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Re: Correction: Dom7b9 - Dim7 (I/bII)Interchangeability - Observation

 

Actually, the correspondance is even clearer than that, because:
B7b9/D7b9/F7b9/Ab7b9 = Co7/Ebo7/Gb7/Ao7, so it's easy to equate the
dom.7 chords with their relative dim. chords & scales.

--- In jazz_guitar@..., John Amato <jamato316@y...> wrote:

...that works... in fact, what you're doing is
spelling out the dom7b9...when you wrote, b9th, 3rd,
5th & 7th of the dom.7th chord,

--- sonomatips <sonomatips@y...> wrote:

It's easier just to know that you can play the
diminished scale(s) that start on the b9th, 3rd, 5th & 7th of
the dom.7th chord, e.g., C/ Eb(D#)/ Gb(F#)/ A dim. scale over
B7/D7/F7/Ab7.
Re: b7 and dom7 Interchangeability Observation

Rick_Poll
 

It was certainly clear in context that what Eddie was saying was that
the goal is to be playing great melodies. But, in pointing out that
scale knowledge is important, he was making the point that even at
those moments you aren't composing great melodies, you can at least
be on the right scale.

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "Jeremy" <jeremyc@c...> wrote:


"I may not always be making up great melodies, but at
least I'll play the right scale".

Rick
Shouldn't you want that to be the other way around?

JC
Re: Polytone MB2, 4 &or Acoustic Image Clarus 1R?

Scott McLoughlin
 

Sure, if you want "best CLASSIC jazz tone" and not "best tone",
go for a Polytone. It's a very recognizable sound from so many
recordings. Heck, there's even a Herb Ellis video where at the
beginning he tells you how he sets up his tone controls on his
Polytone :-)

It's really no fussing at all. Just plug in a credible jazz box, put
the bass on 2-3 and the treble on 6-7, and the mids hanging right
around 5. Use youre guitar's tone control to to the rest. You
eventually might find it doesn't make "your" sounds, but it'll
definitely make "that" sound.

I plug an L4 (occasionally a Sweet 16) into it, which is pretty
darned close to an ES 175 - stock except for an ebony replacement
bridge, and it just makes "that tone" right out of the box.

Pick up a used one if available in your neck of the woods (or on
the auction site). Shouldn't set you back too much and you're
not likely to be disappointed. I bought one from the early 80's
or late 70s and the seller (a pretty well respected seller of used
gear in my area) thought that the Poly's from that era were a
little more reliable than the more recent ones. Who knows. But
it hasn't failed to please yet. Knock wood.

Scott

Vladymir Lamadieu wrote:

Hi Juan,

The best possible classic jazz tone is a polytone. I
use a polytone Mega Brute (not mini). It is the
smallest polytone and it has the new sonic circuitry.
It allows me to get the best "classic" tone and is
very simple. I do not run it through any processors.
My guitars include:

Eastman 810 CE (17 inch Archtop)
Howard Roberts Jazz Fusion (center block)
Alvarez Yairi Cy116
Crafters of Tennessee Flat Top

Note, I have tried everything from Fenders, to Mesa
Boogies, Evans,but always came back to Polytone.
There is a reason why so many jazz recordings of
substance were made using these amps.
Re: Polytone MB2, 4 &or Acoustic Image Clarus 1R?

Grahame Peter
 

I can't resist saying that liking the Polytone tone is a matter of personal
preference. I had a Polytone Minibrute II for 20 years. Aside from the
hassle of blowing fuses and the power supply, I didn't really like the
sound. (I bought it because a friend who played professionally told me it
was "the" jazz sound; it took me many years to listen more critically.) When
I read an article in Jazz Times (I think) describing the Polytone sound as a
"goose fart," the light went on inside my head. I'm glad to be rid of it
but sorry I didn't sell it to one of the Polytone aficianados who shop on
eBay. It was in immaculate condition. Oof! But I really like my Roland
Cube 60 (new model) very much, and settled on that after owning Fender,
Tech21 and Evans amps. One observation I'd make is that there are amps that
sound great at home and have that mellow jazz tone but that can be far too
boomy in a gig situation. The jazz tone at home is not necessarily what you
want in a multi-purpose amp. The Roland does well for a variety of
settings.

