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[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

Dave
 

oracleel-@... wrote:
original article:
Hey everyone! I just got into Jazz guitar about 6 months ago (have
been
playing for 2 years) and I REALLY love it, but am having a few
"hardware"
problems.

I'm using solidbody guitars... A Carvin SC90 (like the Les Paul) and
a
Fender Strat. Now, I really like this setup into my Fender Twin
Reverb, but
when it comes to traditional big band Jazz swing (Basie, Ellington)
they
aren't doing very well for the fat, flappy Jazz guitar tone that
semi-hollow's get. I don't really know what to do... I'm tempted to
put a
pickup in my acoustic guitar because it's tone is good like that..
What is
everyone else's view? Thanks for ALL your help!!
Hey

Roll your tone off....add bass on your amp! Canadian Ed Bickert plays
Traditional jazz and gets a GREAT tone out of his Tele!....he is a
monster player!....check him and his tone out.

Take care

Dave


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

 

Another thing that can add to the mellow jazz sound and still achieve that
punch,
is to pick over the front pick-up. I've been using a Fender hollow body
(Jimmy
D'Aquisto design) for about ten years now. I want to be buried with it. The
guitar, strings, pick, guitar set-up, amp and amp sttings all define the
sound. I
personally like the Kenny Burrell sound and have tried for years to achieve
it. This
is a frustrating thing to do because the instrument sounds different when
played
in different settings and under different circumstances ie, on stage, small
clubs,
outside etc. We do the best we can, and somtimes we come very close, but I
don't think we're ever completely satisfied with our own sound. Best of luck

Flip Hoopes


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

 

I agree with Jack. Practice, not the instrument makes the difference. Clint
Strong plays a Les Paul. Ed Bickert used a Telecaster. Pat Martino uses
whatever. Lenny Breau is also pictured with a solid body. The Epiphones are
also a good choice. I have the Joe Pass model. I put Benedetto humbucker in
the neck position. In my opinion, you can also tweek a pretty good jazz tone
out of a Strat or Carvin neck position. There are super players with flat
tops of all kinds. It's the player, not the ax once you get around the
inherent feedback problems of hollow bodies. If it works on the gig, use it.
Good luck, Polk Shelton


[jazzguitar] Re: R: Jazz Tone

Johnny
 

newbie from italy here...

sure the problem of archtop is the feedback you may have playing live
i got a fantastic es175 natural,beautiful like a beautiful woman,withh a
fantastic sound...

but i,like a beautiful woman, it often goes to get up its head and to start
great buzzing...

the work to take it down is hard,but at the end, you will have a great
satisfaction..

i have also a fantastic Ibanez Sseries,...i can say that this guitar can
play ALL KIND OF MUSIC....really...and the cost is not too much

then i have a fender strato...a gibson L6S...two classics

....and a little Aria pro2 customized that i use with bottleneck ....

My idol is
P.A.T.M.E.T.H.E.N.Y.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regards

Johnny

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent Stuntzner <stuntzner@...>
To: <jazzguitar@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2000 4:07 AM
Subject: [jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone



Yeah, I too love the sound of archtop guitars... I just bought the
Carvin
though so I'm kind of looked into the two solid-bodies... Anyway, I'm
young
I suppose (18) and I have much more life to live and money to make so an
Archtop isn't really out of the question in the future (hey, if it takes
a
lifetime to "become" jazz I got some time :). Thanks for all the help!
Now,
I need to get my Basie, Pass and Bruno recordings and start practicing!
:)


Speaking of practicing, you may want to check out my website for FREE
transcriptions of Burrell, Montgomery, Bruno, and Green. Have fun!

