Can you run BAP?
?Us non Linux Hams like to know.
?I would like to get one working on my mobile and have it linked to UFI Rogers Hotspot. I have no Outdoor Amateur Antennas. I use a VHF Yagi and a Mag Loop on 14.078. If I can get the Quadra?Device to work on my mobile. I'll get WFView (Linux) to turn on my IC 7100 and I can run remote to the mobile using JS8Call.
Right now I'm using the W1BAW/version of BAP and it's running JS8Call. I see N0GQ did a heartbeat.?
Mag Loop is very directional. I can't pick up BC, Alberta hams as I get West Coast to East Coast. At least they hear me but they don't chat.
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Don Poaps
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On Wed, Oct 5, 2022 at 6:35 AM Danny Bush < NF4J@...> wrote: I have one of the $39 models as well, though I haven't spent much time with it yet...it does seem to be a quality product thus far.
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I have one of the $39 models as well, though I haven't spent much time with it yet...it does seem to be a quality product thus far.
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I have two of the $39. model. They're quite versatile.
On 10/5/22 8:54 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
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I'm wondering if this would work
in place of the PI. Will I run into the same?problem??
?I found this on the site.
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Don Poaps
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I'm wondering if this would work in place of the PI. Will I run into the same?problem??
?I found this on the site.
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Don Poaps
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I'll be glad when this PI shortage ends. Maybe I'll shut the FlightAware PI down and reflash with BAP??
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Check with W1BAW as I am not sure what mods he has made to the code.
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Re: #IC-705 - Connectivity for Digital
#IC-705
The magic of the BAP set up with a pi is no need for monitor or keyboard. ?Just enable VNC on the pi. ?If it joins a network, access it via that IP. ?If in the woods, have the HOTSPOT activate automatically with no network available and access the pi via the hotspot using VNC. ? Access can be via an iPad, surface Go or even a phone.
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Re: PAT Winlink ARDOP IC-705 10W Low 4FSK Quality on Rcv Frame
I had the same issue with ARDOP and found it began after an update.? Any kernel update after Linux raspberrypi 5.15.34-v7l+ #1544 SMP Tue Apr 19 13:16:56 BST
2022 armv7l GNU/Linux would cause the problem.?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Mark - WB8SFY
Sent: Tuesday, October 4, 2022 7:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [KM4ACK-Pi] PAT Winlink ARDOP IC-705 10W Low 4FSK Quality on Rcv Frame
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I posted a message just before your original on 9/30.? Mine was "Possible piardopc Performance Issue "? It appears we may be experiencing similar issues.? As with one of the other comments I first assumed solar activity was at the root
of the problem. I now think the problem is with the current version of piardopc and/or Bullseye PiOS.? I have included a copy of my original post.? I have also done more A,B testing with similar results.? My failures seem to be similar to yours.? I also noticed
more NAKs on longer transmissions.?
The current version (1.0.4.1mBPQ-Debug5) of piardopc may have a performance issue.? After building an Rpi 4b Bullseye 64bit (9/6/22), installing BAP v2.10.0 along with PAT (v0.13.1).? I configured VARA-HF and piardopc and got them operational. I noticed that
for a given set of band conditions VARA-HF would run a session to completion fairly efficiently.? When I tried ardop there many retries with a session often ending in failure.? Both protocols were using the same RMS and frequency.? After much testing on different
days I felt ardop was not performing as in the past.? Jason KM4ACK had cautioned that Bullseye 64bit may not be ready for prime time so I built a 32bit version and found ardop was not performing as expected.? I booted up a 32bit version from last spring that
is running ardop (v1.0.4.1j-BPQ).? It connected to the RMS server with minimal retries.? I switched back to the Debug5 version and excessive retries and connection lost. Back to the Buster version with (v1.0.4.1j-BPQ) minimal retries and a successful session.?
I tried the piardopc(v1.0.4.1j-BPQ) on the Bullseye 32bit and it locked on the 1st transmit.? Anybody else seeing similar issues?