Cheers,

Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: "Vladymir Lamadieu" <v_lamadieu@...>
To: <jazz_guitar@...>
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [jazz_guitar] Re: Polytone MB2, 4 &or Acoustic Image Clarus 1R?


Hi Juan,

The best possible classic jazz tone is a polytone. I
use a polytone Mega Brute (not mini). It is the
smallest polytone and it has the new sonic circuitry.
It allows me to get the best "classic" tone and is
very simple. I do not run it through any processors.
My guitars include:

Eastman 810 CE (17 inch Archtop)
Howard Roberts Jazz Fusion (center block)
Alvarez Yairi Cy116
Crafters of Tennessee Flat Top

Note, I have tried everything from Fenders, to Mesa
Boogies, Evans,but always came back to Polytone.
There is a reason why so many jazz recordings of
substance were made using these amps.
--- Juan Carlos Fiallos <juancarlosfiallos@...>
wrote:

I am getting more confused on this thread...I asked
your opinion regarding getting the best "classic
jazz
tone" posible using an archtop guitar, remember
"archtop guitar" and "classic jazz", I do not want
versatility, BUT exclusively for jazz. I mean which
is
best for a classic jazz tone, using am archtop?.

I dont want to play rock or a solidbody. just JAZZ,
also I would use as a cabinet the Polytone Acoustic
Reflection on it....

Now SHOOT

JC





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A few more videos

jazzclif
 

I started an account at putfile and uploaded some videos of solo
fingerstyle guitar yesterday

putfile.com/jazzclif

It's some standards I really like playing and a typical for me make it
up as you go blues.

This time I took #####'s advice and put some titles and stuff on too.
File size is 4 megs and under, mostly under for those of you like me
with the old tinkertoy modems. The lego ones are a lot faster.

Clif Kuplen
R&P Roland 2x12 cabinet

objectorientedjg
 

Hi,

Is anyone familiar with this speaker cabinet?
It has long been discontinued.

I'm curious as to how it sounds, as I can probably make a good deal on
one of these.

Should I go for it?

An image of it:
ViewItem&item=7333195524#ebayphotohosting
Re: Djangofest

Ron Murray
 

on 10/7/05 12:07 PM, bugbuster at bugbuster@... wrote:

Just got back from Djangofest, changed life, interested in exchanging
views and info.

First question: Have you tried gypsy jazz on your town's audiences? How
did they like it?

My audiences like it very much, as long as I mix it up with some more
contemporary tunes done in that style, and also some flashy show-off stuff,
like Tico Tico. A mix of an acoustic guitar (piezo pickup or mic) and
electric guitar with upright bass is my usual group, and I can add violin,
clarinet, or trumpet, depending on what the client wants and who's
available. If you need charts, ideas or a starting point, I recomment the
Pearl Django books (djangobooks.com) highly.

Ron Murray
Re: Polytone MB2, 4 &or Acoustic Image Clarus 1R?

 

Hi Juan,

The best possible classic jazz tone is a polytone. I
use a polytone Mega Brute (not mini). It is the
smallest polytone and it has the new sonic circuitry.
It allows me to get the best "classic" tone and is
very simple. I do not run it through any processors.
My guitars include:

Eastman 810 CE (17 inch Archtop)
Howard Roberts Jazz Fusion (center block)
Alvarez Yairi Cy116
Crafters of Tennessee Flat Top

Note, I have tried everything from Fenders, to Mesa
Boogies, Evans,but always came back to Polytone.
There is a reason why so many jazz recordings of
substance were made using these amps.
--- Juan Carlos Fiallos <juancarlosfiallos@...>
wrote:

I am getting more confused on this thread...I asked
your opinion regarding getting the best "classic
jazz
tone" posible using an archtop guitar, remember
"archtop guitar" and "classic jazz", I do not want
versatility, BUT exclusively for jazz. I mean which
is
best for a classic jazz tone, using am archtop?.

