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Suggested "first steps" for new users

 

Hi all,

We've had a K1000 since about 2018 but haven't really dug into the manuals too much (we figured out how to peruse the presets and just enjoyed playing those).
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I did get familiar with k1000.net and obtained manuals from there. I'd started to read the "Kurzweil K1000 Keyboard Musician's Guide" (K1000MG.pdf) here and there, but not in earnest until recently.
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When we got the original K1000 in 2018, the seller did tell us that it had been upgraded to some degree, but didn't know the details (and after having done some digging in k1000.net, I don't think in retrospect that we would have understood them at the time anyway!).
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I remember being a bit puzzled how the manual seemed to indicate a program range up to 127, but I was seeing things in these "100", "200", "300" and "400" ranges, with a lot of repetition. I did find program lists on the site and I did some manual verification of what was in the original keyboard from 2018 (see below).
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Recently I got a K1000 SE from one of the list members here. It needs a new volume slider (and maybe some other fixes; TBD) and I'm looking to correctly identify it.
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I've been revisiting the original keyboard as well and am wondering if I've been reading the wrong manual!
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In my notes for the original keyboard, I have this written down:
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Engine: v5.32
Setups: v5.10
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I have a hand-scrawled list I must have done several years ago, starting from "000" (which says "No Prg Assigned") up to "099" (the unit skips over "100"), then "101" to "163" (this one says "Tuning Note/Click"), then it skips over "164" to "200", then "201" to "299" (it skips over "300") then "301" to "363" (skipping the rest through "400" similarly as before", then for "401" to "493" it just says "(not found)" for each. After "493" it goes back to "000". I have another note saying "Verified to match the "Pro 1 Sounds" list."
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I might do a similar exercise for the newly-arrived K1000 SE, but I would like to make sure I read the correct manuals.?
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I note that the K1000 SE came with a few bound volumes; sorry for the painful detail here, but I wanted to reproduce the title pages, as I don't believe these particular volumes appear on the "Manuals" section of k1000.net:
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First one:
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Musician's Guide
Kurzweil K1000 SE Keyboard
By Ralph Jones
Gary Davis & Associates
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Updated and Amended by
Romeo Music, Inc.
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(at the bottom is the KMS address block)
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Second one:
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Musician's Guide
Kurzweil K1000 SE II
& SE II Extended
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(address block)
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Third one:
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Version 5 Addendum
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Musician's Guide
Kurzweil 1000 Series
Synthesizers
With Version 5 Software
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Would it be helpful to add these to the PDF files on the "Manuals" page, or, if anyone is familiar with these, were they superseded by files already available there?
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Finally to the actual point of my post here:
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I got the idea to provide a kind if "first steps" procedure for someone who acquires a 1000-series instrument of any kind. Considering the upgradeability of these instruments, what it says on the front panel from the original factory instrument may belie what lies under the hood.
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I'm imagining such a procedure would tell you to press some sequence of buttons to get info like those "Engine" and "Setups" numbers, and maybe some other kinds of identifying info.
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Hopefully having that info, it could be mapped into a table that would include a mapping to the proper manuals and maybe even the proper program lists etc.
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Is this a silly or infeasible idea?
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Apparently our original 2018 K1000 is in reality a "Version 5" machine - I had no idea what "v5.32" really meant until I got these new manuals when the K1000 SE showed up the other day! That is probably more due to my ignorance in properly digesting what is on k1000.net, but I'm wondering if there's a way to provide a bit more direct guidance for total noobs. I'm feeling I should forget reading "K1000MG.pdf" or "K1000ProgRef.pdf" and instead use the new ones that just arrived...
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Any thoughts, suggestions, etc. appreciated!
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Thanks,
Chuck


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Fine with me.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rick3ry@...
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2024 4:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

OK. Just confirming I'm sending this to Chuck/cityacct.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Yep; thanks! /C

On 2024-09-01 05:27, rick3ry@... wrote:
OK. Just confirming I'm sending this to Chuck/cityacct.
Links:
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[1] /g/K1000-K1200/message/306
[2] /mt/107841539/2509318
[3] /g/K1000-K1200/post
[4] /g/K1000-K1200/editsub/2509318
[5] /g/K1000-K1200/leave/12372658/2509318/202608170/xyzzy


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

OK. Just confirming I'm sending this to Chuck/cityacct.
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Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Hi again,

Nicole - if you fully want it, OK; otherwise I was going to go for it myself. I had to figure out a shipping estimate which took me a little while.

Let me know - if you are mainly interested in saving it from the landfill, I'm happy to do that (as I mentioned somewhere along the line, this might be a step up from the K1000 we have) but if you have your hear set on it I understand as well!

Thanks,
Chuck

On 2024-08-27 09:34, Nicole Massey wrote:
Okay, then it's got fairly close to th3e top OS, and if you open it up it might be fully upgraded. Let me know if nobody else claims it and I'll get with you to work out me covering shipping.
Nicole
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rick3ry@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 12:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free
After a bit of playing around (I never used this instrument and don't play a keyboard) I was able to get to master menu 030, which reads "Show Version". According to the manual this should show the software version if I press the value up / yes button, but I'm not getting any reaction. It seems like that key is not making good contact; the 'no' key will toggle confirmation (029) on/off, but 'yes' doesn't do anything. The manual that lists the correct value of menu 030 is the version 5 addendum if that is any help.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Okay, then it's got fairly close to th3e top OS, and if you open it up it might be fully upgraded. Let me know if nobody else claims it and I'll get with you to work out me covering shipping.
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rick3ry@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 12:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

After a bit of playing around (I never used this instrument and don't play a keyboard) I was able to get to master menu 030, which reads "Show Version". According to the manual this should show the software version if I press the value up / yes button, but I'm not getting any reaction. It seems like that key is not making good contact; the 'no' key will toggle confirmation (029) on/off, but 'yes' doesn't do anything. The manual that lists the correct value of menu 030 is the version 5 addendum if that is any help.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