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I just wish it would work on mi rpi 3b+
On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 18:19, Brian Dale <bdale.droid@...> wrote: ARDOP is not as good as VARA. There's been many a time when I have been unable to make an ARDOP connection but no issues with VARA. That's why I'm so happy we can do VARA on the Pi now. Having since gotten VARA HF up and running since my August post on ARDOP problems, I¡¯ve run both sequentially and had very frequent success with VARA HF but none with ARDOP. Perhaps that¡¯s why VARA HF finds adoption - better ¡°sensitivity¡± as well as speed?
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Re: PAT Winlink ARDOP IC-705 10W Low 4FSK Quality on Rcv Frame
ARDOP is not as good as VARA. There's been many a time when I have been unable to make an ARDOP connection but no issues with VARA. That's why I'm so happy we can do VARA on the Pi now.
Having since gotten VARA HF up and running since my August post on ARDOP problems, I¡¯ve run both sequentially and had very frequent success with VARA HF but none with ARDOP. Perhaps that¡¯s why VARA HF finds adoption - better ¡°sensitivity¡± as well as speed?
BRET/N4SRN
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Re: PAT Winlink ARDOP IC-705 10W Low 4FSK Quality on Rcv Frame
Having since gotten VARA HF up and running since my August post on ARDOP problems, I¡¯ve run both sequentially and had very frequent success with VARA HF but none with ARDOP. Perhaps that¡¯s why VARA HF finds adoption - better ¡°sensitivity¡± as well as speed?
BRET/N4SRN
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Re: PAT Winlink ARDOP IC-705 10W Low 4FSK Quality on Rcv Frame
I posted a message just before your original on 9/30.? Mine was "Possible piardopc Performance Issue "? It appears we may be experiencing similar issues.? As with one of the other comments I first assumed solar activity was at the root of the problem. I now think the problem is with the current version of piardopc and/or Bullseye PiOS.? I have included a copy of my original post.? I have also done more A,B testing with similar results.? My failures seem to be similar to yours.? I also noticed more NAKs on longer transmissions.?
The current version (1.0.4.1mBPQ-Debug5) of piardopc may have a performance issue.? After building an Rpi 4b Bullseye 64bit (9/6/22), installing BAP v2.10.0 along with PAT (v0.13.1).? I configured VARA-HF and piardopc and got them operational. I noticed that for a given set of band conditions VARA-HF would run a session to completion fairly efficiently.? When I tried ardop there many retries with a session often ending in failure.? Both protocols were using the same RMS and frequency.? After much testing on different days I felt ardop was not performing as in the past.? Jason KM4ACK had cautioned that Bullseye 64bit may not be ready for prime time so I built a 32bit version and found ardop was not performing as expected.? I booted up a 32bit version from last spring that is running ardop (v1.0.4.1j-BPQ).? It connected to the RMS server with minimal retries.? I switched back to the Debug5 version and excessive retries and connection lost. Back to the Buster version with (v1.0.4.1j-BPQ) minimal retries and a successful session.? I tried the piardopc(v1.0.4.1j-BPQ) on the Bullseye 32bit and it locked on the 1st transmit.? Anybody else seeing similar issues?
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#IC-705
This is great! ?Thank you everyone. ?I really appreciate how gracious and generous y'all have been!
I had success with my first pi build thanks to KM4ACK's YouTube videos. ?I am certainly up for starting there with rig control.
QUESTION: ?Am I hearing y'all say that using the Pat setup on MacOS through terminal is a bad idea? ?Or will not work at all?
My motivation in asking is the idea of having display and keyboard build into a MacBook.
Do y'all really enjoy any particular display or keyboard for QRP pi operations?
Again, grateful!
John
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Re: G90/CE-19 Flrig Connection
Hi All,
Thanks for the help. I got it running. Yours truly was an idiot and hadn't set up the expansion card correctly after I had unplugged it while moving. Crazy how that works.?
Thanks again for all the videos and tips. Exciting stuff.
73,
KC1QYB?
Ryan
On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, at 9:20 AM, Don Poaps wrote:
I have a G 90 and I use FLrig with Flrig Flrig in radio in JS8call, FT 8 Etc
In? Flrig > Config > I use the Digirig Soundcard and Uart for VFO control.
In Flrig > Config > PTT-Generic
Cat is BOTH
RTS is BOTH
DTR is OFF.
