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Re: Kresy Pages
Hello Wanda,
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What is this organization and what does it do? ?I think the URL is incorrect because I could not access it. Eve Jankowicz Subject: Re: Kresy Pages
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Re: Film......................slightly off topic
Janie
When the film was originally shown over here I posed some questions to M. Melnyk via the journalist who assured me that they were passed on. That was about 3-4 months ago. Those questions had been specific and they did include my email address. To this day I haven't had a reply from M. Melnyk so when the film was re shown I re submitted my questions with a few additions. Looking back on the "reply" history I somehow doubt that I will receive one, but if by a miracle I do I'll keep you posted I have however received some other emails from Canada informing me that it's all lies and it never happened, and telling me to leave it alone Gets you thinking why? Paul To: Kresy-Siberia@... cc: Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off jmicchelli@ao topic l.com 10/12/01 14:25 Please respond to Kresy-Siberia I. Paul, Some of my relatives suffered at the hands of the Ukranians, so I too would be interested in hearing Mr. Melnyk's reply, please keep us posted. (if and when you hear from him). Elizabeth, Have a question for you as well, How did your mom end up in Germany? My folks were from the Kresy region and were taken by the Nazis, am interested in hearing from others who have a similar story.... thanks janie :-) |
Re: Film......................slightly off topic
Elizabeth
Unfortunately when I pressed the record button I found out that my video isn't tuned into Sky Tv but I'm in the process of obtaining a copy, when I do I'll let you know and if you would like a copy I'll make you one Paul At 14:00 12/10/2001 +0100, you wrote: Plus ca change Paul.
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Hi I woulkd like to pass on information about Stowarzyszenie Wspolnota Polska
active in Poland under patronage of the Senat. They can answer all sorts of questions even about Dom Dziecka. Their address is: . Their e mail: wspolnota@.... Ltes ask them about Dom Dziecka in Pilawa Gorna. Wanda. |
Re: Film......................slightly off topic
Elizabeth
Plus ca change Paul.
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Early 80's met a 30-year-old German on a Greek island. I sat for several hours listening to his version of WW2 (i.e. the 6 million odd people who perished in the gas chambers was a figment of everyone's imagination..) At the end of the monologue I quietly explained I didn't agree with him, nor did many historians..... The only thing that shut him up was when I told him my own mother had been in Dachau. Did you by any chance record the documentary? I can't get ITV over here. Elizabeth ----- Original Message -----
From: <Paul.Havers@...> To: <kresy-siberia@...> Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 9:16 AM Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Film......................slightly off topic Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"as it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist'sto it. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender |
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.Paul,? Some of my relatives suffered at the hands of the Ukranians, so I too would be interested in hearing Mr. Melnyk's reply, please keep us posted. (if and when you hear from him). Elizabeth, Have a question for you as well, How did your mom end up in Germany? My folks were from the Kresy region and were taken by the Nazis, am interested in hearing from others who have a similar story.... thanks janie :-) |
Re: Welcome Betty Lloyd
Thank you Stefan for the warm welcome to the Kresy-Siberia Group and, for the
addresses to the related websites! I was not aware there was any group of this type but I am very interested as I feel a very special bond to all who suffered under Stalin's reign, and there families. I will check out the sites and get back to you! Again, thanks! Sincerely, Betty |
Film......................slightly off topic
Last night ITV2 showed the SS in Britain, about the 14th SS "Galizien"
division I'm still amazed that in spite of all the evidence presented the author M. Melnyk and the "others" are still denying and disputing the facts. There were German documents that showed the divisions whereabouts and they are adamant that those documents are wrong. I suggest that if others can watch it they do as it shows the Ukrainian Nationalist's mentality to insist that they are innocent of the crimes, they've even managed to persuade their children that they were the victims I have posed this question to M. Melnyk, If you state that you're Ukrainians fighting for a free Ukraine and despise the Poles and all that they stand for. Also you have never acknowledged the territory being Polish, why then upon your surrender to the British did you all pass yourselves as Polish citizens. I'm awaiting his reply. * Fiserv CBS Division - Banking Technology for the Future. ** This e-mail should be considered confidential between Fiserv and the addressee organisation(s), and may be covered by legal, professional or other privilege (or other similar rules or laws). It should not be circulated to any third party without the prior written consent of the original author. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Nor should you take any action with reference to it. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately Fiserv (Europe) Limited - Registered in England & Wales No. 2467435. |
Welcome Betty Lloyd