After a bit of playing around (I never used this instrument and don't play a keyboard) I was able to get to master menu 030, which reads "Show Version". According to the manual this should show the software version if I press the value up / yes button, but I'm not getting any reaction. It seems like that key is not making good contact; the 'no' key will toggle confirmation (029) on/off, but 'yes' doesn't do anything. The manual that lists the correct value of menu 030 is the version 5 addendum if that is any help.
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Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

I'm sure it does need some love. Sliders get scratchy over time.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

I don't know if it's on their website archives, but Keyboard magazine did a
review of the 1000 SE.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cltyacct
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 12:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: Nicole Massey <nyyki@...>
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

Mulling it over; we have a "K1000", but it has some degree of upgrades.
I'm no expert on the confusing nature of the 1000 series upgrades, though!
My quick looking into it gave me the impression that this one is probably
newer / more upgraded. My daughter really likes some of the sounds in the
unit we have, so I figured a bump might be a good thing. I forget how to
check the OS version, but will try to find it. I could look up the shipping
myself, but I'd need your zip. Ours is 18902, if you don't mind looking it
up. Thanks in advance!

On 2024-08-26 12:11, Nicole Massey wrote:
I said I'd give it a home if nobody else is interested, but I'll defer
to someone else if they want to love it and feed it and call it
George.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
cltyacct
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: rick3ry@...
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

yes, it is claimed already, correct?

On 2024-08-26 01:42, rick3ry@... wrote:
I only saw two questions:

* it is not currently gone, but going soon
* I'm not completely sure of the version. I attempted to post some
pictures, but those don't seem to have made it. I can attempt to
repost the pictures of the chips inside it



Links:
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[1] /g/K1000-K1200/message/293
[2] /mt/107841539/2509318
[3] /g/K1000-K1200/post
[4] /g/K1000-K1200/editsub/2509318
[5]
/g/K1000-K1200/leave/12372658/2509318/202608170/xyzz
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Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Mulling it over; we have a "K1000", but it has some degree of upgrades. I'm no expert on the confusing nature of the 1000 series upgrades, though! My quick looking into it gave me the impression that this one is probably newer / more upgraded. My daughter really likes some of the sounds in the unit we have, so I figured a bump might be a good thing. I forget how to check the OS version, but will try to find it. I could look up the shipping myself, but I'd need your zip. Ours is 18902, if you don't mind looking it up. Thanks in advance!

On 2024-08-26 12:11, Nicole Massey wrote:
I said I'd give it a home if nobody else is interested, but I'll defer to
someone else if they want to love it and feed it and call it George.
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cltyacct
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: rick3ry@...
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free
yes, it is claimed already, correct?
On 2024-08-26 01:42, rick3ry@... wrote:
I only saw two questions:
* it is not currently gone, but going soon
* I'm not completely sure of the version. I attempted to post some
pictures, but those don't seem to have made it. I can attempt to
repost the pictures of the chips inside it
Links:
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[1] /g/K1000-K1200/message/293
[2] /mt/107841539/2509318
[3] /g/K1000-K1200/post
[4] /g/K1000-K1200/editsub/2509318
[5]
/g/K1000-K1200/leave/12372658/2509318/202608170/xyzzy


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

I said I'd give it a home if nobody else is interested, but I'll defer to
someone else if they want to love it and feed it and call it George.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of cltyacct
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: rick3ry@...
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

yes, it is claimed already, correct?

On 2024-08-26 01:42, rick3ry@... wrote:
I only saw two questions:

* it is not currently gone, but going soon
* I'm not completely sure of the version. I attempted to post some
pictures, but those don't seem to have made it. I can attempt to
repost the pictures of the chips inside it



Links:
------
[1] /g/K1000-K1200/message/293
[2] /mt/107841539/2509318
[3] /g/K1000-K1200/post
[4] /g/K1000-K1200/editsub/2509318
[5]
/g/K1000-K1200/leave/12372658/2509318/202608170/xyzzy


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Nicole wants it if nobody else does, and was giving others a chance to express interest.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

yes, it is claimed already, correct?

On 2024-08-26 01:42, rick3ry@... wrote:
I only saw two questions:
* it is not currently gone, but going soon
* I'm not completely sure of the version. I attempted to post some
pictures, but those don't seem to have made it. I can attempt to
repost the pictures of the chips inside it
Links:
------
[1] /g/K1000-K1200/message/293
[2] /mt/107841539/2509318
[3] /g/K1000-K1200/post
[4] /g/K1000-K1200/editsub/2509318
[5] /g/K1000-K1200/leave/12372658/2509318/202608170/xyzzy


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

If you get into the master menu there's an entry to show the OS version. This could be helpful.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rick3ry@...
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2024 12:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

I only saw two questions:

* it is not currently gone, but going soon
* I'm not completely sure of the version. I attempted to post some pictures, but those don't seem to have made it. I can attempt to repost the pictures of the chips inside it


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

I only saw two questions:
  • it is not currently gone, but going soon
  • I'm not completely sure of the version. I attempted to post some pictures, but those don't seem to have made it. I can attempt to repost the pictures of the chips inside it
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Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

Okay, anyone else interested in it before I take it off the market?

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of rick3ry@...
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2024 6:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [K1000-K1200] Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

I checked with UPS and packing and shipping came out to $150.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

I checked with UPS and packing and shipping came out to $150.


Re: Kurzweil K1000 Special Edition for free

 

I recall assisting with an upgrade some time ago. I can pop it open and see if there are obvious marks on the EPROMs a little later. What I most remember about it was taking steps to preserve the demo programs.