--brent


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[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

Jim Sullivan
 

The secret of tone on a solid body guitar is in the strings. The heavier the
string guage is the fater the the sound and that fat sound is what the
difference is. Most guiitarist's today use 008 to 0010 sets. my string guage
0012, 0015, 0019, 0032, 0046, 0058, this gives me a great tone for jazz and
I can still use this setup for blues and rock. I also use a very low action
so I casn still do all the tricks that modern guitar playing demands. I use
a Patrick Eggle Legend guitar and a Mesa MK4 Amp this covers all the sounds
I need, even country. Big Jim Sullivan

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent Stuntzner <stuntzner@...>
To: <jazzguitar@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 4:19 PM
Subject: [jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone



I'm using solidbody guitars... A Carvin SC90 (like the Les Paul) and
a
Fender Strat. Now, I really like this setup into my Fender Twin
Reverb, but
when it comes to traditional big band Jazz swing (Basie, Ellington)
they
aren't doing very well for the fat, flappy Jazz guitar tone that
semi-hollow's get. I don't really know what to do... I'm tempted to
put a
pickup in my acoustic guitar because it's tone is good like that..
What is
everyone else's view? Thanks for ALL your help!!
It occurs to me that I saw a video of a Sonny Rollins performance recently
(the performance taking place sometime in the 70's) and that his guitar
player (a young Asian-American) was playing a Les Paul and was getting a
nice jazz tone out of it. Maybe someone else might know his name and his
setup?

--brent


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[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

Brent Stuntzner
 

Yeah, I too love the sound of archtop guitars... I just bought the Carvin
though so I'm kind of looked into the two solid-bodies... Anyway, I'm young
I suppose (18) and I have much more life to live and money to make so an
Archtop isn't really out of the question in the future (hey, if it takes a
lifetime to "become" jazz I got some time :). Thanks for all the help! Now,
I need to get my Basie, Pass and Bruno recordings and start practicing! :)

Speaking of practicing, you may want to check out my website for FREE transcriptions of Burrell, Montgomery, Bruno, and Green. Have fun!

--brent


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

 

Even though Les Paul was a fine jazz guitarist, playing with great jazz
musicians
such as Nat (King) Cole, his real claim to fame came from the pop recordings
he
made with his wife Mary Ford doing the vocals. The guitar background and
solos
featured a lot of Les Paul's electronic effects. His solid body designed
guitar was
perfect for the sound of those recordings.


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

Brent Stuntzner
 

It occurs to me that I saw a video of a Sonny Rollins performance recently
(the performance taking place sometime in the 70's) and that his guitar
player (a young Asian-American) was playing a Les Paul and was getting a
nice jazz tone out of it. Maybe someone else might know his name and his
setup?
This has confused me a little... Les Paul created the guitar that is named
after himself FOR Jazz correct? I wonder why it's not used very much in a
traditional Jazz setting? (If I'm asking something silly please forgive
me... I'm a newbie:)
Good point. The archtop guitar has a longer history of use, however, so I think it's regarded more highly as a jazz instrument. Personally, I like the tone that an archtop delivers that a solid-body can only hope to mimic. The acoustic nature of an archtop, in my mind (and ear), is more satisfying....but that's purely subjective, of course.

There are many "jazz" players (let's not debate about who does or does not play "jazz") who have used solid-bodies, however -- Larry Carlton, John McLaughlin, and Stanley Jordan, to name a few.

--brent


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

 

In a message dated 01/15/2000 6:37:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
stuntzner@... writes:

Good point. The archtop guitar has a longer history of use, however, so I
think it's regarded more highly as a jazz instrument. Personally, I like
the tone that an archtop delivers that a solid-body can only hope to
mimic. The acoustic nature of an archtop, in my mind (and ear), is more
satisfying....but that's purely subjective, of course.
Yeah, I too love the sound of archtop guitars... I just bought the Carvin
though so I'm kind of looked into the two solid-bodies... Anyway, I'm young
I suppose (18) and I have much more life to live and money to make so an
Archtop isn't really out of the question in the future (hey, if it takes a
lifetime to "become" jazz I got some time :). Thanks for all the help! Now,
I need to get my Basie, Pass and Bruno recordings and start practicing! :)


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

 

In a message dated 01/15/2000 11:23:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
stuntzner@... writes:

It occurs to me that I saw a video of a Sonny Rollins performance recently
(the performance taking place sometime in the 70's) and that his guitar
player (a young Asian-American) was playing a Les Paul and was getting a
nice jazz tone out of it. Maybe someone else might know his name and his
setup?
This has confused me a little... Les Paul created the guitar that is named
after himself FOR Jazz correct? I wonder why it's not used very much in a
traditional Jazz setting? (If I'm asking something silly please forgive
me... I'm a newbie:)


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

t.jack.tan
 

Sure, a good tone will inspire much but I guess when I started out on jazz,
I personally found the theory/ practice/ ideas most challenging and
rewarding. I can sometimes find musical wealth even when the tone sucks.
Just get minimal and practice!

Good luck.

Jack

I'm using solidbody guitars... A Carvin SC90 (like the Les Paul) and
a
Fender Strat. Now, I really like this setup into my Fender Twin
Reverb, but
when it comes to traditional big band Jazz swing (Basie, Ellington)
they
aren't doing very well for the fat, flappy Jazz guitar tone that
semi-hollow's get. I don't really know what to do... I'm tempted to
put a
pickup in my acoustic guitar because it's tone is good like that..
What is
everyone else's view? Thanks for ALL your help!!


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

Brent Stuntzner
 

I'm using solidbody guitars... A Carvin SC90 (like the Les Paul) and a
Fender Strat. Now, I really like this setup into my Fender Twin
Reverb, but
when it comes to traditional big band Jazz swing (Basie, Ellington) they
aren't doing very well for the fat, flappy Jazz guitar tone that
semi-hollow's get. I don't really know what to do... I'm tempted to put a
pickup in my acoustic guitar because it's tone is good like that.. What is
everyone else's view? Thanks for ALL your help!!
It occurs to me that I saw a video of a Sonny Rollins performance recently (the performance taking place sometime in the 70's) and that his guitar player (a young Asian-American) was playing a Les Paul and was getting a nice jazz tone out of it. Maybe someone else might know his name and his setup?

--brent


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

Brent Stuntzner
 

I'm using solidbody guitars... A Carvin SC90 (like the Les Paul) and a
Fender Strat. Now, I really like this setup into my Fender Twin Reverb, but
when it comes to traditional big band Jazz swing (Basie, Ellington) they
aren't doing very well for the fat, flappy Jazz guitar tone that
semi-hollow's get. I don't really know what to do... I'm tempted to put a
pickup in my acoustic guitar because it's tone is good like that.. What is
everyone else's view? Thanks for ALL your help!!
Pick yourself up an Epiphone. They're inexepensive (< $700) and they play
nicely, then change the strings and start using flatwounds or La Bella Nylon
Tapewounds (my preference) in a size at least of 0.12 on the top (I prefer the
0.14s).

Good luck!

--brent


[jazzguitar] Re: Jazz Tone

 

you could go to an amp with a larger speaker.. say a 15 inch. adjust your
tones to suit you. i doubt it will sound like an archtop but it should be of
some help. i use amps with larger speakers with all my guitars.. i'm pleased.
as a fingerstyle player it makes the thumb work come out well. there's also
an acoustic pick up you can get for a solid body which if you run through a
DI box might also provide the tones you seek. be yourself.. seek your own
tone and voice.
good luck,
eric


[jazzguitar] Jazz Tone

 

Hey everyone! I just got into Jazz guitar about 6 months ago (have been
playing for 2 years) and I REALLY love it, but am having a few "hardware"
problems.

I'm using solidbody guitars... A Carvin SC90 (like the Les Paul) and a
Fender Strat. Now, I really like this setup into my Fender Twin Reverb, but
when it comes to traditional big band Jazz swing (Basie, Ellington) they
aren't doing very well for the fat, flappy Jazz guitar tone that
semi-hollow's get. I don't really know what to do... I'm tempted to put a
pickup in my acoustic guitar because it's tone is good like that.. What is
everyone else's view? Thanks for ALL your help!!