Stefan Wisniowski
Hello Betty
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Thanks for your e-mail, and I would like to welcome you to the group. I would also direct you to the website www.AForgottenOdyssey.com, about a film in English on all this. On that site you will find many links about what happened. Let us know what you discover and what you think about these experiences. Thanks to Fred for posting his notice about our group in the Gen Dobry newsletter, which any group members interested can find it at -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia From: BettyLL@... |
For the Life of a Polish Child In Iran
Stefan Wisniowski
Thanks for this, Janie
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I had read this story of love and human kindness before, but had lost it in the sands of the internet desert. ?I will have the reference added to our links page on www.AForgottenOdyssey.com For others in the group, please do not hesitate to forward me any other web pages of interest to our topic so we can share them with the group. -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia ---------- Hi Stefan, |
Re: Tony Dzimitrowicz
marysiagrace
--- In Kresy-Siberia@y..., rwtruksa@a... wrote:
Czesc StefanI agree! I think it's no coincidence that, at a time when it has become essential and vital for me to understand where I have come from, that this group has materialised. I was speaking to my brother today (he lives in Coffs Harbour for all you Australians out there) and he expressed that he simply thought our father was indifferent to his past and that is why he never spoke about it. I explained to him what little I have learned since joining this group and thus what I have been able to piece together about a family (that he and I never knew) torn apart forever by a war kept silent, and how many of us there are out there who are actually in similar situations. He then said what I expect many of us have said many times, 'I wish I'd known all this earlier.' I am in awe of the number and quality of people who seem to be finding this group and who 'qualify'. So Stefan, for this I am truly grateful for your efforts. On another note...Paul, another beautiful poem. All the best Grace |
Books & things
I'm heading to the Ukrainian bookshop tomorrow(08/12) Notting Hill,
London
I'll be checking my mail before I go so if any one wants anything let me know and I'll see what can be obtained Linder - I'll have another look for that book you wanted Paul
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Poems........
I thought this might be appropriate as the last poem was very good.
This is a English translation I, left Lwow, on a black dark night for unknown shores, on a wasted journey, On my lips I took with me, the salty taste of my mothers tears
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Re: Books..........
Good luck Paul, just remember the author of Harry Potter went to 12 publishers who refused to publish and the 13th publisher decided it will be a great book! just because they are publisher it does not mean they can predict the future! I am sure the other 12 are pulling their hair now, it also shows determination!
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Web site..............
My Kresy site is down at the moment, the ISP is upgrading server software
for DoS attacks and the Gonner Virus it should be up and running by 11:30GMT today in the meantime if there's any info required please mail me Paul * Fiserv CBS Division - Banking Technology for the Future. ** This e-mail should be considered confidential between Fiserv and the addressee organisation(s), and may be covered by legal, professional or other privilege (or other similar rules or laws). It should not be circulated to any third party without the prior written consent of the original author. If you are not the intended recipient, or a person responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are not authorised to and must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. Nor should you take any action with reference to it. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately Fiserv (Europe) Limited - Registered in England & Wales No. 2467435. |
Tony Dzimitrowicz
Stefan Wisniowski
Please welcome Tony to the group. ?Born anywhere near St.Lawrence College or Potsdam NY?
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Tony, I would direct you to the website www.AForgottenOdyssey.com, about a film in English on all this. ?On that site you will find many links about what happened. ?Let us know what your cousin has to say about her experiences. Regards, -- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia
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Re: Book on Siberia/Wanda
Stefan Wisniowski
Thanks Nadia. ?Perhaps you could also post these scans on our web site.-- Stefan Wisniowski Moderator, Kresy-Siberia From: nadialars@... Hi, my aunt in Poland was telling about how her father (my grandfather) was sent to Siberia and because there were a rich noble family and had connections they forged a document and he was released at ?an old age after spending 5 years in Siberia ?was put on a train back home to Kobryn and someone recognized him, he was so skinny with fleas under his arm pits, just awful he arrived on December 22nd and 2 days later died on December 24th, on his birthday! coincidentally December 24th is my birthday also, my aunt could not believe the coincidence my mother had to confirm it.I can ask her to write me everything she remembered her father Tomasz Adam Dabrowski told her, he also sent letters from Siberia, I will scan and email it to you for the book. |
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