I dont want to play rock or a solidbody. just JAZZ,
also I would use as a cabinet the Polytone Acoustic
Reflection on it....

Now SHOOT

JC
Re: Polytone MB2, 4 &or Acoustic Image Clarus 1R?

Juan Carlos Fiallos
 

I am getting more confused on this thread...I asked
your opinion regarding getting the best "classic jazz
tone" posible using an archtop guitar, remember
"archtop guitar" and "classic jazz", I do not want
versatility, BUT exclusively for jazz. I mean which is
best for a classic jazz tone, using am archtop?.

I dont want to play rock or a solidbody. just JAZZ,
also I would use as a cabinet the Polytone Acoustic
Reflection on it....

Now SHOOT

JC

--- Donnie Loeffler <morebebop@...> escribi:

--- In jazz_guitar@...,
"steinbergerstyler"
<steinbergerstyler@y...> wrote:


transistor tone....the clarus is probably a
little more versitle,


The Clarus series amps are not versatile, if you
mean versatility in
terms of being suited for playing other styles of
music. They don't
take effects well, and have very little in the
way of "tone", which
is actually why so many jazz guitarists swear by
them - they give a
very natural, uncolored sound, which can be a bad
thing with a solid-
body guitar.
The versitiltiy of the clarus in comparison to the
polytone is:

1. clarus has a XLR balanced direct out, polytone
doesn't
2. clarus is a amp head , so you can can flexible
with
speakers...polytone is a combo amp only
3. clarus is much smaller in size and weight,
compared to the 40lb.
approx. weight of the polytone
4. clarus has better customer and dealer relations
than polytone , ask
any dealer of polytone, polytone doens't have their
own website,
someone else operates it, at least the last time I
checked...

I finally heard a clarus model last year or so...I
think it's OK for
acoustic bass, but for guitar there is alot more on
mkt. for less
price that sounds better in my opinion

try the crate power block for comparison ,
especially in price

I'm not a advocate of Class D amplication or power
supplies

Donnie Loeffler







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Re: need advice regarding pick up for arch top and flat top

[email protected]
 

-----Original Message-----
Subject: [jazz_guitar] Re: need advice regarding pick up for arch top and flat top
Also, I am playing some jazz on a flat top round hole...any advice
would be appreciated.

DR
You can get a piezo that goes in at the bridge, that gives you a more acoustic "natural" sounding signal or a soundhole mounted pickup. I like the sound hole mount for jazz, it seems to have a rounder punchier voice. Bill Lawrence makes several good ones, Dimarzio and Duncan also have ones you can either clip in or mount with an allen key.
Another route is to take a regular humbucker and make a mounting plate that you can secure to the top. I did this with a Duncan mini humbucker SM-3 and it's got a gorgeous "jazz box" sound when I put D'addario half rounds on it. Pretty cool, easy to play and way cheaper than an L5.
David
OT:Chicago Marathon

DAVID RUDICK
 

Hi Gang,

FYI, I am running the Chicago Marathon with a fellow jazzer on Sunday. My first, his first. I just turned 55. We met through the guitar...way cool. BTW, I live outside of Phila and I am flying there. I'll let you know how it goes!


DR
Re: Looking for Charts

MICHAEL LARUE
 

Try www.guitar-masters.com


Michael LaRue
Help support Senate Bill #1233a

When enacted, this bill will require a mandatory seven day 'cooling-off' period
before the purchase and possession of a musical instrument.
Re: Polytone MB2, 4 &or Acoustic Image Clarus 1R?