[jazzguitar] INFO: Free Transcriptions

Brent Stuntzner
 

Hi all!

Another transcription has been added to the ever-growing collection of music available at
!!? This time, try out Grant Greens solo over the classic pop/latin tune Stormy.? Grants understated stylings are worth checking out!!? Dont forget to utilize the Transcription MIDI and the Jam Track for practicing.

Coming Attractions?
1.??????Wes Montgomerys solo from Summertime
2.??????Joe Pass solo over Blue Bossa
3.??????Kenny Burrells solo over Call it Stormy Monday
????????
Continued THANKS to all those who have written me with words of encouragement! Please take the time to sign my GUESTBOOK while youre visiting!

--brent


[jazzguitar] Re: More Free Transcriptions

Brent Stuntzner
 

Don,

What happen to this site you recomended?
My site ( www.stuntzner.brent.org ) seems to be online, perhaps the server was briefly down when you tried last.

Thanks for your interest!

--brent


[jazzguitar] Re: More Free Transcriptions

Don Myers
 

What happen to this site you recomended?


Don Myers


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brent stuntzner <stuntzne-@...> wrote:
original article:
Hi all!

Another FREE transcription has been added to the ever-growing
collection of
music available at
<>www.stuntzner.brent.org !!
This time, sink your teeth into 14 PAGES of Wes Montgomery tearin' up
"Moanin". Single line AND octave solos to challenge players of ALL
levels.
Don't forget to check out the Transcription MIDI and the Jam Track
practice,
practice, practice.

What else is new?

Jazz Guitar Chat Room (chat away in real time)
Guestbook (Please consider signing!)
Suggested Reading and Listening (a great list of great
stuff)
Quotations (see what others have had to say)
Photo Album update (photos of Antarctica, carpentry
projects, and my first guitar!)

What to expect next? Kenny Burrell's work on "All Blues" and
something by
Jimmy Bruno!

A continued THANKS to all those who have written me with words of
encouragement, suggestions, and gratitude.

--brent

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[jazzguitar] Re: guitar amp that suit my sheraton.

francois laurier
 

vinon-@... wrote:
original article:
Hey Guys,
I just bought a Epiphone Sheraton II. I feel good for its sound when i
play it in a recital hall. I jacked straight into the hall's PA system
DI Box. But I'm trying to find a amp that suit to this beauty when I
playing in some bad sounding hall, such as a night club or a pub.
My budget is around $300-$400 USD. can you guys recommend some good
stuff? I always sounds like Pat Metheny's mellow sound with huge
reverb.
thanks.

Vincent
I recently tested a Fender Deluxe reissue 1965. It might be a little
bit more expensive, but this is it. It is a "one sound amp" but very
good sound. I play with a Rainsong graphite archtop and it brings out
those very subtle harmonics in a jazz guitar. I also have a Boogie
Caliber 22 (1987) which is similar to a Fender, but since the cabinet
is smaller, it has a tighter sound with less feedback. Tube amps are a
must if you are looking for a real mellow and warm sound. In fact I
still wonder how people can get a sound with Polytone solid state.


[jazzguitar] Greetings and some Flies..

bruce lee mani
 

Hello everybody,

I'd like to wish y'all a very merry christmas and a happy new year. Thanx for all the info and the suggestions and everything else that is so cool to wannabe musicians like myself.

I was just wondering, I've been using a Washburn MG-74 axe and a Boss processor for a while now. The guitar is pretty versatile and handles the slightly variegated stuff I do pretty well - rock, fusion, jazz plus some weird noises. But I've been saving for a while and I now might just have enough money to get the Parker Fly. I've been hearing rave reviews, but is the gat the best choice for me now? It's quite an investment to make for me right now, and I'd like to make the right choice. Buying a FEW guitars is quite out of the question! I need one guitar that can give me the versatility that I require now. Please tell me if the Fly is the right choice for me now.

Thanx again, and seasons greetings.

peace,
Blum


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