labour camp through Alexander Guryanov (Polish Committee of "Memorial", in Moscow). ?He is at gurpolcom@... 2. ?Uncle's burial place: ?my aunt died (at 16) in Teheran in 1942 and is buried in the Polish Cemetery there. ?It may be worth you checking there as well. ?I was able to obtain confirmation of her death and burial from the Polish Embassy in Teheran, which watches over the cemetery. ?Their contact details (I did write to them in my broken Polish) are: Ambasada RP, Africa Expressway, Pirouz Str. 1/3 P.O. Box 11365-3489, 19-174 Teheran, Iran tel. (0-09821) 8787-262/4; fax 8788-774 e-mail: ambrpiri@... 3. ?Persian orphanage: ?this may be a long shot, but as the orphanages were apparently organized under the Polish Army, and most of their records (as far as I can tell) are either in London at the Sikorski Institute and in Stanford, California at the Hoover Institution - it is worth trying these. ?If Irena at HI is reading this, perhaps she can advise whether there are any files on the orphanages at the Institute in the Anders collection. ?I have not been in contact with the Sikorski Institute myself. ?Can another group member (Elizabeth?) provide advice on this one? ?Contact details are: The Polish Institute and Sikorski Museum 20 Princes Gate London SW7 1QA Tel: (071) 5899249. Mon-Fri 2.00-4.00. Hoover Institution Archives Poland. Ambasada (Soviet Union) Records, 1941-1944 Poland. Ministerstwo Informacji i Dokumentacji Records, 1939-1945 Wladyslaw Anders Papers, 1939-1946 Stanford University Stanford, California 94305-6010 Phone: (650) 723-3563 Fax: (650) 725-3445 E-mail: archives@... 4. ?Abercorn, Africa camp: ?The Sikorski and HI may provide some info on these camps as well. ?In addition, there have apparently been reunions of the "Africans" from time to time, and one was apparently attended by Wladyslaw Czapski in Wroclaw (the Polish centre of the Siberian deportees). ?I will ask him if he can help on this: "Panie Wladyslawie, czy Pan zna kogo kolwiek z obozu Abercorn w Afryce? ?Czy mógl by Pan zaproponowac jak sie dowiedziec co kolwiek o takim obozie?" I hope that some of this helps; let us know how you make out. -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia
Hello to all. ?As you may know, I am new to this group and have joined, like many of you, in hope of fleshing out my family tree and, more importantly to me, gaining a greater understanding of my family's experiences. ? |
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Re: Welcome Gary Bancarz
Stefan Wisniowski
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This is direct to you, off-list. Thanks for your kind words to Gary. I noticed you are in CT. i have cousins in Hartford and Manchester - are you nearby? -- Stefan Wisniowski Sydney NSW 2000 Australia From: BettyLL@... |
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Re: Poland's Contribution To The Second World War
Just to add to Elizabeth's email
I have the 5th? Division's regimental disposition before the war on my pages Paul At 01:52 12/29/2001 +0100, you wrote: Most of the survivors of the Kresy deportations ended up in the 5 KDP,
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Re: Welcome Gary Bancarz
Hi Stefan!
I'm in Milford which is between Bridgeport and New Haven; we're about an hour (or little less) from Manchester and Hartford. I go to Manchester quite often. There's several locations in Connecticut that still have a large Polish population with some churches giving Mass in Polish and there's a TV channel where certain times of the day it broadcasts Polish news! Betty - CT |
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