Donnie Loeffler
 

--- In jazz_guitar@..., "steinbergerstyler"
<steinbergerstyler@y...> wrote:


transistor tone....the clarus is probably a little more versitle,

The Clarus series amps are not versatile, if you mean versatility in
terms of being suited for playing other styles of music. They don't
take effects well, and have very little in the way of "tone", which
is actually why so many jazz guitarists swear by them - they give a
very natural, uncolored sound, which can be a bad thing with a solid-
body guitar.
The versitiltiy of the clarus in comparison to the polytone is:

1. clarus has a XLR balanced direct out, polytone doesn't
2. clarus is a amp head , so you can can flexible with
speakers...polytone is a combo amp only
3. clarus is much smaller in size and weight, compared to the 40lb.
approx. weight of the polytone
4. clarus has better customer and dealer relations than polytone , ask
any dealer of polytone, polytone doens't have their own website,
someone else operates it, at least the last time I checked...

I finally heard a clarus model last year or so...I think it's OK for
acoustic bass, but for guitar there is alot more on mkt. for less
price that sounds better in my opinion

try the crate power block for comparison , especially in price

I'm not a advocate of Class D amplication or power supplies

Donnie Loeffler
Re: Looking for Charts+another question.

Sean Williams
 

Check out the file archives! Home / Band In A Box
Files / BIAB_Realbook.zip has the entire realbook
(illegal). I think a good portion of the tunes are
there.

This brings up something I am looking for. What are
some of the best programs with OCR that can convert a
scan into a midi file thereby making it compatible
with Finale? I know their is Smartscore but is anyone
using this program?



--- bluemt@... wrote:

I'm a guitar player looking for charts (chords and
melody) that I can
import into finale or Band In a Box and change the
keys as per a
vocalists request. Here are some of the tunes I'm
looking for. thanks
for any help in finding these or any suggestions.

Sean Williams
www.gtr4hire.com



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Re: Looking for Charts

 

Join the Yahoo Biab groups:
Questions about Six Essential Fingerings book by Jimmy Bruno

 

Hi all,

I picked up copy of "Six Essential Fingerings for the Jazz Guitarist"
by Jimmy Bruno.

Anyone used this book?

I've got a question about it.

For the scale pattern he calls "6V4" you start on the root of the
scale on the sixth string with your pinky finger.

I was wondering, how do those of you who use this scale system play
the major 7th arpeggio from this form? Looking around at JB's other
materials he says things like the goal is to always have the same
finger making the same sound. If I use that rule for arps, then the
fingering to go from scale to arp for this fingering results in the
middle box on the picture I made here:



That seems really awkward though, so I tend to play it like the third box.

Is this a problem? Is there a better way to finger this arpeggio?

Thanks!
Djangofest

bugbuster
 

Just got back from Djangofest, changed life, interested in exchanging
views and info.

First question: Have you tried gypsy jazz on your town's audiences? How
did they like it?

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Re: OT:Chicago Marathon

Sean Williams
 

That's awesome and more power to ya! I have tried
jogging but I keep spilling my drink...


--- DAVID RUDICK <sribeme@...> wrote:

Hi Gang,

FYI, I am running the Chicago Marathon with a fellow
jazzer on Sunday. My first, his first. I just
turned 55. We met through the guitar...way cool.
BTW, I live outside of Phila and I am flying there.
I'll let you know how it goes!


DR

Sean Williams
www.gtr4hire.com



__________________________________
Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

Looking for Charts

 

I'm a guitar player looking for charts (chords and melody) that I can
import into finale or Band In a Box and change the keys as per a
vocalists request. Here are some of the tunes I'm looking for. thanks
for any help in finding these or any suggestions.

In a sentimental mood
I've got it bad
Someone to Watch over me
All the things you are
Stars Fell On Alabama
Yesterdays
Alone Together
A Foggy Day
Darn That Dream
You make me feel so young
Pennies from Heaven
Sentimental Journey
I can't give you anything but Love
Ain't Misbehavin"
Taking a chance on love
embraceable you
I've got you under my skin
I didn't know what time it was
I'll be seeing you
Blame it on my youth
Early Autumn
Too Close for Comfort
Devil May Care
Dindi
I'll Be Around
How High the Moon
Body and Soul
Nature Boy
Close Your Eyes

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Re: ampeg reverberocket reissue

 

I have one and love it. It sounds great for jazz tone. It's too noisey
and vibrates/rattles too much for recording I found, however. Fine for
gigs.

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