This setting works for Pat Winlink AS WELL You need to set up Vara Winelink setting per Jason Video.
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Don VA7DGP
Don Poaps
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I don't own the G90 so hopefully an actual owner will jump in here. From my experience with other radios, I would think you should use the USB-FTDI option. There may be something that you need to configure/enable in the radio menus for everything to work correctly.
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I have found a 1-1 RF choke at the feed point works too.
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On Oct 4, 2022, at 8:57 AM, Brian Blanchard via groups.io <brian.j.blanchard@...> wrote:
?I have Pi and IC705 as well. Also I like to take it backpacking.?
When you connect with a USB cable you may experience some RFI in the cable. Symptoms will show as the Pi freezing up, PTT sticking, etc. If you have this issue find a torroid and wrap your cable around it s bunch of times. I have a 10ft USB cable and wrapped the torroid about 10x (probably overkill). Make sure you look at the torroid mix and know which frequencies it will choke out RFI for based on your operations.
The last thing you want is to backpack in somewhere, set up your station, and RFI kills all your digital modes.
All advice above is correct. No need for the icom software. If you installed build-a-pi and have a USB cable its now just a matter of configuring the software. ?I came into digital with a Pi, and zero linux experience. It took a while to learn but I'm glad I did.?
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#IC-705
Definitely?use a torroid?/ ferrite. For me, standard practice here is to use Type 31 mix (1 - 300 mHz - found on Amazon) on all cables. Like Brian said, wrap as man turns as possible through the torroid. I have 3 different BAP setups. Two of them use the FT-857D and one uses a 2 meter HT / 40 watt amp. I have no issues with RF getting into things and screwing?up the works. And for good?measure, I keep several spare type 31 ferrites around the home QTH as well as in the Jeep.
Good luck! ? -- Mike WB8ERJ
Geeze! What is he up to now?
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Re: #IC-705 - Connectivity for Digital
#IC-705
I have Pi and IC705 as well. Also I like to take it backpacking.?
When you connect with a USB cable you may experience some RFI in the cable. Symptoms will show as the Pi freezing up, PTT sticking, etc. If you have this issue find a torroid and wrap your cable around it s bunch of times. I have a 10ft USB cable and wrapped the torroid about 10x (probably overkill). Make sure you look at the torroid mix and know which frequencies it will choke out RFI for based on your operations.
The last thing you want is to backpack in somewhere, set up your station, and RFI kills all your digital modes.
All advice above is correct. No need for the icom software. If you installed build-a-pi and have a USB cable its now just a matter of configuring the software. ?I came into digital with a Pi, and zero linux experience. It took a while to learn but I'm glad I did.?
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Re: #IC-705 - Connectivity for Digital
#IC-705
The hilarity being with the RS-BA1 software I can¡¯t even get FT8 or JS8 call to work on windows with the 705
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On Oct 4, 2022, at 7:43 AM, km4ack <jason.oleham@...> wrote:
?The RS-BA1 software is Windows only. If you want to start with the Pi, I would recommend a plain USB cable between the Pi and the radio. This single cable will handle CAT (rig control), DATA, and GPS. Get familiar with that setup and then branch out to learn more about your radio/computer combination. --
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Re: #IC-705 - Connectivity for Digital
#IC-705
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Don Poaps
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On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 6:29 AM Don Melcher < don@...> wrote: Not a new green tech here - and I¡¯ve been playing with the 705 and digital for quite some time now. Jason¡¯s advise is spot on. While I¡¯ve made wireless connections work, it¡¯s not simple and robust. I found having a Rpi or a small W10 PC at the radio and connected with a short - 6¡± - USB cable to be the most reliable and then access that device using VNC.?
WFview is a multi platform remote program for the 705. Good luck in your adventure?
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Re: #IC-705 - Connectivity for Digital
#IC-705
Not a new green tech here - and I¡¯ve been playing with the 705 and digital for quite some time now. Jason¡¯s advise is spot on. While I¡¯ve made wireless connections work, it¡¯s not simple and robust. I found having a Rpi or a small W10 PC at the radio and connected with a short - 6¡± - USB cable to be the most reliable and then access that device using VNC.?
WFview is a multi platform remote program for the 705. Good luck in your adventure?
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